Palpatine's Point of View Anakin Skywalker (CANON) 

I'm really getting tired of Disney messing up the mythos and lore star wars but I love when you do these videos. you should do grievous

“Killing the younglings, HIS idea. Thanks” -Scheev

I like how his point of view about Anakin killing him is the perfect summary of how episode 9 butchered and completely undermined the weight of Anakin's sacrifice. He's basically saying it out loud: "the fool died for nothing because i was going to return, he didn't destroy the sith". So much for the prophecy.

Palpatine says that he's anakin's equal because it's from his POV; his hubris clearly shows

One thing I keep considering, and because I was of that generation, is the advantages and disadvantages of Luke and his father. In the realm of Nature versus Nurture, Luke had more ingredients to go very Right. Anakin was skiing uphill from his slave origins on up. Everything that could be thrown his way was. Luke, in contrast, was a kid with promise in a fairly basic upbringing. For Modesto. Lot of Lucas in Luke. His life was sleepy, waiting to be woken up. Anakin was awake from day one. Trauma is the difference.

It’s ironic, a lot of time premonitions were a warning of the future, and that you can prevent it before it happens, in Anakin’s case he did not have to do anything and if he ignored the premonition his wife would not have died.

STAR WARS CANON Palpatine to Anakin: “YOU killed ME in ROTJ!?! Did NOT see that coming.”

We need a Palpatine series of his rise in the dark side and becoming a sith. Make it a darker series because we know how ruthless he was. It would be awesome to see the darker side of Star Wars (pun intended)

If this is Sidious’ point of view. As a dark sider he is simply being arrogant when stating anakin is his rival, instead of admitting he will be more powerful

Anakin/Vader while he was dying, was ready to learn how to become a force ghost. The Force regardless alignment is about understanding your emotions and willingness to embrace those emotions and willingness to learn that force ability.

Interesting. Here’s my take on this book, of which I will explain using this book as it is (allegedly) made in-universe, similar to Luke Skywalker’s Secrets of the Jedi (and other Legends books such as The Jedi Path and Book of Sith respectively made in universe) While there’s no doubt some contradictions in this book, don’t forget: this is a book made by the Sith for the Sith. Deception, manipulation, and treachery are amongst the most powerful traits a Sith could have. Whereas Force Lightning could eradicate a dozen or so adversaries unfortunate enough to be caught in its deadly arcs, a Sith is able to subjugate an entire populace through deeds that aren’t always out and center. Point is Sidious is the ultimate master of subterfuge and a skilled manipulator. To believe everything he says as gospel is to be taken with an entire salt mine from Crait. While Plagueis understood the concept and prefers immortality through physical/scientific means (ie manipulate midichlorians), Sidious has come across this knowledge (in legends from Cronal, aka Blackhole from early Marvel comics; currently unknown in canon) of transferring his Essence to a different host. In regards to Skywalker, he was Palpatine’s favorite tool to manipulate: by acting as a kind fatherly figure that rivals (and then supersedes) Obi-Wan Kenobi, he has done much (with seemingly so little resources) to not only groom the Chosen One to become his next apprentice, but one that is worthy to carry on his legacy. Hence why he told Yoda “Lord Vader will become more powerful than EITHER of US”. What better way to depose of your greatest rival in the Force than conversion to one’s cause? It’s a tactic that both Jedi and Sith has used over millennia in one instance or another. And again, Palpatine isn’t known for his stark honesty, nor does he believe that he should ever be replaced (with the exception being Vader pre-Mustafar), hence why when he teaches his apprentices (and other acolytes) it is given in bits and pieces, never a complete package, one that shouldn’t be taken as gospel. Even his gatekeeper of a few Holocrons (like the famed Telos Holocron) isn’t above manipulation and deception with his point of view. So whatever Palpatine says in the book Secrets of the Sith that seems contradictory, that’s his deceitful nature coming to the forefront.

1:45 The light that never left Vader, in my opinion this is the real reason why Vader was never able to achieve his full power. Not from damage to the flesh, but damage in the heart and mind. He never embraced the Dark Side like Palpatine. It’s a mindset Vader was evil but not as much as Sidious, that guy was a complete psycho. I believe that’s why Sidious wanted to replace Vader with Luke, he is Anakin’s son, he inherited a lot of power from his father but he doesn’t have Vader’s personality issues so he might just be able to fully embrace the Dark Side unlike his father. 10:50 Annnnd, NOPE!!! Anakin destroyed the Sith and that old evil was gone for good, Ultimate Balance is returned to the Force. Hurrah!!! Though is Palpatine were to return as a threat, they should do it in a way similar to Reverse Flash from Suicide Squad Hell to Pay. In which he is already dead but running on fumes to try to keep his consciousness attached to his dead corpse in a desperate attempt to find a way to cheat death and return only to fail in the end.

Considering it's Palpatine's point of view it could also be skewed to his perspective as well. He considered him a rival, though Anakin had the potential to be stronger than him might mean he knew how to manipulate him thus making him also weaker in his eyes. The omitting of any meeting in the Kenobi show could be explained as "it was just written before that decision was made" or that it wasn't as significant to Palpatine as Obi-wan's death.

Anakin was hitting up his DMT at the end, he had plenty of time to learn how to become a force ghost. Time doesn't matter when you step into another realm, even if only momentarily

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Just wanted to say I think you have the best Star Wars channel on RU-vid. I really enjoy your creativity, your different perspectives and your passion. You do a great job bringing to life the various stories from books, comics and other sources. Unlike many other channels you narrate your videos very smoothly and naturally. Your total presentation is really fantastic. Thanks so much for all your efforts.

2:42 Palpatine when he’s all alone with Yoda: You will not stop me. Darth Vader will become more powerful than either of us! (Being Honest). Palpatine when writing his memoirs to the Galaxy: So… yeah. No no guys Vader and me are rivals. He’s not more powerful. Why would I ever say his potential dwarfs mine. Nothing can beat the Sena- oh wait, I mean Darth Sidious!

Very insightful as always mate! Loved the reasoning behind Palpatine and whether or not he did plant those seeds so to speak in Skyguys mind. Very interesting to consider if it was indeed the will of the force. Much to ponder on (I sound like Yoda). You're doing amazing things for the community and I am a keen admirer. Have been for some time. Hope you and the fam are all well my friend.

This was a great experience. You are a good storyteller.

I played Vader‘s Immoral and it was so fun I am so glad that you brought it up in this video

2:44 I think it's Palpatine's arrogance here. Darth Sideous isn't exactly known for his trustworthiness or his humility is he?

Luke could also see the future, like in the episode V, when he is training in dagobah... I think that's soo cool!

i always felt like anakin became a force ghost because he is the chosen one so and he could pretty much do anything, but this is probably more accurate lmao

This was a great video. Well discussed. It'd be cool to see more videos correcting misconceptions you keep seeing. Example: 4:06

it'd like to see a show in a parallel univers, where Vader doesnt get crippled, tries to overthrow the emperor, but fails and now the emperor is on a hunt for him and he has to team up with yoda and obiwan or stuff

Wow this is a great video man. I always wondered what he thought of Anikan

Been following your channel for many years , I think not long Fter u started it and I have always enjoyed your take and content. I Turley miss the Legend content the new being so hit and miss but you always pull me back can't wait for the new bobba fett show and kanobio show

Love the videos. Keep it up :).

This is the first Star Wars channel I've found where the narrator (you) doesn't have a weird robotic inflection in their voice. Thank you for sounding like a real person... jeebus chripst.

Honestly, I'm really getting tired of Disney messing up the mythos and lore of Star Wars but I love when you do these videos. I still love your videos and enjoy hearing your lectures. lol You should do more of Legends continuity, Theory

Honestly, it doesn't sound like contradictions to me. If you look at Plageius when he was younger, sure I could see him thinking that Essence Transfer was a myth, a joke. But in his elder years? He could have had second thoughts about it. Plus HEARING of a thing doesn't require that the person knows how to do the thing, merely that it exists is enough. The Force allows for TONS of abilities, Palpatine experimented as did many other Sith before him, an he was well aware of this. It doesn't matter if his master thought it was nonsense, it only matters that he mentioned it. Just an example - You can hear of a religion, but even if the person you heard about it from sees it as nonsense isn't enough to tell the person it's confirmed nonsense. As for Anakin's power. He said his power rivaled his own, WHEN ANAKIN WAS FIRST DISCOVERED. All Jedi & Sith powers have to be nurtured and strengthened. He may have had COMPARABLE power when he was younger, but as we all know, once you train yourself & strengthen those best parts of yourself, you become stronger. Basically, you're looking at it from a single time viewpoint. You can say you liked this person BACK IN THE DAY, but now you hate the person. Saying you liked them is not a contradiction. Past Tense. As for "Balance", the funny bit was is that the Jedi did NOT promote Balance. The Grey Force Users were more Balanced than the Jedi, even Mace Windu was more Balanced cause he had one foot in the Dark Side. Balance is Neutrality. Good is a side, as is Evil. Neutral is in the middle. Balance has no side. Anakin DID bring Balance to the Force. The Jedi were simply deluding themselves by thinking they were balanced, when they clearly weren't. Just cause Anakin wasn't the Jedi's idea of the Chosen One, doesn't make them right, it simply makes them ironic fools.

Since it's Palp's POV, I think that line was a combination of hubris and retroactively re-writing history for any readers in the future. By that I mean he would want someone 1000 years from that point to think that Vader was always destined to be beneath Sidious- "The HEIGHT of Vader's power is where I am now and I'm still growing so you see how much more grand I am as a Sith? The man who wiped out the Jedi, the enemy no Sith has vanquished, is my inferior!"

Kinda sucks that the Darth Plagueis novel isn't Canon anymore. I wish they would make a movie of vader from the comics.

It seems like Palpatine wanted Anakin to overthrow him, due to his statement to Yoda in Revenge of the Sith. Honestly it seems like Palpatine wanted to see the rise of the Empire and it's construction get underway, then pass ruling over it to Anakin, when Anakin challenges him. I think he saw Anakin as a better suited leader due to how Anakin wanted to make and shape his world, and Palpatine saw that vision in Anakin as great potential for leadership and management of an entire empire.

While I too believe that Anakin would have eclipsed Palpatine in terms of power. But perhaps in Palpatines mind there is no one stronger then himself. So what Palpatine says, is true “from a certain point of view.” 😂

Wow I always heard Palpatine say "Lord Vader will be more powerful than I ever was." So I assumed that he was speaking about Vader eventually using the Dark Side to his full potential in the future if he (Palpatine) were to fall in battle to Yoda. Makes sense considering how emerged in the Dark Side Anakin was and how powerful he became in such a short time. But now knowing he says "Either of us" makes me want to go back and rewatch the movie just to see if makes that scene feel like a weird Mandela Effect. Thanks to you I learned something toady. I love your videos and have followed you for a few years now. Keep up the great work.

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Nice vid!

I wish you would’ve put a link to the comics video you did. Great video though SWT

I'm considering membership here. Long overdue but I've only seriously engaged things like this channel recently. Theory's examination always comes with perspective, but he lets much Star Wars work be its own because he fundamentally sets out to enjoy one more element of this galaxy, far far away and... you know. Thanks. The lore here. The recent Darth Vader comics fudged some ideas of Shmi's pregnancy and what role Palpatine had in Anakin's inception. It was a page that went nowhere, in my opinion. And it really didn't need to. How far do you want Palpatine's mechanations to go? Dude thinks ahead. Period. I am going to say Plaguius and his meddling in the Force should be canon again. THAT was a thick idea. The idea The Force itself, dark and light, smacked back and frelled up Darth Plagueis, and by proxy his apprentice. Their over ambition was their Achilles heel.

You gotta be careful comparing canon material to non-canon material. At best, any such comparisons are novel thought experiments. That’s it. I still fail to see why people heap so much blame on Disney for not accepting novels like “Darth Plagueis” as canon. Disney purchased LucasFilm, which never recognized the EU material as official Star Wars canon. I was a little surprised that the film novelizations were [not] regarded as canon. But, I can understand that policy, seeing how “Revenge of the Sith” novelization tells a significantly different story from the film. As far this book goes, the writings of Darth Sidious do not contradict canon. There are his own personal thoughts. If he believed he was the most powerful being to ever wield the Force, then so be it. After all, he did have “unlimited POWER.”

I haven’t read that book from what you said I interpreted that Palpatine was referring to Anakin as a rival post Mustafar. So before he got chopped up he had the potential to be twice as powerful but that was cut short due to his fight with Obi-Wan.

I love this video so much.

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Lucerno’s “Darth Plaguies” is more Canon than anything Disney has done , aside from the Filoniverse

I am glad you pointed out that essence transfer part and showed Revan. Disney really needs to make legends canon again because it is the only way to line the stories up. Think about how much Revan and Malak had to offer in terms of story and lore.

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LOVED r the 2hr vader chronological comic video u dine .I watched it last week. Any chavcebyiu could do some more.

Cool video.

This book seems awesome! Can't wait to pick it up!

Around 4:40, it's a super interesting way of seeing Revenge of the Sith, that it is the will of the force that Padme die. Ie, that is the inevitable future that the force is steering the galaxy towards, and that the truth is that yes, only sith teachings can save padme, because only the sith are willing to impose their own will onto the galaxy in opposition to the will of the force.

You are partly right here my friend and you know it! Yes Anakin had the ability to see into the future, but he didnt really know if its true or not. It was a fight within. Hence why he was in overthinking mode in the jedi council, before he went nuts to save palpatine. So yes, he could see into the Future, but Palpatine was the Catalyst.

I think it doesn’t recognize that Anakin’s connection with the force was stronger than Palpatine’s precisely BECAUSE it’s from Palp’s point of view. His arrogance would never allow him to say someone else is his greater.

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I bought this book the same day that it came out, great book with many interesting facts

Essence transfer was always an ability Palpatine had despite The Darth Plagieus novel. The Dark empire Series clearly established that and the fact they repeatedly mentioned this incident in later legend novels shows this was established Sith Power.

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Hey Theory. I have listened to Samuel Kim Music and I think you should react to his video of Order 66 if you haven't already. The Two steps from hell version. I really like that version more than the one that was shown in Revenge of the Sith. You will get goosebumps when you hear it. Great videos, informative and entertaining at the same time.

I just finished clone wars for the first time yesterday, pretty powerful stuff

was really good can't wait for the book

Thank you for covering this for those who don’t have time to read or money for the book. Especially your videos on the comics. Questions: Vader mourns Padme yes. But does he also mourn the child he believed to die with Padme? Also while she carried the twins did he not feel them in the force? Wouldn’t he “hear” them? Maybe he heard one but the other somehow hid?

What if the Force was warning Anakin that as long as Palpetine was alive Padme would never be safe? I like the fan fictions that say Anakin could have stayed in the Light.

I pre-ordered that book... Still waiting for it 😢

Wow 3 Million bro that is crazy! I still remember before you hit 1 Million. Gives me hope that I can get some subs one day once I make some quality videos lol.

💯 Agree with you General Theory about the author lol don't think this is going in my heart and head cannon ❤️ Regardless Thanks for covering it man

Hey Theory, I have a question. Why when Anakin died, he didn't vanished like Obi-Wan and Yoda? Great video, as always.

3:38 Yeah but saying that they failed to consider what brining balance to the force could truly mean is also false. Mace and Yoda were skeptical about Anakin from the very beginning

Palpatine is a badass

Always like the idea that Darth Bane lived on. I like that it was left open to debate for so long.

10:07 I think the writer just doesn’t know what happens in the Kenobi show

1:09 It didn't matter to George Lucas either. 2:37 Palpatine is either speaking here in the original trilogy or sequel trilogy era here. Because Vader have lost most of his Midi-chlorians (which also George Lucas reveals) After losing all his limbs to Obi-Wan. 7:26 I'm sure it would have looked as goofy as people dislike Leia using the force in space retaining enough consciousness pulling herself back into her ship in The Last Jedi. 9:52 The dual likely is more than a physical duel rematch. 10:55 It's a shame we didn't get the actual quote from the book of what happened and is just abbreviated.

I kind of like the inconsistencies because it is from the emperors point of view. And someone that powerful in the dark side wouldn’t be completely truthful.

Where is my hair? Is it safe? Is it alright?

In this case I think the term "obsidian" was merely used to describe the colour of Vader's armour, not the material. I don't know if it would be the same in STAR WARS but in our world, using obsidian to make armour would be crude and impractical and I doubt it would be very protective. I think (in Legends at least) they mentioned Vader's armour was made of a combination of plastoid and a few other materials, the same as Stormtrooper armour.

I say it pretty much fits very well with everything we saw in the prequel trilogy and original trilogy

i really really want a tv show where it’s just about earth vader, what he was told to do, what was going thru his mind, how he is going to get out of it etc.

We really need an AU where anakin doesn't get burned. I know you've made videos and there great. I guess the fight can go on till palatine arrives so Obi-Wan runs never letting anakin get burned and such

Is there a sub Reddit that has updates on these book releases? I’d like to stay in the loop of things with these

There needs 2 be a secrets of bounty hunters & clones book with Rex talking about his point of view of things & Boba talking about his.

just realised that the image used in 0:38 in the background the the foreground is the silhouette of a face

i accidentally clicked my arrow key so it replayed. it was the very beginning of the video, theory made a cool sound so i just kept replaying it & all i gotta say is if theory ever wanted to make some mashup music or something he would destroy. that was so fun just laying down a beat & every once & a while he says hey guys. maybe someone who sees this will think its dumb & thats fair but it was soooo much fun lmaooo. theory music lesko

When will you do part 2 of what if ahoka was at the jedi tample during order 66

Star War theory do you break down fan made films I found a awesome one here a jedi uses different forms but I can't tell which forms when I wonder if you could break it down?

If Anikan wasn’t burnt or lost his limbs do you think Palpatine would treat him like an equal and not a slave? Would love to see your view!

3:30 what is mace windu holding??

:57 wasn’t bane the last one to know about it? It’s like a whole big point of the bane novels

When confronted with visions of the future, do not focus on how you can prevent that future, only on how you will deal with that future.

9:36 until another ghost from his past returned to haunt him. I think this is Obi-Wan Kenobi considering that it mentions how he redeemed his past failure by cutting down his former master right after that and how it doesn't mention Luke until after it talks about Obi-Wan. Just my two cents, though.

With how much they retcon stuff from Star Wars books, I wouldn't be surprised if they retconned this one to say Kenobi and Skywalker did meet again. The way Ewan McGregor talked about it on the sizzle reel seems almost certain that they will meet.

IT'S UNFAIR

I saw the "his power rivaled my own" was him referring to him as a child, and old Palpy boy at his current age, not him at full power

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Is there anything about Savage Opress in the book?

Theory; Plagueis had been working on parthenogenesis by purchasing hundreds of indentical female humanoid subjects from the Hutts attempting to convince the midi-chlorians to create a zygote, asexually. He believed that the male offspring could have a midi-chlorian count as high as 20,000, if he were to mature naturally. Much higher than any Jedi or Sith in history. Though Plagueis notes that the tests were always wildly unpredictable, and that he had all of the subjects disposed of. Luke’s comment on it is also interesting. This is in ‘Book of Sith’, in the Plagueis notes section, under ‘Concentrating the Force’. The Plagueis novelization states however, that while his tests subjects all failed and that the Force had retaliated against him for his efforts. He understood immediately what the deal was when Palpatine informed him of the disturbance in the Force around a boy that he had just met, Anakin. Plagueis knew that this slave boy from Hutt territory was incredibly strong in the Force without having met him and what that meant. I know that these books fall under Legends. But ‘Book of Sith’ is one of the few that is still being printed, and one the fewer to bear the Disney trademark. What if originally in the new canon, the idea was that Rey would’ve been either Shmi’s sister or Anakin’s lost and unknown sister (just as Luke was originally going to have a lost and unknown sister) or Anakin’s cousin or maybe (more convolutedly) the daughter of that woman? Perhaps Rey was taken on a ship that’s hyperdrive malfunctioned just before it entered and got stuck at near light speed? What might have been a week for her on that ship, might have been several decades for everyone else.

This is the first time l hear this about Darth Pleadge the wise & Anakin Skywalker known as Darth Vader in Star Wars The Sercet of the Sith

Man I ain't gonna lie manly for personal reasons I can like I said on a personal level relate to Anikan all through the years I went from being all happy positive to become someone I didn't notice basically pushing most of not all old friends and loved ones away but as obi wan and Yoda eventually did for him the true ones that matterd once I not just sobered up but became opened up to only the true ones stayed till then end

that was great

Question: should dead Anakin disappear from within his suit as he leans back against the ramp and dies? Should that be another Special Edition fix?

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