OUTRAGEOUS NEW TAX ON UTES could cost YOU $15,000! Why the Govt got this WRONG. 

I'm a firefighter, and from our perspective EV fires are a nightmare, you need thousands of Liters of water to put it out. Also the amount of toxic smoke that comes off Lithium batteries is alot worse the your standard diesel and petrol vehicles. When a lithium battery is put out it could reignite hours/days/weeks later. There must be a way the people can over throw this spas government.

Your main argument, "it's not fair!", has the potential to be really compelling, especially coming from someone directly impacted by such changes. This episode could have been impactful, but it often feels like an echo chamber, with repetitive discussions on "what about China," "Australia is only 1%," "it's not sustainable," and references to "the science behind it" without delving into the actual science. Don't get me wrong, I greatly appreciate your work! I just hoped for a more thorough exploration of this topic. - Maybe for the next round table: An outlook on what Australia should look like from your PoV, would be great!

As a 4wd driver, I completely with you on the Tax issue. But I need to say,although Aussie vs China 1:30 percentage of emissions is a fact, but I don’t like this comparison :) China has 1.4 billion populations and Aussie 28 million. That’s 1 : 50. China is the manufacturing hub for the world and it produces all kinds of things that ppl worldwide need daily. That cost fossil fuels. What we produce these days? Kangaroo ???😂 We should think about how to focus on our responsibilities but not pointing fingers to others, especially those countries like China & India who are doing the hard work that western countries no longer want to. Not mentioning these countries are just able to feed their ppl not a long time decades ago.

Wow. People are easily sucked into things they see on the internet. Has anyone here actually read the efficiency standards proposal? There is no tax. No one is saying you can't have a diesel vehicle, just that manufacturers have to offset them.with other more efficient models in their range. This is the same thing that happens in every country except us and Russia. It also impacts new cars only so your old s-box will be fine.

Every single tradie, 4wd and camping enthusiast should be protesting this in every capital city in Oz, similar to the farmers in Europe.

For those living under a rock if the new tax goes through, we'll be paying GST, Luxury Car Tax, Emission Tax, Stamp Duty and registration to the Government before we even drive the car off the lot and then we'll be paying a continual stream of fuel excise, more GST, tolls, and yearly rego (not to mention insurance) just to drive around. Reckon the Government is taking more than its fair share of our hard earned dollar. Wouldn't it be nice for a change for the Government to come up with a "solution" to a problem that doesn't involve raising a tax, levy or fine.

Im in the EV industry in the UK and everything you are saying is correct: Extremely dirty to produce from the lithium, where its sourced, packaged and put in to cars the carbon footprint is unbelievable. They do not last even 10 years, if they do, there pitiful range is often at the very least halved, the batteries to replace them are not just expensive, it is often impossible to replace them so the whole car goes in the the bin. In real world driving you are very lucky to do more than 70% of the claimed range, in 2024 usually about 300km. If you find a fast charger that's working, its an hour to charge. They are worthless if you are a private buyer. Due to tech glitches, updates, faults, old technology, poor range and longevity, these things are purely to be leased. However, the residual value is so bad, those costs are now absolutely sky rocketing. The fire risk. Yes they catch fire less than ICE vehicles, but when they do it is ferocious and cannot be put out, cargo ships, blocks of flats and entire carparks can go up from one EV fire. While it is a nice thought driving through the town emitting no emissions, that 80-100kwh battery needs to be fed. On public charging it would work out to cost 20L/100km in a petrol (also its only as green as what powers the grid). Oh and that 600hp 3 tonne vehicle, will deffo make some headlines when these start to be crashed into your Jo's Rav4. The disposal..... they go in the bin after a maximum of 10 years if you are lucky. This EV bubble that is exploding with either tax incentives, or ICE tax's is going to burst. It is like a religion that cannot be questioned. But when people see the mess that is the public network, or spend any time and drive an EV any distance at all. Even in 20 years time the majority of people, who do not have home charging capability will see the big scam for what it is. These EV's are lovely to drive to do boring miles around the city, but even in the UK, this legislation only benefits Londoners. Just think where the tech would have taken us if we continued to invest and improve ICE vehicles or synthetic fuels. James

FYI, "Paul Burke, the head of the Arndt-Corden Department of Economics at the Australian National University, rejected the notion that a new vehicle efficiency standard was a tax. "A tax is a mandatory charge that collects revenue for the government," he told Fact Check in an email. "This is not the case here - it is a scheme that requires average efficiency standards are met by suppliers of new vehicles, with suppliers able to trade credits to meet compliance requirements.""

It’s time for people to grow some balls and stand up to this shit.

mate we all need to stand up together our government is ruling our lives and only filling their own pockets i cant afford to buy a 5 grand car let alone afford a 90 grand ev car we are getting poorer and the government is getting rich we need to stand up to them and say no we will not roll they want us to give up ciggies and when we do thats not good enough they lost 2 billion in tax on ciggies last year alone the ev car burst into flames

Christ .. ‘tax every vehicle’ ? … the new efficiency standards don’t touch existing vehicles at all. Australia is one of only 2 countries in the world that doesn’t have efficiency standards ..

As the driver of both a Tesla EV and a Y62 I can honestly say that I would not buy another EV. The big so-called benefit of the EV is the cheaper running costs, but what is happening to this saving as power prices continue to sky rocket? EV's are fine around the city but are frustrating on longer drives. For example I did a run from Brisbane to Melbourne and back in just 3 days with an EV and the time spent charging the thing every 300-400 klms almost drove me mad (it is a Model 3 performance so has the big battery and only gets this sort of range at 110 klm per hr). Give me a petrol or diesel car anyday of the week for a long trip. If the Government is serious about cost of living let's focus on things that make people's lives better and saves people money (e.g. make solar and batteries cheaper so we can all reduce our usage and bills). Finally, Australia does not have the charging infrastructure or the excess power generation to support us all having EV's so the Government is definitely putting the cart before the horse on this one.

Haha just so you guys know... the landcruiser is already out of touch of the everyday Australian to buy ... wish we everyday Aussies had 150 grand to buy a car that used to be worth 85k to 90k...

but we saved you 275 dollars on power.. ohh wait we did not do that either.

From my reading of this proposal a Toyota Hilux WITH the same engine as the current model would incur a carbon penalty of $2,600. That's nowhere near $15,000. And that is with the current engine. If Toyota released a Hilux with say a hybrid petrol/electric drivetrain then you may not incur any tax at all and it may get a carbon credit. It also depends on what other cars are being offered by the same manufacturer and how efficient they are. Some of these hybrid vehicles are already available in the US and they will offer good power and efficiency and will have good range.

It’s not a tax… it’s the manufacturers being fined for not selling more fuel efficient versions of vehicles that are already sold elsewhere. If they are passing that cost onto consumers rather than innovating that’s their greed not the governments. And it’s only for new cars, anything sold before 2025 is unaffected. Pretty smooth transition if you ask me.

ute price goes up then tradie will put there prices up on jobs

I never ever thought I'd see 4WD 24-7 do this type of video. Says a lot about the state of the nation very very sad. Keep punching guys we are with you. Ill keep my S5 Y62 and stay away from places that want to charge me more to park.

I love doggo jumping in "dad, dad, ball, stick"

It's a fuel efficiency standard, it's worrying your getting your news from Mr PotatoHead. Loads of other countries have this standard. Even NZ have it..

If they try introduce this tax, we should organise a protest at Parliament House.

Emission standards on new vehicles are coming if you like it or not. Australia is years behind other developed countries in not already having them in place. $15-20k price increases are a beat up by the LNP.

What is your source of the increase to NEW utes due to these changes?

We have the loosest emissions restrictions, the US have stricter ones and they still have big 4x4's I think you may have bitten the wrong PR brief.

Tyranny is at an all-time high across the globe.

In NZ, they give you a DEDUCTION on price of an EV, rather than charging you more for a normal petrol or diesel vehicle. Incentive rather than punishment. Also, the infrastructure for EV charging in Australia is waaaay off. You are lucky to get petrol or diesel in some places, let alone a charging station every 400-500km!!!

When the black summer fires come through southern NSW from the Vic high country we had no power or communication with anyone for over a week every road was blocked from fallen trees, three days after the fires had passed it was the locals in there 4wd's who cleared the the roads to come out to check on everyone, the nearest place you could charge a electric vehicle is over a two hour drive there's no electric firetrucks so there was no way some one in a electric vehicle was coming the help us in this time the roads where so bad you needed 4x4 it took the Fire fighters a week after the fires before they checked on anyone because they where all so busy.

I also like your point about us off-roaders allowing better access for bush fires. Locally we had a big fire spreading fast. My offroad group had a guy close by meet the fire department and show them how to get to it when they got lost

Please keep on top of this issue - it's so important - and the National Park and public space closures as well. Both issues are being experienced worldwide. Thank-you for alerting people to what they are proposing.

Efficiency is such a key word and concept that is overlooked in this debate. Internal combustion engines have come such a long way over the years now to the point where they can run on the smell of an oily rag by comparison to yesteryear. If we truly want to lower emissions from the food we eat, the cars we drive, the homes we live in etc, efficiency should be the key driver. Why is my dinner caught in NZ, send to Thailand for packaging, and then sold in an Australian supermarket at a price that does not reflect the inefficiencies the manufacturer has exploited to make more money? What about charging an EV, from a non-renewable energy source, and the inefficiencies in the generation, transportation and storage of that power? If I owned a house with solar panels, battery banks and a garage to charge my EV in, well then we’ve achieved the end goal. But the reality is the charging network predominantly sources energy from non-renewable sources, and there lies the hypocrisy of it all. We should be a nation driven by fact and reason, striving for maximum efficiency. If the task is a farmer who needs transportation that suits the purpose, well then they should be financially incentivised to do that as efficiently as possible. If a ford ranger is the most efficient way to achieve that goal, then they should be even cheaper. My two cents.

I had a little giggle at the fact that the sooty number plate is just sitting there centre screen 😂 probably not helping the cause

As a tradie,i need a ute to work to load up with tools and tow a trailer. Nothing else can do this like a ute, vans are useless and no ev can do what a ute can do today, maybe one the future if a ev ute can do what a diesel can do now then give incentives to go ev, but why now increase the cost of living even more.

4wd trip to Parliament House the numbers will be insane.

Fellas.... The govt want to introduce fuel efficiency standards for the industry (like in the rest of the developed world). How you get to a ute tax from that is right wing PR misinformation. You get all riled up, you get a community of people who look up to and respect what you do riled up, and do yourself a disservice where you could advocate at a higher level if you talk sense not emotive non-sense.

I’m currently a uni student in brissy and recently wrote a paper on the practical application of renewable energy and my findings were that not only do we not have enough lithium and other materials to make enough batteries to replace internal combustion completely but even if hypothetically we could replace all cars with EV the sheer strain on the power grid to recharge would be too much, additionally the amount of land required to put in enough solar would take up significant areas on central Australia (killing off large areas of land) but then you’d lose a significant amount of that electricity produced just in transit to major cities and still it wouldn’t be enough to satisfy the electricity demand. We will drive ourselves into the ground and end up with load shedding like South Africa. I am happy to link any of the peer reviewed studies/articles for anyone who is interested in learning more or wants to play devils advocate

I’m a dairy farmer and we need 4wd Utes to keep the farm going.

Without petrol and diesel Australia stops!

Mate, we need someone like you guys in power making these decisions, clean up Australia first by cleaning up our government. I drive a 79 for remote work and a 100 series for my family daily driver/tourer, an ev wouldn’t even come close to fitting my requirements day to day, not everyone’s life is confined to suburbia sipping a latte. Keep up the good work guys

I’ll get an electric vehicle when they put charging stations on the Canning-Stock route.

This is unbelievable. Here in nz they brought in this same ute tax and we literally had nation wide protest but they still taxed us fast forward to this year they have dropped the tax on utes/new vehicles. Band together and be loud with a strong message!

Agreed, and agreed. The madness of these politicians is nonsensical and unscientific in every way.

It’s not just Australia, it’s happening everywhere unfortunately. I’m glad you got a chance to visit the US and hit some rad trails, never know when they will get closed for environmental reasons. Thank you for putting the discussion out there!

I’m glad you guys made this. People have no idea of the cons

So this might be a time to focus on the big picture, that we as an off-road community need to do what we can about being stewards and caretakers of the places we ride and the trails we love so much to show we’re doing our part, because it gives us some credibility to be heard when we make logical, fact-based arguments like this. In the US we try to promote “Tread lightly” for our trails, with simple rules, like “Pack it in, pack it out”, and “Leave it better than we found it”.

I used to be proud to be an Aussie, more recently not so much. But, videos like this give me hope. Keep it up lads, keep speaking up.

Never thought my patrol would become an heirloom.

I hope you guys in Australia get to keep your 4x4s and the freedom to keep wheeling the amazing tracks you have over there. Hopefully, I will get to meet up with you blokes next time you're in the US . Cheers Boys!

If you are going to raise this issue on your website, then it is incumbent on the presenters to provide the full details and not just give a headline which is designed as clickbait and to fire up outrage. More careful examination of this issue shows that it is NOT a ute tax at all and $15-$20K more to buy a ute is fake news.

We are getting the absolute piss taken out of us by our government. How much we get taxed on our hard earned wages and day to day items is criminal. Then to try and reward myself for all the hard work I do and try to go out bush and every second 4wd track Is closed and then get car defected and fined for having 35s by cops on dirt bikes whilst youth crime is out of control and other crimes are being committed. We need to stand up to our government.

As a firefighter the best thing for us is the fire trails managed properly, and there r some places that’s just not happening unless the 4x4’s go through and clean it up, the garbage and the fallen trees across the tracks. Us needing to clear those ourselves takes time which can lead to big fires cause we wasted time clearing tracks to get to the little fire, as a 4x4 driver myself my kids r seeing parts of this country they would never see in those ev vehicles. They get to see our true nature not just at a zoo.

Same in the UK, but we're taxed highly on vehicles with high emissions. A land cruiser amazon would cost £1000 a year new on road tax. Others similar.

Canadian fan for a long time, it's great to hear you speaking bluntly on the government BS!

Theres something else a lot of people miss, having a good amount of off road capable vehicles in the country improves resilience. A while ago Ukraine was thinking about trying to import a lot of utes (second hand) from here because there just are almost none in Europe, and now that they are in the middle of a war they have suddenly realized that utes and off road vehicles are very useful things to have around when things go wrong. Off road vans are even more useful (as ambulances), unfortunately they are even rarer. Now I know you can make utes electric however I'm not sure how many working charging stations they have in bombed out cities over there at the moment. I do think the ultimate in resilience would be to have a mix of both, as electric vehicles can be charged with solar etc but for right now diesel is the best we have (for disasters).

Look up a Cobalt mine and see what it does to people and that's green people

I’m not in Australia and I’m feeling your pain. I don’t know your governments but ours use to be for the people by the people. In the last 12 years it’s more like for the politics by the politics. It’s financially draining to live here. If you’re making $100,000 or more you can sustain financial stability.

Good stuff thanks for sharing

When’s 4WD 24/7 Camping outside Parliament House, I’ll be there with my rig.

Honestly, I'm pretty bummed at hearing about this. I've only recently started getting into the 4wd scene after watching you boys the last few months. I've been putting together my dream Hilux setup and build. To hear that I'm going to be taxed for purchasing and building a vehicle that will help me explore this beautiful country we call home, really is a kick in the guts. Like you said, the reason we have these vehicles and do these tracks is to get out there and explore and in fact helps mitigate issues that otherwise aren't spoken about. A lot of hardworking folks, especially in far north Queensland and remote areas of the country rely on people with such vehicles in order to generate their tourism income. I'm all for saving helping the environment but I'm not schlepping an EV Hummer on the old tele track. I'm still super keen to get my dream Lux together. Lets hope we can talk some sense into these blokes sipping on lattes.

Hey lads, NZ labour government introduced a Clean Car Rebate & Fee in 2022. Same as what you’re saying, was a co2 tax or rebate depending on the vehicles emissions. The tax or “fee” was to off set the money EV purchases got. At peak it was around $9000 tax and $8000 rebates. New National government has scrapped it as was costing the government money. It smashed the industry hard. The worst part was it was on new registrations, so all that happened is people stayed in their older vehicles which are less emissions friendly over updating to the latest and greatest models with far better emissions. Couldn’t agree more, we are being feed a load of rubbish about EVs being greener.

So a few points here: -Just because we are responsible for 1% of emisisonss, doesn't mean we don't have a responsibility to be better. Our emissions per capita are among the worst. What's wrong with wanting to do better? - EVs are better for emisions long term. There's plenty of research that shows the break even point for them is around 60k km. The upfront emissions cost may be more, but if the Breakeven point is earlier then you can't argue with the math. Sure the grid still relies on fossil fuels, but as that shifts that will be less or an issue. ICE cars will always use petrol/diesel - you're talking like engines and diffs don't need rebuilds every so often, those are both big costs. An engine could easily be the price of a battery - precious governments have failed to keep Australian car standards up to speed with other countries. This is just catching up. Plus it's not a tax, it's an incentive for companies to do better and reduce their vehicles emissions. 4wds are already crazy expensive, I strongly doubt manufacturers want to have to pass on more costs. In two years this won't be an issue - there's plenty of ways for tradies to transport their gear around other than big 4wds. There's plenty of options available and it wasn't that long ago that HSV and Ford utes were the flavour for utes. - Recycling does need to improve and it will. Again, Australia is behind due to lack of care, but we will get there I love your content, and love 4wding. I just think this conversation is way more nuanced than how you're phrasing it. I'm sure this comment will go down like a lead balloon, but yolo. Love the videos generally boys

We all need to respect each other on the tracks, 4WD, Horses and bushwalkers. We are stronger together when it comes to challenging and influencing government.

I’m not a big fan of the government

We need to start a protest against this nonsense

A LOT of mischaracterizations here in and in the comments. For reference: I own both a 4x4 OffRoad truck and a Tesla, I love both for different reasons. 1. EVs are statistically much less likely to catch fire than ICEs. Yes they are different and sometimes harder to put out. Not proving any points about anything by bringing this up. 2. EV batteries are rated to 80% of capacity out to 200k miles. You take care of them, you can drive them a VERY long time without needing a replacement. 3. There are companies that specialize in lithium battery recycling and reuse. They have fairly good reclamation rates. If batteries end up in landfills something went very wrong. See point 2. This is a much smaller problem than people seem to think it is. 4. EVs are more environmentally friendly than ICE vehicles after about 15k miles. Accounting for mining, assembly, batteries, energy generation, everything. An EV will emit less than 1/4th as much as an ICE during it's life... Including everything. 5. Yes I agree with your premise that this tax is dumb. ICE trucks are needed for a very long time... obviously. Anyone who thinks otherwise is, as my pop would say, "as sharp as a marble". No reason to peddle false narratives about EVs to try and make a counter point to this dumb policy. It's just a dumb policy that should never have been proposed. can we leave it at that?

It’s got me gobsmacked how our governments are getting away with these ever increasing restrictions and bans on outdoor pursuits. Whether it be fishing, hunting or fourbying you’d think in this day and age activities which benefit so many peoples’ physical and mental health while getting them into the great outdoors should be protected and promoted!

I feel for us 4wdrivers because the the real problem is too many people have huge vehicles that only ever get driven in the cities. Don't know how the government singles them out without adding even more unnecessary bureaucracy. The rapid increase of people treating our tracks like crap and putting on the internet isn't helping the cause.

Shauna a point to make is 1:tradies need and use anything from the Mazda bt50 , Mitsubishi triton, hilux, landcruiser to larger tonnage Isuzu, hino etc 2 primary producers need 4wd of all descriptions through to transport trucks of all tonnage carrying capacities

The amount off misinformation in this video is mind blowing! NVES is not a tax, it’s there to encourage car makers to make more efficient cars(including utes/4wd). Manufacturers will get fined if their average is above the target. So, if they can sell small EV for city drivers, they can use credits from them to offset the emissions of vehicles that are above target. Maybe you should read the proposal before you go putting out videos like this.

The government have forgotten about the caravan industry. How do they expect people touring Australia including the outback to use an EV . What a joke. 😢

Awesome video as always 4WD 24/7 Crew.

There is no new tax being levied on utes. All that has happened is that manufacturers importing cars will have a cap on the emissions their suite of cars can produce. Failure to meet that cap means they will have to buy offset permits

Wrote about this after the last beers in the shed on your Facebook page. Have written to a senator expressing my anger I ask all to do the same Lucky for us there is a federal election coming your vote counts

people in nature ( 4wd drivers, hikers, motorbikes, mountain bikes) keep the bush a valuable resource. If we get rid of these groups, or start infighting, then we will collectively loose the mass effect we have on keeping the wild areas useful accessible, whilst still pristine. We need all the passionate people invested.

Funny thing here in Canada two Hyundai electric vehicles either bottomed out or just hit something on the road were written off because the battery was more expensive than the car these were new cars so what do you think about the insurance rates Not viable having to recycle a new car

Totally get what you're saying with reaction legislation. Here is Colorado we've begun to have ballot decided initiatives that determine how our Game and Fish manages hunting wildlife management in the mountains when all of the voters are in the flatlands and cities.

The 4x4 show is on this weekend in Brisbane.... If 4wd/24.7 are on stage lets give them a standing ovation... For bringing this subject up, Maybe they will talk about this on stage ?

How does Australia allow as much coal mining and get mad at the like 25 of the 30 people who live in the entire country who owns a 4by

As a 19 year old tradie living in the ACT it’s gonna make life driving a diesel Ute a living hell expense wise especially while building my dream build! Have had to start looking at other options to get my rig registered outside Canberra and in nsw .

If a Kimberlys trip is on the cards, do a remote trip with a Tinny on an off-road trailer and find the most remote untouched spots you could possibly put a boat in the water! Also good too see some of the more influential off road people standing up for the everyday off roader! If anyones got a voice its you guys and you've got all the support you could get from us 🤙

Your new 15 minute city will be beautifully paved, you wont need anything bigger than a scooter.

As if we don't get taxed enough on everything already

Man, Im so glad our new government got rid of the ute tax here in New Zealand.

My closest shopping centre is 2hrs away by the time I charge an electric car in town it would take 2 days just to go shopping and than wouldn't be able to use the car for the fortnight so I would be able to get back to the shops

I reckon we need to start looking at what’s going on in Norway where did crackdown on petrol and diesel cars in the big city’s. I recommended EVS in the cities, but everywhere else got a diesel petrol to getting out on the country side and up in the mountains for skiing where EV don’t really fit

I’m an apprentice heavy vehicle mechanic and it’s definitely feels like it could be waist in the long run if they way the Aus government is going trying to EV everything. I just don’t see it working at all in Australia from trucks to non city living and driving. Ev is not for everyone so they need to stop forcing it to us!

If they bring this in how are Australians supposed to afford it yet if they get rid of all diesels and petrols then farmers,trucks and 4wdrivers are going to struggle you can’t just charge the car out in the outback bush or on your farm. Then a truck will be wasting money by waiting for the batteries to charge to keep going hence then missing deadlines cheers boys

That xxxx bag must be huge, drinking hot tins no stubby cooler's and maybe 1 sip all episode. I wouldn't drink the shit either 😂😂😂

It shits me to tears that pollies who've never driven past the Blue Mountains try to dictate what cars we should be driving.

Well said!! We need high profile people to get involved and project a louder voice. These ridiculous policies have to stop before we can’t travel and see this beautiful country anymore. We also have to do our part and keep the tracks and campsites clean. DONT GIVE TYEM SN EXCUSE!!!

We are a family who have been travelling Australia for the past year. Once out of the cities, it's hard to see how EV vehicles can be suitable for Australia. The distances, durability requirements and maintenance needs just can't be done with current EV technologies. If you factor in the need for many rural & remote Australians to tow (equipment, horses, caravans, boats), its even more ludicrous. The largest EV towing vehicle is a 4.1T tare EV Hummer. It would not even tow our caravan 200km and then need a full day's recharge! The EV debate is polluted by the lobby groups. Imagine where we could be if the same money and political focus had been invested in biofuel or alternative combustion engine fuel research.

Well, you allowed your government to disarm the public. You allowed some of the most draconian Charlie Victor 19 measures of the civilized world. It's high time the citizens of Oz stand up and start saying no to government over reach. You all have an awesome country with wonderful people. Do not allow the government to ruin it. Cheers!

Let’s vote together then, you guys have 1.1M subscribers and need to throw your weight around and do some lobbying.

Taxing 4WDs in Australia would greatly impact many Aussies who depend on these vehicles for their jobs, safety, and fun. For people in rural and remote areas, 4WDs aren't just nice to have-they're necessary for getting through tough terrain and harsh weather. Taxing them more could make life harder for these folks, making it tough to reach essential services and go about their daily routines. Also, families use 4WDs for outdoor adventures and camping trips, instilling a love for nature and outdoor activities in their kids. Taxing them more could discourage families from enjoying these experiences, limiting their connection to nature and each other. Instead of punishing 4WD owners, let's focus on encouraging greener practices and giving incentives for cleaner technologies in all vehicles.

Vote#1 Shauno, leader of the Caravan, camping and Offroad party, get a voice in Canberra boys! Unite with all the other 4wd and camping channels, tv shows and personalities to put a party together, you've got my vote!

4wd 24/7 should organize a country wide protest for this. They have the reach to get to everyone that cares

Its called demand destruction. It happend during the oil shock in the late 1970's when governments said that the easy to drill crude oil is going to run out and raised the price of oil to make it too expensive to run the fuel guzzling V8's of the time. They also raised the cost of rego and government interference for manufacturers on V8 cars. To get around this manufacturers then introduced the term SUV's into the market because utility vehicles were cheaper to register as V8 cars became more expensive. V8s also became more fuel efficient as time went by. Australian Lithium (LIT) is a company that has patented SiLeach technology that recycles Lithium batteries.

Couldn’t agree more gents! Keep talking about it and hopefully it gets some traction. There’s sites with hundreds of blokes spreading the word and raising awareness on the matter all over Melbourne. Ps. Love the fails!

Love your channel . In regards to the spearing of the Blue Grouper in Sydney. I live in North Qld . We have a no take on Barramundi Cod for the main reason is that they are inquisitive fish and will come out and check you out say Gday easy target and thats what the Groupers do too. On the fuel tax issue I have a 72 beetle and a diesel 2012 dual cab hilux No "EV for me" should make some shirts with that LOGO , cheers lads

As a young bloke soon to get his first car on the road and on an apprentice wage, there is no way young blokes could by a 4wd with that much tax. Also, if they make us get EV's there is no way on a apprenticeship wage could we afford a second EV then go put a battery in because it shit its self.

The $15k thing is a furphy, thats if they can't offset it with another sale. Basically it wont actually happen you've fell hook line and sinker. Its objectively greener, but would love for you boys to have a debate over it with the CSIRO or the scientists who put together the Green Vehicle Guide. We are also 3x more than 1% of world emissions, per capita we are massive. Note this doesn't apply to commercial prime movers and i'd love to see one run 24/7, whats it not being unloaded or something? Even a two crew tractor has downtime every day, by law. Probs need to stick to 4wd stuff and stay away from the science.