OVERPITCHING and LTE can lead to a HELICOPTER CRASH 

Yeah, same here - well done, Mischa!

its actually amazing how he humbly explains things. Im a firm beleiver in when someone truly understands their subject they can explain it easily. This guy is a leader in the industry. EDIT : RIP little cbi :(

Same here. I wonder if the altitude surprised this guy too with less engine power.

Same here!! I am a private fixed wing pilot. Great job! I really like this channel

Concur

Anthony Costanza thanks for taking the time to write all that, You sir are a badass, Thank you for your service and for sharing your knowledge!

Thank you for the information...and your service in Vietnam

Thank you for your service brother. TH55A, Cairns at Mother Rucker. Wonder if Enterprise is still a dry town?

Wow, what an endorsement from a Viet vet. Misha, you must be doing something right (lol).

Are you from Cincinnati?

yep. never had to deal with thin of a power margin but high da always a consideration. why you would even think to try that over the water just amazes me. had it happened over the ground it would have been an embarrassing learning opportunity and not a loss of a 1/4 million dollar aircraft

Yy

High elevation and inexperience is my guess

It looks like a mountainous area, so I'm thinking he has never flown at that altitude before. He's probably used to flying at or close to sea level and he probably pulled that hover off a thousand times before at sea level with no problem. That's my guess.

I have the same question. Why isn't this scenario built into some guard rail automation to prevent. What's the definitive answer, does anyone know?

@@JayPatel101 I find your question problematic. Relying on technology is exactly why some "pilots" are running into trouble in commercial aviation. The SFO Asiana crash being a prime example! In this situation, he didn't have enough power to do what he was trying to do, and didn't leave himself enough altitude to escape. No technology is going to help you at that point! Self-inflating pontoons, notwithstanding! 🙂

@@BitwiseMobile the helicopter in the video is an older type. It appears to be a Schweizer S300 or similar. Technologies that might’ve helped the pilot avoid this problem may be lacking in such an older aircraft. The problem here was the pilot’s lack of training OR failure to apply the training received.

Yea this guy knows his stuff Well done man top pilot👌👍

Fred Harms ...that’d be awesome training technique or practice

yep. except i'd think you'd have to be super high/hot/heavy to have much problems with the blackhawk. the apache never ran out of power. the cobra, sometimes. i would probably be an ntsb report if i tried to fly one of those little thingys

wyatt wells, hater will be haters, nobody can make happy everyone

It's sad, it's overpitched, it's LTE... ok, great, but did we just watch somebody die? Just a thought.

It`s scary that there are so many ignorant haters.

Correct - It's exactly the way I feel it - Over-pitched on maxed power = Loss or reduced air flow over the fixed wing or rotating wing = STALL. . . . Recovery = Quickly Reduce angle of attack ( stick forward on fix wing ) ( lower collective on rotary wing & cyclic forward to gain forward momentum) . . . Of course, on a "fixed wing" in order to gain forward momentum you will need enough altitude or an engine with some sort of reserve "power boost" system!

The blades aren't stalling....they just aren't producing enough lift as the rrpm decays.

@@simonj126 it's more the engine is stalling, but I understand it to be the engine lacking the force required for that blade pitch. It is an aerodynamic issue like a stall in that the airflow over the foils is directly impacting the condition.

It reminds me of the training with riding motorcycles where one is taught that if the front wheel starts sliding in a turn to increase throttle to transfer weight from the front wheel to the rear wheel. The instinct is to slow down when the front wheel starts sliding.

@@stuarthall3874 Yeah, and grabbing that front brake is another thing riders will instinctively want to do too, and that's going to put you on the ground even quicker. I don't know if I'd respond appropriately in that situation either. The only time I've ever had my front wheel sliding out from under me was because I was having to do an unplanned stop. I had just left a car wash and was approaching an intersection. I thought the guy in front of me was going thru the light, but he changed his mind. Fortunately I wasn't going very fast. I managed to get my feet down and save the bike, but I thought I might have broken my left leg in the process. But I have pretty sturdy bones, thankfully. I couldn't be out breaking my legs in Montana when home is back in Texas, it would've ruined the trip.

@That's_Mr_Ass_To_You It seems like they've become so reliant on the autopilot and a checklist that they've forgotten how to just fly the plane. Another thing I've noticed is they have little to no knowledge about which automated flight controls can stay on, or turn off in the background when the main autopilot function shuts off for whatever reason (kind of like the MCAS debacle on the 737 max, only I don't blame the pilots on that since Boeing didn't bother to tell anyone it existed).

@That's_Mr_Ass_To_You Good example. It's kinda scary.

Reminds me of Air France 447. The pilot flying kept the “nose up” input all the way until crashing, never telling the other pilot what he was doing. Of course, the other pilot never asked either.

well put.

Wow flying a helicopter seems so much harder than than flying a plane. I landed a 45 cub I think that is what I was told my friend was in back seat flying it says take this air craft to those fields never heard another word from him. I ended up getting my shit together just above the corn pulled throttle back and splashed into cornfield old man Peterson had a hear attack no longer with us but 20 minutes before we took off he said I will have you flying my outfit today. He lied I crashed his outfit

At least as fixed wind pilots we have a buffet and a visual on the angle of attack. Doesn't look like much warning signs in a helicopter that you can feel with your body. No stall buzzer either ..

The low rotor RPM and horn would have come on, the manifold pressure would be up to the limit, the nose would want to rotate, there would be a lot of peddle used...there are a lot of indicators you are running out of power but a power check is the best...

@@markhux7217 thank you so much!!!!

yes. lower the collective to reduce the "overpitch" and regain rpm in the main rotor and pitch forward (or left/right/back) to get some airflow and get the disc flying again. the main diff between fixed wing and rotor craft is that pesky torque. once the tail rotor stops working you are pretty much out of options except collective full down, which in this case meant taking a swim

Yeah this guy is awesome, he cares and that's enough for most to learn.

Water isn’t great for ground effect sadly! He would have to lower collective and gain airspeed!

i honestly agree as someone who is learning to become a sport liscense helicopter pilot i really would love a tutorial on how to to escape a situation like this. please get back to us OP.

Thats.old proprietary

Possibly high mountain altitude.

Dana Rainey Thank you.

Perfect and easy to understand explanation.

​@@gratonkuria4783 it is an oversimplification, and in this particular case it does more harm than good, it gives you an illusion you understand everything involved when in fact you don't, there are things one should not dumb down to 1+1=2 The problem with the car is that you're out of the sweet power spot of the engine, you got loads and loads of reserve power, you simply need to access it - drop a gear, increase rpm on the engine and you're fine The problem with the heli is that you're losing altitude, you're already at full power, there is no gear to drop down, the only fix is to lower the tax on the engine - reduce angle of attack of the rotor which also fixes the rotation, because the rotor torque is decreased - doing that however means you're going down even quicker So it is very much NOT like trying to accelerate in 5th gear at low speed, the only car comparison would be that you're trying to overtake someone on a 2lane highway, you got an incoming car on the opposite lane, and the guy you're overtaking is speeding up, and you're already in the low gear to get max acceleration, and that is still not enough to pass the cu** to your right before you run into the car in the opposing lane, thankfully you can slow down and feed behind the cu**, with heli - not so much, the incoming ground will hit you

Make sense, lower power above knock out stage Someone forgot.newton law

@@dapje2002 I may have come off as condescending, but that wasn't the aim like you suggest, and if you had some education in physics along with English grammar, you'd understand the meaning of my comment. I also didn't call anyone names like you did, and you also did nothing to exlain anything, you worthless piece of grammar nazi

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me too i wonder who could loan me a helicopter to try

Not a r22

He wasn't supposed to be flying over water.

"Old man shakes sticks and youngins who make too much noise" You need to ease up man, powersports have every right to enjoy nature as you.

@@TheOwenMajor If trails have been deemed hiking or horse trails only. Or if snowmobiling in certain areas are off limits during hunting season it is reasonable to expect others to fallow the rules. Some of us have a Great deal of time and money invested in going to the mountains for our activities. I wouldn't go to a popular snowmobiling or ATV area and turn it into a live shooting range and say " Ease up Man!" A little common consideration is reasonable. We live in a crowded World. We can all have our time in the backcountry to do our Thing. Grow up and Think of others. The World isn't all about you.

Not a helicopter guy but I think he explained... power was maxed out so you need to apply forward motion to get wind under the wings/rotors to give lift

@@grandenauto3214 not really an explanation. The helicopter took off and hovered in the first place. It only got lighter from then. Unless it had a partial engine failure it would start with sufficient power and only get more and more excess power for hovering. Something else changes that means a helicopter that can take off can't hover.

deSloleye the engine has the same power but there isn’t enough air getting under the wings to keep it in the air, which is why you want to move forward... get more air under the wings and fly out of it.