@@RainbowFlowerCrowIt’s a lot like special education. The majority of educators in the field are in it because they have their own children, siblings, cousins, nieces/nephews, or grew up with neighbors who are disabled, and they’ve witnessed the very serious pitfalls in special education and went into the job passionate to make a difference, and willing to put in the hard work. And then there’s the people who got into the field thinking it would be an easy paycheck. I can always sniff them out, and will do everything in my power to keep my children away from them, nothing is worth the potentially irreparable damage that can be caused by allowing people who really don’t care at all be responsible for vulnerable children and animals. It’s very much the same with people who are drawn to work with animals. Most love animals, most are passionate about it and willing to put in the work because they actually care for animals well being- but there’s always going to be some who foolishly think working with animals is a way to make easy money, and those people can go to hell.
Plus, she's so proud of being able to control her day care dogs, but she thinks yelling at dogs is the way to train/control them. She's ignorant about this, and she's ignorant about debarking, and she's apparently made no attempt to take even the most basic steps to educate herself-- for the sake of her occupation, the day care dogs and customers, or her own dogs. She seems to be an educated, or at the very least, literate, woman, why hasn't she read a book/done some research? She seems not to have even googled the basics. Based on her "I can't be kicked out of my ("her?" -- not "our?" Right up there with "I"--- not we-- "just got a new couch," and "I'll TELL Max"-- not ask him-- "to bring the dogs here" ) apartment, so I have to do something"-- i.e., debark her dogs-- I'm glad they don't have a colicky baby; I can just see her snipping the baby's vocal chords because nothing else stops the crying, and she "can't get kicked out of her apartment." Topping it all off, for me, is her statement, "I don't have time for dogs that disrupt the energy," a remark with so little understanding of, among other things, the human's role/responsibility in interacting with dogs, that it would be bizarre coming from anyone, let alone someone whose job is caring for dogs.
Tamara seems more like she enjoys dogs in _theory._ Like she loves the cuteness and unconditional love they give and the fact she can train them, but _nothing else about them._ She's a _control freak_ who _shouldn't_ be allowed to own dogs.
Yeah... "NO BARKING, NO BARKING!" fancy paying good money for someone to yell at all the dogs all day. When you've got a bunch of dogs together they are undoubtedly going to bark that's how they communicate! She seems totally clueless about dog behaviour let alone how to treat them.
She can’t train an ant let’s be honest 🤦♀️ If she could she wouldn’t need professional help from Victoria period. She doesn’t need to own dogs let alone all animals including sea monkeys (shrimp) for all I care. I can’t stand to hear or see this woman bc she’s an abuser to animals.
People don’t see you behind closed doors. But if they have any brains they eventually see how their dogs behavior changes when they spend time with criminal people like this. Doggy daycare has no business being in someone’s apartment.
Exactly! When they see this episode they definitely won’t be leaving their dogs there again most likely. This woman is terrible with animals, clearly uneducated & should not be running a doggie daycare & ruining other people’s training. What idiots these people are.
The important thing is she reached out and asked for help and she got it. It takes time to train yourself into train the dogs. I think she's doing good. Much better than she was.
Yeah I saw her lose it with a couple of them at the beginning. She doesn't have the right temperament to be working with other people's dog's let alone her own.
@@TakeTheRide That wasn't the point of what was said. The concern was her breaking the training of the people's dogs she is watching with her behavior around them. She physically swatted one of the dogs in the start of the video. That's not her dog to be doing that and you shouldn't lay hands on your dog either. The worry is she is undoing her clients dog's training.
And what do you think of people who declaw their cats? I am horrified that so-called veterinarians do those things to animals, they should lose their license permanently.
@@Juliafloit's an atrocious procedure but it isn't vivisection. Frankly I think vivisection has more merits than so-called "debarking"-at least there's the possibility to learn something valuable from vivisection :/
@@CarolineismightyfineI don’t know, I feel like this show compared to the millions that are out there is less likely to he staged due to the fact that dog training is a process that everyone can very easily go through if they have a rowdy dog. It’s also more made for educational purposes alongside entertainment and Victoria seems to be genuine in true in her methods. Suffice to say that there may or may not be some staged *parts* but I doubt there’s very many at all and if there is, they’re usually indicated to be part of the training. For example: Having someone ring the doorbell repeatedly or have someone walk their dog parallel to the other. I’d likely say that what you stated first is the more potential outcome. She had enough business flow to keep afloat but the show also made a point to prove that her ideas were heavily misguided and dangerously ignorant, allowing her room to grow and become a better caretaker. She was willing to learn and I think people are more willing to forgive if they know a person is doing their best to do things the right way
It does make me wonder when previous episode people have blamed being Italian on their yelling and hyper behaviour and yet here's an actual Italian owner who's not the 1 yelling. Finally.
i remember when i was like 12 my mom had bought a Pappion from someone and the breeder had her vocal cords cut ( long before we got her) but i remember her trying to bark and it was like a mouse sneezing... I can remember feeling so bad for her and how horrible that was. even at 12 I knew this was a horrible evil thing to do to a dog. I still feel that way. thank you victoria for saying it should be illegal because it should along with tail docking and cutting ears.
Ear cropping and tail docking at least has some use for LGDs to prevent serious injury, although I agree it should be banned for dogs that are just pets. Debarking though has zero reason to exist, I'm shocked it's not illegal everywhere
@@mmmbepis8643not to mention, it’d be counterproductive to a working dog. It’s got no true justification to use other than “I don’t want this living being to have the right to speak.”
@@princess_thanos Actually, there's no reason for licence to be capitalised there, licence is spelled correctly in non-U.S. English, and getting on people's cases on youtube for poor spelling and/or grammar is ignorant because it ignores people who have extenuating circumstances like people speaking English as an additional language (second, third, etc.) or people with dyslexia and learning disabilities.
I thought I was the only one who does the "thank you" when the dog barks at the door to acknowledge what they've told me. My housemates don't do it so they've all but untrained my dog from getting quiet from this command.
@cassandrakemara8755 yep, and I will be getting a puppy within the next 2 years. I will be not be holding back on verbal filters with housemates if they cause issues during that time. They've lived with my dog long enough that the simple things shouldn't be a problem anymore (even though they still are).
I'm so glad they were BOTH willing to listen and learn. I think their lives, the humans and the dogs, will be much happier if they follow through with what they've learned from Victoria. ❤
I read the comments before the end of the show, and there was lots of hate for her so I thought it was going to end bad. BUT she worked hard for her dog’s happiness in the end. Sometimes hard work pays off, and she should be super proud of herself for following through. The last scene with her enjoying the dogs and them enjoying her made me smile. Well done!
Dogs behaving badly or loudly is really people not having a clue. Thank you, Victoria, for showing us and teaching us valuable lessons again and again💐
The fact that they tried to yell back at the person who was upset that these rats tried to bite her dog, you don’t get to yell back when your dogs are the problem and not the passerby’s dog.
For anyone reading this: I know that dog training can be difficult sometimes, but you're doing great. Keep up the good work, and your dog (and your own sanity) will thank you for it! ❤️💕
It's like not wanting to have a mud hole in the garden but getting 2 pigs.. Makes no sense. 😂 Every dog barks but small breeds are well known for being yappy 😂
If you don't want the barking, don't get a dog period. That's just how they communicate. Of course, the level of barking is dependent on the personality of the dog, I've had a dog that was so quiet that I have been accused of debarking him. But it's just like how you shouldn't have a baby then get mad when it cries
Y’know, despite having the issues with the dogs Max and Tamara seem like a really good couple, they had disagreements for sure but they were never toxic towards each other, I’ve seen tons of couples on this show have very angry arguments with each other over the dogs or chew each other out over their disagreements, but Max and Tamara never really did, when they did express their disagreements it always seems to be in a calm, even kinda playful way, and to me that’s how you know they have a good relationship, because a couple that can express these things without actually getting toxic towards each other has a really healthy relationship
Wait... It SHOULD BE illegal? Means: Right now it is legal in the USA to debark your dog? It's the first time I have ever heard of something cruel like that. But then agian it's humans so I'm not really suprised.
The US is one of the few countries in which debarking and declawing cats is legal (not all states) completely (and rightly) illegal here in the UK and Western Europe.
Why declawing cats? I just feel like it’s a different issue. If it’s like declawing them leaves them in pain, sure that’s a reason but I feel like the 2 issues are apples and oranges.
@@SupHapCak because both are about mutilating another living creature for human convenience! Also how would we know if debarking leaves a dog in pain and distress - it's ability to communicate to us has been destroyed!
@@littlesparrowwitch That’s a very good point. The dog can no longer do ANYTHING to express any amount of pain, seeing as they can no longer bark or even WHIMPER. Poor babies. I’d never in my life debark a dog or declaw a cat. People who encourage that are horrendous, imo.
@@SupHapCak when you declaw a cat you are amputating a joint in their paws. It's like if a little kid had their fingertips cut off because they were scratching. Cats can get their nails clipped just like humans.
It feels like the lady only cares about her self she keeps saying "The dogs barking could get me evicted", "It's a liability issue for me". If she is so worried that her dog is causing her a possible liability issue she should have trained them properly sooner. She never said "I'm worried she'll get hurt" or "I worry they get stressed out" she never says anything that communicates to me that she really cares about her dogs.
That's a very good observation. She never once said "I'm worried they'll hurt another dog" either - it's only ever in combination with "that's a liability issue for me" - in other words, she only worries about the legal troubles of them biting another dog and not what it would mean for the other dog. Just like with debarking - "it's less invasive than spaying or neutering": Yes, less invasive from a SURGICAL perspective, but my god, infinitely more invasive from a psychological perspective. Yet, that never crossed her mind. She looks at dogs (all dogs probably) like they are little more than objects. I find it hard to believe she truly likes the daycare dogs either, which is evidenced by her slapping a scared dog at the beginning. She likes them when they're well behaved and happy, but not at any other time.
Why would anyone want to sever a dog's vocal chords?! I mean I have a dog that can annoy you when he barks, but I would never do that to him! That is cruel and inhumane!😢
@@sodapopjones260What you mean is you don't want to listen to dogs barking. I don't want to listen to kids screaming and screeching, so can I advocate for their vocal cords to be cut?
@@littlesparrowwitch im not the only one who doesn't want to listen to dogs barking, they wouldn't have debarking surgery or shock collars if only one person had a problem with it. You can advocate for anything you like, but humans have rights and dogs don't have the same ones. Humans need their vocal cords to function in society, not having them is a legitimate disability. The overwhelming majority of dogs serve no function beyond the emotional needs of their owners and the sound they produce is equally functionless and a downright nusience.
People are so rude in the comments. This owner clearly learned how to better take care of her dogs. She was open to learning and she did. That's one of the best qualities a human can have.
Damn rights I am rude about anyone who gets into the doggy day care business because it is an easy way to make money while mistreating the dogs in her care.
Not her, her neighbours, can't handle the barking. I wouldn't be a fan of it either. No, I much prefer larger dogs like my own Labrador who’s hardly ever barked in 12.5 years. He communicates by moving around a lot, pacing, zoomies, tapdancing, bouncing, when he was younger, he would gallop rather than run during play. He also communicates and gets attention by shaking his head several times, facial expressions, body language, moving towards or away from things whether he wants them or not, for example, the door if he wants outside, the kitchen if he wants food or drink. he'll lie right underneath anybody's legs if he wants human company. He is the strangest dog I've ever met, let alone been the owner, for all of the above reasons.
I'm on both side of this. I work at a dog daycare- when Im running the big dog section I allow barking but not excessively. Keeping them relatively quiet also keeps them so so much calmer. Same with my own dogs- they bark and I tell them they're good boys but that's enough and they will stay quiet until they think they need to alert me again.
This lady has no patience at all with these dogs. I wonder if the owners that drop the dogs off know she is not cut out as an owner of a doggie day care.
My dog is such a good boy. He's obedient, walks like a perfect gentleman, off leash trained, doesn't make a peep at other animals or people on a walk. However indoors He's a nuisance barker. He literally never shuts his yapper for attention. It drives us bananas.
Okay so if i had a baby who kept crying should i cut their vocal cords off? This is that situation but in a different way. Cutting vocal cords should be illegal.
I understand if she means she bought it with all of her money, or if it was a present for herself, but otherwise it’s a WE bought for sure. My grandfather rarely calls the couch he paid for (it was a gift for my grandmother as it’s her spot in the living room, and picked out by her) his couch. He mainly says my grandmother’s couch, or occasionally ‘ours.’ He only says it’s his if he’s joking, and mentioning it’s because he bought it for his wife. Never says it about her birthday or Christmas purses, though.
I wish this worked for my neighbor's dogs. Im sitting outside with mine to let them relieve themselves. My 4 are quietly minding their own business, but I'm surrounded by other dogs barking at everything.
The barking is part of working/having a doggy daycare although not allowing them to bark excessively is best because an excessive barker stresses out the rest of the pack
I'm not as upset about this couple like other dog owners because they generally love their dogs and they want the best for them and you see they do get discourage when their dogs are misbehaving because they know their dogs isn't happy and they want to fix that. People make mistakes, they made mistakes but their mistakes isn't as bad as other pet owners behaviors towards their dogs is and after the owners saw how to treat their dogs, they change their ways quickly. That is a good owner.
Tbf I own a daycare and my dogs don’t always need to come. I’m at work and sometimes they can be distracting, not to mention I don’t want to show favoritism. I don’t think that in itself is a red flag.
What in the world? How do these people not realize their dogs need to be on a different leash ....two SEPARATE 6ft leads not a retractable leash that they are both connected to. I swear people have NO common sense these days. Also you need to hold your dogs back and not let them go up to whoever they want!
Pretty sure if they realized what was wrong, how to stop the barking and how to train their dog, they wouldn't be on an episode of a tv show that showcases troublesome dogs starting a renowned dog trainer.🥴
This lady shouldnt have a doggie daycare period. To sit there and go debarking is less invasive than spaying or neurtoring and then after victoria said it should be illegal, and then when camera on her goes i havent done much research!!!! The heck are you doing acting like you did do research than by saying its less invassive...... your suppose to be guarding dogs when their owners arent around not potentially permanently harming them with ideas. Most animal care things here are illegal in other countries for a reason....
What the hell - can't train your dogs properly so you want to cut their vocal chords!? That's barbaric!! I have a barky dog he is a rescue and was abused and not socialised. It has taken a lot of work on my part to help him. Barks are them communicating, fear, stress, strangers... You have to address the issue to solve the barking. Also cutting chords isn't going to stop them being out of control!
I can't... they bite other dogs so when they are next to one she doesn't even consider to pull them back from the dog... in one clip we see even other human being tangled in leash
@@mariemcrae4027 that isn’t my point, this was described as a premier but it is a repeat, these episodes can be found on RU-vid, I just said we need new episodes that have not been uploaded previously.
Oooh my! If he would be my husband, i would be so grateful, if he likes his dogs on the couch, sitting on him or next to him! I would looove him even more😂 I looove a man, who not only accepts the dogs on the couch or bed, but loooves the dogs on the bed or couth, snuggling, kissing eachother. Never found a man like this man! So i stay single. This man is a gem. The barking is a problem if you are afraid to be kicked out of your house. But cutting the vocal cord?! Oooh my gosh, how horrible is that? Cruel yes. Interresting to watch this video. Thanks.
Interestingly enough, we taught our dogs to "speak" on command, which mitigated some - if not all - of the barking behavior. The dogs unfortunately always reacted to loud banging/knocking and the doorbell, but when we say "speak" they bark for a treat, then when we say "No speak!" they got quiet for a treat. Another thing you can try is giving them an occupying treat like a bone toy with some peanut butter in the crevices - that redirects their attention away from bells and knocking/banging among other stressers.
She run s a doggy daycare yet has no clue how to communicate with dogs or how to let dogs actually be dogs. Seriously no one's allowed to bark ever? She needs to get over herself. I couldn't even be around this woman.
This man has a genuine heart! Never saw a man like that for real. The dogs are 100% safe and nurtured by such a man. His wife is just a lucky one also!❤
Honestly, all the haters in the chat - not considering that city living does require dogs not to bark. Obviously, this women loves her dogs … she was at her breaking point. When someone gets evicted their dogs most likely will end up in a shelter. Let’s be happy they have Victoria to help
Sure, but why on earth was her first thought to mutilate her dogs?? Why did she not think of seeking out professional help to train the dogs to be quiet on command??
@astridmaack4516 Unfortunately a lot of people are unaware that you can use Counter Conditioning to end barking in a positive way. All the aversive methods get attention from people who don't know better (bark collars, yelling, vocal cord cutting 💔)
Thank you for having empathy for the owner! All the self-righteous dog owners in the comments are doing too much. The vocal chord surgery seemed like a last resort option because she’s highly stressed and a bit neurotic. She also said she didn’t do much research so chances are she wasn’t aware of the implications.
My dog before we got her had her vocal cords cut it’s the most inhumane thing every and when every she would try to bark it sounded like she was choking the first time we ever heard it we panicked and took her to the vet
The one thing I never understand with dog walking is if the dog is pulling you to get to another dog and constantly bark why would you stand there and let them? Why not pull them the other way or walk in a different direction. Thats just common sense
I'm only a few minutes in, already this woman has wrankled me. Why on earth is she running a day care for dogs when her own dogs are so out of control. As for cutting their vocal cords so they are unable to bark....BARBARIC and WONG on every level.
I agree de-barking should be hella illegal, I went to South Korea and it is commonplace to sever the vocal cords and these dogs still make noise, it’s extremely disturbing broken-squeaky toy noises 😱😑 safe to say I was traumatised this was “normal”