i guess people can get used to this in no time. given the fact that we had been doing such battery related planning from 20 years ago with all our personal devices. EV is the way forward. thank you for the video and both of you were very communicative and calm in bringing the essential points out.
Hey Yiyang! Good point on our habits evolving with our personal devices. Many people complained about needing to charge the Apple Watch daily (compared to weekly for other smartwatches), yet it's now one of the most widely used smartwatches.
Great video! I lived in a condo with no dedicated at home charging, so I lived the same way you do. For 4 months I supercharged my 2014 Model S 60 almost daily. Now we live where we can charge directly at home, even though it's slower. 😀👍🏿
Daren this is a great service to would be Tesla and other EV owners around the world. When I checked how many non Tesla chargers were around me I was shocked to see how many there were years ago when seeing a Tesla was still a rare site. Things are only getting better so the resistance to get off the pump and get onto the plug is even more compelling. Great video to showcase how having an EV is possible without having a garage at home. Just like petrol stations are not at our house and we plan where to fill up... this is the same but we can do something fun at the same time and not only use or time productively we will also save MONEY. I know which one I prefer.
Thanks D R-K! Singapore is also fortunate that it’s relatively late adoption of EVs means that it gets EVs with higher range and wider availability of fast EV chargers. The country is a 50km (30 miles) drive from end-to-end, which is shorter than some LA commutes!
I own a 2022 Tesla Model 3 Performance for about 1 month without a garage. You can certainly make it work but it’s a hassle when compared to owning an ICE vehicle. One thing to remember is that Level 3 Superchargers are fast but they cause more wear and tear on your battery. That leaves you with Level 2 charging options which are better than Level 1 (110V Outlet), but they are still fairly slow with an average of 21 miles charge per hour. So while you can certainly live with an EV without a garage, it’s much easier to live with one if you have a garage to plug in your car when you are not using it. Another point to consider is that Tesla chargers have a 99% up time but this is not the case for 3rd party chargers as they tend to be less reliable and in many cases are broken. So if you don’t have good Level 2 Tesla options around you, you could find it frustrating to find and use 3rd party chargers. Not only are 3rd party chargers not as reliable but they usually have about 2 stations which can be in use when you need it. If you live in an apartment like I do, you may not have the option to install a 220V (Level 2) charging in your garage. The 110V outlet (Level 1) is sufficient as long as you don’t drive your Tesla for long distances every day. In my case I work from home so my M3P stays plugged in on average for 16+ hours a day with a 110V outlet. I sleep for 8 hours and work from home for 8 hours. The charge from a 110V is about 4 miles per hour so you can easily get about 64 miles charge per day which works if you drive less than this on average. This will allow you to always have enough charge for daily driving without having to use a Level 2 or 3 charger. On the weekends I tend to drive more so I end up using a Level 2 charger to get a little extra boost when needed. Just my personal input on the matter.
Fun and very informative video. Waiting on my Cybertruck. Up until know I had never seen the detailed procedure or heard these issues explicitly discussed, so for me it was very helpful. I know my son has given some thought about buying a Tesla, and as an apartment dweller brought this up as this no home charger issue. I will definitely let him view your walk-through! Btw Alvin's a pretty cool guy! You're a good team. Thanks Daren!!
Next level for sure! Say, I wanted to suggest a video or two (or more) introducing Singapore to your audience. Most Americans have never been out of the country, although some have traveled to Mexico and the Caribbean for the resorts and people in the northern states to Canada. A tiny percentage have been to East Asia and even fewer to your beautiful country. You can keep it Tesla-related as you stop at Supercharger locations and perhaps interview other owners about their Tesla experience. Just tossing out some ideas to further differentiate your channel! What do you think?
One thing also is not that the battery is degrading but that the driving style affects the range. Just how a gas car if you zoomed everywhere then you'll have less range than when you drive normal.
It would be a lie to say that there is no compromised in lifestyle. Compare to gas where by you can go where ever you want, If I am driving tesla, I will be very worried if I plan to go east coast park and need to triple check whether they have charging station there?
It is type of "persona" that I hope will continue to grow and maintain. Most people really are decent, though I admit it might be hard to remember that at times. If you are not yet an EV owner but wish to be, know that you are joining a large group of different people that are most great and you will also be welcomed. It's a good community with a great mission.
I’m sure this works fine in Singapore where there is basically summer all your round. Imagine living here in Norway with -25 degrees Celsius without a home charger. Heating up your car every morning with a cold battery. Wasting 30% battery on heating and maintaining cabin temp. When the car charges overnight with a plannned departure it also keeps the battery nice and warm, extending the range and the damage done to the battery driving it ice cold.
He does that as a habit he has but not because it is needed that much. Tesla has a very large range and is very efficient, especially for the size of Singapore. He could probably live his life as he did with petrol and fill up every 10 days or even longer but he instead takes advantage of the plugs wherever he is. Your experience and choices will be different depending on the EV you buy, but with a Tesla you can go further and do more before you NEED to charge.
That's not true. It depends on how much you drive per day, the average is approx 50kms but some do less and some more. You replenish the average use per day, you would need 3 mins in a supercharger or 2 hours in a conventional charger which is 40:1 ratio in speed
Suprised Shell offer a 11/22kw AC charger in SG, only 50/75kw DC chargers at service stations in Australia which is much faster, further to some 350kw charging stations run by 3rd parties like chargefox/evie and then dedicated Tesla superchargers. Some councils offer 11/22kw AC chargers as well as 50kw DC chargers to promote people visiting their municipality
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Thanks for the advice! The charge port door also automatically closes within approximately 10 seconds of removing the connector from the charge port. www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-BEE08D47-0CE0-4BDD-83F2-9854FB3D578F.html
I have a Model 3 and home charge, but my gf, who lives in a condo without charging access, is looking to get a Model Y. We plan on swapping charged cars as needed or having her charge at my place while she visits.
Would be great if condos start installing charge facilities, EVs are a great option in Singapore and home charging makes the experience so much better.
In the US, the map doesn't display any public chargers that use the common connector that all the other manufacturers use (J1772). We only see destination chargers that are installed at hotels, wineries, malls, and other businesses. For connecting to the common public chargers, cars sold in the US include a J1772 adapter.
I would like to ask say if you charge your Tesla to say 80% and you go overseas for 2 weeks. What is the likely battery % of the Tesla when you return home? As we know, say phone...even if you do not use it, the battery loses % over time. I am not sure of Tesla. For petrol, we knew that the petrol level doesn't change. Just wondering if it ever get to zero say you are out of country for 1-2 months. Will it get to zero, too low level to drive and in your home parking lot, there's no charge points and in that case, how can you start up the car or even get the Tesla enough charge to get to the nearby Super charger?
Hey Jason! The battery loses about 1% each day (depends on factors like weather conditions), so you can expect to lose around 14-20% battery in a 2 week overseas vacation. For those with home charging, Tesla strongly recommends keeping the vehicle plugged in to maintain battery health. For those without home charging, it's best to leave the country with at least 80% state of charge. Discharging the Battery to 0% may result in damage to vehicle components. To protect against a complete discharge, Model 3 enters a low-power consumption mode when the displayed charge level drops to approximately 0%. More details on battery health on the Tesla Model 3 Owners Manual: www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_us/GUID-7FE78D73-0A17-47C4-B21B-54F641FFAEF4.html
What is the cost of charging difference per kw between owning your own charging station and charging outside? In Suzhou where I work there's peak and non-peak hours which ranges between 40 cents after midnight to 1RMB after 8am. Charging outside is actually much more expensive from 1.8RMB upwards to 2RMB and even more. p/s: That's why I think Tesla's super charger network can be so profitable too coz a stall can easily turn over 1RMB/kw GP in China (somemore they don't take up extra space)
Hey Keith. Good question and happy to hear answers from other Singapore EV owners with home charging. I do not know the answer. Agree with your sentiment that it'll likely be cheaper with home charging!
if you are planning to build one supercharger at home, you are definitely Living in a landed property. If I were to be living in a landed property, I will fully utilize the space and build solar panels. this way, I am energy independent and all my electricity will be free.
More are coming up across North-South Expressway, and Tesla is building another Supercharger near Woodlands! Many Tesla owners have made successful trips to Penang and KL, and shared their videos on social media.
The road tax and insurance is the killer besides the ever rising CAT B COE.. Unless petrol shoots up to $4 per liter and above..it will be more worth to change to EV else hybrid would be a wiser choice.
Hey Rohit! Because the pace of EV advancement (especially Teslas) is still very fast, it’s unlikely that many people would want to renew their Tesla COE after 10 years. It would be like holding on to an iPhone for 10 years. The industry used to be a lot slower, but Tesla is changing things. Many parts of a Tesla (including the batteries) can be recycled.
Electric car in singapore is useful for short distance drive or city drive. Not logic to Malaysia drive and commercial use. Electric fees is higher than using fuel ,job delay every 1.5 days needs charging whereas fuel only every 5 days . The only logic for Singapoe use between two country is hybrid vehicles.
Full charge, will run for how many km? Is it possible to own a independent charger mechanism, when you're outside? ( this question is for country like Malaysia, when we go interstates , and not all gas station have EV charger).
One important thing you guys forgot to mention for owning a EV, there are no servicing/maintenance required! (no oil servicing, no Transmission oil, no need to worry about carbon buildup, etc)
Agree! In Singapore, this is currently partially offset by higher road taxes and insurance for EVs vs ICE cars. I believe the right thing to do is to increase the cost of ICE ownership (carbon taxes, less fuel subsidies to reflect the true cost to society).
Hi Daren is it correct to mention no oil change and going to the workshop at all (new car first oil change and also 10km, etc)...i assume (How is your trip to new giga opening too...looking forward)
i have a question. how does the onbaord computer communicate with the smart phone app when you are far away from the car? is there like 4G data subscription needed or smth?
I believe the higher COE goes, the more compelling Tesla (and other EVs) will be. The resale value of ICE cars will continue declining as we get closer to the 2030 phase out of new ICE car sales.
i suppose owners will still have to pay for the car park entry fee for the duration of the charging right? unless the strategy is to charge within 10-15 mins under the grace period.
@@DarenYoong 10mins for 150km is actually very impressive. super convenient to just do a quick stop islandwide (in future), surf the web on the phone abit, and then have the next 2-3 days of mileage settled in 10-15mins. rinse and repeat. my initial worry is that people might be so used to charging to full tank on ICE so they expect the same on EVs, which will take much longer time. might deter the transition to EVs this way. I guess the former will apply to non landed tesla owners, but the latter full tank is for landed tesla owners who can afford to do so.
@@hgr126 Education and cost will help curb that. This video and you comment will help to keep that at bay. It is a societal lifestyle change we are a part of, like plugging in your phone. Our parents and grandparents never had to do that or could imagine doing it, but now look at us all. It will become common place and as battery chemistry changes and it becomes the standards so will certain habits and behaviors become the norm.
He just convince me that we shouldn’t get a Tesla for now atleast.. it is really inconvenient, looking for charging all the time.. imagine if it is pouring. Not forgetting the higher insurance and higher road tax, it erodes more than any savings you get from charging.
Yes, some people feel this way! It’s good to speak with friends or family who have an EV to hear their 1st hand views on the pros & cons. Most people won’t need a car in Singapore with our good public transportation.
Thank you Daren for sharing this. perhaps you could also do a video talking to owners how is the quality of their cars. There is apparently some hesitation that the QC of cars are not great but the China made ones might be different.
Lucky guy with money and no need to work. Just drive around looking for public charger. For people like me not having such deep pocket and all the time in the world, will find it very difficult. EVs cars are not for everyone.
As more and more start to buy EV car, next time the charging stations will be crowded then the stations will be fully occupied, so have to queue to charge? waste of time, no?
Thanks. Until super chargers are available in every petrol stations and other charging stations, no sense to spend so much time charging, including looking for availability slots, take (spend money) time to do other tasks like taking other transport to gym😅, buying coffee to wait while one will not take while taking petrol. Wait till 2030 and hopefully the government replace all chargers to super chargers. Need to compare apple to apple without changing present lifestyle, in taking full tank and full charge in terms of time taken and costs. The car should improve your lifestyle and not changing lifestyle for the car 🤣. Meantime hybrid car is the way to go for now... for greener path and environmental friendly.
Hey Ashley. We wanted to let others see the charging experience in the rain. It rains a lot in Singapore, so this gives a view of both rain & shine. Hopefully it helps destigmatize charging in the rain!
do not complain Tesla or other EVs, ask Singapore government why they make the move in new energy so slow. To me so ridiculous the government is also not ramping up EV superchargers with their reason that wasted battery is damaging more to the envrionment. I don't understand why they can't make a battery recycling plant or invest new technology on that.
Not a very neutral review, didn't talk about the negative issues n possible scenarios, like if he goes to that Shell and want to go to the gym, but the lot is already taken up by another car, won't your schedule and plans all get haywire? Also, the cost of ev, esp Tesla, is almost double than ICE cars, and uncertainty on how much the fees for charging will increase in the near future, so, no to EV for most of the drivers now.
Yes, that's a fair point. Am currently in California, and there are queues for many EV chargers. It'll always be good to have some buffer battery and/or backup plans in case the EV charger we're heading to is occupied. On pricing, a Toyota Camry would be similar pricing with a Tesla Model 3 SR+. EV charging fees are consistently lower than fuel costs in every country in the world. In Singapore, many businesses estimate up to SG$6,000 of fuel savings per year switching to EVs. There are also other lower cost EV options available from BYD, MG and Hyundai (some of their models are in COE Category A).
other than cheaper energy cost, what are their other financial benefits of owning an EV(be it electric car or electric motorcycle)? in terms of the COE cost, road tax and insurance. Does it make financial sense in general to own an EV in Singapore?
It makes sense for most people to not own a car in Singapore. We can buy 3 cars in other countries for the cost of 1 car in Singapore. For the remaining ones who have conviction to own a car, Tesla is one of the best choices.
What an awful place to have a performance car. The speed limits are all to slow and there are so many speed camera. So many regulations. I don’t know if EV’s have a COE but I hope not as it is so repressive.
For rich people who got a lot of time to waste. Where does the electricity came from? From the gas turbine. Why not have the car running from gas fuel?
Tesla Superchargers make it a lot more feasible (up to 270km charged in 30 mins). Hard to imagine owning a non-Tesla EV without home charging currently.
Tesla thinks technology. They forget formable. Check there seats. It is short. Check its handles. Always play with you ! It is hard to catch it for newer. Check its frunk. Always need two hands close it. 😀
Perhaps only possible for single and free folks. For those who are committed and busy with work/family, a lifestyle change and forking out extra time just to "fuel up" the car is not worth it.
Many of the Tesla owners in Singapore are parents working full-time. A growing number of offices have EV chargers, so you save rather than spend time recharging (no need to go to a petrol station on weekdays).