Overwatch 2 Tiktoks that are ACTUALLY Educational 

Overwatch 2 TikToks? Educational? Have we entered the Twilight Zone?

the sr forgiveness thing should only work with solo Q people

For SR forgiveness -Have it not work if the leaver is in your party (even if he leaves the party mid game) -Have it not work in top 500 or even in gm -If it leads to dogpiling in your weakest link, have it not negate the loss, but reduce SR loss instead so you still got something to lose

“I’m not allowed to right off baby sitting” 😂 iconic

I like the sigma tip about blocking a sniper's line of sight. Space wise, it's the difference between creating a small space for you and your team to huddle around, or completely denying the damage on to you and your team.

Holy crap that Bastion clip at the beginning was me! Never thought someone like you would end up watching it, been a big fan for a few years! Glad you liked it 😁

"I can't write off baby sitting" is absolute fire

"Ball I could teach a squirrel" kills me

Ball has a very low skill floor, but also an extremely high ceiling. It wasnt asking who is hardest to learn, it was asking who is hardest to master, which are two very different questions.

Even in diamond,leading with Bob means he's instantly shredded

Case where Bob dies, Jay3 calling Bob down and making him run off the map

OK so about the sr loss forgiveness. What if the penalty for the leaver (on the alt acc) applies to both or all party members?

To explain the "Blue Lock"comment: Blue Lock is a very popular soccer anime currently airing. The premise of the show is that in order to be the top player in the world, you have to learn how to play for your own ego and goals rather than focusing on team play or being overly-reliant. The protagonist of the show, Isagi, learns how to utilize bad teammates (something the show calls "Devouring") by using those teammates to take enemy attention off of him so that he can make good plays himself and score. That's basically what the vid creator did when "baited" his Rein to act as a distraction for him while he continued killing the enemy team from high ground. The comment making the comparison was still dumb, but hopefully this explains what the "point" of it was.

The dude who said Widows shot should have the last bit be a damage over time is cooking frfr.

With regards to the Tracer/Ana mastery thing, I can absolutely guarantee that what said about Ana can be also applied to Tracer. To be a true master of her you need to cover a lot of bases really well, but you can also particularly in lower ranks be a force to be reckoned with just by existing. Just taking an enemy's attention by pissing around in the backline can create so many openings for wins with zero mechanics since she can abuse her tiny hitbox and lower ranks (typically) lower mechanical skill

Possible solution for the Duo queue is the Duo split the L. If someone in your group leaves the Drop is spread along the group those not linked dont get the problem. Im not sure whether a 5 minute pause is also another idea to float, since Ive been dropped from a game and it was the first time for me, I didnt see how to rejoin at first, I did find it and make it back. But this was after trying to requeue for awhile and it telling me I couldnt because I was doing the wrong thing. I got back 2 minutes into our push, went to win within 30 seconds.

You. I feel called out. My Reinhart feels so much better after a year of watching Flats

TikTok: Ball is challenging. Flats: I could put an hamster in a ball on my keyboard and teach them Ball.

3:00 As someone else said, duos/groups with a leaver also suffer sr loss. But then there's those groups who group up to derank and it'd make it easier for them.

Regarding the "baiting" tiktok, honestly, the comment had a point. He didn't "bait" his teammate. Rather, his tip has more to do with game sense and target priority. When I think about baiting my teammates, I'm trying to use them to either make the enemy waste an ability and/or ult on them so that I can make plays. Like playing as Kiriko and slightly playing off-position away from teammates in the hope that a Rein will try to ult so they can teleport onto and suzu their team. If you're going to "bait" teammates, you're consciously putting said teammates into a disadvantage position in the hopes that the enemy team will do something to them to which you can immediately react to.

its pretty funny how flats says he can teach a squirrel how to play ball, when he doesnt even have a good wrecking ball

I think the solution to the leaver problem is to simply make you lose less sr when you lose and have a leaver

This is the shit I love watching/listening to while I make breakfast. Please keep it up fam.

The solution to the group mentality thing with SR forgiveness is literally to not leave

2:53 First we had the Lucio guy and now Rein irl, I am absolutely losing it

As soon as you started talking my cat was summoned. You summoned him, Flats

9:55 he stopped himself from saying Widow "MILKER"

10:58 That is so good. That honestly would be a great concept for an Ashe skin. Bob as her dad and Ashe as his daughter.

That "Rank means nothing" video couldn't be more true i just hit D1 and my second game in that rank cycle I literally got stomped by a mix of Masters 1 to GM 1 players

I just want to say I love your videos dude

Widow should get a change where 175 damage is instantly delt and the rest comes through in the form of venom from her mine type damage. This would allow some counter play, be interesting for Widow hitting body shots to stack the effect on tanks, and overall be less annoying. She would probably need to have her health increased from the 175 it is now but the idea of widows being able to still one shot each other interests me. You could also adjust her ult and maybe make up the venom damage is increased or ticks faster during it.

Those are really good points for the sr forgiveness bit. Especially the second one.

The sr forgiveness idea will make sr messiahs that leaves for the team

"I just did my taxes... I'll tell you what I am not allowed to write off babysitting... so I'm not coddling your ass." This went so hard.

Halo Infinite’s SR loss is a great way to go about it. If a player disconnects before the “halfway” point the rest of the team losses only a small amount. Now League of Legends has a good solution for the duo situation, if your duo disconnects then BOTH players get hit with the same elo penalty.

On the topic of SR forgiveness and dogpiling the "shit" player to try and get them to leave, none of these issues would even be a thing if the game just prioritized individual performance more then it does. If how much mmr or sr or whatever you lose was more determined by how well or poorly you play in a game, it would result in a lot less of that giving up mentality of "oh well this games already fucked run the next one". Whereas instead there's still a chance you, individually, could pop off and still get something out of it, or at least not lose as much. this would also help to encourage everyone in the game to still try and play there best rather then just fucking around or giving up halfway through since one player is getting diff'd or whatever. Everyone would still have incentive to play there best and care about the game, outside of the slim chance of victory.

didnt know you were in mayhem and NOW you have unlocked ancient relics of memories i had no idea that was u good job

For the SR forgiveness, if it happens they could just make it that you get a draw if someone on your team leaves instead of just nothing.

Next flats video: teaching a squirrel how to play Wrecking Ball

The Sr forgiveness dodging could be countered by making players you queued with before the match aren't forgiven

4:28 they also have a measure for that, they simply take rating away from anyone in the same party as the one who left

2 in 24 hrs! Flats bringing it back

I don't blame the brig. How are you supposed to know that the widow is peeking the spawn door until AFTER you get your skull removed.

That Blue Lock comment was hilarious XD

If I recall correctly, Call Of Duty Modern Warfare II’s SR Forgiveness is nullified if it’s someone in your party that has left, as you’re held responsible for them as well.

That last widow damage being dot was actually an interesting idea, I wonder how that’d pan out Cute af bob and Ashe cosplay too

yeah thanks for understanding what i meant!! appreciate the feature as always!

3:25 they could make it so you don’t loose sr only if your not queued with them, but you take a loss if you’re queued together

Sr forgiveness seems to only cover you for three matches to prevent you from dropping when you reach a new tier

Blue lock is an anime about soccer but the main character keeps thinking everything trhough like he's einstein

3:18 I firmly stand by keeping your SR if your teammate leaves, but only if you’re not currently grouped up with that person. If your team starts to bully you, just leave team chat, and hang out until the end of the match.

the dad and kiddo ❤❤

Ball is difficult as hell, because you need a full blown psychiatric degree to keep your team from melting down the second you pick him.

4:25 i agree that happens, thats why in cod if your in the party with the leaver it still affects your SR.. only if your not playing with them do you not lose SR when they leave

I'm surprised I couldn't find a video of a real hamster playing recking ball

I do agree that Widow is a massive issue, the ability to one shot someone from 9 miles away is incredibly infuriating in any video game, but some of those clips were just a skill issue.

I am the squirrel that needs taught to play ball.

What you said like the duo leaves might work, but when they get to a certain rank, theyre not gonna win games, if they dont have the skill

Feel better soon flats ❤

in League of Legends there is "loss mitigation" where if someone leaves the game you only lose -3 or so LP (league equivilant of SR.) but they have to have been gone for a substantial amount of time, like if they left with only 1-2 minutes left you probably won't and if you died a lot you might still lose a good amount. as far as im aware if you are partied with the leaver you don't get the loss mitigation but you don't get the penalty where you'll gain less your next 3 games.

It's so funny seeing educational shit that's been the same tips for the last several years

That ash b.o.b ash was so wholesome

Idk what tax3s have to do with stupidity but I here for it

If someone leaves the match and the player does not come back on 5 minutes, the match is anulated and you can go out without repercussions, the leaver is sent to a separate ranked Q with just quitters and reported players, and he has to win 10 matches to get to the regular open Q again, if he leaves or is reported again , another 10 wins... thats true EloHell , thats the dream.

To fix the boosting issue of not losing SR if someone leaves a match could be if you're In a group you give anyone in the group gets the SR penalty then the person who left gets the potential timeout penalty

Widow in havanna? And pockets? Doomfist's burst damage solves the problem

As for Sr forgiveness, someone could also ddos their teammates to avoid a lose.

SR forgiveness can just make it so if you're in a group and your friend leaves the game early the whole group still loses SR, but the randoms will be spared.

that sigma one just feels like youre gonna tip everyone off that youre about to flux

So just make it so if your teammate from your party that you queue up with leaves, you lose sr aswell.

The babysitting tax argument is golden 😂

An easy SR forgiveness system would be to not count the loss if your team was in the lead when the leaver left (obvious how on Point and Push maps, check for progress by time on Payload maps). There's no benefit to leaving if your team is in the lead, so it can't be abused. The most frustrating games are when you are winning and then someone leaves with 2-3 minutes left and you just slowly lose all of that lead. Still give the other team a win as their "lucky game", but don't count it as a lose if you were winning all the way until someone left. If we're already getting rolled, and someone leaves I don't care that much, it just ends quicker. But when it's obvious that we were going to win until someone DC'd it's incredibly frustrating, especially when it happens 3-4 games per night because of Blizzard's Pentium II servers.

Bastion has two tips with mei ult actually use them together to cover so much space or get a multi kill or secure an objective

Easy way to fix the boosting leaver just make it so anyone in the leavers squad looses Sr too

Omnic post is amazing!

4:18 Riot actually has a couple solutions for this exact problem. 1. You can’t duo past diamond. 2. You don’t get LP protection if the player that left is your duo. There could still be some situations where GM friends will find eachother by chance and take one for the team, but that’s not a reliable or super exploitable strategy.

To solve the boosting problem just make it so if someone if is in your group and they leave then your rank is still effected

I think a decent counter to exploiting the SR-Forgiveness is monitoring the amount of leaves in a group, so for example. If person A (being boosted) is in a group that with person B (on multiple accounts), and lets call that group 'Group A', if group A is responsible for leaving a lot of matches then the group gets a penalty (so even if Person B goes on multiple accounts it won't matter because it's a group penalty), meaning that Person A loses SR for being part of Group A, which is responsible for a large number of abandons, so the way to try exploit that is not queueing up together and hoping to get with eachother, but that'd be unlikely, meaning Person A has to play a legitimate match or take an SR penalty, forcing them to play legitimately

With the Sr forgiveness I think it would work if the person that leave is never been on your freinds list or not currently to prevent this

12:53 *sad ball main noises*

Alright hear me out on this one - here's my hot take on how to rework Widow into plausible state. 1. Remove charge mechanic on her scoped shots and give it a fixed damage number. Damage should be around 160-190 (I think 175 is ideal and I'll explain why) and this does 2 main things: a) it enables her to work with the team instead of being this standalone killing machine because now she either needs to callout targets that she hits so the team can capitalize on the damage OR she has to prioritize targets that are already damaged by their team. b) if the damage is set to 175 she can now oneshot only Tracer and Widowmaker w/o any influence to her damage output (Zen's discord/Mercy's damage boost/Baptiste's matrix). This leaves sniper duels as a viable option and enables even more teamwork be it a Mercy pocket or comboing with Zen/Bap. 2. Her ult is being reworked into something actually fun/dangerous. Instead of giving the wallhack to the entire team for a short period of time it instead gives back Widow the ability to charge her shots (I think charged shot damage can be left as it is right now). In addition to that: any target that is hit by widow is now revealed to her teammates (if it survives) for a short time (similar to how Sombra's hack reveals hacked targets). But when the Widow is scoped in and fully charged her rifle now emits a laser pointing at where she's aiming (this only applies to her ultimate and gives visual indication of how dangerous she is similar to Sojourn's charged railgun).

Ever since I realized that you could use his grenade for mobility I've been using it to escape other bastion ults

Flats, they said master, ball is easy to pick up but hard to master

the sr forgiveness thing could just implement valorants system. If someone in the group leaves the val game and you guys remake for instance you all take a penalty so whether five stack or duo'ed simple fix should be obvi tbh

Wii music is top tier!

I feel like SR forgiveness can definitely work if Blizzard implements penalties for players that are queued with or on some kind of friends list with the person who leaves

Blue lock is a new soccer anime all about being selfish and having an ego to win soccer, I recommend it. He’s talking about how the soldier didn’t go down to help and stayed high ground (kinda dumb comparison if you ask me)

I suggested a half-DoT Widow shot rework on a previous video and seeing him agree with a similar idea made me feel kinda proud of my idea lol

is ram actually a good counter to zarya? i feel like i get rolled everytime i go against her, but maybe that’s because i started playing at the start of season 2 of ow2 and i don’t have enough matchup experience

YEEEEEES it's been too long since we had a reacting to tiktoks AND I saw this j before I'm abt to sit down to eat

What? 15 minutes already. Damn this video went down smoothly. I wanted more.

splatoon did the sr forgiveness thing right. if you're in a stack and any of the members of your stack leave, you are still punished for losing the game. however, someone outside of your stack leaves, no harm no foul.

12:52 flats no the pilot is literally a hamster of course a squirrel can learn how to pilot it smh

The thing about the sr forgiveness is it only affects those that were randomly put into the game. If you were teamed up with the leaver you would get penalized too which i consider to be fair

12:53 had the opportunity to say you could teach a hamster to play ball and missed it. sad

I love the idea of the team not losing Sr for someone leaving because I played today and I played 8 games and 3 had leavers mid game

4:18 than make it people who leave mid game cant party up for the next 5 matches Or If a party member leaves the whole party still gets sr loss but the random teammates dont

On that last one, what you are saying seems more aligned with baiting the enemy rather than your team

give widow a dot that finishes enemies off instead of the one shot kill. then if she hits someone out of position or without a healer nearby same effect and you have counterplay of healing yourself. give it a bit more damage than it currently has with this dot so the supports have to actively heal them. her character is based off a venemous spider and she only has one thing in her kit that is actually reminiscent of the spider and its a low damage basic sniper trap. the venom is what kills people not the bite of the spider (although the black widow only kills 4-8 people per year) they don't kill you instantly. they are actually pretty chill in their space if you respect them. maybe give the dot to her secondary fire as well to a lesser extent (or let each instance increase the duration of the poison) but that way when she gets run down she can spray and then use her escape and if she hit them enough times they succumb to the poison she injected them with.

They should make sr forgiveness but if youre grouped up with the guy who left you lose sr aswell. That way it doesn’t encourage the loss cheesing