Panasonic G9 vs G85 - RAW image in-depth comparison

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The Panasonic G9 and G85 are amazing for video, but how do they stack up for photography? For this video, I shot identical(ish) RAW images on each camera w/ the bokehlicious 25mm f1.4 Leica lens. I did a side-by-side comparison of each camera's dynamic range, detail, sharpness, and low light performance. Is the G9 really worth $600 more?
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@RonnieDizon 5 лет назад

Your videos are always so informational. Keep it up dude! You are killing it, and will be blowing up with subscribers in no time!

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Thanks so much Ronnie! Appreciate your support 👽👍

@segrad1 5 лет назад

Great video Ben. I currently shoot with a Canon T6 and I'm going upgrade to the Sony A7RII/III (haven't decided which one yet) and the G9. After watching your videos, I've been thinking about the G85 more. The G9 has been decreasing and I can get one for $1300 vs $600 for the G85. Should I still go with the G9 since I'm getting a Sony as well or would that be overkill? PEACE from ATL✊🏾

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

segrad1 thanks! I think your camera choice depends on what you’ll be doing most w it. If you need really reliable video autofocus, go w one of the Sony’s. Actually the Sony’s you mentioned are p much better cameras than all of the Panasonic’s in terms of quality - you def get what you pay for. But if you’re a vlogger and need a flip screen, I would go w the G9 if you have the budget, or the G85 if you’re on a tighter budget. The G85 has served me SO well over the last year!

@segrad1 5 лет назад

@@b3naqua I'm thinking Sony A7RII because I will be doing mainly portraits and the G9 for when I so everything else. Thank you for responding and I'm glad I have found your channel! PEACE from ATL😊📸

@toxictabasco 5 лет назад

Congratulations on the 4K subscribers. That's a huge milestone in a short period of time. Well deserved. A great test shot test you have. One thing would be interesting is a High ISO shot in JPG test. The G9 has some amazing high ISO ability worth looking into. Kudos, and keep on keeping on.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Aww thanks so much! That’s a great idea to do a high ISO JPG test! I’ve gotten other requests for a JPG comparison test too, so maybe I could combine those two concepts into one video?

@Lepewhi 5 лет назад

I prefer the g85. For $600 difference, buy the g85 and a couble of nice lenses.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Good idea! The G85 is such an amazing camera! And the price keeps going down 👍

@Jormungandr69 5 лет назад

Hey Ben! I see a lot of people doing G9 vs G85 comparisons, and that's great. But I would really like to see a comparison between the GX9 and the G85 since they are now in the same price range.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Noted! Good idea.

@BigBadroid 5 лет назад

Yo! Pretty sick videos dude!

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Thanks so much!

@ExaltedEla 5 лет назад

Really like your presentation style, thanks for the informative video! I just got a G9 myself and was wondering if you could cover some of the camera settings you like to use (for still photography). There just seems to be endless customization options and I haven't found videos that have been helpful. Like I found a few that talk about what they set, but not what it does and why it's better to make that change. Thanks for reading, I just subbed!

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Thanks for subbing Emmy!! I typically shoot photos using aperture priority, Natural color profile (default values), auto white balance, ISO 100 (or auto ISO/a higher ISO if it’s a lower light situation), RAW, etc. Aperture priority is a basic primer for me for stills, because that shooting mode will maximize your lens’ depth of field. For example, if you have a larger aperture lens like an f1.7 and you’re trying to get blurry backgrounds, setting your G9 to aperture priority and decreasing the aperture to 1.7 will give you the most bokehlicious results. Are there any settings in particular you’re curious about?

@ExaltedEla 5 лет назад

@@b3naqua Thanks for getting back to me! Yes, I was curious about some of the more tech-y settings. I feel like I don't fully understand all of the focus options. There are dials on the camera, the lens, also in the menu. And then working with the joystick. Are there ways to make the focus area smaller? Another set of features I'm not familiar with are things like i.Dynamic/i.resolution/diffraction compensation/etc. Do you have opinions on how to set these up? Oh and also custom menu items. People seem to have their frequently changed settings easily accessible, what are some of our yours? Sorry lots of questions. You can let me know if I just need to sit down with the manual and experiment... =P Thanks again.

@debba3056 4 года назад

Wow, I am so impressed with the quality of your videos. You are natural teacher; clear and focused. I've been taking photos since I was 6 using a hand-me-down Zeiss-Ikon. Since then more hand-me-downs...Nikon, Canon....whatever.....never look a gift horse in the....... Anyway, it's time for me to pick my own camera. I was all set to go with the G85 based on the comparison photos you illuminated, until you pointed out (again) the pixel size differences between the G9 and the G85 when printing large sized prints. Yep. Worth it for me Thank you so much!!!!!

@b3naqua 4 года назад

You’re welcome! Thanks for the compliments too! I think you’ll dig the G9. Video autofocus is better on it too!

@rocknroyalproductions8164 5 лет назад

Ben...so after shooting on it for a while would you say the G9 is your all time fav now? I sold my GH4 to get an A7iii but am second guessing my decision after not getting comfortable with the Sony system....thinking the G9 May have been a better choice for me (mainly for photography!)

@LyndonPatrickSmith 5 лет назад

Thanks for this video. I have a G85 and like it. From what I've read, I think where the G9 shines is continuous AF tracking. It would be cool to get one of your friends running towards the camera and compare the two then. Might have to use a different lens, though, as this is not a strength of the pan leica 25 1.4.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

This is true! I'll have to do some more tests in the AF tracking mode. Thanks for the suggestion!

@bigdhav 5 лет назад

There's a huge difference between the SOOC raw and jpeg images. The G9 jpeg engine is MUCH improved, particularly with skin tones. The G9 looks flatter because there's more dynamic range.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

That’s what I’ve also heard about the G9 JPGs! I’ll have to try that out. I typically shoot everything in RAW.

@bigdhav 5 лет назад

@@b3naqua me too. But the "vivid" profile works really well for jpegs in a cinch, if you need to upload via WiFi quickly. Also, L.Monochrome is great.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Good to know! It’s interesting how the Natural profile on the G9 is much flatter than the same profile on the G85.

@welfarestates8465 5 лет назад

An improved jpeg engine is literally the worst upgrade I could think of for one of these cameras. Who seriously shoots jpeg images?

@WhiteWulfe 5 лет назад

For me, I suspect the difference will be more in some of the additional features you get with the G9... Better IBIS, longer battery life, faster (and more refined) autofocus, and of course more video features. It is nice to see that in some ways the image quality difference is refinements here and there, especially on straight out of camera reds and yellows.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

The G9 def feels like a good upgrade from the G85 if you have the budget!

@RookieReefer 5 лет назад

Great comparison man 👌 can't say I wasnt tempted by the g9 but my g85 gets most jobs done well. Subbed

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Glad you dug the video! Yup, G85 still holds tf up. Thx for the sub!

@MudMaxMetalDetecting Год назад

Interesting comparison, if you're a general stills photographer the G85 makes way more sense, but if you do video and you like to be more creative then obviously the G9 has more tricks and neat features. Worth pointing out that the G9 can take an 80MP still image in the right circumstances as well. ATB MMMD

@gabrielalamberti5860 5 лет назад

Thanks for this comparison. Definitely keeping my G85 until something way way better comes along, and I dont mean full frame.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Agreed! Hopefully Panasonic announces the G95 or something juicy soon.

@andreika6681 5 лет назад

em-1 mk2 is way better :-P

@WebInteractiveFilms 5 лет назад

I think the g85 images look a lot better, especially in the low light situation, this is because it has more info in the pixels. Sometimes less is more. g9 is definitely not the winner.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

It’s amazing how well the G85 held up vs the G9!

@TheGregWallace 4 года назад

Question...Do you know what the what the max raw file color bit depth is for photos with the g85 and g9?

@yoginwidhi6676 5 лет назад

Hei Ben, i actually wonder if G85 was like GX85 then is GX9 the same as G9? And is it worth purchase GX9 over GX85?

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Hey Yogi! That’s a good question. I haven’t tried the GX9 yet, but if I get ahold of one, I’ll def do some comparisons!

@yugao5260 5 лет назад

Love your videos which made me love my G85 more lol, but isn't the cost of G9 like some decent full frame cameras? Do you think image quality wise MFT is in any way better than full frame?

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Yup, the G9 is almost the same cost as the Sony A7III, for example. Technically (and scientifically), FF sensors are more capable of producing higher dynamic range, better low light performance, etc than MFT. But MFT is quickly catching up, it seems! I think it’s mostly about what you want to shoot and what features you need. I love MFT cuz the cameras and lenses are very powerful, yet portable. I don’t like carrying 18 bags of gear with me everywhere lol.

@batsonelectronics 5 лет назад

I see it as, you get m4/3 for the smaller light lenses and ISO up to 6400 that is useable. If you need super shallow DOF and ISO above 6400, FF is the better option at a big weight increase. I had Nikon FF and DX Pro bodies. I don't need above ISO 6400 so I was able to get the G7 , then a GH4 ( I since have sold ) and recently a G85. ( also a GH2 that is up for sale ) I can use longer focal length to make up for f-stops for background blur so m4/3 is my new friend. The weight of FF and DX ( DX was my long lenses, FF my wides ) was just getting to be too much. I can carry the g7 and G85 with the focal lengths I need and the 2 cameras together weight what just the FF used to. 82mm front glass vs 62mm front glass for m4/3 makes for a lot less glass and weight. I also love 4K and completely silent shooting. Neither were present with my Nikon gear. Someday I might get a G9 and sell the g7 and use the G85 as the second body. Right now I like what I got and it works well for me. I look at the body and lenses cost as a whole as the Sony lenses are super expensive for mirrorless.

@gerrymac3694 5 лет назад

Thanx for a great review, Both great cameras but I don’t like the size of the G9 the whole point of mft is the have high performance in a compact body, I for one will not be changing my G85 camera.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

I’m with you on that! I don’t really want another gigantic camera. I hope all these companies keep making the smaller camera bodies!

@CommiePinko101 5 лет назад

The difference in dynamic range is significant. I've noticed with my G85 it's like the raw files are slightly baked. They're not as malleable as what comes out of my GH5.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Good to know! Thanks for commenting 👍

@denault3985 5 лет назад

At least for me it was only around $300 with trade-in (extremely old Nikon DSLR). Love the G9 build...and of course the 4k/60fps video!

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

damnnnn that’s an amazing price!! Glad to hear you’re digging the G9!

@DonSaeKang 5 лет назад

Excellent Comparison Ben! In my opinion the G85 can really hold it's own. Again in my opinion, the 4k on the G85 are almost as good the Sony's 4K where you can actually used them along side each other.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Thanks Don! I agree, the G85 is still an insane camera. I’m having some doubts as to whether the G9 is really worth the extra $$$ 😭 it’s a phenomenal camera, but I might hold out till the next release. G95???

@marc6652 5 лет назад

In my opinion, what really makes the G9 a better camera is its ergonomics and its easy-to-use controls + a very good grip to my hands and a great EVF.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

True that! Agreed, the G9 does have better ergonomics overall. I like the beefier grip.

@jay4627 5 лет назад

There was just a trade-in deal for the G9 through a few big retailers bringing the new price to $1097.99 before counting your trade-in value. That's around $300 more than the G85 right now. I took advantage of it, moving up from a used Olympus EM10 Mk 2. The G9 is just a great camera overall, and yes the dynamic range in post appears to be extremely good, even from JPEGs.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

That’s awesome you got a G9! Where did you see the trade in deals? 😱

@jay4627 5 лет назад

I got mine from Focus Camera, but I'm still awaiting their final price for my EM10.2. The deal also included a Sony 128 gb 300 mbs SD card, and 2 day shipping. There were a bunch of posts on FB groups and forums about the offers, from a few other big retailers as well. The deal ended 1 Sept

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Ah cool! Glad you snagged the deal while it was still up!

@ShaunYeoh 5 лет назад

I was surfing BHPhotoVideo and holy crap, if you’re okay with buying used with minor cosmetic wear, a G85 goes for $533 (with kit lens) and a G9 goes for $897 (body only). I don’t think it’s ever been this hard to choose, it’s never been cheaper to get so many features out of the G9 like 4K60, pixel shift, better autofocus, better IBIS, etc, but for straight up bang for your buck, the G85 can’t be beaten either. It’s such a hard choice for me, I’m really contemplating how much I really need those extra features, but I’ll never know till I try. Otherwise, I could get so much more glass with a cheaper G85 body, the struggle is real...

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Yes!! The prices keep dipping lower and lower. Used is the way to go - I bought my G85 used from B&H and it was in awesome/near new condition a couple years ago for like $700. $533 is an amazing price for the G85! $897 is so good for the G9 too. It is a tough decision for sure! But if you have the $ and don’t mind a larger camera body, I’d say go with the G9.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

btw this video was shot using face-tracking AF on the G9. It did pretty well overall, but it went out of focus here and there 😭 def better than the G85 tho

@thesteve121 5 лет назад

It's worth checking out how far you can push the shadows in each of the RAW files, from what I've read the ability to do that with less noise is the big difference with the G9, but I'd be interested to see what you find.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Steve hi! That’s an excellent point! I thought about that while doing this video. Should I do a part 2 where I edit the photos the same way and see how the results come out?

@thesteve121 5 лет назад

Yep, part two would be good :) see how far you can recover the highlights, boost the shadows for each.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Noted! Thx for the suggestion!

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Steve! I just uploaded part 2 per your request! Watchhhh: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5a7jjrjKEGE.html

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

THANKS FOR 4K SUBS!! 👽 G85 held up so well! Is the G9 a worthy upgrade?

@ryutokugawa3988 5 лет назад

Good video! I recently bought my first camera ... the Panasonic Lumix Gx85 !! Also buy the 25mm f1.7 and the 45-150mm. Congratulations for the 4k subscribers !!! Greetings from Argentina!! (translated with the google translator)

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Thanks Ryu!! That’s so awesome you got the GX85! It’s such an amazing and tiny camera. Do you like it?

@bigdhav 5 лет назад

The battery lasts SO much longer on the G9.

@bigdhav 5 лет назад

Bought it for the "terminator mode" where everything is RED.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

The G9 can also travel back in time to meet up with John Connor and the T-1000. 👽👽👽

@batsonelectronics 5 лет назад

you seem to have shot everything at f1.4. It makes it hard to tell sharpness when the DOF is pretty thin at that f stop. Maybe for future test shoot at f2.8 and use center cross hair focus point and hit the same spot on both. In Aperture I can hit a button that shows the actual focus location to tell better. ( comes straight from camera ) I personally don't see a big enough difference in all your comparo videos but the G9 is faster in some areas and has features not on the G85 so for me, if those features were worth it, the little boost in resolution would just be gravy. Thanks for the video though.

@emilian147 5 лет назад

Please correct me if I'm wrong... But are the whites not blown out because a 16mp sensor has a lower pixel density which means this sensor gathers more light then a 20mp sensor?

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

I’m not sure 👀

@1883entertainment 5 лет назад

@@b3naqua i think it means the g9 has a newer sensor/processor which results in better dynamic range

@Tomaz14 5 лет назад

love it! of course i'm biased because i use g9 with 25mm 1.7 panasonic lens :D

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

That’s such a juicy combo 🔥

@Tomaz14 5 лет назад

mr. Ben, do you feel there is an upgrade in autofocus from g 85 to g9? Thanks!

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Yes! G9 autofocus is better than the G85. Watch my AF comparison video to see some tests: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WwuRY1VfWBU.html

@Hei_hey 5 лет назад

Small can let you be more in the moment have freedom to call it quits faster over set up and be happy with it. G9 brings some artistic leeway for getting into expressive photography that will keep paying for itself. Imo Thanks, room for G85 even if 16 megapixel 😶 to get content out as people really love it.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Agreed! I love and prefer the smaller size of the G85 overall. It’s weird how smaller sized cameras can be more fun to use than giant cameras.

@mr.s4849 3 года назад

I agree completely with you on this. I picked up a G9 to pair for two camera work with my G85. The G9 is like you say, much flatter in the color profiles. I would have just bought another G85 but the G9 has 4K60. Oh well, trial and error. Both are great cameras for the price. The G9 in 4K60 video with the Sigma 18-35 is gorgeous 👍🏼

@b3naqua 2 года назад

Nice setup! Yah that 4K60 on the G9 is amazing!

@JericTamayo 5 лет назад

The game is half way done when pressing the shutter. The other half is in the post processing. So I prefer the G9 because it keeps everything more neutral to work with. And also the $600 is also in the features, not just the image quality.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Excellent points!

@nerdMike 5 лет назад

I notice on G80/85, on iso around 1600 to 3200 reddish image with led artifical lights but even in raw cannot compensate for that (shooting raw). I had to remove almost entirely red color by its slider, otherwise it's unusable the image. Tried different WB settings but in fact there was a problem (standard kit lens).. also with RAW usually u don't think about WB, but in this case I was worried because can't handle the problem, photo unusable, and so not suitable for jpg at all for this problem :/ I feel not so confident now about letting the camera shoot jpg.

@rickkoloian4179 4 года назад

Ben good video but question: do you have any sense of enlargements? My goal is to make art prints--if my health cooperates--and Imaging-resource describes 36X24" prints from G85 as "terrific" & 40x30" as "superb." Your thoughts & thanks,

@b3naqua 4 года назад

I’ve printed G85 images at 20x30 and they came out fine. Not ultra-sharp, but from a bit of a distance they look great. imo 24x36 would be pushing it resolution-wise, and a bit of noise might be visible (depending on the quality of the printer too). If you want higher resolution prints, I’d go with the G9 over the G85.

@rickkoloian4179 4 года назад

@@b3naqua thanks & I guess I will need to do my own test to make sure. If my health improves, my idea is to use Base ISO, raw, & a sharp prime like Sigma 30mm f1.4. I can let you know how it turns out with a professional lab &, also, really wanted a G9 but hoping to wait until the cost comes down.

@tattoobillyvon9764 5 лет назад

i am looking at the G9 i have the G7 that i have been using mostly for Video. now i am doing realestate work. I just got the 8-18mm lens. hmmm decisions

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

The G9 is a pretty healthy upgrade from the G7, especially if you want in body stabilization and a better sensor. The G7 is such an amazing camera for the $ tho! What’s making you want to upgrade?

@stevebarr8487 5 лет назад

You need to look at the AF performance since that is one big change...

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

AF on the G9 is way better! I did a video AF comparison: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WwuRY1VfWBU.html

@A1Bokeh 5 лет назад

Ive watched this video a few times... As a more photographer eye I can really see the g9 BUT an average person would probably choose the g85 in a few cases if not most

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Agreed - dynamic range definitely seems better on the G9, but you'd usually only really notice these differences in pixel-peeping side by side comparisons like this. G85 is awesome for the $ and is getting cheaper and cheaper!

@jayclas4023 2 года назад

The 16 mega pixels of the G85 require less light, so the images are brighter. But the G9 cleaner even though the image is slightly darker.

@b3naqua 2 года назад

makes sense

@juanjoseguerrero657 5 лет назад

Appreciate the comparison, but I think comparing jpegs should have been included especially if you like the saturation. Many times you may use the JPEG as you only need raw in specific scenarios here it can provide value. That being noted the the RAW comparison does provide value. Thanks!

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

That’s a really good point! Noted. ✔️ I’ve heard the G9 produces better JPGs than the G85. Thanks for the feedback Juan!

@juanjoseguerrero657 5 лет назад

Yeah the JPEG engine was improved and it would be great to see this comparison in more detailed especially as JPEG is more friendly for upload socially. On a side note, I would love to see some comparison in the new monochrome mode compared to the standard monochrome mode as I think this is exclusive to the newer G cameras. I use monochrome quite a bit on my G7 and one of the things I am interested in. Also, I think the increased megapixel is advantageous when considering focus stacking and also using the high res mode both of which you can not do on the G85. I think these two functions alone if used enough can justify the price increase especially when some complain about the lower megapixel counts on MFT. Either which way great job with the content!

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Noted ✔️ thanks for the suggestions! I’ve been curious about JPG comparisons between the G85 and G9 as well! I’ll have to do some tests!

@welfarestates8465 5 лет назад

Unless you're too poor to own a computer and purchase Lightroom, there's literally no reason to shoot jpeg vs. raw. Stick with point & shoots if jpegs are what you're after.

@batsonelectronics 5 лет назад

@@welfarestates8465 I only shoot jpgs, I have no problem making great images or selling those images. All with a m4/3 or even back to a D70 6mp from 2007. The file type does not make you good, it make help fix an error but if you need raw to do good work then that is about you, not the file type. Remember ppl used to make and sell huge prints with 4mp Nikon D1 way back. There are many pro's who generally only shoot jpg. There are those who prefer raw, but I have yet to hear one say you can only get the shot in RAW. ( except Jerad Polin and I personally am not impressed with most of his photos ) Almost all sports is jpg.( at least ppl I know who shoot sports ) Use whatever file type fits your needs but please don't insult those of us who use jpg and have no problem with it. I have printed 3 ft wide with an D90 in Jpg normal, of a landscape scene. Try printing all that dynamic range, see how much the prints can actually resolve. Not anywhere near as much as the camera can provide. If you can't get the exposure to within 1 stop of correct then yeah, raw is great. The great thing about digital and even better with mirrorless, is I can see the exposure in my viewfinder no matter the lighting. That exp.comp knob works great when you are too exposed or not quite enough.

@LBEvideo 5 лет назад

The G9 might be very similar in this sort of photography. But the G9 has as you say more megapixels, but also way better AF, both in photo and video, also better low light, 4k60 1080p180fps. 6k photo mode, slightly better Dynamic range, while the G9 jpegs are also way better, better bigger buffer, faster burst in continues shooting, and to top it off pixel shift with up to 80mp pictures for product photography.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Yup the G9 is awesome! I’d recommend the G9 to anyone w the budget and who would need the extra features. For me, the G85 still performs super well. Curious to see what Pan’s successors will be for the G85, G9, GH5.

@jangarcia1338 5 лет назад

Iso 100 is not the native iso of these cameras. You are losing dynamic range and overall quality because of this. You should use iso 200.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

I’m doing some higher ISO tests soon 👍

@jangarcia1338 5 лет назад

@@b3naqua Thanks a lot for answering! Many channels don't even bother. I'd love to see that, I had a Panasonic G7 in the past and now an Olympus omd em10mkiii. The g9 looks appealing, but lately and now also with the Panasonic FF announcement, I don't know if I should keep putting more money into it or leave it how it is and maybe upgrading into another system (but still keeping mft as I really enjoy the size/weight and cost/quality). Not that I have much, just the em10mkiii 14-42,45-150, 17 1.8,45 1.8, a flash and a trigger

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

You have an awesome setup! It's crazy how fast all the camera companies are popping out these new camera bodies. Curious to see what happens next!

@nerdMike 5 лет назад

@@jangarcia1338 I think I'll go for G9 just because better body, better handling, top lcd, better ibis, bigger batteries.. Things like that. Not a deal breaker about Image and video quality, totally not :)

@xXadambXx 4 года назад

600$ difference it is in video mostly. Panasonic is bought mainly for filming

@b3naqua 4 года назад

Yup overall the G9 is a better value imo

@ultrakwon 5 лет назад

With all due respect Mr. Aqua, I think you forgot to put those frames back on after you shot them, because the G85 destroyed the G9. Psyche! I'm pretty positive I have an inferior monitor. That, and I just don't have the trained eye. In other news, congrats on 4K subscribers! It seems like there's a tipping point in the RU-vid algorithm where you get into that vaunted goldilocks zone, and it's just smooth sailing from there. It's reassuring to know the quality of content you're putting out is being recognized and rewarded. I am not sure if you've started monetizing yet. Would love to get a video on the analytics of your channel.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Kwonnnn wuddup? Yah the differences between the 2 cameras are so subtle, esp if you’re watching the video on a phone. I could see more clear differences on my big ass 27” monitor. But even those were pretty minuscule imo. Ooooh I’ve always wanted to be Goldilocks! Well, the gaysian Goldilocks. I rly appreciate your support!! You’re one of the early Aqua adopters ™️ Analytics video would be cool! I’ve thought about that too, but how to approach it to make it interesting and minutely entertaining. Hmmmmmm

@ultrakwon 5 лет назад

Well, I'm super excited to see you taking off, Mr. Goldilocks! And I'm proud I can say I'm an early Aqua adopter and have you back me up, because soon, nobody'll believe me.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Lol so what kinds of juicy things do you think should be covered in an analytics video? It does seem like there is some mysterious secret threshold on the YT algorithm once you get to a certain level. My channel is still p tiny in comparison to the big folks, but I am starting to see a sliiiightly more exponential increase in views and engagement. I’m trying to upload more frequently and feed the beast ™️

@ultrakwon 5 лет назад

Milk that golden cash cow, Mr. Aqua! Once you get that snowball over the mountain, it seems to grow momentously. I think the 1,000 mark is a pretty big milestone nowadays, and it seems like once you hit that number, the algorithm feels confident enough to suggest your videos to potentially new viewers. I've seen channels that hit 1,000, and then the RU-vidr just disappears for eight months, only to return one day to 2,000 subs, which encourages them to get back into it. It would be pretty cool if you could break down the duration between 0-100 subs, 100-200 subs, 200-400, etc, to show the exponential growth. What do you think is the secret number? Are you monetizing yet? What other means like networking, advertising (business cards, pamphlets, bumper stickers, graffiti, Google ads, Facebook ads, etc) and social media did you use outside of RU-vid to promote traffic? Do you attribute any specific sources to helping you "break through," be it specific videos, collaborating, contributing to third parties, public appearances, etc? What's the demographical breakdown (gender, country, etc) of your channel, and what are your thoughts on that? I'm sure I'm missing some obvious juicy inquiries that would lead to Ben Aqua enlightment, so feel free to expand on these!

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Damn dude, thanks for typing all of that out! You’re amazing 👽👽👽 I think it would be an interesting video to break down how the growth on my channel has happened thus far. Yup, I’ve been monetizing since my channel’s inception, and luckily I was monetizing already before YT changed their 1K subs rule several months ago. It seems like around 2K was when my channel started seeing more views and engagement. There were a few videos in particular that completely surprised me in how well they went off. YT is such a fascinating beast! I’ll do some more thinking on the analytics video. I think it could be a good change of pace from all the specific camera stuff I’ve been doing too.

@dreamesw 5 лет назад

Looks like the G9 is using 1/3 stop lower exposure for the same settings, which is good because I always have to compensate for the G80 overexposure. More importantly the G9 is actually rendering reds accurately: the G80 keeps turning all my reds too orange, and no amount of white balance adjustment fixes it in-camera.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

You’re right, the G9 tends to be slightly lower exposed than the G85. Def a good thing if you’re trying to bring back a lot of details in post. I’ve noticed the red/orange thing with my G85 as well sometimes. Red seems like such a tricky color for cameras in general. It can get blown out so easily.

@abetterconsumer 5 лет назад

More detail in the shadows > G85

@janicwesseling5082 5 лет назад

I have a G80 and i'm really interested in the G9 for wildlife, macro (stacking) and droplet photo's. Would you upgrade in my situation?

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Hey Janic! I could see the faster burst photo mode of the G9 coming in handy, especially for wildlife photos with moving subjects. If you have the money, go for it!

@janicwesseling5082 5 лет назад

@@b3naqua i have the 100-300mm panasonic lens, the olympus 60mm macro 2.8 and the 14-140mm panasonic lens. Are these ok for the g9?

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Hell yeah!

@carmineparisi7390 4 года назад

I think it's a mistake to compare with ISO 100 photos, I think it's normal that it loses range

@nwrth Год назад

Exactly. The base ISO of both cameras is 200.

@chcomes 5 лет назад

for me the deal was the slomo and focus and speed

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Good points! Are you satisfied with all those features on the G9?

@chcomes 5 лет назад

@@b3naqua yes! this camera will last me for a good long time I think.

@bigdhav 5 лет назад

And the ergonomics and battery life are far superior

@nikolaygrishakin4646 5 лет назад

G85 will stay with me until Panny comes with great FF camera

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Same for me too I think! The G85 has served me so well.

@bigdhav 5 лет назад

Rumours of Samsung full frame BSI CMOS Dual Pixel AF sensor 😱. #PLEASEGODBETRUE

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Yes!!

@fellowcitizen 5 лет назад

=Colour science +++= I'd kind of given up on the idea that sub-APSC could be a main camera system due to certain IQ issues, but the G9 somehow surpassed that threshold. Even the GH5 isn't quite there, but the G9 images look excellent. The ergonomics are excellent, and 6K Photo again takes those old 4K features across a threshold. It's excellent, especially paired with the Olympus Pro 40-150mmF2.8 & the Sigma 16mmF1.4 (I'm less convinced by the Panasonic lenses, and wonder if they were a factor in the IQ issues - though, perhaps the co-branded ones are the way to go if you've got the cash.)

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Thanks for your comment! Apparently IQ on the G9 and the GH5 is pretty similar. You’re right tho, the G9 offers more photo features, like their super fast burst mode. What do you like about the Sigma 16 1.4? I have that lens for e mount, so powerful!

@Princeton_James 5 лет назад

@@b3naqua I also have it for the emount and I love it. Now I'm seriously considering it for my G9. 16mm on an MFT would be perfect. Hmmm....

@ravithompson1082 4 года назад

out of the camera setting is a great fail to use on tests

@schlemielschmock7149 5 лет назад

The G9 images look much more professional. Just like a bigger sensor camera.

@TheRealJPhillips 5 лет назад

Sorry, but does the g85 have I.B.I.S? I know the gh5 does

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Yup, the G85 has IBIS and it’s amazing!

@manolinvalen 5 лет назад

Hi Ben! I like your videos very much. I think there is a difference in exposure in your test, despite the lens, aperture, shutter speed and ISO it is the same. But I think I have the answer. The problem is that ISO100 is not the same for the same cameras. In this link you can see the difference in measured ISO between G80/G85 and GH5 (dxomark didn't test the G9 yet). www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Panasonic-Lumix-DC-GH5-versus-Panasonic-Lumix-DMC-G80___1149_1118

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Thanks for posting that link! Yup, the technical specs of the G85 don't quite match up to the GH5 or the G9, since the sensors are different. I'm definitely not the most scientific photographer out there 😉my videos are more on the "just start shooting and worry about the details later!!" vibe lol

@Aviciiz 5 лет назад

No iso test? :(

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Not for this video! But maybe in an upcoming video? Thx for the suggestion 👍

@pangklee1 5 лет назад

would love to see the iso against the a6500

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Good suggestions!

@quicklyfit8266 5 лет назад

From your pictures, bookeh is better on G9.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Yup, slightly better!

@yingyang3321 5 лет назад

i stay with my g85, not the difference for getting a new body

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

The G85 is such an awesome camera!

@bigdhav 5 лет назад

G9 has "terminator mode"😁

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Lol what is this terminator mode people have been talking about?? I’m late to the game lol

@bigdhav 5 лет назад

@@b3naqua look for "night mode" it makes all the menus and display only red for night photography.

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Oooooh spooky!

@taikiskitchen8174 5 лет назад

I could hardly understand the difference (^ ^ The selling price is very different

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Yes! It’s hard to tell the difference between the photos unless you zoom in very close!

@taikiskitchen8174 5 лет назад

I plan to buy Panasonic mirrorless. I am thinking about G85 · GH5 Thanks to your video I thought G85 well (^ ^)

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Both the G85 and GH5 are amazing! The G85 is cheaper and awesome, but if you need more advanced video options like slow motion and better bitrates, get the GH5. The GH5 is overall more powerful, but also bigger and more expensive.

@taikiskitchen8174 5 лет назад

That is exactly the case! The weakness of G85 (slow motion and better bitrates) is the point where I get lost. GH 5 is just the price. We will make a final judgment after confirming the cheap version of rumor GH 5 (^ ^)

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

Yes! The GH5 can be pretty expensive, yes. The price is going down though! Sometimes you can find good deals on used ones on eBay and Amazon. Once Panasonic announces their newer cameras, the price of the GH5 and other cameras will continue to decrease. Yayyyy

@THEISAAC1593 5 лет назад

I'll just keep my g85

@b3naqua 5 лет назад

👍🏼

@joeprete7424 5 лет назад

+Ben Aqua you're looking for sharpness in detail (like at 5:54) with both lenses set at F1.4? That's not fair to either camera. One could also argue that even two copies of the same lens might produce different results! ...And where the hell did you get TWO 25mm F1.4 DG lenses?