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Outside View On The 1M$ Bin site Failure 

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say what you want just keep it nice. I am just talking about what ive seen online and its just an opinion. I as most of you have no personal experience in the building of this site. im just saying what ive seen. I may be wrong on all points and that's ok but im sure some will call me an asshole or you may all agree with me. I am not looking for folks to agree with me or anything else. im just expressing my opinion on a flop that I watched on RU-vid.

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@ICB-ItCouldBeWorse
@ICB-ItCouldBeWorse 9 месяцев назад
I’m 50 myself and I’ve been in construction 25+ years. From wiring 1100 square feet homes to 4000+ square feet custom homes& apartment complexes. Excavation jobs from highways projects, residential division, landfill & Lakes. I have also work for a general contractor and helped overseen projects. From letting schools, building in the schools, public library, police stations, community centers, and City Hall. From the start to the end. From before the dirt work even started to the opening. The one thing all the jobs have in common. Is they were all pushed to get done as fast as possible. So to me, there’s no excuse for saying they were being rushed. Crappy work is crappy work whether you do it faster slow. Taking pride, and what you doing always shows up in the end.
@jeannankeefe845
@jeannankeefe845 8 месяцев назад
Totally agree! Every project has deadlines, but that doesn't mean you do sloppy substandard work. I also worked on enough projects where if something was wrong noone could wait long enough to get the the problem corrected. Just bad management and lack of accountability.
@ericjenjohnson
@ericjenjohnson 9 месяцев назад
I had an accidental meeting with Daddy Corn Star “Dale” in real life at a small wedding in Iowa this past summer. He was very pleasant to me and my cousin who is a farmer. We talked for 45 minutes and to me he seemed like a very nice like a genuine person. I really wanted to ask about the bin site but thought that would be inappropriate for the occasion. 😂 I used to watch all his videos but not so much these days. The clickbait is a huge turn off and is so unnecessary.
@justthings6405
@justthings6405 9 месяцев назад
On cornstar bin site, I can't believe that a mega bin manufacturer like AGI has not sued the bin contractor's insurance company for screwing up their product display, functionality, and quality. Taking videos and pictures has nothing to do with tightening all bolts. The proper footings and cement prepping has nothing to do with videoing. The pit and auger system has nothing to do with videoing. One thing is absolute---The project was way to massive for this contractor...
@mharrye
@mharrye 9 месяцев назад
I like your opinions. Cole does have a lot of click bait and his intro is ridiculously childish, but also I am a retired engineer, one time working for the red manufacturer of Coles combine. There are basic parts of the bin site that totally lacked engineering attention, possibly because they would have cost money that would have lost them the contract. Calculations like the base, the capacity of the unloading sump drives, basics I needed to get my professional engineering license. But that brings up a point - was the system really engineered or was it, “We’ve always done it this way.” If the cameras bugged them, they should have had that in the contract. I’ve seen others say the supplier/contractor/repair shop has requested no videos of this. I do like how Cole has gone through numbers showing inputs, outputs, etc., affect the bottom line. I do find it stupid to find after 2 seasons harvesting beans and corn he learned his combine was equipped for wheat. I’m not sure I’ve watched one of Coles videos to the end although the dad talks more farm sense. I’m glad I clicked on you’re video, but the title talking about the $1million grain bin fiasco was the click bait that drew me here.
@bubbachomp5683
@bubbachomp5683 9 месяцев назад
Working for a differential and driveline shop for 20 years, I had a saying that I would tell the customers. "If you stand there and watch the work get done on your car, Murphy will stand right next to you." the best way to get someone flusterd and forget to tighten bolts is sit there and talk to the while they are working, or better yet, stick a camera in their face.
@randybreuer1685
@randybreuer1685 9 месяцев назад
As always good points , the problem the workmanship on the bin site is subpar. The site doesn’t live up to what was promised. The science on what a bin site should work like is not a secret,you don’t need to reinvent the wheel. Just copy a working plan and repeat
@buckhorncortez
@buckhorncortez 9 месяцев назад
The project was too big for the subcontractor AGI used. The entire project lacked construction supervision. AGI needed an on-site construction manager (CM) 'from the start, and Cornstar Farms should have employed their own CM for the project. The last project I worked on was a $253 million dollar project for a DOE national laboratory. We gave a proposal to the lab for construction management and were turned down, as the lab claimed they had people to do the work. Ten months into construction the project was shut down due to the majority of the work not conforming to the project drawings and specifications It took us three months to document the non-conforming work, and then another four months to devise a plan to get the work corrected. Construction management can either make or break a project.
@craigsmith8217
@craigsmith8217 9 месяцев назад
We always had trouble when the owner wanted his own construction people. One job had 7 unions involved. We backed out of that one.
@andykolb263
@andykolb263 9 месяцев назад
I concur with your assessment. I am a project manager with 38 years of experience in multiple industries, including engineering, construction, and agriculture. I watched Cole's videos and followed the progress of the project. Maybe not everyone on-site was documented in videos, but I think your analysis is likely spot-on. I *did* observe activities in those videos that really concerned me, and that I would *never* have tolerated on any project I ever managed.
@danyockey6584
@danyockey6584 9 месяцев назад
Skilled labor isn't cheap, and cheap labor isn't skilled.
@davdhynes3518
@davdhynes3518 9 месяцев назад
Cracking of pit concrete is on the earthwork contractor. Crushed stone to be considered compacted only need an excavator bucket run over it to be considered compacted that didn’t happen,I would imagine round stone needs more work. None of the loose material was compacted , also the moisture has to be right if to dry or to moist that also presents problems.
@sasfarmer
@sasfarmer 9 месяцев назад
When you switched to only part width of your header cutting and calculating your yield, did you change in the setup portion the narrower cut width of header? If you do not set to the narrower cut width, the monitor still calculates yield based on the wider width, thus yield will be lower. Those New Holland series of combines are good machines.
@onelonleyfarmer
@onelonleyfarmer 9 месяцев назад
yes I did
@tazweld
@tazweld 9 месяцев назад
The most important issue was not hiring a qualified project manager, one with experience would have caught allot if not all the issues from the very beginning before construction even started. They did not have the back ground to to manage the build themselves. When spending a million on project you want to know that it is done right once not have to sort shit out in a court room.
@java402000
@java402000 9 месяцев назад
The cat walk on that sight is just wrong. It dead ends and got to climb over the railing to get to the next walk. It is pretty sad.
@michiganfarmer5208
@michiganfarmer5208 9 месяцев назад
I do believe zach (millennial farmer) has learned from coles mistake of keeping a camera in the face of independent contractors. When they had new work done after their storm went through, he kept his distance and let the guys work. He did video clips after hours when the guys were gone. Let those guys have their privacy and let them keep focused on the job. On the other hand, i do remember cole sharing frustration that the contractors were taking longer for certain parts of the project than ehat they said it would take. As a builder myself, people dont like it if we tell them one timeline and then work at a different pace. I knew the concrete was gonna fail from the beginning. Way to much prep site buildup, minimal compacting going on. Rain. Little rebar being added. I didn't trust it for a moment but thats from looking through a camera lens so all of my opinions can be thrown out the window as i wasnt there. Thats a bummer reguardless of whos at fault because its a mess to deal with...
@derrickpettit86
@derrickpettit86 9 месяцев назад
Well let's face it, Zach is being respectful an letting the. Contractors work, an he probably knew not to do that anyways, but Cole was disrespectful to them guys, he's a clown, I blame him for it, hes all about attention, I like what you said though
@Mygirlfriend3141
@Mygirlfriend3141 9 месяцев назад
Me too I never believed somebody would actually do such a cheap job
@oldsailor8593
@oldsailor8593 9 месяцев назад
When I saw daddy cornstar walking up on the catwalks it was obviously dangerous, whoever did the install should be held accountable, camera or no camera. That is pure sorry Work.
@Mygirlfriend3141
@Mygirlfriend3141 7 месяцев назад
They loosened them themselves
@truthandfreedom885
@truthandfreedom885 8 месяцев назад
As a contractor for 40 years the biggest change in construction is all the labor is subcontracted which gives the contractor far less headaches but much less control over quality control. I would guess the bin site contractor had more work lined up then his usual subcontractors could get done and he hired a second subcontractor that was not nearly as good or had a proven track record. And the bin site contractor didn't like getting harassed by the Corn Star Family and just let the subcontractors go unsupervised. I have learned in my old age never take on more work then my usual subcontractors can get done and visit every job site everyday. Also people shouldn't hire a contractor that has never built anything or done any work himself so he understands when something is being done incorrectly he can spot a problem and fix it before it's too late.
@jeffb2456
@jeffb2456 8 месяцев назад
True story. You obviously know what you’re talking about. Cole’s communication with people on site was normally pretty positive until it was obvious the project was way behind schedule. The contractor was obviously cutting corners trying to complete the project. My impression also was a complete lack of supervision and basically leaving a group of subcontractors on their own to work together and magically make it all happen. Will be interesting to see how things shake out. It’s just not plausible that a 24 year old farmer “pushing” on subcontractors for being behind was the cause of this mess. The general contractor ran this project into the ground. The manufacturer obviously didn’t properly vet the contractor chosen to install their product. The engineering was either very poor or not followed by the general contractor or their subs. There is no excuse for a family ending up with a bin site like this one.
@JohnSmith-lw2bm
@JohnSmith-lw2bm 9 месяцев назад
You know, Millennial Farmer Zach is real good about staying out of contractor’s faces on the farm. Unless they want to be on camera.
@banjobenson9348
@banjobenson9348 9 месяцев назад
Yes it is just common sense. something the little mouth has none.
@robm3063
@robm3063 9 месяцев назад
If one was to go back and watch the build (are they still available?) on his channel and then watch Larson Farm bin build well there's your answer. A third party inspection at every stage or even a construction manager would have been money well spent.
@josephlawless6013
@josephlawless6013 9 месяцев назад
I agree there is error on both sides. Cole and the family should have setup the contract more like a true industrial job. Commission systems starting at the unload area and working toward the final bin. Setting up each system and commissioning them as they go let’s you ensure everything is working properly, get you partial use of the site as things progress, and allows both the contractor and the owner monitor process of meeting the schedule. This allows addressing overages as they occur and manage them going forward. There was one major issue they found with the unload system where all of the augers were pointed in the same direction under the adjacent bin. Not being a farmer, but working in industrial construction there are always things you find along the way. Even repeat building of the same thing you always find changes with every one. I would really like, to see you expand your facility. I could see you with an offload pit, auger or leg and several bins. Super bins seem to be the norm now, but smaller I believe could have advantages as you are not putting all the eggs in one basket to spoil together.
@altestic9436
@altestic9436 9 месяцев назад
Wouldn't your monitor be calibrated to a certain width header? So if you're only using half the header will the yield be accurate? That low yield just doesn't seem right..
@hankkinelsoni1868
@hankkinelsoni1868 9 месяцев назад
“Now it’s none of my business…….” but let me weigh in
@mikkei3532
@mikkei3532 9 месяцев назад
10:12 - His Name in Dale Langebau . btw I live in Poland and it was easy to me find him. Cheers
@hartsfire5706
@hartsfire5706 9 месяцев назад
i agree with you 110% with this hole video. Cole just learned something the vary costly way that us older people just know.(i am 60) i run my own shop out of a small garage i repair different things. to put it simple if you come in my shop screaming and saying you need something fixed right now well 1 of 2 thing will happen. you pay me 4x my normal rate as a asshole tax or you go home and find someone else to fix your junk.
@buckhorncortez
@buckhorncortez 9 месяцев назад
What's a "hole video..."? I didn't know videos had holes...
@michaelfenner4576
@michaelfenner4576 9 месяцев назад
The ones that will win are the lawyers
@nedflora1154
@nedflora1154 9 месяцев назад
👍👍Nobody wins BUT the lawyer
@ri1288
@ri1288 9 месяцев назад
Billable hours are undefeated.
@ojbudz
@ojbudz 9 месяцев назад
Cole the clickbait king.
@bigredgreg1
@bigredgreg1 9 месяцев назад
An older relative asked me to get her onto a home makeover show on network television about 10 years ago. I did some online research and found that they were looking for specific people to help who would bring viewership and were happy and bubbling with enthusiasm to make helping them more interesting. That’s the enthusiasm and sense of urgency that Cole the Cornstarch brings to his videos. It’s frenetic and unreal, in my opinion. Wes, on the other hand, confronts everyday life with resolve towards getting the work done. Cole goes on vacation to Las Vegas (been there, done that) which bores me. Wes goes on vacation to the Philippines and I get to see rice harvested! A busman’s holiday, but fascinating. I watch Cole once or twice a year now, but I seldom miss an OLF episode. I can relate to Wes. It’s not an act. 👍
@rollincoal7768
@rollincoal7768 9 месяцев назад
I quit watching Cole when he tried selling his dirt.......wow.....just wow
@banjobenson9348
@banjobenson9348 9 месяцев назад
Yes the mouth and to top it off the bin begging was the final straw for me.
@codybrown7497
@codybrown7497 9 месяцев назад
Not watching cole since he wanted us to buy bottles of dirt. Come on man
@brettmoen7240
@brettmoen7240 9 месяцев назад
The selling of dirt was pretty pathetic. Also, asking subscribers to donate to the church, only to come back and say the original ask was low, and that they needed more was right up there too.
@stevedraper3212
@stevedraper3212 9 месяцев назад
I watch Cole all the time and I appreciate the added effort by Cole and his family to make their videos entertaining and real. I am from Iowa and maybe that has something to do with it too. Anyways, as far as their bin site problems go, the lawyers will have to figure that out in court. So I'm not gonna judge Cole or his family one way or another. I just want them to keep sharing their vids so I have some really enjoyable content to watch. I feel like they are family in a very extended way, and btw I enjoy watching this channel too.
@Nobody-Nowhere-USA
@Nobody-Nowhere-USA 9 месяцев назад
I think the judgement will be on the horrible performance of the general contractor in the end!
@onelonleyfarmer
@onelonleyfarmer 8 месяцев назад
@@Nobody-Nowhere-USA I actually agree with you.
@SlipShodBob
@SlipShodBob 9 месяцев назад
It will be interesting to see the judgement and summary of the court case after it is done, to be honest I prefer his dads channel as while he may be a lot... well a fair bit older than myself I find Cole's style rather jolting with no flow but each to their own and his demographic who he would rightly want to target is likely at least half my age. It has got to be a frustrating situation to be in it was frustrating enough for us when it took 10 months from the scheduled start date to put up a steel barn only for them have to come back after finding they hadn't bolted the stanchions at the ends to the rafters. One of the reasons I find myself drawn to the US videos is the differences as here most crops are stored in barns akin to Andy's "Farming, Fixing and Fabrication" silage bunks but roofed and sided with pedestal fans being placed into cool the crops and control moisture where its then scooped out of via a payloader or telehandler into the trucks with half a dozen bucket loads. Some of it I believe is down to how bins are taxed here compared to shed some because they can then be used for other things when empty. There was an interesting debate on the pros and cons some time ago on The Farming Forum but it did surprise me how many seemed to think you all still used 4 inch augers even on 50,000 bushel bins that it would take hours to fill a semi. Ignoring any differences in costs I'd still likely go barn if it was me for the same reason I'd go bunk rather than HarvestStore because I absolutely hate heights, love flying but I hate climbing on the roof of our old pig buildings which are only 15ft to the apex tall
@ronlarson2561
@ronlarson2561 9 месяцев назад
I agree with you. He also should of done more research and toured other bin sites to see how they worked like Larson Farms or Zake Johson's farm and done it slowly. I hope he makes it
@ericwendlandt7808
@ericwendlandt7808 9 месяцев назад
I dont think that pit will ever work. Every other 1 that has that capacity has 2 unload augers instead of just 1. Think the mfg tried and experiment on cornstars set up that isnt working.
@Rooftopmatty
@Rooftopmatty 9 месяцев назад
@@ericwendlandt7808 he mentioned in a video he had an 8000 bushel per hour pit and a 6000 bushel per hour leg, that motor in the pit is ment to run at 8000 dry bushel per hour they have slowed the motor down to accommodate the leg, those motors arnt ment to be slowed and work the same, it would be like putting an undersized motor, doesn’t have the power needed to run that auger so it’s burns belts off
@Showboat_Six
@Showboat_Six 8 месяцев назад
Just wondering how many rounds can you make with an all electric combine?
@Mygirlfriend3141
@Mygirlfriend3141 7 месяцев назад
Maybe would be perfect for a garden
@marycrossan9000
@marycrossan9000 9 месяцев назад
When Cole tried to sell jars of dirt to pay for his million pound bin site that’s when I felt his Chanel changed and not for the good
@laurencegibbs2753
@laurencegibbs2753 9 месяцев назад
From what I have seen of the situation, and what they have said, the corn stars are very particular, and as it’s not exactly what it is specified it’s wrong, biggest mistake is the reception pits but on the flip side, the cornstars have mentioned that they have sued building companies before and won. Says it all.
@Krisb193
@Krisb193 9 месяцев назад
when your foundation is breaking apart on your wet bin? As someone that has poured bin floors that shouldn't be happening.
@derrickpettit86
@derrickpettit86 9 месяцев назад
Yeah there after money, I can't stand Cole, he's a little kid wanting attention, I don't blame the builders, if there's a camera in your face an someone bugging you to hurry, mistakes are gonna get made, he's a kid that's young an hasn't grown up yet
@PaulsonFarms
@PaulsonFarms 9 месяцев назад
@@Krisb193 it can happen if the cornstars were pushing the contractor to get it done and they poured mud on un-compacted subgrade or they poured concrete when it was not ideal.
@JayW0lf
@JayW0lf 9 месяцев назад
Your voice and demeanor are much easier on my ears and brain after a long day than the Cornstars.
@ohiofarmlife4020
@ohiofarmlife4020 9 месяцев назад
I think the built what they needed as far as bushels and designed it to add more bins as they grow, I agree with building big bins instead of ending up with a bunch 20,000 bu bins by the end of your career, and once you get bins that big filling with an auger really isn’t an option so the leg was needed and why your there might as well tie the dryer in. The house they built to hold the electrical boxes was just a waste of money. The biggest mistake I thin he has made was he bought all that Gravle and just spread it on top of the top soil, around here that would be pushed down into the dirt and you will just end up with mud.
@onlygazza
@onlygazza 9 месяцев назад
Cole will have trouble getting contractors in the future if he destroys that firm !
@GRANITEMONUMENT
@GRANITEMONUMENT 9 месяцев назад
No, because no contractor ever goes in planning on doing a crap job…
@dharrison6832
@dharrison6832 9 месяцев назад
No he won't people.gotta.eat
@GRANITEMONUMENT
@GRANITEMONUMENT 9 месяцев назад
In fact I’d be willing to bet he’s had a handful of offers to step in and repair what has already been done..
@norm-nas
@norm-nas 9 месяцев назад
@@GRANITEMONUMENT Yes, because a really well done repair job would be all over U tube, and the fixers would be swamped with work.
@ericwendlandt7808
@ericwendlandt7808 9 месяцев назад
Wes. Even if Cole was pushing that regularly happens. And would have been the bin builders management to address. That being said in my day we had customers come out talk and take pictures not video 24x7. My biggest concern isnt the operation of the site its the lack of complete safety rails ect up top. Cant beleive the bin company walked off from that part. Great discussion. Enjoy your content
@onelonleyfarmer
@onelonleyfarmer 9 месяцев назад
I agree.
@NexLevelBacon
@NexLevelBacon 9 месяцев назад
If I were the contractor I’d charge high end because of how annoying the persona is and i think it’s hard for a lot of people to take orders from someone younger and more successful 😂
@noneofyourbusiness1990
@noneofyourbusiness1990 9 месяцев назад
Sorry, I am the f..k..g customer, I give you money for doing your Job right (money that I have to work hard for and have to pay back to the Bank) and not deliver this crap even if the contractor got pissed off at some point, there is no damn reason to no fulfill the job you are being paid for. There is a German saying " Der Kunde ist König " means the customer is king. Just imagine someone from the cornstar family or any family falls to death while being on the bin site ... what is the contractor doing than. Besides, to make it clear the contractor could have said in the beginning that he or his employees don't want to be recorded while doing the job.
@user-pd7qe8he5g
@user-pd7qe8he5g 9 месяцев назад
DWWSWWD! Our company motto! Do What We Say We Will Do! Our reputation is on how a job is left. We operate on 90% repeat business
@kyletrump8025
@kyletrump8025 9 месяцев назад
​@noneofyourbusiness1990 lol. Customer is king 😂😂
@zcole6612
@zcole6612 9 месяцев назад
They had 2 bids on the binsite . They went with the cheapest guy . Poor pad prep it was a Cut and fill job with no sheep's foot or drum roller . The bin contracter reminded me of a Used car salesman on the bad side of town . It kinda there fault for going cheap and picking a screw ball
@hammerslammer3006
@hammerslammer3006 8 месяцев назад
From what i understand, they were promised the binsite would be ready in plenty of time for harvest... they did other "quick jobs" when they were supposed to have started the cornstar project. That said, i agree with you on the rest
@CattleandCountry
@CattleandCountry 9 месяцев назад
I’m unable to watch Cole. My blood pressure and sanity can not tolerate more then 45 seconds of him.
@lowellwalter9420
@lowellwalter9420 9 месяцев назад
Regarding Cole’s bin site, he did a video explaining the financial justification for it. The justification was not very good. The payback period was multiple decades if I remember correctly.
@J-1410
@J-1410 5 месяцев назад
I would assume AGI kicked something in for it, an amount that can not be mentioned, legally. It would have been great publicity, if it had went well.
@darylcleavenger7585
@darylcleavenger7585 9 месяцев назад
I am curious what the cost difference would be between your different varieties you've planted on your test plot VS. say what they actually produced. It can be said they may have produced more or less but how could we know if those costs (if any) are worth justifying?
@peteweby2014
@peteweby2014 9 месяцев назад
Yes Wessley I heard the cab corn😂 that voice had me in stitches.
@joeldurheim5831
@joeldurheim5831 9 месяцев назад
Take for instance the slab for the hopper bin, when they poured that slab on video, I could see that the footing’s were not even close to what was needed for that size of bin and the base was not excavated and packed enough either. Cole watched all of this and he knew what was needed because he was the one that tore out the old pad that it sat on and it took him days to remove it. One could see that that pad would fail immediately and it did. When you do a project like that you need to do a little research and planning ahead of time so you can recognize when things don’t like right and if you don’t have that knowledge find someone who does. There are always a retired contractor or engineer that’s willing to oversee a big project like that one. I think that Cole was the general contractor on at least part of the project so he has some responsibility too. And don’t forget Cole applied for the cheap government loan that if anyone has done that you know it adds a year to any project at minimum. You probably remember that they couldn’t start the project on time because the paperwork was not completed, at that point it should’ve been pushed back a year and that is all on Cole. Anyone that has done a project like this could see all the potential problems popping up and knew that it was going to be a disaster 😂😂😂😂
@russellfulton6861
@russellfulton6861 9 месяцев назад
You say about knowing because of seeing the old 1…. There are a lot of people that could get slapped in the face and not know what to look for seeing a hand coming at them the next time just no practical common sense, those also tend to be the people that bitch and moan when it goes wrong
@nikphoenix
@nikphoenix 9 месяцев назад
Watch how Larson's did all the prep work for their new bin and how long it took vs the just dig and pour that cole did. Cole thought he knew how bins where built because he had put them up before, as he said on video. He got in way over his head.
@brandont3912
@brandont3912 6 месяцев назад
The last combine I ran was a 6600 JD with none of the computer stuff. All though it would be a great feature to have auto steer.
@shanewolbert2727
@shanewolbert2727 8 месяцев назад
I have read through some of the comments below and see a lot of great points. But the one that stands out to me above others and rings in my mind when I watch cornstar videos is.. set aside sub contractors, and manufactures for a second. Who ever was the engineer on the bin site project is the number one person to hold accountable ( I don't remember if it was the bin manufacture who provided this service or not.) {unless the blue prints were not followed to the engineered specification.}But the actual equipment works as it should, disagree if you like, but they have no problems with the bins, the leg, or any equipment that cannot be directly connected to engineering flaws. The pit augur ( which is a design issue they have even made light of with two half of the pit coming together to one point by augurs in the center), the failing foundation, and even in one video the placement of an unload on a bin in relation to another are design issues by whoever produced the blue prints for the site. A project of that size should have employed a foreman other than one of the cornstars to make sure things were done the way they should have been and no corners were cut. and as previously mentioned, if this was the responsibility of the manufacture then the cornstar family should have stepped up and made a call or had language in the contract stating how often such an inspector was to be onsite. As for the poor workmanship and flaws in welds, failing safety rails due to improper tightening or unsecure fastening, and walkways being secure falls back on the sub contractors but would have had their work overseen by a foreman or inspector trained to identify such problems. I just hope for the cornstar family that some kind of decision is reached to give them a safe and properly working bin site. I also agree things needed to be done in stages to get all the ducks in a row to help the site to be used to its maximum potential. The grain dryer for example is a bottle neck on the site that should have been address before or in the initial planning of the site. This year they were slowed by the dryer and its capabilities. regardless of wet storage combing at the number of bushels per hour they do would have eventually caused the same set back as experienced this season. In my opinion if you plan a project your production rate should never be able to overrun the rate of whatever one of the final processes are to reach an end product. I know that this is impossible when drying corn usually as the harvest rate in always very fast, but drying at 300 bushels an hour when combining at several thousand bushels an hour is a very easily correctable issue from the start.
@GRANITEMONUMENT
@GRANITEMONUMENT 9 месяцев назад
Wes while you were talking, was your combine picking up more than just corn??
@mortalman01
@mortalman01 9 месяцев назад
Its a lot of folks out there don’t take the time to realize how blessed they are to be healthy and happy in the day. It is just taken for granted.
@michaelthompson8504
@michaelthompson8504 8 месяцев назад
Everyone on here talking about how a camera would make you flustered. I'm a truck driver, I deal with camera's all the time and messing up a job because I got flustered is never a valid excuse. I'm floored that anyone would even consider that. That bin site is completely on the contracts, I don't see how Cole and family should have known to biuld in increments or to hire a CM. I wouldn't have. I would have relied on the contractor to tell me that needed to be done. If one of them falls off the bin while working, that's gonna be another massive lawsuit.
@steamfan7147
@steamfan7147 9 месяцев назад
Wes, from what I saw watching all the bin site construction videos the Cornstars got screwed over royally by the contractor. I don't think it was really intentional on his part, I think he was just out of his depth and doesn't have a clue what foundations and steel erection of that scope involves. Cole's biggest mistake was not setting the contract up as an escrow contract. Usually 1/3 of the money is down for the start, then another third is paid out as work is completed, the final third is only paid out after the job is finished and all aspects meet final requirements. Once you pay out a contractor, it's hard to get their attention to fix any problems that pop up. The other thing I would have done, would have been to hire a third party structural engineer to over see the construction. The foundations I saw being built were vastly deficient. Not nearly enough rebar, rebar of the wrong type and wrong spacing. The cast columns for the grain leg and the over head catwalk design are criminal.
@norm-nas
@norm-nas 9 месяцев назад
Well said.
@amunderdog
@amunderdog 9 месяцев назад
No Construction Superintendent. Never did see anyone leading the effort. From the beginning they had no exact plan. They seemed to be working from a napkin drawing.
@Mygirlfriend3141
@Mygirlfriend3141 9 месяцев назад
But Cole saw everything being done he should have said something he's just bad if not worse than the contractor
@steamfan7147
@steamfan7147 9 месяцев назад
@@Mygirlfriend3141 I could be wrong, but I don't think Cole is a structural engineer.
@norm-nas
@norm-nas 9 месяцев назад
@@steamfan7147 and the guy was 22 when this all started.
@steveo4749
@steveo4749 9 месяцев назад
The Cornstar bin site problems are either design or construction issues. If you saw how rickety the handrails are on the top of the bins, I would not allow ANYONE to go up there. They would not support any weight. How can that be the owners fault? Same way with the bin concrete slab failure or equipment not meeting the proposed feeding capacity. These are failures of design and no pointing of cameras is going to cause those failures.
@onelonleyfarmer
@onelonleyfarmer 9 месяцев назад
I don't want to point out that a lot of things went on off camera. I am a creator and I know sometimes in sensitive situations the camera goes off and stuff happens when its off. as for the railing its deplorable at best. but was it? or did it become that way when the camera was off. im not saying it did im just saying we only show what we want you to see. but to make a case more in your favor things may have gotten worse for when the camera was running. trust me it happens and it happens a lot by people that you wouldn't expect would be capable of it. ive seen it with my own eyes.
@jamesm.schmidt616
@jamesm.schmidt616 9 месяцев назад
That broken concrete slab from the receiving bin is a major screw-up. Did the bin company pour the concrete? Or sub-contracted out?
@kluckfabrication5991
@kluckfabrication5991 9 месяцев назад
Waiting till they pull the bin floors, he isn’t talking about the major crack in the big bins lol. What’s your take on the new corn head they are pushing that is turning into major pain in the butt.
@layne696
@layne696 9 месяцев назад
This is EXACTLY why I watch this channel !!!!! THANKS Wes..
@danw6014
@danw6014 9 месяцев назад
I thought Cole came off as obnoxious and that first impression turned me away. My dad was a carpenter but he could do anything from replace a hot water heater to rebuild a stone wall in a barn to fine cabinetry. He always over bid and under billed. There were times however where the customers needed to do something to make a job turn out right but they wouldn't spend the money to do it.
@williamhamill813
@williamhamill813 9 месяцев назад
Well. What if there was a timeframe in the contract?
@bobjones8864
@bobjones8864 8 месяцев назад
I worked in an industry where customers were often under great stress and doing a half ass job would possibly cause physical harm. So if the customer is difficult you do quality work so you sleep well.
@millennialcarpenter1784
@millennialcarpenter1784 9 месяцев назад
I tried so hard to get Cole not to build that when he did I emailed him put messages on every video DM every social media account. The only people that were working during the pandemic were the people unqualified because all the qualified people could afford to stay home. I’ve been dealing with this for the past three years fixing shotty, shitty workmanship, because nobody had the patience to wait so these companies went out and hired the bottom of the barrel.
@ronniejenkins4633
@ronniejenkins4633 9 месяцев назад
I am not familiar with the bin situation because I have never watched their videos, sounds like that they have a problem, I feel like you do Wes but that is just my opinion, I like the way that you run your operation straight up and to the point, good to see the combine doing a good job, from some of the videos I have seen they would like to have some yields like you are having, I enjoyed this video, have a good rest of the harvest!!
@NotSexualAtAll
@NotSexualAtAll 9 месяцев назад
Yep.. we had a ton of accidents and fatalities during those years, too. Shutting down the economy cost so many lives, so much money, and so much of our productivity.
@timwestendorf8303
@timwestendorf8303 9 месяцев назад
1000% yes. I run a welding shop in Illinois, I ran into the same problem. I would subcontract to other companies to do millwright work. And some of the guys working along side us had no experience and would fail a drug or even breathalyzer test.
@machintelligence
@machintelligence 9 месяцев назад
When you want something done in the worst possible way -- that is generally what you get.
@nathanmeece9794
@nathanmeece9794 9 месяцев назад
I enjoy watching your channel as well as others. One channel I especially enjoy is the Grumpy Farmer. He expeesees his feelings regardless as to what what others think. He has a New Holland combine. He's been having problems with the computer on the combine . He's had newer software installed Two men from New Holland headquarters came to help resolve his issues.
@onelonleyfarmer
@onelonleyfarmer 9 месяцев назад
I am not really interested In the computer on the combine as I am really just interested in what goes to the mill. nothing in between matters. as long as its clean enough and not throwing it on the ground im good.
@ramshackleshack751
@ramshackleshack751 9 месяцев назад
I feel the same way wes. Stage one pit leg and one bin. Stage two new dryer and one bin. Kinda bit off more than you can chew type of thing. I can't believe the builder would do such a crap job. Knowing thousands of people....people in there territory would see it. I'm guessing a lot of customers lost.
@johnwhite5897
@johnwhite5897 9 месяцев назад
The job Cole and Zach are doing is for the non farmer. You guys get the over drama but it's also helping us non farmers to see that farming is more than done guy in ripped up jeans and a pick up delivering corn to a vegetable stand on the highway. I've been watching several farmers for several years now, my respect has done nothing but grown for the farmer. I'm sixty so I've seen some things in my life my father was born and raised in Alabama when the only job was farming but watching these older farmers changing with the times is the most amazing part of my watching. From tractors with no cab to setting gps coordinates in a million dollar machine that now is larger than the trucks that haul their grain. SO THANX TO THE GUYS WHO ARE WILLING TO OVER DRAMATIZE WHAT THEY DO TO KEEP PEOPLE LIKE ME LEARNING AND HAVING APPRECIATION FOR THIS COUNTRY AND IT'S PEOPLE
@jimjordan7647
@jimjordan7647 9 месяцев назад
I can’t stand any channel that has to put a dollar amount of what they spent in the title of their videos. That whole channel comes off really childish and strange. There are plenty of other channels that have built grain bins. Those creators simply put up a camera and let a time lapse capture the work. If you stay in a contractors face you will not get a quality job.
@TheGrumpyFarmer
@TheGrumpyFarmer 9 месяцев назад
How’s your test weight Wes
@mikemontgomery7337
@mikemontgomery7337 8 месяцев назад
I agree. I almost never watch their channel. They drive me nuts.
@GaryPClark
@GaryPClark 9 месяцев назад
My guess is the contractor had too many jobs in line due to the big winds that wrecked many farms in Iowa that year including Cole's. The contractor made promises on the schedule he could not keep, put pressure on his workers and with a harvest needing to put up or sold, the Cornstars did what most people do when the product is late. They complained! All things considered, it seems parts of it were bad design and shoddy work. If it had been a normal construction year, the contractors would have been on time and did a better job.
@steveo4749
@steveo4749 9 месяцев назад
Exactly! The urgency increased as the schedule slipped and the next harvest was due. We will see if the original design was deficient or it wasn't built per the plans and specs. Having an onsite bin inspector would have been beneficial but obviously, added cost. I would like to know the experience of the bin site designers. As was mentioned by others, some equipment seems under designed/ under engineered. There is a video, where a bin door at the top cannot be opened due to the safety railing. How does the happen and why was it left that way?
@plem7210
@plem7210 9 месяцев назад
@@steveo4749 I knew that site would not be completed in time. It was not started near early enough. Plus I think business had enough trouble getting help. Good chance they had enough new employees on site. So pushing them to get the bin site done. Makes bad work. I have helped put up smaller bins myself. On my farm. Like others have posted. Put up the leg dump and one big bin first. Then add the second bin the next year. As far as someone’s Coles age being the general contractor. That is just crazy. You could blame the contractor for not putting the under floor augers in the right spot. They had to change that. So you could pull the augers out. That’s something an experienced general contractor would catch. Plus Cole messed up the height to fit trucks under the mid bin unload pipes. He Even admitted the bin builders did not know they were going to add a bunch of gravel next to the bin. Making the semis to high.
@boohooduh6997
@boohooduh6997 8 месяцев назад
Interesting theory, contractor was clout chasing, and then messed everything up because he was getting what he wanted. But it's partly cole's fault.
@tomwillis9051
@tomwillis9051 9 месяцев назад
I enjoyed hearing another down home honest opinion about their failures. To me .. Regardless the work done was shoddy at best.. you might be right having that constant pressure of phone calls and annoyance might have amplified their desire to just "get out of there". My opinion is in the middle ... Contractor was overbooked, hired sub-contractors who normally aren't as busy and need supervision.. Personal thoughts are they hired subs who were over their heads.. Big difference building a 15,000 bushel versus 150,000 .. Corners were cut (Easiest to see is they poured concrete with too little bags and way too wet to top it off poor site preparations..) I agree with you slowing down and working in phases might have been a better way .. good advise looking forward
@SagittariusChris
@SagittariusChris 9 месяцев назад
Honestly, I can't stand them 3...
@Farmingfrommyangle.
@Farmingfrommyangle. 9 месяцев назад
They actually did have phases in place. Cole made a video on that. Do i gree with how they started the expansion? No, but they did have the plans and the future plans are to triple the size of the setup.
@billbrown6889
@billbrown6889 9 месяцев назад
Cornstarch should have hired A construction inspector to make sure it was completed correctly. I would hope that there was a complete date included in the contract and a performance bond. No one likes to work for somebody that keeps jabbing to get the job done. I've seen contractors slow the job down but still completed by the date originally agreed on jut to piss off this type of owner.
@kevinknoff9809
@kevinknoff9809 9 месяцев назад
You ever plant Dekub seed corn? My grandfather planted it in western, IA.
@norm-nas
@norm-nas 9 месяцев назад
Dekalb corn is great, I plant it and it does well.
@jfarmall77
@jfarmall77 7 месяцев назад
Ill be honest from my experience working in a agriculture based mill the contractors companies send to install equipment and machinery are sub par to a exteme degree generally we have to go behind everything they do because its left loose put together wrong and so on. Watching there bin site video nothing surprises me cause thats just what we expect with commercial contractors where i work. Our local contractors are the only quality work we get from outside.
@theda850two
@theda850two 9 месяцев назад
The video Cole put out a little while back, about the spacing of corn plants and/or gaps in between corn and soybean was really informational, I give him Really big kudos for putting that all together
@onelonleyfarmer
@onelonleyfarmer 9 месяцев назад
me too
@Oliver-kv2mm
@Oliver-kv2mm 9 месяцев назад
Border View Farms, ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-M-0QuyXTnV8.html Gives a very good explanation Of crop population, fertilizer rates and fungicides. He is very informative.
@scw2cool
@scw2cool 8 месяцев назад
Rumor is the trial in next spring. If the constars lose the land with the bins goes to Sheriff sale. $300,000 withheld from the contractor. Nonone wins in court, except the lawyers...
@steveo4749
@steveo4749 9 месяцев назад
At video 5 minutes when your yield went down, did you reset settings from 12 row to 6 rows?
@onelonleyfarmer
@onelonleyfarmer 9 месяцев назад
I did yes
@jimhanlon7589
@jimhanlon7589 9 месяцев назад
With a 24 row planter and a 12 row combine Has your overall fuel consumption gone down ???
@onelonleyfarmer
@onelonleyfarmer 9 месяцев назад
yes
@steveniemyer9288
@steveniemyer9288 9 месяцев назад
I don’t know anything about farming. However, I know that on any construction project I have ever been a part of there are deadlines that have to be met, there are change orders, delays of all kinds, etc. working in a construction site is nothing but pressure. My guess would be that the “reputable company” subbed out work to people they shouldn’t have.
@shortconcert
@shortconcert 8 месяцев назад
Cole understands how to entertain the younger generation. It's why he gets the views and clicks. It's why the Chiefs are getting the ratings they're getting... because Taylor is there and making it more than just sports. MLB hasn't figured this out... and as older generations die off, very few young people want to enjoy 3.5 hours of pure, traditional baseball. There are too many things trying to catch our attention these days. Fox and CNN blow the PBS News Hour out of the water in ratings.... why? They don't just give the news... they make it entertaining. If you want RAW news.... watch the PBS News Hour. I challenge you to get through the hour without playing with your phone. Basically, Cole gets the direction that entertainment is going in. He'd be a hell of a TV producer.
@Mygirlfriend3141
@Mygirlfriend3141 7 месяцев назад
Cole entertainment the stupid ignorant city slickers
@ncpanther
@ncpanther 9 месяцев назад
Cole should have never built that bin site. They had land for sale beside them that would have been 3x better investment than the bin site and the combine. To each their own tho. God bless them and wish them the best regardless
@easternshorefarmer
@easternshorefarmer 9 месяцев назад
I agree 100% I don’t know y the contractor just doesn’t go over and fix it, some of it just looked like bolts needed to be put in handrails, of course u have to remember on coles channel everything is exaggerated but he is irritating and can u imagine him in ur face all day with a camera
@craigsmith8217
@craigsmith8217 9 месяцев назад
Cole seems to be very good at planning. Cooper seems to be very good with the nuts and bolts. They should talk more.
@Mygirlfriend3141
@Mygirlfriend3141 7 месяцев назад
Cole is good at making debt
@JohnSmith-lw2bm
@JohnSmith-lw2bm 9 месяцев назад
I appreciate your take on the cornstars. Most of us aren’t farmers but, I think you’re correct about workers with cameras in their faces.
@andymink9606
@andymink9606 9 месяцев назад
I don’t know about the concrete, how bad it really is. But most grain elevators have full time maintenance guys that fix that kind of stuff all day every day. A system that big just requires a lot of maintenance, even when it is new.
@lindsaycallanan6350
@lindsaycallanan6350 9 месяцев назад
I agree 100% with your views and I've always noticed Col never does wrong it always the machinery manufacturers , suppliers and contractors that always 🤬 up and never him !! And it's always about him and his farm always me and me
@banjobenson9348
@banjobenson9348 9 месяцев назад
yep and he still needs diapers changed,.
@laurencegibbs2753
@laurencegibbs2753 9 месяцев назад
As for loading out of a building, I’m from the uk, and the farm where I work stores 8000 metric tonnes on floor, not a problem with blowing floors and the building itself is more versatile in the sense of once it’s empty it can be machine storage or something else, we also have a 1000 ton bin, and it is great too, but if the conveyor breaks your screwed, with flat floor if the loader breaks we use the other one, if that breaks it’s not a specialised machine to buy or borrow.
@JohnGotts
@JohnGotts 9 месяцев назад
Regardless of whether or not you like Cole, he got screwed. Cole is a farmer, not a construction company. When I pay someone to do something I expect them to do the work correctly. Nothing that Cole has said or done (whether he films the work or criticizes it) changes that. The construction company didn't do the work they agreed to. Specifically what they failed to do can be worked out in court. If they did the work they agreed to then Cole would be heaping praise on them.
@Allhatnocattle-fb5fd
@Allhatnocattle-fb5fd 5 месяцев назад
I wonder how he’s going to sue the contractor on the $7000 mansion.
@ryanwillett728
@ryanwillett728 8 месяцев назад
I appreciate your perspective but when they started the job they knew the time line. They, the contractor blew the time line. He pushed but pushed to make them honor the time line. Reputable builders do quality work, end of subject. That build was anything but. Stuff misaligned, not welded right, poorly built all around. In the end the contractors insurance will have to pay abs the cornstarch will struggle to find another contractor to do the work for fear of the exposure.
@onelonleyfarmer
@onelonleyfarmer 8 месяцев назад
there are delays in every thing we do. weather supply issues workers quality of the worker. now when you push a low quality worker with a limited supply of whatever. even if there is a deadline its not good to go gonzo on them for not making it. like I said in the video its both parties fault. but if I had a camera in my face when im stressed out for not getting it done id be pissed off. a little understanding would have gone a long way. on both sides. now the cornstarch has to deal with what I personally think should be a complete teardown and redo of the site.
@ryanwillett728
@ryanwillett728 8 месяцев назад
I get your point - to an extent. I think the bottom line is low quality craftsmanship and wanting to be off the job. On more than one occasion I’ve gotten crap work out of a contractor because he over ran one job and it pushed into his start time for the next. Which they in turn started, stopped, then came back to finish mine in the worst possible way. I can see something similar here. He was over committed and sent his C team to do the finish work.
@brysonhaggard
@brysonhaggard 8 месяцев назад
Well if the cornstars done the site prep right and they even had the build set back said in a video and his stupid ass running around I'm younger then Cole and have more respect for people and have build bins and it takes 2 years plus to do it right so yeah Cole fucked himself
@DAVIDZ-vk4yv
@DAVIDZ-vk4yv 9 месяцев назад
cole reminds me of my neighbor. there are 2 boys and mommy and daddy raised them that they ARE number 1 there is NO one any better than them? they pull out in front of ANY one with tractors and combines and they ARE pissing off people they deal with. last year i got a deer horn in my combine tire it happens. they told me on thursday when i called they would try and make it saturday morning. they came saturday and i said where are you going now? they said well your neighbor called us friday morning for a flat BUT we ARE sooooo tired of them being boss of us and we dont do stuff right and they tell every one we are no good so now we follow the list sooo we MIGHT get there monday afternoon or tuesday morning! my tire guy IS a great guy BUT you can only be run down for so long before you just dont care.
@JohnSmith-gb5vg
@JohnSmith-gb5vg 9 месяцев назад
They weren’t rushed, they were not keeping to the timeline that was part of the bid. That’s all Cole was having an issue with. And if you’re going to half a$$ you’re workmanship just to make a point against your client, that pretty unprofessional and petty. Also, as you pointed out, the exposure should have ensured they would do the job right. Seems you have more of a personal issue with the Corn stars.
@rogerray7820
@rogerray7820 9 месяцев назад
I've watched a few of Cole's videos and wasn't impressed. He hasn't reached a level of maturity yet to be a man. Too much over dramatic BS and wanting to be the Star. He really would do well to step back and take the time to grow as a man before he gets to far away from reality. Formal education doesn't make you smart. I know a lot of farmers who are very successful and don't even have an 8th grade education but are extremely wise about farming and farm business. Youth can hinder success.
@geijoe1926
@geijoe1926 9 месяцев назад
Cole talks 2 babys
@user-df3jd2oj7x
@user-df3jd2oj7x 9 месяцев назад
Hi, lonely farmer. You are one of the best farmer channels on RU-vid. I watch once in a while. Cole the cornstar. What a clown show he's got.Good luck, and God bless with harvest from across the pond in Great Britain.
@379insk
@379insk 9 месяцев назад
Cole is utterly annoying. Nothing but Clikbait. Really lost credibility with me when he was e begging to sell dirt vials!
@farmer7229
@farmer7229 9 месяцев назад
looks like they wanted a €2million dollar bin site for €1million
@johnrose9840
@johnrose9840 9 месяцев назад
I like to listen to you, explain things and talk but I also like to see when I'm riding along with you where we're going. Have a blessed day
@Lau-zon180
@Lau-zon180 9 месяцев назад
I stopped watching Cole a long time ago, once in awhile i watch his dad's channel
@johnstanley1689
@johnstanley1689 9 месяцев назад
The bin contractor should do the right thing and do his best to make it right. It being 60k over could have been because it was during the pandemic. Being a contractor for myself, We do commercial work and during the pandemic prices would go up weekly on material and it was very frustrating because there becomes a point as a contractor you can't eat that. I remember during a big commercial remodel on a church. I had to sit down with them 6 different times To talk about the price of some material had gone up 4 more than Originally quoted. I also agree with you. Somebody sticking a camera in your face. Telling you to hurry up, hurry up. It's not fun but as a contractor that's something you address in private and tell them don't do. Hopefully that all made sense😊
@onelonleyfarmer
@onelonleyfarmer 9 месяцев назад
I agree with you on the over running costs in the pandemic.
@The_JEB
@The_JEB 9 месяцев назад
Theres a certain way to go about the camera thing, the Welkers filmed their house builds but didnt shove the camera in the workers faces and also jumped in and helped. If Cole and the bin builder sat down and talked a simple "hey, im going to film the work being done" and a response of "ok but dont get in our way and dont rush us" would have solved a lot
@scw2cool
@scw2cool 8 месяцев назад
He held $300,000 of their money. Good luck getting them back. A lien on the land will cause a Sheriff sale.
@thedonleroy
@thedonleroy 9 месяцев назад
Rushed or not, to do shoddy work like that is inexcusable. Somebody could be killed the way the safety equipment was built. Shi*** concrete work, bins you can't fill. In my opinion that company should not ever be allowed to build anything again.
@onelonleyfarmer
@onelonleyfarmer 9 месяцев назад
I couldn't agree more. but there is more to that story.
@Mygirlfriend3141
@Mygirlfriend3141 9 месяцев назад
But they're prep work was extremely poor so if everything moves as the ground does nothing will work mostly Cole's fault
@thedonleroy
@thedonleroy 9 месяцев назад
@@Mygirlfriend3141 If the prep work was poor shouldn't the builders have recognized that & not started the build?
@Mygirlfriend3141
@Mygirlfriend3141 9 месяцев назад
@@thedonleroy it is two sided thing like every page has two sides
@MrSnyper360
@MrSnyper360 9 месяцев назад
All coles videos are click bait IMO. But that Bin site they approved from design out and then complained about the design from the point it was turned over to them. I feel like they have problems because of them, whether it be the bin site or his house or the combine. They are getting too big too fast and don't have the experience to run the way they do properly.
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