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PALOMA FAITH: WHY MY MARRIAGE BROKE DOWN 

Great Company
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Being a rule-breaker, suffering postpartum depression and experiencing huge heartbreak. Paloma Faith unveils her vulnerable side to Jamie, delving deep into her head and her heart.
Paloma has a distinctly unique perspective on life which shapes her to be the singer-a songwriter and style icon we know today. Emotions flow as she shares her journey through heartbreak, the role resentment played in the breakdown of her decade-long relationship and the happiness she has found through the love of her kids.
The Glorification of Sadness album is out now, listen here: paloma.lnk.to/tgos
And get tickets to her tour here: www.palomafaith.com/live/
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Exec Producer: Jemima Rathbone
Podcast Editor: Ewan Newbigging-lister
Assistant Producer: Gurlina Heer
Booking: Ben Johns
Video: Jamie Gilbert
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@janefarrell4183
@janefarrell4183 Месяц назад
I'm ashamed to say I've been so incredibly judgemental about Jamie and Paloma individually in the past but I can now honestly say they are the most wonderful people. Paloma is so open, honest, articulate, and pure, and Jamie is so considerate and you could see and hear the real interest, passion and understanding he had towards Paloma as a person. This interview was so wonderful, beautiful, such an eye opener and I now have an absolute respect for both. Jamie's interview technique is spot on and deserves all the recognition it can get!!!
@neiltitmus9744
@neiltitmus9744 Месяц назад
I form an image of people before knowing them and this shows to me how wrong I can be and I'm glad I was wrong
@funkymonkey65
@funkymonkey65 День назад
This is the reason we should never pre-judge people especially based on what we see in the media or TV etc, as it rarely the real representation of who they are, the same when you meet people everyday, except for a particular orange dumbo, he's a complete lying dangerous AH
@user-dm1ri5kl2z
@user-dm1ri5kl2z 2 месяца назад
I looked at Paloma Faith as an absolute idol from a young age and I still do. However, to see her open up and be so truthful makes me realise were all the same. What an inspirational woman. She's kind, beautiful and smart. I'm even more obsessed. ❤
@TheSimidog
@TheSimidog Месяц назад
Next to Jamie Lang she's an absolute genius.
@dianalilley4910
@dianalilley4910 2 месяца назад
I love Paloma's no nonsense approach and her directness, and the fact that despite her incredible success she is so humble. An amazing woman
@catinthehat906
@catinthehat906 Месяц назад
The strange thing is if you listen to the early part of the podcast she tells it like it was all an accident and she was working in a bar and never meant to get into the music industry, then later on she confesses how driven and competitive she was, even from an early age. I just can't reconcile those two versions.
@DeborahSmith-jm4fh
@DeborahSmith-jm4fh Месяц назад
Same x
@marksieving7925
@marksieving7925 Месяц назад
@@catinthehat906 She's always been driven and competitive but singing came late for her. Her early training was in dance and art, not music. She's always said that she was involved in a lot of different things, but it was the singing that took off.
@l0ok5ko0l
@l0ok5ko0l День назад
Artists have internal contradictions. Paloma is an artist.
@kennyhanlon3487
@kennyhanlon3487 2 месяца назад
these 2 should have a full on show or radio presenters together amazing mutual respect and chemistry
@victoriousvalentine9779
@victoriousvalentine9779 Месяц назад
I understand what Paloma says about doing three people's jobs. In the 70's when I was discussing women's liberation with my mum. She laughed and said 'what's emancipated about working at least two full time jobs' ( career and motherhood)
@AuroraMeansDawn27
@AuroraMeansDawn27 Месяц назад
I messaged her, after she asked about baby questions. She privately messaged me to thank me. I was really pleased. She really struggled and was so open about it.
@ActPractHort
@ActPractHort Месяц назад
I went to school with Paloma, this interview was wonderful and showed she is still her authentic and amazing self. Wonderful interview Jamie, I stumbled across this and hope you keep up the great work!
@hannahvoiceover
@hannahvoiceover 2 месяца назад
From about 33 minutes in, Paloma nails the life of a Mum. Thank you for speaking up!
@kyliemccarthyk1505
@kyliemccarthyk1505 2 месяца назад
I am sure this isn’t what the Suffragettes sacrificed their lives for. The Maths ain’t Mathing
@Chris-xv2gm
@Chris-xv2gm Месяц назад
She is a morxn.
@daisy4866
@daisy4866 Месяц назад
Jamie, you are a wonderful interviewer. Your listening skills, understanding and empathy as well as your humility and sense of humour are so much more than I had expected. Great choice of interviewees so far and I'm looking forward to seeing a lot more of you in this arena
@hea7055
@hea7055 Месяц назад
Paloma is so engaging and honest and Jamie is a natural at interviewing guests. Really enjoyed this interview.
@KerryHopkins
@KerryHopkins Месяц назад
I'm a former national TV journalist and that was one of the best interviews, that I've ever seen.
@wecandothiswarriors
@wecandothiswarriors Месяц назад
So you write fake news then
@user-yy3zq4kn7n
@user-yy3zq4kn7n 24 дня назад
Oh I actually thought it was quite hard to listen to, I didn’t think he probed and responded very well to a lot of stuff she said. I’m just probably used to listening to other podcasts and comparing. It may be unfair of me! But I just wasn’t keen.
@deborahcoveney8846
@deborahcoveney8846 23 дня назад
Great interview love Paloma
@l0ok5ko0l
@l0ok5ko0l День назад
Yep. Absolute gold.
@StephanieZed15
@StephanieZed15 Месяц назад
She is spot on about the massive shift that happens to a women when you have a child...its a shock to the system, everything in you life, being changes. Such a great interview ❤
@bidbadgray
@bidbadgray Месяц назад
My partner went back to work after our children were a few years old. As a man I didn't realise how much she actually done until I had to do it myself. I'm still apologising. Fantastic interview I've never been a Paloma fan, I am now. ❤
@desyg2212
@desyg2212 Месяц назад
Fantastic, vulnerable and refreshing conversation. We use so many words without actually speaking our truths, and Paloma doesn’t. Her authenticity and humour is wonderful. Great connection and bounce between her and Jamie. Loved it! 💛
@WendyVanamburgh
@WendyVanamburgh Месяц назад
I knew of both these people, but only in a vague way. I have an aversion to so many people who judge based on background. Watching and listening to this by chance has been the most enjoyable interview I've seen in years. I now have a huge amount of respect and admiration for both Jamie and Paloma.
@Threadbow
@Threadbow Месяц назад
Both amazing and funny
@nreynier4373
@nreynier4373 Месяц назад
Ms Paloma, unapologetically honest, warm and fun.That laugh alone us like a warm hug❤
@LBRach
@LBRach 2 месяца назад
What an absolutely amazing, articulate, intelligent,talented woman.
@ronaldadams8218
@ronaldadams8218 Месяц назад
What a breath of fresh air. What a beautiful woman and sounds like she’s a beautiful mum, a real star
@Lisa-km3gt
@Lisa-km3gt Месяц назад
When she says: "It's just very raw, because of the kids", I started crying and I don't even have kids. What a great episode, so much empathy and overall beautiful insight. Love this podcast, absolutely making my day every time.
@miaross1504
@miaross1504 Месяц назад
She’s so right !! Feminism has just forgotten us ! Women don’t get a break we’re expected to do everything and provide. Working a full time Job, keeping the house running, making sure the kids have everything they need. Sorting birthdays,dinners, clothes, parties,school clubs. We don’t get a break and have to put a front on 24/7 if you say you need a break your frowned upon… we’re all burning out….
@Ebanie711
@Ebanie711 Месяц назад
Mothers should stay at home. Barely makes financial sense to work outside the home. Feminism didn't forget us, it ruined families.
@harpsailorharp6716gg
@harpsailorharp6716gg Месяц назад
Not all women are mothers or want to be mothers
@Ebanie711
@Ebanie711 Месяц назад
@@harpsailorharp6716gg Well then enjoy Feminism and work untill you're 70 and die alone without your children around you
@Ebanie711
@Ebanie711 Месяц назад
@@harpsailorharp6716ggThey can thank Feminism for the right to work til their 70 and end their days alone
@hannahblythhammond
@hannahblythhammond Месяц назад
The reason women got equal paychecks was less to do with feminism ...IMO corporations saw an opportunity to pay less to one person (a man back in the day) who had been able to support a family of 4 in a 2 up 2 down home on a single paycheck. Albeit toys/white goods were much scarcer and way more pricey they were produced by workers who could afford stability for home/family and IMO less plastic waste/built in obsolescence is better for everyone.
@deee1776
@deee1776 2 месяца назад
Love Paloma Faith! My husband and my daughter went to her concert last week and were blown away! ‘This too shall pass’ was my granddad’s favourite saying.
@lynpallister6527
@lynpallister6527 Месяц назад
Went to see paloma on Thursday in Manchester, a great performance, at 56 I’ve seen so many artists ,but non compare to the way ,she really put herself out there, raw and true, made me feel alive again.
@shannonhowe9994
@shannonhowe9994 2 месяца назад
I could listen to Paloma all day..she's a beautiful soul ❤
@KellyMcDonough-ri1gl
@KellyMcDonough-ri1gl Месяц назад
Sooo good!! I could listen to Paloma talk all day, she’s so eloquent and compelling.
@lubabmohammad9164
@lubabmohammad9164 2 месяца назад
Such a brilliant chat ❤ her honesty and self awareness is so refreshing
@selena___
@selena___ Месяц назад
Man Jamie's great at interviewing and Paloma is just awesome
@joanneford356
@joanneford356 Месяц назад
She’s so unique I wouldn’t know who to even compare her with.
@wendybeer6955
@wendybeer6955 Месяц назад
No one
@user-ow2ro2ev8u
@user-ow2ro2ev8u Месяц назад
Paloma...some people come into your life to go out again and others come into your life to stay but with both you learn something.
@vickiowens8302
@vickiowens8302 Месяц назад
Brilliant chat. Love, love, love Paloma, and Jamie is such a good guy.
@emma-louiseblackman4553
@emma-louiseblackman4553 Месяц назад
Exactly right about the Mum role....she took the words right out of my mouth that’s exactly how it is ❤x
@victoriasykes5570
@victoriasykes5570 2 месяца назад
Great great interview. Jamie you did such a good job. Great listener and understanding. Poloma thank you for talking about PND ❤ such a breath of fresh air in all areas xxx loved the 8 questions at the end xxx
@Lissy255
@Lissy255 Месяц назад
What an incredible woman. I love her! The perfect balance of honesty, directness, kindness and compassion ❤️
@seeinginthedark4581
@seeinginthedark4581 Месяц назад
Also she omitted to mention the enormous hormonal and bodily changes that happen when you get pregnant. Then you have to birth the child and deal with the aftermath (she does mention post birth depression). Your body changes forever. It's a massive thing. Plus the tiredness and huge responsibility to care for another human being 💖
@Learntarott
@Learntarott Месяц назад
There is always the urge to protect your children no matter what
@Amber-hz8mu
@Amber-hz8mu 17 дней назад
Would love to hear more about her thoughts on motherhood. The 3 jobs thing is so true! As a mum who also suffered postnatal depression and didn’t realise until years after, I resonate with her a lot. She made me feel seen 🥰💜
@AL-mi9gw
@AL-mi9gw Месяц назад
Amazing interview. Great chemistry. It's like pair of 2 best friends taking incredibly honestly about things. Couldn't take my eyes of them both. Well done Paloma and Jamie.
@Mia19836
@Mia19836 Месяц назад
Really impressed with Jamie’s interview style. So important for an interesting, successful interview.
@No1Snowy71
@No1Snowy71 Месяц назад
Wow paloma's raw brutal direct relentless realness & honesty is so refreshing awe-inspiring & courageous, she exposes intimate insights into her mindset & is so generous with her free flowing outpouring of answers & responses. She's off the hook, a true unique one off. There was NO mold & there never will be, she irreplaceable & unreplicatable, she's the one and only legendary Paloma Faith! love her ❤
@irisdanagher
@irisdanagher 2 месяца назад
This conversation really flowed, loved it.
@helencostello1523
@helencostello1523 Месяц назад
Yes I agree after the birth of my second daughter I didn't realise how bad I was until I started to get better nearly 2 years later ❤❤❤
@ttp436
@ttp436 Месяц назад
I am actually glad I listened to the whole of this because I had pre-conceived ideas on how I thought this would go down and I was totally wrong. I wonder if Paloma gets overwhelmed when what she gives out isn’t given back even though she doesn’t want it initially to begin with or that’s never her intention because she has a good heart and just wants to care for people and make them feel good. I once watched an interview with Joan Collins on the Queen Latifah show and an audience member asked Joan what she thought about being involved romantically with someone who wasn’t in the same position financially, emotionally or had the same ambitions and goals as them and Joan, to my surprise, put it so beautifully. When your love you share the pot whatever that be even if your putting more in. If you love that person then you make it work and accept them for who they are and what they bring to the table. It cannot be measured.
@lynnhamps7052
@lynnhamps7052 Месяц назад
Both my sons went to school with Paloma...she hasn't changed a jot and it's wonderful! 😃👍💖
@nickygentle9246
@nickygentle9246 Месяц назад
Good for her for calling out rudeness
@hinaz85
@hinaz85 Месяц назад
Awww same as Jamie said. Slept with my son and daughter in one bed... such bliss!! So blessed. I pray everyone gets to feel that
@keithbarrett9882
@keithbarrett9882 Месяц назад
I think Paloma is very real, very considered and says things that many famous people don't, it's an engaging thing to listen to her and I see why her music and her have that great sound
@Eve181dublin
@Eve181dublin Месяц назад
This was so interesting, I always thought Paloma was a bit ditzy, so love her unapologetic competitiveness/ambition sitting next to the best in class, emulating them, learning from them & then surpassing them. Fascinating!
@emmabicheno
@emmabicheno 2 месяца назад
Always been a fan of Paloma, we should all be abit more Paloma in life. Great chat xx
@cuddles4068
@cuddles4068 5 дней назад
Really lovely interview. Jamie let her talk, explain how she felt. To be the bread earner, the mum, the partner...so much, too much. She is great to listen to.
@lisaroe6096
@lisaroe6096 2 месяца назад
Pure honesty. I saw Paloma in concert last night in Plymouth - great concert. She’s sharp and witty ❤️
@anitahargreaves9526
@anitahargreaves9526 Месяц назад
You lucky thing.
@amandanixon7819
@amandanixon7819 2 месяца назад
What a lot of sense she speaks❤
@nanocorcoran6588
@nanocorcoran6588 2 месяца назад
Amazing , loved every second of this conversation
@duny2
@duny2 Месяц назад
That was the most honest beautiful profound interview I’ve ever seen, the honesty of life bites us all, some of the issues raised we’re so relatable it actually help me. You’ve got a fan.
@donna.h2800
@donna.h2800 2 месяца назад
Saw Palomo with my daughter in Glasgow in 2013 (I think)! She was incredible! Thank you Paloma for being magical in your performance. 💛
@aprilroseruff9
@aprilroseruff9 Месяц назад
Jamie, this is the best interview I've ever seen you give. I loved it. The questions we're different, and it made for a really interesting conversation
@MadcapShambleton
@MadcapShambleton Месяц назад
Kudos and thanks to both Paloma and Jamie for this. I've only watched two instalments of this podcast as a fan of both Jo Brand and Paloma, but crikey I am now a fan of Jamie. He is so adept, so in his element in this forum. These aren't just interviews, they're very personal conversations that we get to witness.
@Madders23
@Madders23 Месяц назад
I have listened to Paloma and we are practically identical. She has explained it so well as to how I feel and not been able to understand why I feel that way. It’s helped me realise I am not unusual and people feel the same. Thankyou for this. Thankyou Paloma. ❤❤
@cherylsutcliffe3109
@cherylsutcliffe3109 2 месяца назад
This is the most incredible interview x
@lyndkent-cl2oe
@lyndkent-cl2oe 2 месяца назад
Love Paloma, her music, attitude & most of all her authenticity.
@clairepickin5928
@clairepickin5928 17 дней назад
Loved this conversation. Paloma is a smart cookie and I love listening to her take on things. Jamie has a lot of insight too!
@joelarama
@joelarama 2 месяца назад
I adore both Paloma & Jamie (fellow ADHD’ers) I really get their thinking. Oddly, we use ‘This too shall pass’ a lot in recovery. It’s such a simple phrase but so powerful when you’re caught in the madness. 🤪
@Karen.L.771
@Karen.L.771 Месяц назад
what an absolutely brilliant interview, Paloma seems to be analysing everything she does in her life, hey girl, you are amazing, you are you, your unique, I do think you put your self down a lot but you has no reason too, with everything in life we endure both sides of a coin, a ying and yang,a good, a bad, a happy a sad, a light, a dark, romance, heartbreak, comedy, tragedy, love and loss, marriage, divorce, birth and death. and the biggest thing we ask ourselves everyday is why??? why sometimes you will find the answer you are looking for and why sometimes you wont, sometimes you just have to let things go, today I have laughed and cried with you, you and Jamie bounced off one another, and you made me howl with laughter when you called Rishi the C word, you carry on lovely lady doing what your doing, your aura is shining beautifully. well done Jamie, I just stumbled across this interview and I am so pleased I watched it, the chemistry you two had was amazing.
@russell_95
@russell_95 2 месяца назад
This was amazing! Felt like I was in the room with you both ☺️ What an absolutely inspirational, talented, funny, clever, beautiful & naughty woman Paloma is 😉🤣💖 & Jamie you are a great interviewer. So natural & the conversation flowed so well! 👏🏽 Absolutely loved this! Just subscribed ♥️
@naomihughes1979
@naomihughes1979 Месяц назад
This was such a lovely chat, thank you 😊
@colcollopy269
@colcollopy269 2 месяца назад
What a fantastic interview! Love Paloma Faith’s viewpoint on a lot of things xx
@igotasay
@igotasay 27 дней назад
She is great company! Intelligent, considerate, kind, caring, brave, independent, talented, gifted and funny....fabulous!
@debianowns4393
@debianowns4393 Месяц назад
Intelligent, introspective, articulate, considered and funny. What an amazing guest and a great interview.
@johnshirley208
@johnshirley208 Месяц назад
I listened to pamola being interviewed and I've always said you know when someone's smile is genuine is when your hear it in their voice. And Pamela you have a lovely smile .
@jennifernnekaford6585
@jennifernnekaford6585 Месяц назад
In bed watching this interview after coming across it by accident and I laughed and cried 😂😂 Love Paloma Faith more now and she’s such an amazing, talented, honest and warm woman 😍 Also seeing Jaime in a new light and I didn’t know he had this in him 👏
@FairySarahandFriends
@FairySarahandFriends Месяц назад
Love her honesty and humour. Really beautiful conversation, thank you for sharing it and wishing you all the best with your fantastic new pod!
@RoseDennis-zk4up
@RoseDennis-zk4up 21 день назад
I never really knew anything about this singer came across this and listened in and really enjoyed the interview . ❤
@tracyatthepurplepad1145
@tracyatthepurplepad1145 Месяц назад
I love her. Shes so normal but so crazy too. Paloma always be you. Xx 😊
@gmdethierry
@gmdethierry Месяц назад
What a beautiful interview Poloma and Jamie. I went through separating from the father of my kids and it took such a long time to find me again. I'm so glad your talking about being a mum and everything you said is so true!!!! Jamie, thank you for listening and open with your heart.
@nainaclayton8298
@nainaclayton8298 3 дня назад
What a lovely woman. Jamie I would love to meet you
@janeleigh8955
@janeleigh8955 17 дней назад
This was a brilliant chat, thank you. Paloma was spot on when she was talking about 3 jobs as a Mum. Spot on
@user-kt6bx2ni3u
@user-kt6bx2ni3u Месяц назад
What an amazing interview. So much wisdom and truth and honesty.
@jannforde9553
@jannforde9553 Месяц назад
Love her... the world needs more Palomas....
@ejc6726
@ejc6726 19 дней назад
What an amazing interview. 2 brilliant people. So enjoyed it.❤
@victoriatinnion4990
@victoriatinnion4990 4 дня назад
I’m not in the best of places with my mental health at the moment but you’ve made me laugh this morning. Genuinely cheered me up.
@hansutrecht6555
@hansutrecht6555 Месяц назад
What a great and genuine podcast. Both Paloma and the posh boy are very likeable and truthful so it seems ❤
@paulahill3936
@paulahill3936 Месяц назад
She is a wonderful human being and when your feeling a bit low just listening to her brightens you up instantly xxxxx
@ericxspike
@ericxspike 2 месяца назад
LOVE this chat! Nice to see two different people from different walks of life connecting ❤
@ellap795
@ellap795 Месяц назад
I thoroughly enjoyed listenjng to both Paloma and Jamie..Paloma is extremely edearing - made me feel very emmotional but also very heart warming at the same time. Im sure she is an amazing loving mum. So sad to hear her marriage didn't work out but she has two beautiful kids as a result. Sending you both warm hugs and blessings.. absolutely loved this podcast ! Thank you 🤗❤❤
@MISSION315
@MISSION315 Месяц назад
This was a great interview extremely interesting thanks 10/10
@handlethehandle7
@handlethehandle7 Месяц назад
Saw Paloma live - so sweet, so humble, so grateful to her fans. Madge could learn a lot from her.
@beckbussell1
@beckbussell1 25 дней назад
Paloma, a totally inspirational woman. Could listen all day long. Amazing , thank you. Just seems so honest and so real x
@christopherevans5816
@christopherevans5816 Месяц назад
I have always liked Paloma but I thought she was ditzy in a nice way but watching this has made me realize actually how intelligent and witty she is. Jamie has managed to bring out Palomas soul intelligence and Wit. You dont often see famous people being so willing to be open. Paloma is still heartwarmingly ditzy but I have seen such a driven intelligent lady here😊
@teresaevans993
@teresaevans993 Месяц назад
Paloma is so open & honest in this interview..I took my husband to see her in concert in cardiff few years back & he was dreading it BUT he thinks she's fantastic now because of her personality aswel as her singing ❤ we all love her Xx
@PrincessBindi7
@PrincessBindi7 Месяц назад
Aww you guys, the start of a lovely friendship I hope, i'd love to see you two do more podcasts together. Paloma I love your blunt and honest sense of humour, it's fantastic!! I'm not a parent but your doing an amazing job as a hard working mum & balancing the life of being an awesome artist.
@brockit79
@brockit79 Месяц назад
Many things strike a chord with my life and love - heartbreak credentials. Paloma Faith rocks.
@user-ux6ir5rw5w
@user-ux6ir5rw5w 2 месяца назад
Wow! This got me amazing listen ❤
@dawnkinghorn2251
@dawnkinghorn2251 Месяц назад
I love learning about what people are truly like and Paloma is everything I’d hoped for. Her music is fantastic but so is her honesty. You did a fantastic job J 👍
@jacwagin
@jacwagin 2 дня назад
I can hear so many new lyrics from this interview. After the heartbreak comes the light. Well done both of you. Amazing, raw interview
@angelamouland8012
@angelamouland8012 25 дней назад
What an incredible interview. She is just amazing. Honestly and unapologetically honest and raw.
@poppyparks926
@poppyparks926 2 месяца назад
Loved this pod! Paloma speaks so much truth on working mums.. this was my ‘me time’ and I needed to hear it! ❤
@yelookgreat
@yelookgreat Месяц назад
Paloma, such a refreshing perspective. Thank you for sharing. Can't wait for your tour. Also, slowly changing my preconceived ideals of Jamie..... interesting perspectives. Watch out Barnett.
@Fireflier71
@Fireflier71 2 месяца назад
She reminds me of Toyah
@sandracooper3819
@sandracooper3819 2 месяца назад
She reminds me of Barbara Windsor ❤
@neiltitmus9744
@neiltitmus9744 Месяц назад
The voice does
@buleberryjam177gaming7
@buleberryjam177gaming7 2 месяца назад
Love Paloma, believe me your relationship will evolve over time and you will find each other again. Having young kids changes things in every family but it gets so much better.
@carolclarke5839
@carolclarke5839 Месяц назад
This was wonderful Jamie, such a great talk with Paloma ❤❤❤❤
@danielaiovine6631
@danielaiovine6631 Месяц назад
What a spot on wonderful name for your channel. Lovely to see the many layers of you, Jamie. I’ve always liked Paloma - I agree, wow she’s quite hard on herself - sometimes the best people are like that 💕🎩💕🎩
@fionamii9498
@fionamii9498 3 дня назад
i loved this interview warmed my heart, paloma give yourself a break xxx big hugs
@lesleyanderson41
@lesleyanderson41 Месяц назад
What a fantastic interview!
@laura37ish
@laura37ish Месяц назад
Outstanding podcast 👏 Paloma is very real & grounded !! NEVER change lovely lady.❤
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