Oxalate Poisoning & Dumping: What It Looks Like, the Microbiome Myth & Why Zero Carb May Not Work 

Summary: - Oxalates are compounds that come from oxalic acid and exist as acids or crystals, either soluble or insoluble. - Oxalates can bind to positively charged elements like calcium, magnesium, and iron, forming crystals. - Ingesting excessive oxalates can lead to kidney stones and crystal deposits in various body tissues. - Oxalates are found in certain foods, including dark leafy greens (spinach, chard, beet greens), nuts (almonds, cashews, peanuts), non-gluten grains (buckwheat, quinoa), beans (black beans, white beans), sweet potatoes, chocolate, raspberries, kiwi, star fruit, and more. - Oxalates are associated with inflammation, oxidative stress, and chronic health issues. - Consuming large amounts of vitamin C, including through IV supplementation, can lead to oxalate crystal deposits. - Avoiding high-oxalate foods can help reduce the risk of health problems associated with oxalate accumulation. Oxalates can cause fatigue and brain fog. - High oxalate diet can damage gut and immune system. - Reducing oxalates in food prep is food specific. - Soaking nuts for 24 hours can reduce phytates but increase oxalic acid. - Oxalate crystals irritate gut, don't usually get absorbed into blood. Low oxalate: - Animal foods like meat and liver have low oxalate content. - Low oxalate plant foods include lettuces, cabbage family vegetables, melons, cucumbers, winter squashes, white rice. Symptoms: - Oxalate-related symptoms: arthritis, headaches, skin issues, fungal infections, neural inflammation. - Symptoms can arise during oxalate elimination as body clears stored crystals. - Energy exhaustion during clearing is normal; healing can be a complex process. Cycles of oxalate release can be observed and managed over time. Oxalate poisoning can lead to various symptoms: - Aches, joint pains, and muscle tension - Migraines, headaches, and fibromyalgia-like pain - Sleep disturbances and nighttime arousal - Urinary tract and pelvic issues, including pain - Blood cell problems, like low white blood cell counts - Oxalates can contribute to fibrosis and scar tissue - Oxalic acid interferes with cell functions and signaling - Eliminating high oxalate foods can alleviate symptoms - inclusion of some carbohydrates, such as sweet potatoes, can balance and temporarily reduce the rate of oxalate excretion. - Different individuals respond differently to oxalates, so listen to your body Kidney Stones & Estrogen: - Estrogen is generally protective against kidney stones. - Menopausal women are at higher risk of kidney stone formation when clearing oxalates. Balancing pH and Citric Acid: - Maintaining alkalinity in the body helps prevent kidney stone formation. - Low citric acid levels in urine increase kidney stone risk. - Alkalizing agents like lemon juice, potassium citrate, and mineral baths can help. Research and Support: - Medical research focuses on kidney stone prevention. - Personalized approaches are necessary due to individual variations. - Experiment with different mineral supplements and baths to find what works. Healing and Mitochondria: - Reducing oxalate consumption can support mitochondrial health. - Adequate minerals, vitamins, and hydration are essential for cellular energy. - B-vitamins and minerals like thiamine help improve mitochondrial function. Mineral Bathing: - Mineral baths, like epsom salts and sea salt, can aid in mineral replenishment. - Potassium bicarbonate, baking soda, and boron may be beneficial. - Gradually increasing bath frequency and duration can provide benefits. - Mineral baths can be beneficial, especially for children who may not take supplements. - Applying minerals through the skin can be effective for absorption. Gut health: - Claims of specific bacteria healing the gut and eliminating oxalate issues are often oversimplified. - Gut health is complex, and restoring it to a perfect state is challenging due to the diversity of microorganisms needed. - No single probiotic or bacteria can solve all gut-related problems. - Historical evidence shows that oxalates from foods have caused health issues long before modern lifestyles. - The kidney literature suggests that urine containing 25 milligrams or less of oxalate is considered normal. - Our body produces about 12 milligrams of oxalate daily; dietary intake must stay within that limit. - Good gut health allows absorption of 10-15% of dietary oxalates, making a daily intake of 150-200 milligrams reasonable. - Leaky gut or certain health conditions may reduce tolerance to 50 milligrams of oxalate daily. - Normal oxalate diet is 100-200 milligrams, while many popular foods exceed this limit. - Adjust your oxalate intake based on gut health, avoid overconsumption, and consider consulting for personalized guidance.

After watching all the doctors pushing veganism on tv I became vegan for 12 years. Most of the time I had brain fog, migraines, joint and muscle pain. Doctors could not find anything wrong, even though I was very sick. My whole life was centered around greens,green tea,berries. One day I saw a youtube channel about Oxalates and changing to Carnivore diet, I went carnivore and all bad symptoms went away. Been carnivore now for 4 years and my health is 100% better.

You had me at that picture of the eyes, that has been me since age 27, im 54 now. No doctor ever, ever, ever talked about my diet. But this totally makes sense now. I thought i was allergic to soy, because 3-4 days after eating it my eyes freak out and look like those pictures, turns out soy is high in oxalates. I’m going down the rabbit hole now, thank you, I feel hopeful. Thought i might go blind some day but now there is hope.

65 years of bladder leak issues. I sometimes felt like there were needles in my pee. 4th day of carnivore diet, for the first time I can remember, I had NO urine leaks.

Vegan and vegetarian for years and it ruined my health... now 5 years carnivore and pretty much repaired the damage.

Thank you for bringing this information to the forefront. Vegetarian for 8 years….70 with crippling osteoarthritis. Started carnivore 3 weeks ago. Within 5 days I could walk without pain. Now, this hasn’t been easy…severe flu episode, outrageous keto rash and complete exhaustion. At least I can walk. Yes, I was hooked on the oxalates…am working non-oxalate veggies back in slowly. So thrilled to have this information 🙏 I can’t believe I am pain free. I will deal with any of the dumping issues that come along. I have my power back ❤

As a person that has been studying nutrition and the eating trends for decades, I have come to the conclusion that there is really nothing left to eat by the time you remove all of the foods with oxalates, insulin raising foods, foods with parasites, foods that have too much protein, or cause mucus, foods that cause inflammation and/or allergies,....What is a person to do? I have heard that we are frugivores according to our physiology or we are omnivores, or Forks Over Knives is the best, or Keto is the best. We hear don't eat meat because it causes cancer among other things, don't eat fat because it makes you fat, don't eat plant foods because they have enzymes that prevent digestion and then cause issues,...Yikes! I have been studying this stuff for 25 years and I am more confused than I was in the beginning!

I was eating almonds making almond flour breads and everything else to nut bars 😢 I ate beets spinach and kale Swiss chard Brazil nuts cashu butter constantly and almond milk I ate raspberry daily kiwi 🥝 and tons of brown rice quinoa and beans. I ate sweet potatoes with everything 😢My whole diet was oxolates. I been gastric for two years and in pain thinking I’m doing something wrong. My cabinet is packed with chocolate and almond crackers chips 😢coco powder. I’m over here feeling like death and pepole think I’m a hypochondriac making stuff up and now finding this stuff out because my sister has had kidney problems. It’s oxolates 😢

Sally looks like she's winner her oxalate battle... she looks younger every time she pops up on the screen.

Love that Sally Norton is so practical and easy to understand. I’ve been a carnivore for a year and have been looking into the claim that vegetables are bad for us. This was very balanced and makes sense that we weren’t meant to eat them all the time as much as we do. Again, very helpful! Great questions Pim!

Thank you for explaining it very well. I have not been feeling well since I became vegan 10 years . Whenever I eat spinach or sweet and white potatoes, beets, almonds , I get very sick. I avoided them but still not feeling well ; so I decided to research it . Just found out a month ago about oxalates and started getting off the high oxalates slowly.

Tells it like it is -- truly appreciated! (This from a 28-year sufferer of Fibromyalgia, Osteoarthritis, Degenerative Disc Disease, Chronic Fatigue and hypoThyroidism, etc...) Thanks!!!

The body as a construction zone analogy makes so much sense and explains exactly what my body has been doing. 75 days carnivore and I’m in my second clearing cycle. This second cycle seems to be a little stronger than the first and although I’m a little tired and my elbows hurt, I’m so pleased to feel my body WORKING instead of falling apart. After the first cycle, my ketosis state and energy came roaring back, looking forward to the next roar! Ms. Norton, your advise is spot on. So, I eat a salad once per month and throw the occasional minced onion or peeled and seeded tomato into my meatballs to try helping my body level out, and the rest of the time I’m follow Dr Berry’s idea of BBBE and I’m healing my autoimmune symptoms and gradually losing the weight. It’s such a relief to feel like I’m not at war with my body. I literally cannot help blabbing about this to my entire family and almost everyone I know.

Wow! Great video! My gradual shift from vegetarianism to Keto to Carnivore was a good move. Thanks Sally!

After 13 years as a vegetarian, 2 more as vegan, and eventually 2 as a strict raw food began, I ended up with osteoporosis and Hashimoto and completely post-menopausal at 46. I entered menopause still in my 30s. My body temperature at one point was 95 F. I thought I was doing the healthy thing, but I damaged myself for many years.

Her Book has been very helpful for myself and my husband. I never would have thought all the "healthy food" I was consuming was actually causing so many heal issues if I hadn't experienced relief from cutting them out of my diet. Thanks so much Sally!!!

My mind is blown right now. Several autoimmune diseases, painful Reynauds, lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, endometriosis, 5 years of infertility, chronic yeast infections, repeat UTI’s even Ureaplasma infection… been carnivore for almost 6 weeks now and feeling better at 36 than I have in my Whole life. I sleep at a decent hour now (no longer insomniac and sleepless) more energy, no longer tired during the day. Moods are stable, no more depression, and even my anxiety is gone and I feel like myself! It’s not easy, and can be tempting to want to cheat… but as Mikhaila Peterson says nothing tastes as good as healthy feels. I say nothing that tastes so good is worth it to feel like crap. I actually have a big red bump on my eye, not a stye, a chilazion. Hmm maybe it’s clearing.

I eat a plant-strong diet (no meat). I have never had any of the problems mentioned. 🤔🙂 I also do not mega dose on vitamin C. I just eat a balanced diet, avoid extremes, and feel great + energetic 56 years as a vegetarian. Teaching PE at age 60, btw.

Sally is such a great person. She's always willing to help you with advice. I suffer from oxalate poisoning and I suffer from kidney stones. Since I've greatly reduced my oxalate consumption ive started to have dumping issues on and off for the past 8 months or so. I've done a lot of research over the years and know a lot about how things work and so on. But sally knows her stuff unlike no other.

Omg, I was reluctant to click on this video, but I'm so happy I did. This theory ties together so many of my health problems. There's no possible harm in giving it a try, so I certainly will. Thank you so much for putting this information out here!

I so enjoyed this conversation with incredible Sally. Thanks so much for inviting her and asking great questions!!

This is a really great conversation and I'm excited to attend Sally's class next week. I have beaten myself up over the exhaustion, and yes, two hour naps are a regular thing for me. It's really made me realise that I really need to reduce my work schedule, and not feel guilty for it. Thank you!

Oxilates, Salicylates and Histamines all give me huge problems; although according to mainstream medicine this is all in my head!! Only cure I've found is fasting. Thank you for this information. I'd like to add that today is day 6 of mega dosing B1....My energy is improved as is the Fibro pain. I began symptoms almost 6 decades ago so I'm very excited by this.

For the people that think we are all nuts, damage to your gut and/or rare genetics can create oxalate problems. Mine started with exposure to a job with aspergillus mold and fiberglass circulating which led to gluten intolerance, which led to oxalate problems after having a doctor put me on stronger and stronger rounds of antibiotics for a fungal sinus infection. I have no doubt in my mind my problems are from oxalates.

Thanks Pim, thanks Sally. Podcasts on oxalates are never good news, but it's so impt to get the information out there. Sally is such an integral part of this. So grateful for her work. Looking forward to her book. Thanks for providing this conversation, hopefully it will continue

Sally has done such an incredible job, if only I had known sooner.

This could explain so many "mystery diseases/symptoms" for which no cause is known--some of fibromyalgia, spinal stenosis, ankylosing spondylitis, Complex Regional Pain Syndrome (CRPS), etc.

Awesome interview! So much great information shared here, and so many light bulbs came on while hearing Sally’s stories. I’ve only recently heard of oxalates, and have been searching for answers for so long, but so much of what she said made perfect sense. Thank you so much!

27:10 Years ago, my son had this same rash and top eyelid bump, I now wonder if his body was trying to expel oxalates. The photos are so helpful!

Appreciate Sally so much. One of my favorite speakers and topics. I would love to speak with her someday! Have had truly astonishing experiences going low oxalate (some painful but all have improved my health after they passed). Love this woman and her amusing analogies and way of speaking!! Just this week I had a small pustule on the back of my rib cage, I scratched it open and inside was this tiny, flat, perfect square, translucent crystal. Amazing! Couldn’t get over its sharpness and symmetry! Definitely not a shape you want nor one that is normally found in our bodies! A true weapon. The body mounts an enormous effort to excrete various forms of oxalate once we finally lay off of them! If I ever have children it will be one of my greatest gifts to them to not poison them with oxalate foods! Thank you Sally & Pim!

I’ve been keto/carnivore now for 1 year. Prior to starting I was mainly vegetarian and suffered from headaches and migraines, fatigue, insulin resistance and I was 25 pounds over weight. Fast forward to today, zero headaches, zero migraines, insulin is perfect and I am my ideal weight, lost the whole 20kg. Never felt better tbh. I think the key for me is fat content, the body has 2 fuels Fat and carbohydrates, if you are removing carbs you have to increase the fat, whether it be from animals or healthy plant fats like avocado, coconut. If you don’t eat enough fat, you will feel fatigued.

I shed white skin like crazy and I thought it was my thyroid. I take meds for hypothyroid and couldn’t firhue it out. Now I know what my body is doing. Thank you

I cannot wait for this! I love Sally! (You too of course😘) I was so prone to kidney stones they thought I had medulary sponge kidney. Really what I had was salads with chicken breast almost every day. Lots of spinach, kale, potatoes, etc 🤦‍♀️

4 years as a carnivore here. Oxalate dumping sucks. Its cyclical and and honestly the validation is the most helpful.

This is wild, back in November 2019 I started having really uncomfortable stomach aches in the morning, like clockwork. I have had lactose intolerance forever, so I assumed it was something sneaking into the salad dressing I was putting on the massive spinach salads I was eating. I stopped eating the spinach, but the digestive problems continued. Many doctors visits, tests, and procedures later, I finally had a diagnosis “SIBO”. I’m still fighting SIBO, but I believe my problems started because of the Oxalates in the spinach. I took a food sensitivity blood test that revealed my body had a significant reaction to: apples, almonds, kale, wheat, bran, barley, cashews…

Thank you. What you said about the medical community has certainly surfaced for me in dealing with kidney stones.

When I started growing my own veggies I realized how hard work it is, and it made me realize that animals are much more available food source! Easier to "harvest" so the conclusion is quite simple.

OMG!!!!! I have suffered for TEN YEARS with some kind of weird fungus/suppurative dermatitis, neuro and vision issues etc. A pathologist with 30years experience said my tissue sample did not have all of the markers of anything he'd ever seen! This has literally ruined my quality of life. But the MAIN symptom of my skin issues is crystal like GRANUALS that come out of my skin -even my EYES. The small ones look like grains of sugar and salt Ocassionally they are larger but they are crystal like in texture. There are so many additonal symptoms but MANY of them mirror what you are discussing in this video.

One of the BEST interviews I’ve ever heard about health! How many have oxylate poisoning? This answers so many questions about my own health. ❤

Thanks Pim, Sally is a star guest she's full of interesting information and has helped me enormously

Really enjoy how she explains everything.

Always a pleasure listening to Sally Norton. Her extensive knowledge and helpful suggestions help us manage oxalates and feel better. Thank you!

Every time I hear Sally Norton interviewed, I learn something new. Thanks for another great interview!

Sally’s information is amazing - for years I have had joint pain in my groin area that affected my walking etc. I started isolating a lot of the foods she mentioned and now I can climb stairs fine - I am working on my urine release that is causing me some sleepiness nights and have to make Sure am not too far from a toilet when I am out - thanks for sharing your research - Emily from the UK

Now I understand why I got a weird boil on my neck for no apparent reason after starting carnivore. Now the reason is apparent! Thanks for the explanation.

I'm so discouraged. 10 years?!? It's a nightmare 😓

Oxilate stone removed 8 mm Now on my journey Thank you for this information ladies A lot to plan xxx

This discussion is very nuanced; when I first heard Sally 's content I had an impulse to dismiss it.... now, being very low to zero carb for several years I'm experiencing some reduction in lumbar pain (to zero level)... as she said it takes years.... Also: be careful with "food grade citric acid" - it's manufactured from black mold (believe it or not) & many ppl have a bad reaction to it.... I only use pure lemon juice.... thank you so much Pim & Sally (ps - I ordered her book)

Wonderful interview Pim😀😀..I've watched Sally on so many videos and I am always educated....Thank You

Pim and Sally, thank you both SO much for putting this out in the world. Having just stumbled across this I don't know if it's my answer but I think it could definitely be a piece of the puzzle. I've been diagnosed with MS and body wide peripheral nephropathy which typically don't happen together. Have a kidney stone, a scary cyst and stenosis. Have something terrible going on in my sinuses. Tested positive once for an antibody indicative of granulomatosis with polyangitis so it might be that. Have had connective tissue disease for a long time. Have had a 3 level cervical fusion (that failed to fuse on any level) from degenerative disc disease. Bad arthritis, the eye thing, frequent swelling so bad I don't look like myself. So many systems going haywire that my neurologist and primary aren't sure of the MS diagnosis or how I could be unlucky as to have so many systems malfunctioning all at the same time. I've had most of the symptoms discussed in this. For the first time in a long time I don't feel like a doomed mutant, but like a human who's just discovered a possible path out of this painful territory. I've been hesitant to start any hard core medication/therapy because there hasn't been a definitive answer and I'd rather measure twice and cut once than make a mistake with immunosuppressive drugs. Instead I've been doing alternative therapies, body work, acupuncture. 2 days ago my acupuncturist asked about my nut consumption. Was gluten free for about 3 years. Fell off the wagon and have been trying to get back on. I know I have sensitivities. The thing has been that going gf and using the current substitutes haven't helped me feel any better, worse actually. Been regularly consuming buckwheat, sweet potatoes and all the veggies high in oxalic acid. Now I can see why. I wonder if the granuloma thing could be what Sally is explaining in this. It's nice to have hope. I have to wonder how much the manipulation of our food supply has contributed to oxalates possibly being a more prevalent issue.

I have been passionate about health and diet my whole life but the more you study the more you realize there is no agreement on anything and basically every single food and supplement that you once thought was good is eventually called bad. I could list every single food item now and find something wrong with it according to some. Each food is high in something bad that should be avoided: oxalates, phytates, salicylates, goitrogens, lectins, nightshades, histamine, glutamate, acrylamide, cholesterol, saturated fat, omega 6, high insulin index, gluten, casein, too much iron, parasites, mercury, arsenic, hormones, ....not to mention food allergens and sensitivities that many have. Just choose your poison or starve. There really are no good answers in nutrition the more one studies it.

I'm 28 and I used to be vegan until I became sick from it. Even after I stopped being vegan I drank almond milk daily and regular pain was my norm until I started to question why. I found out about oxalates and stopped drinking it, which really helped with my migraines and other pain. I do mostly carnivore now but sometimes I have rice and small amounts of oxalates and I feel anxious about it (by being afraid of the pain coming back) but going 100% carnivore indefinitely feels impossible, like my body is telling me something. I'll attempt trying to cycle this like our ancestors might have, thanks to this video I feel less guilty.

Fascinating interview, thank you for sharing!

This was very informative, thank you both! Pim you are a great interviewer.

I am so grateful for all of the research being done on oxalate these days. A friend of mine has type zero oxalosis and it’s so good to have updated lists of foods he should not eat and ideas about what can help dissolve stones. Thank you so much for all of your research.

Great informative interview, especially contrasting high vs low oxy foods. Will have to try this.

Excellent video - learning things I already suspected about oxalates - thank you so much!

She is gifted at explaining. So am I hearing right that this is just another reason for energy loss for mitochondrial conditions. Some folks can be 34 but feel like they are 70. No energy...

Outstanding what can I say but thank-you what knowledge ,what empathy , truly a remarkable person so easy to listen to ,and such a wonderful help for me and my family I wish I could of found this sooner .I'm a fan

Oxalic acid is used in furniture repair to remove water stains. When people apply it they are very careful to wash down the furniture afterwards as it's apparently not great to breathe in.

I have suffered with stomach issues all my life. As a child and adult, I became ill when eating pork but until recently, spinach was the vegetable I consumed the most. I also ate raspberries, blackberries, strawberries and though not usually a fan of potatoes, I love crispy french fries and sweet potatoes. I have suffered with acne as a teenager and was left with acne scars and over the past 20 years, suffered with eczema. I have been prescribed everything from antibiotics to clobetosol propionate. In July I was hospitalized and tests showed I had diverticulitis. I was told that I could return to eating normally in a week. I did no return to eating normally in a week and lost 18 pounds in 14 days and another 8 in the past month. I was told I could also follow the FODMAP diet which includes eating some of the same foods that are referenced in this video as high in oxalates. I now eat fresh vegetables but have removed spinach from my diet. No more breads. No more deserts and though processed sugars are contained in so many of the foods we eat, I have stopped buying donuts, cookies, and ice cream. I am also taking B1 with thiamicin, B3, a compound made from the yucca plant, potassium and other supplements. Today, a little more than a month after being released from the hospital I felt much stronger. The itching caused by eczema and triggered from the foods I ate and more recently, from the medicines I was prescribed upon my release, is gradually dissipating. I think this video provides a lot of valuable information though when it comes to following a FODMAP or other diets, it sometimes takes testing how your body reacts to foods.

In 2016 I was on the AIP diet when I started eating a lot of sweet potatoes including often for breakfast with turkey bacon and butter. Fast forward I learned about carnivore and had the foods most difficult to give up were dark chocolate and sweet potatoes. I've been experiencing oxylate dumping so I had to reintroduce low oxylate foods. Sally's book Toxic Superfoods is an excellent resource with a lot of information. Sally's book lists low oxylate options such as instead of sweet potatoes eat turnips and rutabaga. I now eat a low carb diet with my sugar cravings gone. Great interview!

17:46 haha. I know I'm never going to grow up. It's too late. This lady KNOWS her stuff. I trust her so much and I'm always happy to listen to what she has to say. Thanks for this great video. I think everyone in the world should watch this.

That was really interesting! Thank you so much for sharing.

Great video. I've learned a lot from this one. Thank you :)

I researched and found a noseless seat for my bicycle which really does help but....what Sally is saying holy cow. 15 years to detox? That's a loooooong time. Maybe I'll just taper off and see if I can get some relief. Thanks so much ladies for this video.

Sally, you are correct about the dental plaque. I never had a cavity in my entire life and I never had my teeth cleaned. My teeth were perfect without any problem whatsoever. Then one day I had my teeth cleaned, and the tartar plaque was removed. Problems began. I destroyed my good oral microbiome and have lost three teeth because of it. Never clean your teeth. Just brush.

I'm glad RU-vid suggested your video. Many thanks for this information. I got some rashes and strange infections. I went to a dermatologist and then to a rheumatologist. my blood tests confused them and had to repeat them. I was told to go back if it flares up again. I was buying almonds, cashews, and peanuts by the kilogram. I will give them up.

Wow, what a wealth of information!!

I'm getting so frustrated! I looked up foods containing oxalate. All very nutritional and healing. Good for you. I need to do what is best for me. What in the world can you eat!!!!

also SOOOOOOO glad she mentioned the gut flora because truly. that has been my hunch as well. the gut microbiome "fixing everything" cure makes absolutely no sense

I'm really looking forward to her book.

This is the kind of stuff that should be taught in schools.

The information about vitamin C megadoses is fascinating. Vitamin C megadoses never appealed to me, I never saw the point as it didn't seem to prevent colds for me. I never took much C even though it seemed like something benign with only potential benefit, and I heard that the body just eliminates what it can't use. Hearing how vitamin C can interact with the oxalates in the body makes me glad I never took much vitamin C.

Thanks a bunch for writing that down. 😊

WOW....great talk with Sally...this is the best one I have listened to........

I have experienced kidney stones, have autoimmune issues including arthritis plus severe dry eye and dry mouth which has resulted in scraped corneas and sores in mouth from interior of mouth sticking to teeth and me accidentally opening mouth without adequately lubricating the mouth. One thing that has helped has been removing high tannin foods and drinks but hasn't eliminated. While I had reduced spinach (used to love spinach salad with fresh berries 2-3 times per week and spinach in scrambled eggs and in various soups etc) and berries because they contributed to the kidney (and perhaps gallstones) and the gout. While listening to this vid I also did a search for high oxalate foods to see what other foods were high in oxalates looking at multiple sites. While they all agreed with spinach and blueberries, one site would include, for instance, blackberries, celery and kale as high oxalate foods and other sites include those as low oxalate foods. There doesn't seem to be any agreement. You also suggest lemon juice as beneficial but lemon is another thing that I have identified as something that exasperates the dry mouth/eyes) How on earth can someone determine whether to follow your advice or to listen to the next professing expert on the subject? And what is it about oxalates that is resulting in so much conflicting information?

Thank you so much for ths interview! I had some of the same issues (ugh candida!) after going carnivore, and some of them I never attributed to oxolate. I had most of the typical symptoms and some. This was an awesome interview and the best one I have seen with Sally K Norton so far. :)

Fascinating, like all thing they have their purpose but clearly meant to be had in moderation and probably seasonally.

This is new to me except that my friend had told me about the thin film on spinach leaves that causes kidney stones. He had told me raw spinach causes that. He had told me to always cook spinach because cooking breaks down the film and then I would be okay. I am amazed to hear that foods I also eat like black beans and chocolate also are now on the bad foods to eat list! Maybe cooking the beans also helps to break it down? I’m not going to eat them straight from the can anymore just in case. I have never experienced a problem that I know of from oxalates but prevention seems to be the key so thank you for your knowledge!

Sally K Norton is a life saver. I need to listen to her on a regular basis. Healing from oxalate poisoning is a bumpy road! I can identify with the journey of bone healing and eye healing.

I started taking copper and I have a lot of these white heads on my face. This diet makes sense to me, because I have a hard time digesting a lot of the ‘healthy’ superfoods. I also have chronic inflammation most of the time. Thank you for the information!

Love Sally Norton's book! Fascinating! ❤

Pim, I really enjoy your method of interviewing. You listen well and ask pertinent questions. I recently started my 95/5 carnivore diet and am having a rough go of it. I crash for a day or two and then bounce back to some degree of energy. Hope you are doing well and seeing progress as you heal. Thank you!

After years of experiencing PMS, migraines, fibromyalgia, leaky gut….doctors kept doing test, nerve ablations, epidurals and prescribing pain meds such as anti depressants, anti anxiety drugs, oxycodone, injectable morphine & worse. I never improved. I got much worse. I finally discovered I have toxic levels of osculates and now toxic levels of several metals (likely all the pharmaceuticals) This website will make a huge difference for me and many others! I wish western medicine would educate better

Im just gonna say im so damn grateful to be finding out this information at only 23 years old! id have alot less oxalate build up

whenever I watch videos like this I read the real world comments.

Great interview! Great questions! Thanks.

You are generous. You didn't have to spend your time on this podcast. Thank you for the concepts of napping and roving inflammation. My doctors have not considered oxalate dumping for unexplained problems with my salivary glands and sinuses. Food is poison and medicine.

Parsley is off the charts! Oh, chocolate explains my 9mm kidney stone...this is quite the learning curve. Oh, good...radishes are low - you can cook those like cottage fries [potatoes] or grated and cooked like hashbrowns - they're supposed to be delish. I went off Keto and just concentrated on 'no-to-low oxalate' foods for a month and dropped 11 pounds - I'm guessing of inflammation. And my fasting blood sugar number was the lowest I've had ever. Thank you for this interview...I think I found my 'ground zero' for my health mysteries.

Thank you ❤. You're my hero!!!! I'm going to get your book 😊.

So much good information on oxalates. She has saved me from some dumping, and it explains so much about my past problems, and also current issues. I have some years to go to get oxalates out of my body.

i am 100% carnivore and now this makes soooooo much more sense that i eat about half my calories from milk now. its binding oxalates and keeping me healthy... half and half :)

You are right. I was eating way too many greens and sweet potato etc and I felt many of these symptoms and acids coming out to side of eye from tearing and leaving crystals of white left over from tearing and peeing too much etc. and bloating

Thanks 🙏 for letting us know you ❤

Thanks for sharing this video

Thank you. I tried joining a carnivore group. My first question was how do I slow this oxalate release? They said it’s noise they do not want to hear, they ignore noise. I kept tea & a tiny amount of Hu milk chocolate. Then I did epsom salt foot baths. It took a few days & oxalates came out fast. Adding more plants wasn’t slowing this oxalate release, it made it worse. After my flank pain I understood I did it too fast. When you start be careful of over eating Carnivore groups. They have carb addictions, and are like an AA group. They preach abstinence. I know slow is better, work up to 0 carb.

52min42 secs 100% I noticed my night vision improved 4 months post oxalate dumping and flexibility has increased as well.

Great video, I pray what Mrs. Norton was calling black raspberries are not blackberries ,because I raise a lot of them and of course consume them twice a year when the plants produce the berries !

Water Spinach and Cassava are pretty normal to be consumed in Indonesia btw. Have a nice day both. Thanks for the information in the video.