This clip is taken from the Joe Rogan Experience podcast #862 with Trevor Valle ( • Video ), also available for download via iTunes & Stitcher (bit.ly/2e8Py7W). podcasts.joerogan.net
@@patrickmclaughlin61 A theory is the highest point of scientific investigation. Science does not make claims about truth, it makes tentative explanations of the best currently available evidence. Science is constantly evolving because we're are constantly gaining new evidence and information which allows us to gain a clearer understanding of the universe based on that new evidence. You are trying to use a layman's definition of theory to argue about science which is just idiotic. I suggest you look into epistemology, fallacies, and the scientific method because you seriously lack an understanding of all three. The difference between a skeptic and a pessimist it's that the skeptic holds the null hypothesis until the evidence leads him to a conclusion while a pessimist believes the opposite of the scientific consensus with no evidence. Guess which one you are?
@@John-ei4go Because the guy is a lying dishonest piece of shit who is knowingly lying to people to perpetuate his religious bullshit and undermine science.
@@johnathanblackwell9960 but he actually didn't tell a single lie in that video. Everything he said was backed up with factual evidence. See how mad you get when you hear something you don't want to be true being said. Lol
You mean the way he states his position on the matter by asserting dominance and putting the guest in a long and uncomfortable situation that he knows he cannot defend. This bozos responses to the video made no sense whatsoever. Think for yourself people.
Love that this high-profile knowledgeable academic looks and sounds like a foul-mouthed beer-swilling sports-loving bar-brawler who's never cracked a book in his life.
Please lol he didn't convince me of a fuckin thing, count how times he cursed to make his point, that proves that he's getting deeply triggered by the material he's consuming, maybe cause he knows deep down how flimsy the entire field of paleontology is, I swear to God I think the whole field is fuckin pseudoscience
And you don't think they would keep those 'dragon' bones? In the middle ages it became some kind of state of the art for rulers to have some trophies of unicorns and other mythical beings. Of course those were all fake but why to fake things when you can find real 'proof' of 'dragons'? Of course I think dinosaurier existed but the assumption people talked about myths and legends, which was a huge part of their worldview, but completely ignored bones and artifacts that would 'proof' their existance is ridiculous. 'let's worship this stone because when looking at its shadow in this specific angle it could look like a dragon' 'hey I found a huge tooth that could be from such a dragon' 'ah, throw away the tooth we already got the stone, who need more proof' lol
My favorite dinosaur was Triceratops and T-rex. Any time I would see them fighting in books I would be conflicted about which one I wanted to win. I was loyal to both dinosaurs.
The best part about this was Trevor absolutely going off about paleontology employee rights', government funding (lack thereof), and budgeting/sidelining in academia. I had no idea it was this bad out there for people working and studying in the field.
Thomas Jefferson found the bones of an extinct giant ground sloth and mistook it for a lion. Obviously, people found dinosaur bones all of the time but had no idea what they were, or didn’t have the luxury to care.
Yeah, I suppose that hearing someone talking shit about something you have invested so much time and effort to know the right way with such a confidence that it’s insulting can get you a bit pissed up
@@almostfamous2008 It didn’t kill them all, but a lot of larger species died as a result of environmental changes, and other smaller creatures evolved over time to become what we have today. If I remember correctly, it was small rodent like creatures that eventually evolved into whales after an extremely long amount of time, and surviving dinosaurs evolved into creatures like birds. There are creatures like Archaeopteryx that they arent completely sure whether to classify it as a dinosaur or a bird because it is somewhere in between and is an example of dinosaurs evolving to become what we now know as birds
@@wheezer141 apparently it wasnt small rodent creatures it was Pakicetus, a goat-sized, four-legged creature that scientists recognise as one of the first cetaceans (the group of marine animals that includes dolphins and whales) these land mammals would prefer to eat the vegetation near waters edge and would often hide in the shallow waters from danger and they would stay longer and longer in the water
I love this guy. He’s funny and a freakin science genius. Why didn’t we find dinosaurs until the 1800s? Maybe the same reason cavemen weren’t using coal and oil. Why they were using pointy sticks… everything for iron and gun powder existed. Because they didn’t find it yet. Then when they found it they didn’t know what it was or that it was special. Then it took years and years to find out that it was special and why it was special. What does this flat-earthed think? That we were just born with iPhones in our hands? He’s old enough to have seen technology progress… what that just started 30 years ago?
I thought that but then, I imagine him as a kid thinking “wow, dinosaurs! I want that to be my job!” I mean Jurassic park was cool. This is the one academic subject I could see someone like this being part of
That guy having a smartass condescending voice makes it so much funnier, because hearing him talk that nonsense of dinosaurs not existing doesn't just piss him off, but it pisses me off as well.
@@altingashi3927funny how you're saying to grow a pair and become a man yet you're still falling for blatant lies and propaganda and have completely given up your ability to critically think. If being a man means not thinking for yourself and refusing to seek fact then who wants to be that? Pathetic imbecile
Classic video, though its kinda funny to hear Joe talk disparagingly about "unchecked" RU-vid conspiratorial thinking when that's basically become his bread and butter nowadays.
I really have mad respect for guys like these . they are expert in their field and know their stuff so much that what would appear to us normal people as legitimate argument for something but the moment they hear them they are like "you MF " and instantly know that its all bull s#^t.
That's shit that I do to my friends when I know something will agitate or make them mad. It's a lot of fun, you should try it :P "His voice is so annoying" JR: "Yep, let's play some more!"
Exactly. Dude is a overgrown man child who thinks he’s the dinosaur expert because he’s spent years reading a bunch of government funded “facts” about why they exist.
I'm not defending the anti-dino quack job, but as long as there was been civilization there has been knowledge of the planets. Just look at the solar system depictions of the Sumerians.
Do you have any common sense? We're living on a planet. Without even looking in space, you can conclude Earth is not the only planet; not to mention the Sun and Moon.
Nope, he's a little bitch, he makes money out of these dinosaur fairy tales dinosaurs never existed deal with it. When was the last time you found a dinosaur's bone?
Because people get fucking annoyed of idiots trying to fuck with their god damn field with absolute retarded horseshit and claiming it to be truth because they googled some shit. If they could take their fucking dance therapy education and fuck off, that would be great.
Dalton Young y'all to stop believing everything you here just because they have a title on their name...read and research for yourselves and u will find the Truth for yourselves...jus know that nobody likes medicine (truth) and the truth is scary
Duke Mar'quis The thing that sucks, is even she doing your own research, with all the bullshyt out there, how do you decipher what is truth/fact. Unless you have seen something with your own eyes or have done experiments of your own, all we can really form from researching information is an opinion. It's really hard to find 100% of the truth which sucks. This may sound stupid but for example, someone can tell me I was born with transparent skin, but without baby pics, how can I really know. If I did my research and sonehow found something saying I was born with transparent skin, how do I know it's the truth? I mean did my research like I was told to. Just because you did research doesn't mean the research you "resesrched" was true. That's all I'm saying.
I know, it's stupid, but you know what, people probably did find them, but when they tried to tell other people, they would be like, "oh you're just crazy" or try to think of it as some more familiar creature.
@@josephlouwerse2105 We've had myths of dragons for millennia. How is that not at least circumstantial evidence that people did encounter dinosaur fossils?
I heard somewhere that the flintstones takes place in the future, post apocalypse. I can't remember all the reasoning behind it but it seemed pretty neat.
@@MrMaxxwellsHouse The reasoning is that while the Jetsons happen above, the Flintstones happen in the wasteland below, the Flintstones living in the war caused wasteland the future humanity escaped from.
The one instance of people saying a dinosaurs name that is almost always wrong is when referring to Edmontosaurus as it's pronounced like the city in Alberta, Canada from where it is named for.
which makes more sense: A) people DID find dinosaur bones before the 1840s but thought nothing of it because.. ya know, it's a bone... or B) some unnamed group was able to fabricate THOUSANDS of bones, that appear to be authentic, and plant them around the ENTIRE world like easter eggs, before the existence of AIRPLANES.
He really is just watching him like in awe LOL that is fucking great Joe does not care about that video at all he's just watching him waiting for him to explode
lol' It does look that way but I believe Joe was staring at the monitor behind the guy which u can see in this picture if you just Google Joe Rogan's studio images.app.goo.gl/KLQn2uDS4QQxEmyk8 🤔 I'm gonna post this comment on the outside screen too since a lot of people are saying saying similar things 🙃
Trust me you don't, even in a good way he's just trying to rile him up so he can get frustrated and get amusement out of it, a girlfriend that does that is a s*** starter and you don't need that in your life.
yup He looks like an attention seeking person with all that look that he knows people will look at him, with that size helping even more, and he is an attention seeking guy. But still, don't judge covers, of course. PS: But still, an attention seeking annoying fella.
@@eclipsesolar8345 im not being rude at all bro. Just don't understand why he is attention seeking ? I don't know about him so maybe you can convince me that he is. What did he do to deserve that label my friend?
@@Noticing-Enjoyer chem trails DO exists...this guy is a fake TV personality. Show us real data. this clown is completely different from Graham Hancock. This guy says nothing real. He found a whale...and stopped constructions. Trained by whom and for what?
I love how Joe Rogan got an actual Paleontologist to debunk Eric Dubay’s bullcrap! More importantly he is there is redirect the misleading information that Eric Dubay is displaying on the internet
Natives of North America definitely knew of previous life that they found as permineralized stones. They used them as tools. I have many pieces of permineralized trees and bones shaped into tools. Odds are they weren’t aware exactly what it was. But wood looks like wood, teeth look like teeth and a ball joint is a ball joint
This dude smart AF and is passionate about dinosaurs and exercises his god given right as an American to dip his beard in an emptied out KFC bucket full of Mountain Dew.
Gregory Sullivan Please stop doing drugs and listening to Eddie Bravo. We do not date objects using something of a similar age, that is primitive and is only used by loggers trying to eyeball how old a tree is by comparing it to a tree they already cut down, which is just for their own entertainment. How we actually date objects is by carbon dating. In which we find out how much carbon is left in the specimen, and calculate using the half life of carbon to see appropriately within in 1-3 thousand years how old something is.
@Gregory Sullivan No stupid, I actually went to school for this. They had me calculate how old a hypothetical sediment sample was based on how much carbon was left in the sample, and the half-life of carbon. Do not argue with someone that is educated over something you read at Flatearth dot com. Here is an illustration for made for children on the entire process of carbon dating, which evidently you need since you have the IQ of a child. www.sciencelearn.org.nz/image_maps/37-c-14-carbon-dating-process P.S. Since you Young Earthers try to establish legitimacy about your preposterous claims, here is another link covering what you think is the way that all fossils are dated, which is relative dating, and the way that Fossils may also be dated, which is absolute dating. www.fossilera.com/pages/dating-fossils
Gregory Sullivan what the fuck are you saying? You trying to discredit somebody that gave you links that we all know you didn’t look at and went on to trash this guy because you speculate he overpaid for books? Like what? Thats some weak shit to tell someone for going to school no one gives a shit about carbon dating and i already seen you put two comments with the same topic in them as this one so quit being a dick to this guy for going to school
@@cerebralsmash5707 I just put him on mute after he doubled down when I gave him links. I'm not even going to school for Chemistry, I'm a Math major they just had me do some problems for carbon dating in Precalc and Physics. I usually spend between $50-150 a semester on Textbooks anyways and my state has free tuition for residents. Let's see who overspent on what when I'm making $70k starting for a career with a $130k median salary, with extreme upwards mobility. He could easily spend $1,500 at the high end to take introductory courses that explain basic science and mathematics, but he'd rather be a student of the University of RU-vid.
I think Dragons represent mankind’s earliest fears while they were transitioning between tree-dwelling and ground-dwelling. Dragons are like snakes, birds, dangerous lizards and big cats all rolled into one. I believe they represent our natural predators and/or animals that could fuck our shit up while we were still young as a species. But you could be right, too. I kind of like your idea.
There actually ARE theories about this because the geographic areas of the world where cultures developed dragon mythology do, in fact, coincide with either geological areas rich in fossils directly, or else trade routes passed through those areas, such as the Chinese silk road. The Gobi desert in Mongolia is loaded heavy with fossil finds that were very likely discovered at some point by traveling merchants who may very well have collected and sold pieces to Chinese people, perhaps of some importance, while fabricating stories of their origins. Similar theories exist about why there even IS dragon mythology that exists in many different cultures since times before they ever had real contact.
This guys video came out just too early before the announcement of the borealopelta specimen which was found in an oiling operation from a worker who accidentally hit it with a hammer
He acted exactly how I’d expect someone to act after having their profession questioned and sort of slandered. I kind of want to hear an astronaut react to the various theories of space lol.
There is a video like this out there. Its astronauts reacting to flat earthers and one of the dudes just uncontrollably laughs before taking out his phone and showing the guy a picture he took
@Brian Paquin that's the ONE theory I will give any heedence to but just using physics and common sense you can debunk it. All the shadows in all the videos we took are completely parallel. That takes millions and millions of miles of distance from a giant light source to achieve. So unless the studio was about the distance from the earth to the sun it couldn't have happened. and given that computer software didnt exist they couldn't have just CGI'd that in that software didnt exist until 20 years ago. But there is some legit points on why we didnt get there it's just the points for why we did irrefutably prove the video is real
@@monsterhuntervideos4446 1. That's not what they're doing. 2. You think that your straw man is impossible, but you belive in an allmighty being based on a book composed by several primitive tribes thousands of years ago? Are you serious?
