Overwatch 2 Tiktoks that show me things I never knew 

"Do you know what snipers do? They one shot." Ana: Am I a joke to you?

I swear to God Ball players are playing a completely different game from the rest of us.

I swear they are testing the waters with widow in the April update

Just give her a sight line like Torb’s turret

“You can’t take her one shot because her one shot is the focus of her character” essentially which is the problem with her

The April Fools change for Widow is SO smart, I swear they are literally testing some things with it. The fact that it works so that the if you hit a crit hit, you will do a burst of damage and then the rest of the damage will be poison, it will still be a total of 300 damage, and it will force people to either run for a health pack or supports and hang on for dear life 😂🤣. It will still kill you if you’re not quick enough to react, and your supports may have to invest their healing on you for a while, but at least you will have a chance to live through it and it won’t be as oppressive, it will still be DECENT, maybe good even, but not as oppressive as the current 1 shot is. It also…makes sense…? for Widow’s character to use venom shots…I mean..spider theme 🕷️. I think it’s a really clever change, and I honestly think they’re cooking. 👀 Also I just finished a game and Dva’s ult voice line is saying sorry to her mechanic (can’t remember his name) because well..you know…he’s her mechanic. But isn’t this weird? Hhmmm, they could’ve given her a different voice line like “Time to blow up.” or something, but they decided to make a reference to another character…one who happens to be a mechanic and is also a male….if you know the hero release pattern than you know. Could he be the new support? 🫢😳

Ive always suggested they redesign her venom mine to be incorporated with her rifle, like give her a minor wall hack to targets affected with the mine, and her 1 tap is only possible to affected targets, then also adjust the mine to be more intuitive to use and combo for her. so while she can still do decent damage without the mine debuff strategically placing the mine to catch targets makes her more deadly covering chokes etc.

so i was thinking about the widow problem. it became a problem when we lost 1 tank and the "solution" is to go deal with her which is annoying because she is sitting 300 miles away from the fight. so a possible solution could be giving us more ways to take away her line of sight, maybe a smoke grenade? she gets countered but not nerfed, everyone is happy. I also like the april fools change they have for her. basically poison on crit to give the victim time to get healed and avoid elimination, sure it nerfs widow against squishies but depending on how much dmg the poison does it could buff her against tanks.

I don't remember the origin of this idea, but taking away her 1 shot damage in favor of poison damage that scales from 10-50 damage based on charge, linearly. To make her still viable, you could make this scaling poison occur over the same like 1/2/3 second period so you aren't punished for higher charge. Takes away a 1 shot in a higher lobby with good healers depending on poison ttk but you can punish over extended enemies and just bad players

When the only real answer to widowmaker on havana circuit and jtown is to mirror widow that's when you know she's too good.

POV: necros after flats says he isn’t viable

Do you think that increasing the amount of ammo her M2 consumes could be a good balance for Widow? Like make it consume 7 bullets, now you would only be able to shoot 6 shots before she'd need to reload

I still like the last bit of her damage being dot. That was a cool idea.

All they have to do is make it so you can only one shot with Widow at 100% charge rather than the current 60% that allows for such fast multikills from players like Kenzo

Bold move to acknowledge your bias and then say "I don't care"

0:45 literally just do what THE CHEF said. make widows scoped in shot have a laser so you can reveal positioning, its a good nerf enough and will help teach better positioning more than anything

I was thinking for a widow change is to have an internal headshit cooldown for scoped shots so the widow has to wait maybe 0.5 seconds after a full charge after headshotting before she can hit another one. Correct me if the numbers are off but you understand the concept. Just make it harder for her to reliably wipe an entire team. This also makes tracer rounds more of a detriment since the enemy will have more time to shoot the widow.

Her whole thing is “one shot one kill” they won’t take her one shot away. Just like they won’t take away mercy’s revive because her whole thing is heros never die

I've been suggesting the april fools changes for Widow since launch because it just makes so much more sense

You can suzu the ground when sigma does his ult but it's very hard to time. I've done it in gun game no cooldown 1v1 with my buddy.

8:42 LOL my dumb little TikTok got featured in a Flats video... I love this series! I'm very surprised my Doom gameplay got let off the hook without being roasted hahah

12:07 junkerqueen mains when they're tired of widowmaker

I’m not too sure how well that MMR thing on QP works. I’m Masters in Support, but I’ve always played with a variety of people. I’ve had actual Bronze/Silver players and turn around the next game to get Diamond. I had a game recently when I ran into Eskay.

I'm not an expert but the only thing I would do to balance out Widow would be to increase her weapon load, she can often eliminate players in a very short time if she has good aim, and would compensate for the nerf by giving a "buff" in one of her abilities like increasing the mine explosion radius or the hook speed (sorry for my English I'm still learning)

Double Shields helped with those one shots alot lol.

I dont think the problem is Widow, I think it's the map pool

Ok so am idea I just had for a widow rework, what if you remove the one shot but give her a personal “discord orb.” Hear me out, ideally the “discord orb” would only effect the damage of the widow, knock you out of your scope on use, but have a much longer range. The ability would replace the mine. The player that has the orb on them would know receive notification that they are marked and the widow would still be able to one shot a marked target with a fully charged shot. The fact that marking a target knocks her out of scope means that there is time for the enemy to run or juke the shot before her next shot is charged. This ultimately increases the time to kill and reduces frustration for all skill levels while maintaining the “one shot, one kill sniper fantasy” probably would be a bit weaker but that’s not necessarily a bad thing.

How to climb with Genji in three steps: One, find a wall Two, hold W Three, hold space

Flats not knowing about their being two different ways to spell prey in the genji one

Ik this is a stretch. But one way to re-work widow is to change her damage into a slow poison tick as part of her shots. Dealing 80+40 poison at max ramp, or 160+80 poison on headshot. The poison could tick at 30hp/s. So after a headshot, supports get a 1.5s reaction window to attempt to save their squishy.

Damn Junkerqueen is broken. For the low, low cost of wasting your ult and leaving your team without a tank, you can reposition yourself once.

Imo the most annoying thing about window maker is expecting to have a fun 1 on 1 match but instead you can only play cover or boom back to the spawn room

I think the thing to make her balanced is make her more of a way to secure off flank routes by giving her much more trap reliant kit by giving her only 1 bullet in the chamber (remove the smg mode) and make the reload longer ut make it also not require a charge up BUT there is a laser sight if you aim down. (the enemy can see it) maybe make her have a different ult like a snare trap thats a more deadly version of junkrats (making you see the enemies position if nearby the trap and if caught in it.) Keep the one shot, but make it slower and give her tracers hp (tracer is hard to kill because of her amazing survivability and horizontal movement, widow relies on a defensive playstyle and therefore while okay on offense because of the one shot, you'd mostly want her as a way to keep flankers in check.)

If quickplay had MMR I wouldn't be playing against Masters and GMs.

"Quick play has MMR" as i load into a qp game as my bronze dps and am playing against Warn and Valentine.

Genji pops dragon in back line my team panics me turns around no matter what role and roll him

Ball techs are the new doomfist rollouts xD

I'm relieved by flats identifying apex shenanigans by the scroll, all ow players think I'm crazy, but I just play apex on m and k

The best thing they can do is do damage drop off by 5 depending on how far you are with widow, probably a dumb idea but I dunno

That kiriko tips guy is cooking

The ball tech on kings roe just looks like a wall jump...

When flats was complaining about the cree high noon in front of df I think he was just using it to reload

Hi! Flats your awesome keep being you :)

Sniper glare, visible laser when aiming, there are options to nerf her but not destroy her

Junkrat is the actual sniper in OW2

It's always fun when you see "What's your OW2 Hot Take?" with that blonde guy. Also no, we will not stop talking about Widows One Shot. I'm not saying to take away the one shot, just make it so that the other team can react to it better and not basically be required to Counter Widow.

Widowmaker should chunk your healthbar and then have a poisoned effect to finish off the health and do light buffs to the rest of the kit, though I don't know how good this change would be, but at least healers can stop their team from dying instantly.

Can you make a seasonal match-up guide for tanks?

i think they should give a torb turret laser once widows scope goes past 50% charge.

Lmao if there's a kiriko on the other team thats the optimal way to use JQ ult

Bro if I spectate a kill cam and see some weirdo ping pinging on rooftops before I get slammed imma lose it.

I understand that people on lower ranks wont understand this but I swear Reinhardt is the best doom counter. The amount of times I play in GM and get pinned by ridnhardt and just die. Especially since you get left with 200 hp or less you can’t even dive in if there is a widow or smth that needs to die.

I think people would feel better about Widow if there was a support that could deny her oneshot. Not all the time, of course, but enough to make her job more difficult. Maybe a cooldown that gives each ally 15 overhealth and 30% damage reduction while the overhealth lasts, which is just enough to let a squishy survive a headshot with 5 HP but is easily removed with chip damage. It would also help against the likes of Junkrat, Hanzo and Pharah.

Widow should get a change where 175 damage is instantly delt and the rest comes through in the form of venom like her venom mine type damage. This would allow some counter play by supports to save you, be interesting for Widow hitting body shots to stack the effect on tanks, and overall be less annoying. She would probably need to have her health increased from the 175 it is now but the idea of widows being able to still one shot each other interests me. You could also adjust her ult and make up the venom damage is increased or ticks faster during it. From there change venom mine into a trip wire sensor that she has 2 of so she can be helpful to track flankers (but don't reveal the flanker position just alert that he tripwire has been activated).

That’s not the ping pong that’s the pinball

The thing I occasionally hear about Widow (and possibly the best reason she needs some change) is how she can do a tanks job better than they can, especially in a 5v5. Denying and taking areas is what a tank does, and Widow can clear and keep massive areas open for her team better than a Winston can while getting kills faster as well. Wanna keep the 1-shot? Reduce the range severely so that she needs to get much closer to get that headshot kill. That's like the only possible way I can see her keep her core but also not be broken in the right hands/Masters+.

for widow, make it so it takes 1 full second before it starts charging for fewer opportunities to 1-shot

hi flats, love your content 😁

ball players are literally just in their own world and it works

Now I feel bad for the rest of my team after I suzu the Orisa tanking the Bob

A full rework is probably the only way to solve the problem

i suggest to lengthen the charge for widow to oneshot so that everyshot is more important to click heads

i think we need like a patch test mode in the arcade where players can test in real games changes they are looking at without blizz committing to them, then they could go wild with reworks and such and see if something like a widow whos about gathering intel is viable. say widow's sniper now wallhacks an enemy for 5 seconds but only deals like 75 body damage with increased fire rate and her SMG does better damage and marks enemies through walls for 0.5 seconds per bullet hit on the enemy, for example. then make her mine be able to be stuck to an enemy who takes damage and exudes like a 3 meter field where enemies in that field take small damage (only while in the field) and all of them are wallhacked while in the field, just as an example, buff her HP to 200, make her ult like 3-5 seconds longer and she might be viable, might be useless, but we cant really know unless we test massive changes like this to some characters that realistically need full reworks. a lot of characters in OW2 were decently balanced in OW1, but things have shifted a lot in OW2 and I think so many things like discord orb, one shots in general, mercy damage boost, or weaker characters like sym just need to be completely reevaluated. they did it with doom and it worked pretty well, so id like to see that with some more heroes now.

Couldnt it be like a reload high noon

8:20 "Ball Players are somethin else." Flats in another video "i could teach a squirrel to play ball." Make up ur mind flats

Since everyone else has thrown out some ideas, let's say they keep the one shot for widow, but make it an ability. Like her smg keeps the same damage, but allow her to ads with the smg so she isn't totally useless without the ability, and then when she activates the ability she loads like 3-5 rounds of her sniper. The biggest issue with the one shot is just map design and the sightlines she can hold forever. Just make it so she only gets a few shots so you can then punish her after. The ability won't go on cool down until she shoots all of the sniper shots. Then she could unload them early to go back to smg mode and maybe the cool down gets reduced for how many shots you unload.

"The one thing that makes her widow" aka what makes her hated

"You might as well delete her from the game" Don't threaten me with a good time!

I remember 8 second grapple cooldown, it was so hard to kill widow cuz she just spooder mans away

"What do snipers do? They one shot" Paladins Snipers: "Y-yeah, we definitely do" (i get that the hp pools of the two games are vastly different but still)

Would maybe a headshot charge work like after a few headshots then you could have a one-shot headshot bullet a bit like soljurns ability but obviously not as broken

I honestly believe that widow would be just fine if you just decreased the charge rate of her gun. That way she actually has to keep the scope-in movement de-buff for longer before she can get a lethal shot. This would mean she wouldn't be shooting as quickly and there would be some more counter play.

They should make her headshot deal less damage and give her a blind animation like so we feel what Ana felt lol

Flats talking about someone stealing content as he is reacting to TikToks

The april fool's update wasn't actually bad, Make it to where it's still a good 1shot but it takes a few seconds so your heals can react

Ok, don't get me wrong, the one shot is annoying, but they can't take it away because then she'd actually be useless.

Make widow swing like spiderman with 2-3 charges. Give her a lesser version of Solider's gun, and her ultimate enables the sniper. Makes her an up close hero until you have your ultimate then you can go halfway across the map then return when it's over.

Grap to like 15scd and HP to 125. Change her Venom to a Explorer witch she can throw and marks and enemy. First enemy marked take extra damage. Damage fall off on his shots

I still think they should just make Widow super squishy, like 100 maybe 125 health. That way she is more easily contested and cant just be a super menace.

People complaining about Widow and Sombra when Zen exists.

I think the true best change for widow would be make her have to charge up her shot like a fusion rifle from Destiny. like while aiming youd have to charge it up and then it'd fire not just aiming and then firing at the right moment

Widow should honestly be the only one that can one shot

On WidowMaker, Why don’t they make it take longer for the one shot charge to be full? Like increase the time by ~10 seconds. This would reduce the potential she can one shot if they are a bad sniper, but also won’t remove her key feature

know how you fix widow in ow? Simple, you add a sway to her scope in. Then you add a stabilizer on cooldown (like other snipers in other games, shift to "hold breath"). The sway would range from heavy to light depending on how still you have been, which would 100 percent change how widow is played. You wanna go for those sweet 360 Hookshots? You are gonna need alotta luck. But, her 1 shot would remain in the game.

The junkerqueen clip... That dude looks like he belongs in one of the really generic ads that pop up on RU-vid.

As hanzo I headshot someone with ping arrow and was not trying to

EZ widow fix: players want to keep her one-shot? she gets one-shot'd in return. Put her health down to 125 or even lower, 100.

6:55 does he know that sooooo many Lucio's have scroll wheel bound to jump lol, there's like 3 techs it can be used for and one that is used alllllll the time.

Tbh if they gave widow that visible laser sight from the Olympus game mode it would get rid of those scenarios where she’s 100 miles away and you have 0 way of knowing you’re going to die by leaving spawn, could make it be thicker based on her charge so there’s some actual counterplay to her brainless afk playstyle

Ngl, I think a widow balance change could be like this: widow could have like 3/4th or half if her OG damage, and a faster charge rate, and a slightly lower grapple cd. You could also change the mine to a motion sensor like Hanso or just not change it at all

Did someone say Widowmaker hair strangling? 👀👀

I love flats

I'm not sure if you can ever truly make a sniper not be at least a bit of a problem. By nature a sniper just existing makes them a threat that you have to play around, even if the person playing them isn't very great. At least dive characters you can play around by just watching your positioning, but a sniper relies on the map layout actually giving you cover or just having a better sniper than they do on your team.

it's become the same everywhere, ppl be giving tips and talking about balancing and stuff but you'll rarely see a rank and they'll always act like they aren't fckn plat

Yooo what if they add a visible laser to widows scope so everyone can see that widow is about to shoot. (Basically like the Splatoon chargers)

8:50 best tank matchup is by far sigma, you can cancel all of his abilities except for shield. Worst matchup is ramattra, no abilities to cancel and vortex is good at countering, easy to punish doom. Close second would be Zarya. Orisa is not a bad matchup and Winston is definitely not the best matchup.

The map pool is super widow

in season 3 i started playing doom A LOT.. it was a lot of fun and i really like this character even tho it is hard to master him.. no tank ever was a real threat to me when i played with their backline.. either they had a Really good tank that kept me off doing so or they just switched Ana, Zen or Sombra when they wanted to defeat me.. that’s the real doom shutdown.. don’t know what this guy is talking about with orisa she is easy to ignore and doomfists movement can just disengage from her..? idk

Junker Queen ult rollouts remind me of TF2's demoknight trimping. I'd wager it's the same mechanics.

Genji is an Otaku some of his voice lines being tatakae is great and the Kiriko change feels extremely op being able to TP from spawn to the point is broken and Nap being able to jump infinitely