Panasonic G85 vs Sony Full Frame: Micro 4/3's Secret Weapon For Shallow Depth Of Field!

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Can micro four thirds camera achieve stunning blurred backgrounds and compete with full frame Sony cameras for video? Sony a7iii may be the best video camera feature wise, but it lacks the controls and usability of even cheaper Panasonic models. Let's compare different fast aperture lenses on micro 4/3 cameras and see if they match the bokeh of full frame! Testing the Panasonic G85, GH4, comparing it to Sony a7s ii, a7ii and the apsc Canon 80d, as well as my old Canon G7X for shallow depth of field with micro four third cameras vs full frame and aps c.
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@tingledom 4 года назад

It is so great to come across a channel on RU-vid that is not obsessed with just yelling about everything, and can just sit back and have a nice chill conversation about things. Loved the vid.

@CallMeChato 6 лет назад

No other camera matches the features and price of the G85. Keep the kit lens, it’s great, sharp and versatile. And a great bargain. Then get the Voit. The IBIS works better at 1080. Some cameras shoot nice 4k but terrible 1080. The G85 shoots amazing 1080. If you’re out vlogging shoot 1080. When indoors shoot 4k. One final thing about the G85 that no one talks about is it has a good preamp and a limiter. I yell a lot so that’s key for me. One final thing. It’s almost 2 years old. A new model might be coming out soon.

@Мойхозяин-о2н 6 лет назад

Canon m50 beats G85 at 1080p with insane AF and nicer colors. But 4k on m50 sucks as hell

@buildingsheriff 6 лет назад

Dude, your presenting style is classic! I love it.

@PeekCar 3 года назад

I'm a really serious person, and I hardly to laugh, I watch a lot of camera review with a fucking serious face, but your review, make me laugh, hahahaha, DAMN Man! good review.😂😂👍

@Chuck8541 3 года назад

Omg, Casey. Your VOICE! This was only 2 years ago? You sound like a teenage girl...who’s also a part time photographer. I’m glad you finally hit puberty in your old age. Going through your old vids, is always a gift. Keep up the great work, and thank you for the much needed laughs. 🙏

@sharingtheadventure 3 года назад

I know this is an old video but you did a great job going through those cameras and lenses. Keep up that funny shit

@JoeyAtilano 6 лет назад

It's magical, but you pay for it. With money. Great video. I just sold my a7s and waiting for the A7iii.

@G24-f6x 5 лет назад

Good move

@KimchimanInSeoul 9 месяцев назад

I have watched this over 5 times. This is a comedy channel. 😇🤣

@TechLineHD 6 лет назад

Awesome comparison. Great personality!

@IrwinLawsonPhotographer 6 лет назад

G85. Owned it for over a year. Great travel camera - light, flip screen, stable as f....k. Found the 7-14mm Lumix to be my best outdoor workhorse lens. Love your style, go for it.

@rickved 2 года назад

GH5 here. The world can keep the new GH6. I don't need all those new features for youtube. Not for $2200, anyway.

@albertoflores3688 5 лет назад

Hilarious man, I love how this is a real personal review! and not some random person joyfully yelling at me their opinions and full of affiliate links to stuff they dont even recommend and just talked trash about haha keep your style

@m0nztam0nk 6 лет назад

“None of that kit lens shit...” made may day 🤣

@canucklehead28 6 лет назад

You've got talent . Keep it up. I look forward to the next post. A fan.

@SuperSuperka 3 года назад

Is someone here from 2021year? Came here to see this talent in the past.

@JsGarage 6 лет назад

Dude love your videos so true but so fucking funny too!

@thepatternologist 6 лет назад

Man you're killing me, funniest camera review channel ever! :))

@jaychoi4054 6 лет назад

I really like your sarcastic humor , keep up the good work

@aideng.4626 6 лет назад

That tone and ambiance sound is hilarious. Straight up honest I love this video lol

@MikkelGrumBovin 6 лет назад

youre so good ! i dont know anymore - who i am ... or ...what i am .... am i a boy ?... or am i a girl ? i dont know anymore .... you... make me so confused ...are you REALLY talking to ME ME ? Like...it...im...all perplexed ...and confused now....i dont ...know...anymore.....but i know .. that i ALSO want a camera ...the SAME as you got ! and i love you....videos..... you have made me a better person ... but im still a LITTLE confused.... i know .. i like you...like i never tried to like anybody before....but i also know that im a boy ...so....am i a freak ???? a monster ????? i like to see those videos coming - you do a good job ... a really good photographra person ! ! ! ! ...

@segrad1 6 лет назад

Man, you have your own unique style which is refreshing. Good info, good video, and I look forward to more videos. Subscribed. PEACE from the STL.

@NotFinancialAdvice 5 лет назад

Dude... you're really weird... Also... you're kinda awesome.

@Al.j.Vasquez 6 лет назад

I want to shoot astrophotography, i want to shoot videos of fast action that sometimes happen on dim light situations, so i decided that i would get at least an APS-C camera that can be coupled with fast lenses. That's why i wouldn't get a MFT, specially because there are no affordable fast lenses on the Panasonic side of MFT, and i can't afford full frame mirrorless cameras.

@rickved 2 года назад

Why aren't you talking so fast I can't follow you? Don't you want to be like every other camera reviewer on youtube? Where are your tattoos and earrings? Try to spice up your language with "yo" and "and "uh yeah" and "right?". Use an upward inflection at the end of every sentence so we'll think you're asking questions. Put some boring sing-song rhythms into your speech. Where are you from, Canada?

@thinkinginpictures4071 6 лет назад

Had the 17.5 .95 voigtlander. Two words: Beautiful Garbage. Wide open it had the resolution of a fuzzy peach. The coma was unbelievable. Left skin tons looking very odd. Stop it down though to 1.4 and especially F2 and it's magic. So, I switched to Sony and adapted the 35mm 1.7 Ultron. MAGIC TIME!!! The 17.5 was over a lb and the 35mm 1.7 is like- it's M43 size, sharper wide open and tons of voigtlander magic.

@SKarea51 6 лет назад

Why not a7III, has everything for $2.000. Full frame, 700 fucusing points, IBIS, headphone and mic jack. Dual card slot, big battery, slog, 4k and 120 frames full hd.... Thats the camera to buy today

@Sour75 6 лет назад

SKarea51, I think you mean A7III. The A7SIII hasn't even been announced yet.

@SKarea51 6 лет назад

Andy Pratt yes, my bad, and in the mean time I realised he did a video on a7iii, so my whole comment is useless. Anyways, what was this video good for when the most important feature for his is fully articulated screen and without it it's no go?!

@rkgaustin9043 6 лет назад

I shoot portraits with an A7 and video with a G85. Best of all worlds.

@valentinguz 2 года назад

Starting a cult¿?

@zenography7923 6 лет назад

nice video, so chilled you could make ice cubes in it!

@drewnoirfilmz 7 месяцев назад

It’s so funny watching this in 2024. Kasey’s voice is so much deeper now! 😅 I still use the G85. I have so many cameras, but it’s still one of the lightest and easiest cameras to use! Of course I have to use manual focus, but I come from filming on actual film and there was no autofocus back then.

@unworldlycreator9211 2 года назад

This is funny af

@aldolega 6 лет назад

You should check out the GH5, it uses the full sensor width for 4K (doesn't crop like the G85). Plus slightly better IBIS and AF than the G85, and all the additional video features of course.

@rupman27isback 6 лет назад

And it's almost double the price lol

@Autotrope 2 года назад

Autofocus on that 20/1.7 is bad (in video) regardless of which camera it's on. Slow and noisy. Because it's slow I think Panasonic cameras adjust the autofocus algorithm to be more conservative leaving things out of focus longer. That lens is no good for video. G85 kit lens or that video tuned zoom lens I have (can't remember which) is pretty good.

@commoncure3335 4 года назад

f.18 holy shit

@TheDudster369 5 лет назад

I lean toward Panasonic naturally but I'm stuck between the G85 for it's stabilization and the Canon T7i for it's AF. I'm not going to doing much video at all BUT as a beginner I think that when I do shoot video the stabilization will be important. I don't know what to do.

@sabrinatby 5 лет назад

Same!!! End up what do you get?? Since g95 is out now...I'm curious. I've been contemplating whether g95 or 80d .

@giannagiavelli5098 2 года назад

I use a g7 (no stab) with a 12-34 pana. that has stabe and de shake. and its tiny and weights nothing. Probably the lightest combo you can get. I'd upgrade to a g95 BUT wont settle for 4k crop so stilllllll waitin. g9? too heave and big but... takes good pics.

@onufry_zagloba_s_pro_max_plus Год назад

13:00 so this is the exact moment you've convinced yourself its worth to go G85 + 0.95 toneh way. Sad to watch. If someone able to timetravel sees this comment, please save him. Save his soul.

@QawiemJamil 3 года назад

Amazing! I am seeing history in the making - right before he wanted the perfect camera, AND also right before he made the biggest mistake of his life - going with the voigtlander f/0.95 over the leica f/1.4, you toneh slave. Also, it's impressive how much your voice dropped and how your accent changed in 3 years haha. Love you - best camera channel on youtube.

@2yoyodog 3 года назад

two years later..."that creamy cinematic background..bokeh"......don't waste your time/$$$$.

@nagual2335 6 лет назад

You Should do ASMR Bro, I will subscribe to you in a bit!

@highgroundproductions8590 6 лет назад

MFT is good at low price points, below $1000. At low price points they offer the best quality for the money. At higher price points there's no reason to get a smaller sensor. But the A7iii has made great improvements in usability since the A7ii, and if you can afford it, it's the best there is. Also the A7iii has amazing autofocus while Panasonic will do terrible especially at a shallow DOF.

@alucardhellsing1037 6 лет назад

AF is for the weak - Jeremy Clarkson (grand tour)

@andresgonzalezcerda7635 2 года назад

Man, you have really improved with the years. Your voice has change naturally or you learned how to change it?

@sergeiegorkin7873 6 лет назад

Made me fuckin laugh, mate, subscribed

@pizzapete4692 6 лет назад

I think the 50mm f1.4 had more bike simply because of the lens compression the 25mm f1.4 is simply producing similar performance but since the actual lens is 25mm the footage is less compressed even though the crop factor is the equivalent to 50mm I would like to see a comparison with two similar focal lengths with the cameras adjusted of course in order to see what the difference in bokeh would be Im aware that the mft sensor doesn't gather as much light but I wonder what the difference would be if that makes

@faisalee 3 года назад

Toneh was there, it has always been, but still un-discovered by Man back then! :)

@LucasAlexander 5 лет назад

Panasonic G85 with the 25mm f1.4 is what im working with ATM, its amazing and definatly worth it for the price and versatility. I think the Voigtlander would be the best for floating head type videos , but the 25mm f/1.4 does the same job if you have the green screen.

@iggu74 5 лет назад

bought the pana g80(85) with kit lens 12-60mm and the 25mm 1.7 for 675 dollars - cant wait to recieve it. Great channel! Hope you find what you are looking for, or maybe rather not - it is more fun then :)

@BarryMaskell 6 лет назад

G85 with the Leica 15mm f1.7 try that one

@weedylock 6 лет назад

Just sold all my mft lenses and gx85 for sony A7mk3 with 55mm F1.8 and the picture quality and low light performance is amazing, the best decision and investment.

@cornerstonemediaconsulting5646 3 года назад

Thanks for the laughs and the comparison well done

@Andybaby 4 года назад

Watched this video like 4 times. Really helpful video, especially the comparisons. Thanks!

@nssdesigns 5 лет назад

I ended up watching this as I was frustrated with my G85 with stock 12-60 lens (yes I knew micro 2/3 sensors double the focal length 25=50 yada yada) but I just realised it doubles the aperture too... so 3.5 (which is the lowest = 7.0) so no wonder I'm getting shit DoF and I realise now why the lens is rubbish for shallow DoF. I pulled out my NIKON D800 (10 year old camera) with 50mm f.1.8mm NIKOR lens and this is a world of difference and the thing comes out of retirement for still stuff (as it was the model before DLSR camera's shot video). I found your dry sense of humour well worth Subscribing and I'm with you with smooth creamy shit! funny guy...

@nssdesigns 5 лет назад

so I had to search for the lenses you mentioned and found this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nZtMBIRHsxw.html seems the MIKATOR is a lot smaller and lighter for hand-held vloging... I'm up for that... win win! So what did you go for... comments below and win a t-shirt ;-)

@nssdesigns 5 лет назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-_dMakSxkhGw.html the Voitlander 25mm is manual focus too

@nssdesigns 5 лет назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d2FNZAO7Dow.html sexy shit!

@jeremiahbrite1 5 лет назад

Hahahaha love this video...the backgrounds and how cinematic you made the leaves hahaha love the detail in this video...lol oh and great sense of humor...great comparrison

@kevmoiz1718 6 лет назад

look, just forget about the canon eos C700 cini camera, and get the dam 85 and the 0,95 if you dont move around much. cheers,

@joonas.manninen 4 года назад

Funny as shit. Almost funny as my struggle to decide between canon 250d,80d or panasonic g80..

@joonas.manninen 4 года назад

Went with the G85 finally. Damn that AF sucks! Good thing im leaning towards stills.

@Suedschleife 6 лет назад

MY current budget favorites are Canon M50 and Panasonic G85. One thing to consider could be the availability of speedboosters, what a nice way to get even faster lenses.

@llcinemaofficial 3 года назад

U remind me of jack sparrow

@PhilippeOrlando 6 лет назад

Absolutely! People won't actually listen to you for what you have to say they'll listen to you only if you have a blurry background. When I listen to some doctors talking about intermittent fasting or the benefit of a vegan diet or cold water immersion, I will know right away that the guy doesn't know what he's talking about and is a total loser if the background is in perfect focus. That's all I do also when I watch Netflix and Amazon Prime. I totally ignore the reviews about the story and acting and look for the ones who can confirm that in a particular story the background has to be creamy and blurry. You got it nailed down, buddy!

@daveyineluctable5525 6 лет назад

exactly. some people need their heads examined. i guess the internet really has exposed just how crazy people's brains are. reading through these comments, is even more disheartening. i guess it's worth remembering that even if only 1% of the world is crazy, 1% of a billion is still 10 million, lol.

@dkkeyz8815 Год назад

Digging deep….. there you are again.

@stumpycatvm7115 5 лет назад

would a metabones speedbooster help in any of these situations, or do you lose auto-focus?? , I'll bet that Voigtlander .95 is heavy as depleted uranium, work out boy

@cameraconspiracies 5 лет назад

It would make the autofocus even worse ;)

@DrCam808 6 лет назад

You hypnotised me

@mwangiplus- 6 лет назад

Great video,and the humour!i like your reviews.

@ravithompson1082 5 лет назад

Buy a viltrox speedbooster

@mamurochan5055 6 лет назад

Reupload? I remembered watching this video a year ago. 🤔

@cameraconspiracies 6 лет назад

That was on my main channel, I'm putting all my camera related videos up here, as well as lots of new ones to come ;)

@extramediumpony165 4 года назад

you are great man!

@SzymonPytel 4 года назад

O so many Tony stops here :P

@ngobrolajaa8710 4 года назад

yea.. those old days..

@The2005eddy 6 лет назад

Panasonic G85 but I'd get the voigtlander 17.5mm f0.95 if you are using it for vlogging as 35mm equivalent is probable better than 50mm plus you could buy both for less than the Sony A7s body only.

@cameraconspiracies 6 лет назад

That woulda been a better choice!

@ClevelandTerry 6 лет назад

There's a 10.5 voitlander now that would be even better for vlogging. That's the one I'm getting if I decide to stay with Panasonic. I'm really feeling that G9, like a lot. But that A7iii.....

@jakobhovman 4 года назад

Codeword: "Metabones"...! All I'm sayin'. Could be good for you. "Flexing" Aperture and Focal length...! Thank You. Good to see your hands on approach. Greetings from Denmark...!

@dejayrezme8617 6 лет назад

I'm a newbie just doing some research, but from what I understand aperture = size of bokeh balls (= fl / f) The biggest aperture on wide prime lenses I've found for vlogging: Panasonic Leica DG Summilux 12mm f/1.4 ASPH. 860.00 € - 8.6 mm Panasonic Leica DG Summilux 15mm f/1.7 423.00 € - 8.8 mm Sigma 16mm F1.4 DC DN 400.00 € - 11.4 mm Olympus M.Zuiko Digital 17mm f1.8 300.00 € - 9.4 mm Voigtlander 25mm 0.95 950.00 € - 26.3 mm Would be an immense boon for MFT if someone would make something like an affordable f0.95 lens with wide angle like 12mm. All the vloggers would jump on it. Maybe you can throw a wide angle converter on the voigtlander? EDIT: Oh wait, there are actually more wider ones: Voigtlander Nokton 10.5mm f/0.95 1,100.00 € - 11.1 mm Voigtlander Nokton 17.5mm f/0.95 900.00 € - 18.4 mm Expensive and no autofocus. Also not sharp full open. But they should stack up pretty well against full frame? Panasonic should jump on that design and add autofocus before Sony or the upcoming full frame mirrorless eat their bacon. PS: They are also quite heavy and big...

@robe619 6 лет назад

Your delivery kills me lmao. Love it

@InterfaceDeath 6 лет назад

I have been watching dozens of G85 reviews and loved this one because you made me laugh so fucking hard. Your sense of humor is appreciated.

@Clickumentary 6 лет назад

Dude you seriously crack me up.

@xavier_arthur 5 лет назад

leaning towards g58 s well........i plan to buy soon

@amanieux 6 лет назад

about 4k making you skin look bad compared to 1080p because you see wrinkles, put something in front of your lens to filter ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-InpiroMh-P0.html

@LORDVADER357 6 лет назад

Extreme compact and waterproof camera is the camera for me. Dont care much about the blurry background. In fact i prefer sharp background because i am not film myself much. 4K and low light performance. I think about panasonic TZ90 but i heard its not good enough in low light conditions. Its not weatherproof as well. If canon make G7X mark III with external mic support, and sideways flip screen then will be awesome. Btw background can be bluried via post process.

@melanienolley 6 лет назад

Ha Ha! Best review ever!

@amdenis 6 лет назад

LANGUAGE! Just kidding. Very funny, nice metered delivery and useful info- thanks. That’s why some serious photogs use a range of cameras, from mobile devices and GoPro’s to medium format. BTW, try an adapted 105mm F/1.4. That and the 200mm f/1.8 make for such beautiful bokeh and are great for selfies (you mentioned you are into health and fitness).

@pobutscrackerbox 6 лет назад

A7iii is for you :)

@amdenis 6 лет назад

In all seriousness, have you tried the Olympus M.Zuiko 25mm f/1.2 PRO on the Lumix G series. I use it on my G85 and GH5, and it gives great bokeh and has AF, etc. (sorry, the prior comment submitted before I was done).

@Ulrich.Bierwisch 6 лет назад

This tests are great and I don't think it can be done much better without things like mounting two cameras together for parallel shooting or studio setups with controlled light. I'm not sure if a manual 25mm/0.95 lens is the best choice for vlogging. It might depend on the work style. For my stuff, I hit the sweet spot with the GH5 and the Pana/Leica 12mm/1.4 lens. But I don't do much of this handheld selfie shots and I use the F1.4 more for low light than blurry backgrounds. Olympus has new F1.2 lenses, that might be a good alternative for you. I'm using a lot single AF which makes things much easier.

@HesselFolkertsma 6 лет назад

You don’t REALLY need a flipout screen, if you’re manually focusing. Use a lens with hyperfocal distance, preferable even a film-camera lens since most of those are compact and have the hyperfocal markings on there. With the A7sII you could even set it to a smaller aperture, broaden the DOF from the camera until right behind you.

@dzevadbayraktar322 5 лет назад

Personally I don't like blurry background (looks like pasteup job) ; maybe on occasion for very rare picture otherwise I do not like pictures where there is no content

@antovega2 6 лет назад

lol. subbed

@sleetvisuals 6 лет назад

I have a G85. I recommend the Sigma 16mm f/1.4. It has the DOF you want, autofocus, low light performance, and does not break the bank.

@PoorMansPerspective 5 лет назад

Creepy but funny, good job!! Hahahaha

@MediaBuster 5 лет назад

I love your conspiracy voice..LMAO

@dialatedmcd 6 лет назад

The only one better was the 80D, but it's so much bigger and clunkier, ya gotta weigh that in. I'm stuck between the G85 and 80D. I like the 80D because of it's great skin tones. As someone with bad acne scars, that would help.

@cameraconspiracies 6 лет назад

Might as well get a 6D II at that point.

@blacksunapocalypse 4 года назад

This is the most entertaining camera-themed video i've ever seen.

@amanieux 6 лет назад

at t=10min54 you compare g7x vs g85 and point out that background is blurier on g85 but look at skin tone you are orange, isn't color more important than subject separation from background to you ?

@cameraconspiracies 6 лет назад

Coulda just been the auto white balance freaking out in the camera shop. I'm pretty happy with the colours most times, but sometimes in fluorescent lighting it freaks out.