To be fair, Ive never seen a person in my career with so many back to back accidents either. A lot of jobs would let you go. It doesn't matter on if you got hit by a car or not.
Exactly. She fails to realise businesses don't have time to hold your hand and feel sorry for you when you are getting negative feedback from clients. It also makes one wonder why so many accidents
Judging from this recording, it feels like this was not even about accidents or sick leaves. They just didn't like your personality and she's right when she says it's who you are, you can't improve. I wouldn't be able to change my personality either.
This is true, if you listened to the full meeting in part 2, they somewhat implied that they were not happy, technically them telling her the quality of your work is an issue is them telling her they are not happy. Their fault is not saying it out loud an straight forward...she somewhat also cut them off and spoke over them. She is doing the same here as well. They were not a fit, but unfair dismissal is unfair dismissal. Stick to the contract.
She would not be liked in most Asian work places. Her attitude of arguing back, giving excuses etc not considering how her leave taking etc affected the students and school etc is very off putting.
@@AnnaMuzaza how it is unfair? She was not performing. Frankly, in many Asian countries you can terminate an employee with less than 1 month notice for not submitting work on time and arguing with superiors the way she did. With foreigners the employer can cancel their Pass immediately in Singapore , I know as I hired foreigners. The recordings If played , showing her refusal to cut her nails would be enough grounds because the school,could easily say it is a safety concern. Should she accidentally scratch one of the kids , the parents can sue the school. If the kids were older it would be different but she was teaching very young kids. Also her refusal to listen to feedback and change are obvious in her conversation with Janet. Moreover at the second meeting she was given notice not asked to go immediately.
I am an older Asian-American ESL teacher that taught for 2 years in Korea then 7 in Thailand so I've been in this profession, in Asia for nearly a decade. I pointed out my ethnicity because it came with a lot of racism since I don't fit the look of a "native" teacher since I am Asian. So even before I landed any teaching jobs, I was already up against an uphill battle with a lot of schools. Anyway, I'm no stranger to the ESL industry and dealing with difficult managers and supervisors. And after having watched all 3 parts of your China saga, I will say that I don't think teaching in Asia is a good fit for you, just in case you're thinking of returning to Asia to teach in the future. I think your attitude, thought process and behavior is more suited for perhaps Europe where their culture is more used to strong personalities like yours. The biggest lesson I've learned in teaching ESL for a decade in Asia is that you have to know which battles to pick and when to give up. Not because you're a weak person or a doormat but because for the sake of your sanity and peace of mind. During my 10 yrs of teaching, I was fired 3x. I was so glad I was fired because after each firing, I found much better jobs. I've learned that rejection is not always a negative thing that everyone tends to make it out to be. I am not everyone's cup of tea and vice-versa and that's ok. I honestly feel that the vice-principal was being quite nice when she spoke with you. I'd faced way ruder school personnel than her and yet I wasn't as feisty like you were. I mean I get why you're so indignant that they never officially warned you but Chinese people do not handle confrontations well. And they know you'd fly off the handle if they were to say "Hey this is your warning." They just didn't want a fight with you and I don't blame them. I hope you take what everyone has said in the comments to learn and improve. And if you don't want to, that's ok too.
@@annak2756 well articulated there. She did get the warning in part 2 of the series from Janet. But she was, again, very defensive. Not willing to take accountability and very dismissive. I don’t believe that the VP was manipulative at all. She sounded like someone who was stuck between trying not to get Nolu upset by being direct and also being professional as the school leader. Finally, this is a business. If parents feedback is negative then the teacher has got to go.
Finally, a people with common sense! If you decided to go to another country to work you have to know all the rules and conditions; it’s your responsibility to adjust your character and way of work with theirs. IMHO
I’ve been following this story up close. I think there is a difference between standing up for yourself, and being passive aggressive. At some point I felt like Nolu is actually the “employer “, while Ji is the “employee”. I think in the future Nolu, it’s important to not be “passive aggressive “. And just a little humility and being open to being corrected, may help you a long way in your career. Goodluck x
@OarabileNgakantsi is that why some people , their countries and almost the whole continent can't progress? Because you are too busy trying to fight off being slaves? Is this the standard of work that you find acceptable? She was clearly not even doing the basic
They definitely gave you hints, before they let you go. Also I think it’s imperative to always discern when people are giving you constructive criticism and when they’re just being ignorant to your efforts.(the parents asking for more time to communicate with you.) The thing about Chinese is that they’re naturally hard working people and they really do believe in overtime. So I think the fact that you had issues with voicing out your opinion on multiple occasions, they probably felt like you weren’t mouldable to be what they wanted you to be.😭 Haish Chinese are an issue sometimes.
Yeah they just didn’t like your personality at all sisi 😮often times, competence is not enough in these types of communities. They wanted you to be nice and agreeable and they plotted for you to be fired cause they disliked your independent firm mindset and it was never going to last, just glad nothing worse happened to you. God made a way 🙌
Yeah, that couldn’t be me. I would have taken my paid vacation and happily left. I refuse to come back to a place I’m not wanted. It can create a hostile work environment and get really bad, which it did for her. Heck no, I’m not doing that. My Mental health and happiness is too important to fight for a job I was planning to leave anyway 😂
@@beautifulsoulgirl8683THIS! I can only sympathise but I’m more like you, I would have maybe tried to speak up twice in this meetings, to which I would have hushed 😅and taken that pay and left the country and company, cause I will even get physically ill, if I feel many energies of people who do not want me there 😢I wouldn’t have the stamina to continue working Shem!
Yho, if that's the case, then I'm staying my a$$ the h€ll away from China. If y'all think Nolu is feisty, you ain't seen nothing. I'm so glad I studied tax law so that I could get a good job la eMzansi cause whoa our sisters and brothers are suffering kula mazwe.
She was incompetent. This kind of standard of handing in lesson plans late , constantly being on leave isn't acceptable in Asia. Especially East Asia. The pace of work, efficiency etc are different from Africa. So of not prepared to adapt just work in South Africa.
Honestly, I've spent a decade in China and I have to say your expectations were very unrealistic when it comes to communication. Chinese people cannot be direct with negative feedback, that's a cultural thing. It's so unfortunate nobody stepped in and helped you to navigate those interaction, the whole story could have ended differently
South Africans are very direct, they say what they mean and are explicit when it comes to feedback. Other cultures are not like that. They’ll give you feedback indirectly. You sometimes have to read between the lines. It’s exhausting but you can learn how to manage this over time.
Sadly, I agree that Janet did give you a warning at that last meeting. I also think that during that last recorded meeting you were on the defense and wasn’t open to the constructive criticism that they gave you. In the United States when we are under contract employment, we sometimes have something called a probational warning or write up. This is a warning where the manager and employee must sign a document stating the warning and acknowledging receipt of the warning. It’s to avoid this type of situation and protects both the employer and employee from this type of confusion. This school should implement that. Also, It’s a personality thing. It happens sometimes at jobs where it just won’t workout due to culture of the office and personality clash. I think it has happened to everyone at least once where we leave a job or let go due to this.
I wanted to say this but she is not open to listening or looking at this situation with a different eye. This is a learning experience, I am also learning from it.
@@lira2414 I agree. I empathize with her and understand she is still hurt. I would be too if I was physically attacked BUT I also think her personality is strong. I think there was a huge culture clash and she definitely should take the steps to learn another’s culture before working in another country. I believe her culture may be more assertive, and that’s what she is used to. She would do very well in a more corporate setting. I hope she takes the steps to learn from this situation and grow from it.
@@User989_2 18:51 the warning is verbal in the contract. I literally said that is best in writing but unfortunately in contract law, if it is not stated in the contract, that means it is OPEN to interpretation, and can be argued in court. Never leave anything that open. Sincerely a civil law attorney.
@@beautifulsoulgirl8683 I'm also an attorney. It must be in writing. There is nothing open for interpretation here. If it's not in writing, it didn't happen.
Nolu I have sympathized with your story from last year I even followed it on the news.....but you sound very offensive on this recording no accountability whatsoever and mentioning other people in your argument like "Ovi" really i think you come across as intimidating to your bosses ,even us in our professions we don't react like these, we listen ,take it as it comes and move, and if they want to dismiss you whats the point of arguing even? I admire you Nolu but in this recording you come across as guilty......
I think there are times when you can't take a step back because you are against the wall. No one else was going to advocate for her or cover her loss and there was nowhere near to retreat to.
Nothing against you Nolu, but It's time to let it go and move on. I’ve been watching your videos, and while it’s great that you’re sharing useful information, it’s clear that you’re still stuck in the same place even after being back for over a year. Each time I see a new video on the same issue, I can’t help but think, “not another one.” For your own well-being, it’s important to move on and let go of China.
@@ettchashe has a victim mentality and that is not healthy…people like her need to stop playing the victim and be held accountable for their part as well and even if you aren’t a victim just move on and don’t dwell on the past …that’s why people like her don’t excel like they want because they are stuck on the past …just let go
I had a similar situation working in Taiwan. I quickly realized that they want foreign teachers to "act like clowns". You are there as a teacher but also as entertainment. They expect way more from foreign teachers than local teachers. Basically, your job is to make the kids interested in English. They are also not very direct in their communication. Usually, they just gossip about you instead of giving the much needed feedback.
I have so much to say, but I'll keep it simple. This was a toxic workplace. While many schools have unrealistic expectations for kids, there was a personal dislike towards you. Even if you followed through got those kids to write and read out loud they would still have an issue. These kindergartens in China are often plagued by politics. If they like you and parents like you, you can get away with almost anything. You wouldn’t even need to defend the time you took off for all the accidents. They would’ve posted it on every billboard that teacher Lulu from class three fell and it was the most devastating thing and showered you with support. Moving forward, leave at the first red flag. To those who might say you were defensive or didn't adapt, they won't understand until they've experienced it themselves. I am an excellent teacher and I also worked at a similar place to the job you described. Bwoyyy did they use me in those first few months😭😂. With four teachers in my class, I was doing the lion's share of the work. Luckily, I had the support of my colleagues and parents whenever they would try to undermine me, or come to me about frivolous complaints….plus by then I knew how to play the game. I've lived in China for over eight years. I understand their culture, feedback practices, and expectations. Even if you weren't communicating or receiving feedback their way, you didn't deserve that treatment. I wish you all the best in the future. Next time you see a red flag, run, and always trust your gut. There are lots of better jobs in China, you'd be surprised. And when starting a new job in a foreign country, make a friend who can guide you through the workplace culture and expectations. They can also provide a realistic picture of the job to help you decide if it's the right fit or tell you straight up to run. Sending you healing energies. You're a strong woman. Very strong!"
im from America...no job wud pay me 2 weeks for an accident that happened off of school property. You are fully capable of teaching with a hurt leg, especially with assistance, for which she denied. Dont even get me started on her attitude toward her boss on the audio. Then she posts videos basically insulting their country. Even with the sexual assault, she blamed the country, not the individual. Sexual assault happens EVERYWHERE, disagreements with coworkers happens EVERYWHERE, not just in china and south korea. I apologize for going off on your post lol I loved how positive u were and unlike other posts, didnt insult china as a whole. :) God bless luv
Why stay in their school and fight to stay if you don't want to comply? that meeting you had with Janet, she asked so many times "how can we.... " " how do you think we can improve this... " I felt like you were being defensive in all your answers Nolu, which is okay but you could've toped it up with a different suggestions from how you used to work. Understand its business to them,you do what the parents wants.Your former colleagues also probably didn't want you there. they could've given you a better advice as they've been in China longer than you. I won't be surprised to hear they are still in the same school. You have to be wise when working with non natives in China. But I'm sorry you went through all of this to a point that you had to be dismissed Nolu.
OMG!! this is the craziest thing I have ever heard. Once a company has decided to fire you, it's time to go!!! They had a meeting with her to let her know she was not performing, but she seems to not understand what the prior meetings were. Arguing with your employer is so crazy and why would she want to work in an environment where you are not wanted.
Similar thing happened to me in Britain. Their culture is way less straightforward then mine. When I had a meeting with my manager he literally said he is very happy with my performance and praised me for 10 minutes then made a brief comment about some little things here and there need some improvement but other than that you're perfect. I left the meeting thinking I was doing great then a week later I was put ont a performance improvement plan and if I don't pass it I get fired. When I asked my manager about it he was like ''but I told you those things need improvement''. In my culture if I'm doing so bad they're thinking about firing me I wouldn't get a 10 minutes praise I would only get this: If you don't improve this within x timeframe we will have to fire you.
I’ve been in china already 7 years and best ever! One thing you never go against your contract in china you will loose! It’s kinda logical for them not to allow people taking leave towards their contract
1. I think you were too much in your ego. You had an audience hence why you recorded so you could prove your side. You created the narrative your way then presented the evidence which doesn't quite 🤔 add up. 2. Cultures are different. If you can't communicate (culturally) then you should have had someone speak for you. Because your tone wasn't respectful. She felt defeated. She knew she couldn't talk to you because you were on defense. 3. Learn to read the room. You could have just left your contract if you didn't want to be there but you let your ego run. They bent over to accommodate you when all went wrong. I think you could have taken more accountability and just spoken more calmly. 4. Does anyone deserve to get beat, NO NEVER
They not only viewed you as a liability, but they found you to be problematic because you are very assertive. That assertiveness conflicts with their culture.
I applaud you for standing up for yourself but as for someone who grew up in Asia, and this is not to be mean, you come off a bit rude at times. I think that's why they didn't even want to try. You gotta know when to just let it go or pick your battles because in alot of Asian cultures once you've had quite a combative conversation like in your recordings, there's almost no coming back. Meaning, professionally they will try to still be polite to you, but personally they will despise you. Unless you have a very strong personal connection to them already, it's very risky to be frank and combative. You won't win as a lone foreigner without strong local connections. I'm african and my whole family has worked in Asia, so I know what I'm talking about. I also grew up here so I kind of see why they react this way to you. Even like your nervous laugh when you were explaining yourself (which i totally understand) came off a bit rude and almost like you're mocking them + telling them how to do their job. Another note: unfortunately africans or black ppl in general are perceived as being aggressive here sometimes, so once you give them even a hint of aggression, they will go back to any stereotypes they've had in their mind right away. When I'm with my african friends or extended family sometimes I feel like they are so combative and aggressive but that's just because I've been here so long lol there's just a difference in culture and communication
I am glad she is out of that job/culture and shared her story. One take away for me is that I believe in a prior video she said she assumed things in China would work like they did in South Korea. Those initial assumptions carried through to making other assumptions about how things work in China, with the school, the first warning from Janet, etc.
Take it from me , i also stayed in China for 4years… was in shanghai too… my advice is When you are in Rome do as the Romans do! You were a bit too much my girl! Chinese are just too much to handle but sometimes you just need to humble yourself and know that you are there to make money
@@Y-gq1rxwrong is wrong, on her assult video i really sympathize with her Chinese were wrong buh on this video listening to the audios gal was too much,
Some people say she’s aggressive but I don’t think she was wrong in defending herself but I do agree with your stance that when she’s travels not everything is to her moral standards. Every country is different and I really think she should have never went to China if she values stuff like this. Morally I still think the Chinese work ethic is wrong but I’m an westerner so that’s my moral code.
You should have accepted that they didnt want you and go on peaceful terms then it might not have gotten worse. I would never have argued for them to kept me if they expressed for me to go. This is like a man telling a woman I dont want you and the woman is trying to justify staying. Maybe China was just not for you. There is always better.
But Nolo. I went back to your previous recording. Jeanette did say you must be more active with the kids. The parents did not see much interaction with the student. However she did not say this is. Warning. If she said I must work on being active and called into a meeting. I would have worked harder. But at the same time. I can understand your view in this recording because you want to complete your contract
Wow... I feel like if I was in the same situations and i had the same conversations i would have just left... like the way she was talking to you, the toxicity in the air of this person, and the way she want to put the blame in you, and also manipulate the fact that you dont have the same work right as a Chinese person bc u are a foreigners is insane.... like for real is mind-blowing 🤯 i hope you are in a better place far from this toxic people
Girl you can only talk like this to other Black people. We’re very direct. Your passion, upset and understandable confusion will always come across as aggression and defiance to others! They won’t be able to hear you above their prejudices. I can hear the pain in your voice and am sending you all the hugs. I’m sorry this happened to you. Don’t waste your time arguing with toxic environments and toxic people. Save your MH and your dignity and keep it moving ❤
Janet was Loud and Clear that your work was unacceptable to the school and parents. Instead of listening to her feedback and suggestions you argued and defended yourself. Get off your high horse and take responsibility .
Yeah, I have to agree with you. They were clear in their own way. They were trying to tell her...but she continued to cut them off and defend herself. She has a right to defend herself, but her delivery is very combative. That's why the woman kept sighing...she was probably frustrated because she wasn't being heard. I REALLY wanted to be on Nolu's side 100%, but I can't...not completely. But of course...there is NO EXCUSE for it to get physical. That dude should've gone to jail for that.
Yup, this is exactly how you must behave when dealing with toxic people. You have to be direct or they will try to twist reality and blame everything on you. They did it with the visa thing and then they tried to do it again with the accident. That's probably why you had to resort to recording conversations. To keep tabs on the truth.
It seems like you took SA labour laws to China and you have a defensive personality, which is good but it’s like China is mostly oppressive in nature and it works for them there. You were just at the wrong place, where toxicity is kind of normal it’s their culture 🫠it’s the first time I hear someone refuse to get fired , you’re the real MVP🔥🔥
lived in china for 9 years,studying then working...i think we forget as foreigners that's a communist country no democracy so if you think you have "rights " you really don't and most of the time you have to comply with even things you aren't happy with,anything that's in the contract though you can fight that
I was going to refuse too because apparently they tend to "fire" you towards the end of your contract so that they'll say you didn't work a full year and not pay you your severance.
This triggered me so much because my chinese boss said something so similar to me before I resigned from my job at a chinese company in SA. I almost started crying while listening to that recording! Because they use that soft tone to say the most cruel and offensive things! I’m so sorry that this happened to you ❤❤❤
I had the same experience here in Brussels with my ex employer. And they keep saying that you misunderstand them cause of the culture’s gap.😂 What a big excuse pffff. Respect is beyond cultures. I resigned my contract with them😁. They came to me few months ago to ask me to came back. I Said…Nope😅 and i started my own business 🎉.
Lastly i think you also forgot that they are ultimately a business. You speak of them being greedy with money, how do you think they were paying you? And paying for subs? Apart from covering costs the owner also needs to make profit. Every day you were off you were costing them extra, legitimate or not. Those conversations happen in any corporate. Most employers expect you to be a 'team player' and acknowledge this. You didn't and worse still that you were still new, you hadnt yet in their view, earned your stripes. Even just coming back 2days early would have garnered you some goodwill. Toxic i know but trust me its a game we all play. And im not even in China
I love a girlie that can stand up for herself 🎉..There is nothing wrong with your personality dear infact you're a strong person who knows her rights as an employee. Never let anyone intimidate and pull you down. You remind me of one of my friends she doesn't back down when pushed to a wall...Love and light to you dear.
I feel that "communicatation" is what I get from this. On both sides I see "Expectations" but no communication. Nolu is more factual and wants communication with no "Sugar coating" while the school is more "hints" but not direct. Though I understand whatever level you are in the work environment, there is always making employers feel "comfortable" in the work environment. Even in the US here it's the same, they will give feedback on what to do but not direct saying "your work is not good". At the end of the day the people managing have to follow what their "upper management" wants. This video is definitely a snicky situation and I understand where you come from in a factual point of view. Sometimes I have to learn to ask questions of my improvements, I open up conversations even early meetings asking "is there anything I need to improve on" "is there something that I'm doing that is not up to xyz standards" Just to see if they willing to honest early on and to show that [Hey, they are the type of person who wants factual and honest statement] I tend to play this card with my uppermanagement to show I don't want "sugarcoating. Anyway, this is kind of the norm in most working environment. Gotta play your cards early+
I’ve been catching up with your channel within the last week. Honestly, I dont think you and that school was a good fit. I think you took things personal and didn’t fit into their culture and I think they did wrong things to you because they didn’t like you. I also think they may be used to getting away with doing wrong things and not being challenged.
Were you not listening to Janet? She made it very clear they werent happy with you and neither were the parents. You refused to listen and argued. We heard it on the audio😂 You took your South African mentality to China and it didnt gel well. It is a well known fact that South African teachers are much more laid back, some dont even turn up in class on time. This is the opposite of the more developed world both in Asia and the West. Also preparing lessons at home isnt unusual at all. My mum was a teacher in Malaysia and always did some work at home. My Aunt who teaches in Australia does the same. I am getting the impression that isnt the case in Africa or at least where you come from.
Listening to the video, I just love how you stood up for yourself and they're not used to it. You were working with people that are not in anyway nice to others outside their nation. You are brave as young as you are ❤.
It won't work in developed Asian countries or the West where we expect productivity. Maybe it is different in Africa but so is the development. Fact is she was not performing.
you are not a good listener and very argumentative, I am sorry but it is not professional to publish your discussion with people , I am sorry my sister
But mama they did express dissatisfaction and you weren’t receptive. Also you do come across very condescending and passive aggressive towards your boss in this audio. Either you you did not deserve ill treatment♥️.
@@Nolusindiso_Hleko yes after 10 months babe, anyway my point is they did call the meeting to express dissatisfaction. Since you seemed unaware of that.
I have no doubts that you were in a toxic environment, but everything you could have done to make it worse - you did. Also consider that the school paid A LOT for your work permit and the bribes and fines. If you were so hell bent on doing everything according to the contract, why on earth would you work there knowing they had to bribe the police to keep you in the country? Did you not think that would work against you at some point? I won't even begin to talk about your attitude. If you talk like this to your boss on a conversation YOU'RE recording, we can only wonder how you talk to them when there arent any recording devices. Think of how much money the school spent on having you there as well as all the money they spent on your substitute teachers and you couldn't even be enthusiastic in class - but you can catch an attitude when they tell you they don't need your services anymore. just wow
for some reason i feel you are the problem, it can not always be everyones fault, very defensive, ean i would fire you too if you have that too many accidents i have lived in china since 2013 and never once have i had an accident, you missed so many classes from ur hospital trips
To be honest watching all your videos I think you were wrongly recieved the same way I'm recieving you wrong right now I'm not in a space to recieve you and it's just my world view is different from yours
Omgggg interesting to know that they do things just as shady as US. YOU WERE RIGHT THAT THE MANIPULATION WAS CRAZY AND IT'S A GOOD THING YOU DID HAVE THIS RECORDING. I don't think that she is strong in her position but one thing they are sure about is that they want you gone.
For 9 Months! 9, I never had a single complaint. Not 1 but after I had my last accident suddenly everything was wrong. I knew they would come up with some stuff because they couldn’t exactly fire me for having accidents. And they tried!!!!!
No they aren't shady. Neither is the US. If you expect the rest of the world to be like South Africa or Africa then how will they do well enough to hire you? The African work culture is totally different from the standards of Asia and the US. So either up your standards or don't work abroad.
I’m very sorry to say this but from what you yourself have said and the audio recordings you have given us, it appears you do in fact have a personality problem. Especially in this last audio. You are constantly interrupting YOUR BOSS and being unnecessarily combative. Once you realised the environment was toxic, you should have left. Instead you stayed on trying to prove you can defend yourself in a foreign country with a culture you are not used to. I really hope you have learnt from this experience and do not carry this attitude to your next employment. Honestly, with this, you are actually putting yourself in a bad light with employers.
Abena, you use the word combative to describe this womans defense to lies that were being thrown in her face. She does not display a personality problem, she displays honesty. Saving face is just out right lying to yourself and others.
@@cynthiacater5825 You are absolutely wrong! The people who are telling her that this is good are misleading her and they will never offer her help if she ends up unemployed. She kept interrupting, her tone was aggressive and borderline rude. Even if she had a point, the point was lost in the delivery. She knew what Janet was saying. Janet's discussion was a warning in itself because she told her the issues and what to work on. She argued with Janet, now she is arguing with this other lady. If you are an employer, would you want that type of energy at your workplace?
She really has a lot of growing to do and needs to do some self reflection…..am sorry to say I would fire her too lol 😂 even here in America this behaviour and personality will not work…here they wouldn’t even spend that much time back and forth with you…this actually showed the Chinese are quite patient, really!
I think the school directors were the actual problem. If there were a myriad of people quitting and leaving because of the pressure or from what it looks like poor management, then it was definitely an internal issue. I’m glad you managed to leave. I remember seeing your video circulating on all Southern African groups on the wechat app. Glad you’re safe.
What scares me is how you recorded a video the day you moved into your apartment and your gut was telling you something was wrong. Sometimes God will try and tell us that what we’re feeling is right, which is why you had such heinous events occur not so long after arriving. Yoh Thixo.
@@zandilakes She mentioned "the universe" in her previous video, so I'm not sure if she has the discernment of Jesus Christ enriched in her. Anybody in the faith would have known that this is not something they would have stayed in.
Also China, culturally is very serious about academics and teacher have a lot of honor and respect for what they do and the responsibility theh have to CHINESE children. The bald head (which is totally fine for me, i’m African), the long bright nails (you rebelling), cutting them off when they speak to you…girl not everybody is gonna play with you….and I don’t blame them. In America 50% percent of the population can’t read on an 8th grade level and China is like “NO MA’AM” It wasn’t a good fit.
It will be harder for Africans to get jobs in Asia now after her videos. No Asian employer wants an employee like her yet it seems most Africans unlike you seem to think she was right.
teacher here for the past 8 years in Japan. Yeah you really don't need to be teaching in southeast Asia. From what I heard in the recorded conversation, you personality does not fit to their work environment or that of any school environment in this region of Asia. I understand having a big personality, I also have one but you must tone it down if you want to keep your job. You absolutely cannot be your entire self, you have to put on a face while at work and yes SMILING is a key indicator and if the parents or teachers notice you aren't, they most likely you aren't. If you don't like their rules or how you are being treated then just leave.
Performance Management is a subject matter that most managers struggle with. Sometimes they don't want to give honest feedback because they don't know how it will be received. Contracts usually put an onus on the manager to give feedback, but sometimes is better to set up feedback sessions yourself. That will show them that you don't mind receiving feedback. However, it sounds like they didn't like your personality from the day you landed. Hence they were not even interested to give you feedback.
This is why I work hard so that my kids won't feel the need to work for anyone, especially in another continent. When I left the 9-5 in my late 30s I swore I would never return to that drama, so far cruising nicely, but I feel sad for my colleagues still stuck in that hell. Hope you gain all the experience you need and come back to start your own school or educational institution.
@@Nolusindiso_Hleko Maybe, but I would still encourage them to come back home, there is no place like home, maybe I am old fashioned. I have lived in UK, qualified Engineer, some of my African fellows stayed and were shocked why I left the just days after my last exam. Guess everybody has their own path to follow. No offence but I cant wrap my head around living and working in these big Asian countries, namely China and India because I have seen in person how they treat workers, their own kind.
From what I gather in the audio tapes and watching your videos, I feel you have a misconception of being an understanding person or presenting yourself in that manner.Throughout the videos you come with a defensive tone. Secondly you are interrupting them while speaking and emphasising your view point by force almost. I think as expats we need to be aware of work cultures. The Chinese are not people who speak directly when they call you for a meeting or address a concern that is them giving you a verbal warning. In your previous video you had mentioned that you prepared work for the substitute teacher a day before or before the start of the day. This work practice is not satisfactory and causes problems. When is the teacher going to prep the materials ? Your lessons should be planned a week in advance incase of accidents and so forth. Personally for me we go abroad thinking we are able to teach and we know classroom dynamics with just a TEFL certificate however this profession is deeper than that.
Listening further , I think G was not the only manipulator in this scenario. Here you want them to make an arrangement outside of the contract for your convenience of going home and yet you want to hold them to every letter and clause of the contract. If you want them to be flexible about a clause then you should also be flexible. You cannot choose when you want to abide by the contract and when you want it to be altered for your benefit. You didn't deserve the physical altercation that ensued but you also had a hand in this.
This conversation is so triggering! Girl all I can say is, I could only WISH I stood up for myself the way you did. I unfortunately took all the bull they told me & rode out my contract, but listening to this made me realize this is the exact script they follow when they’re just tryna find a reason to get rid of you.
You were not professional, the way you spoke there was no co sideration of the school, your track record, by the recording we can imagine your body language. Change how you communicate and be a team player they will treat you better even if its here in South africa. This convo had a potential for them to grant you leave days the way you wanted, manner of approach is key
I think so too. I’ve been working in China for 6 years now and this is how they talk. Especially Chinese women. They don’t come out and just say things, they just throw hints and you have to catch them 😅
😅😅😅 yep, I missed that I guess. Either way, what they expecting me to do about accidents? I would understand if I was drinking and getting accidents but nope! I was not. The only accident I can say was kind of me not being careful, was riding a bike in the rain then falling but still an accident
@@Nolusindiso_Hlekoit’s not your job to decipher what someone means so its not your fault. Maybe for me it was easy to get it cause this is how my family is too, very passive and non confrontational 😅
Watching this whole saga I think part 2 was the "warning" part 3 is referring to. You just refused to accept it at that time (understandably so). But for the purpose of record keeping that's what is on the books. The woman in part 3 didn't approach u anymore be because of the back and forth. I think when working abroad it's good to have a intermediary who can advocate on ur behalf and help u assimilate into the culture and the workplace. Idk if Millie could've been that for u hear but I would've let her step in and go to bat with the manipulation otherwise she could help place u at a new assignment b4 things got to this point.
Eish, I’m listening to these videos, I agree with the people that say you seem to have a kind of personality. I would suggest that you actually get a teaching training so you understand how to teach early childhood development (ECD) schools. It really is a personal responsibility issue. I’ve had my children in private schools and so I’ve always demanded to see delivery, period. I think they were too nice to you. I hope you learn from this experience, I think you’re inexperienced re-work and its expectations to deliver.
As a former ESL teacher for 20 years, originally from Zimbabwe and having lived in Greece for the past 30 years, I recognize the significant role cultural differences play in Nolu's experience at the Chinese school. After listening to the entire conversation with Janet in part 2 and this one in part 3, I personally wouldn't be concerned with the issues raised, as similar conversations could easily take place in a school or business setting in Greece. However, coming from Zimbabwe, I can also understand why Nolu had different expectations and found certain things unsettling. To be honest, I noticed many things were off when I was in Zimbabwe too, but that was due to my own expectations shaped by my time in Greece. Living in another country requires adapting to their cultural mindset and respecting it, regardless of how different it may be from what we're accustomed to. However, there are clear boundaries that should never be crossed, no matter the cultural differences, and one such boundary is physical violence. The fact that Nolu was punched by the HR manager is shocking and absolutely unacceptable in any environment. Cultural clashes aside, physical assault goes beyond a misunderstanding or a difference in expectations-it's a violation of personal dignity and professional ethics. This kind of behavior cannot be tolerated, regardless of the circumstances. It indicates a much deeper problem in the work environment and leadership.
We only have her word that she was punched. It is obvious from all her videos that she was the confrontational , aggressive one. The Audio is odd because it didn't sound from the conversation like there was any altercation. Just her screaming.
@@Sunshine-zi4nq she's uploaded a video specifically regarding having been punched where you can clearly see her black eye. I think she's been sincere throughout her accounts of her experience. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qD09gDeCzuQ.htmlsi=xbXSlVYk4u_avoz6
I have watched that video and her others. The tone of the conversation didn't match what she said happened. Apart from her screaming ,there was no indication of any altercation. One would expect an angry exchange, raised voices before someone got hit. She just staged it . I am not fooled.
30:13 That’s the key point. There’s no rule of law whatsoever in China. The whole situation looks and sounds so familiar to anyone with some experience working there.
Nolu, you were very defensive throughout. I feel like you're always ready for a fight. Unfortunately, China isn't a democratic country so a person from SA going there should know that it isn't like SA and the rights in a democratic country are different from the rights in a communist country. What happened to you was sad, but the lady was nice and reasonable, and you know that China is a place to just work and mind your business. I think that there was just a misunderstanding, and also tone. Your tone was defensive, and that could be how you communicated throughout, apart from this video so that's probably why they didn't like you. In conclusions, when in rome, do what the romans do.
Never heard about long nails being a problem as a teacher. I've worked as a teacher for 9 years in SK and never heard of long nails being bad. I've seen other teachers that have long nails too. I no it's a problem in the fast food industry and some other ones because long nails are deemed as unhygienic but I've never heard about it being bad to have them as a teacher.
in kindergarten i guess it can be debatable since it's an "all day school"...training center oh i had my nails and my kids actually liked to see them every time i changed 😂
Janet actually gave you an implied warning in the prior video where you played the recording. But she's passive aggressive and wasn't direct with what she was trying to convey.
So sorry for what you had been through! In China you cannot respond to ur leaders like that It’s just yes yes yes n no self defense or explanation or excuses That’s how they are n expect foreigners to behave like them . So how you character was to them was a no no Teachers in China toil a lot esp Chinese with little pay More work
I think you were right in your concerns by saying they didn't give you a direct warning. However I think the confrontation when it was clear they were deadset on firing you that fighting to stay wasn't the best idea. The workplace would just be extremely toxic and it wouldn't be worth it to fight to stay someplace that clearly doesn't want you there. I'd have gotten my feedback and left after making it clear that you COULD stay because they weren't following the contract but decided to keep your dignity and leave.
Based in the 2 conversations I’ve heard, it sounds like you’re the problem. The difference between you and the other employee that they gave a warning to was how he reacted. They most likely called him and stated their concerns. Just like your last meeting. I don’t think he reacted like you. You’re scary, come off aggressive and pompous. They are clearly too scared to speak with you. I’d fire you too.
@@israeldeleon6630 listen!!!! It’s as if SHE was doing THEM a favour by showing up. When she had that meeting with Janet you could tell off her nervous laughs that she was trying to be nice and did not want to upset her. She is just not receptive to feedback, she’s never wrong and she’s honestly intimidating. I’d have fired her within the first term. A school is a business. Parents stakeholders. Teachers are the product and Nolu was defunct.
Not you using anti-black language and indirectly trying to call her an angry Black woman for standing up for herself. You literally don’t know how that other persons conversation went. But in this case her boss literally said “ you should take better care of yourself” after she got ran off the road and had to take leave. Knowing she’s a foreigner they should have been fully transparent with her stop any miscommunication as the employer … so you can stop trying to gaslight her all over again ✌🏾.
Calling people aggressive and pompous is not racist unless you think that black women are indeed aggressive and pompous. Or just want to justify being this way.
I don't understand why you were fighting for a job you no longer wanted. This was a bad fit both ways and a toxic situation and the solution she gave you was kind of the clean one. You could have dusted yourself off and found a better place. There is absolutely no excuse for the HR punching you and the visa situation wasnt great either but you were also not an agreeable person in many instances. Its important to understand the culture of a place, not just the organisation but the country too, and also to remember what our goals are. I also understand that by this recording, you were tired and frustrated but you also weren't respectful, you are argumentative, you speak over her and worse still you recorded her secretly and have now published it. In many instances you were indeed a victim, but im not sure this recording is doing you any favours. Any future employers that see this may be scared. Not to say China would probably never let you in again.
After listening to this conversation it was not a winning situation. I did not feel anger from the employer instead it seemed like the relation with you and the school was not working out. I don't know how deep the problem was obviously but I do know that small things can add up. I'm an American living in California I think here the employer would have just paid out the contract especially since it was such a short time and let you go. Right or Wrong I would have said my peace, Take my money and left.
I was angry yes and I was angry because for 9 months I worked there and there was never a single complaint; not from them and not from a single parent. Parents pull kids away when they don’t like the teacher, I had the exact same number of kids I when I left. Even during the parents evaluation, they gave good feedback and only noting that I needed to pay attention to the quiet kids. I knew they were pulling a rabbit out of a hat with their sudden „you’re not a fit“ at the end of the semester
Learning “ Alphabets”? There is only one Alphabet in the English language with 26 Letters. Am taken aback you as an English teacher arent aware of this. Btw, it was obvious from what Janet said that you were underperforming .Why did you not get it? It was crystal clear to us listening, are you in denial?
For all who need to know: #1. The contract between the employer and employee is binding. If warnings are given, the employer needs evidence wherein a dispute occurs, which is standard practice in any court. A recorded account, whether written or else, is necessary to qualify as a warning *in court*. #2. According to Article 26 of the Labor Law of the People’s Republic of China, employers must submit written revocation 30 days in advance. For those of you inclined on listening to trolls in a comments section who uses ad hominem attacks and unfettered rudeness as their only defense, please take the time to find a lawyer who knows what he or she is talking about. Sadly, I suspect that there is a bit of disinformation happening in this space, despite Nolu’s honest effort at educating the public. Know the law *and* (not or) find a lawyer who knows it better than you.
Thank you! Many of these people have never worked in ESL so to them it’s easy to say I was warned and should have left. What they do not understand is that if I had left, I also had limited time to pack up and leave the country as my work permit and residence permit would be cancelled. My job had monthly evaluations to evaluate teacher‘s performances. The lowest score I ever got was 93 despite being so „bad“ at my job😂 It is such a common practice in ESL to fire teachers for no reason if it benefits the school financially and I would later find out this was the exact reason why they were trying to fire me.
I think Nolu was being defensive because she knew the type of person/environment she was dealing with. In these type of cultures, they will walk all over you if you are too agreeable.
Wow, wow, wow! I was in disbelief, I kept asking myself if this was a prank or something. How did she think this was a logical way to fire someone? She just kept tryna come up with excuses and contradicting herself. The part where she says that they didn't give you any feedback because the issue wasn't something that she thought you could fix, that the problem was your personality. Never knew someone could get fired because of their personality.
I have watched all 3 videos after seeing you with a black eye. The first one shocked me that they wanted you to pay the fine, but then, when you played the conversation between you and the supervisor, I was a bit shocked. Your supervisor was giving you feedback, yet you became very defensive and gave excuses about everything. Sure, there may be reasons why you didn't do what they wanted, but then, instead of giving excuses as to why, it would be much better to ask how the supervisor could support you in achieving what it is they want you to do. Either they are going to show you exactly what they want or they are going to see that it's impossible. People in the comments are saying it's a Chinese thing- but I can tell you after teaching in the USA for 30 years, it's also a USA thing. Janet tried to tell you how you could improve in the second video, but you weren't that receptive to it. I don't think it's really about the accidents. I think they didn't like your teaching style and the fact that you are not a reflective teacher when Janet was providing feedback. By the way, a warning does not have to be stern. Plus, how can they tell you something when you keep interrupting? I'm pretty sure that you are the one who is being manipulative in this past conversation. The school also needs to learn that feedback should be given IN WRITING.
43:00 then you wanna tell people what you want to do, and expect them to make exceptions for you, when they’ve accommodated you sooo much already. Gurl leave them Chinese folks alone‼️‼️
44:10 Gurl you was really in those people school refusing to leave….when you know them Chinese people do not play about school. Gurl this is really embarrassing.
When you know English u always want to argue even if its unnecessary Nolu just say okay I appreciate the time I spent with you. And then u just leave in peace
Honestly, I would have taken the month notice and looked for another job. With all you went through prior to this recording, I would have gladly left. My experience with this people is have a voice, yes I agree with you standing by your contract, but I don’t think they were with your peace
They literally fired you for experiencing multiple accidents which were not your fault. But it also seems they expected you to not stay home per Dr's suggestion. This lady just didn't like you and she kind of said so, indirectly. Be proud that you stood up for yourself. Sometimes people push you to drop the niceties and this was that case.
