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Panasonic GH5 Best Camera Settings Explained For Good Video Autofocus 

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Panasonic GH5 Best Camera Settings Explained For Good Video Autofocus
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@RyanChoo
@RyanChoo 7 лет назад
Hi Peter, thank you for sharing your findings on the auto focus aspect of the GH5. After much comparison, I observed that the earlier sequence recorded on the GH4 to be sharper than the GH5's sequence. Also, the focus you acquire on the GH5 before recording seems to be on the whiteboard instead of your face which might be the reason why the GH5 sequence seems to be less sharp than the GH4. The part 18:18 to 18:28 where your hand is in front of your face for the GH5 to track on continuous auto focus seems to show that the GH5 was locked to your previous focus before you hit the record button as it could not focus on your hand. As such, it seems like the GH5 is not really performing continuous auto focusing. My guess was the auto focus speed set to +3.
@AANasseh
@AANasseh 7 лет назад
Peter, one more thing. The + sign you mentioned for the focus on the app is not for focus. There are two touch functions in the app. The + sign is actual touch AE (Autoexposure!) The box, however, is the AF. The best way to use the app is to touch on the forhead for AE touch (face exposure) and touch on the Face for AF Box. Choose either AF Locked on at -3 for Continuous AF and Sensitivity of -2 (no hunting) or better yet, keep it on AFS (Single AF) and you will have no problems. You touch, it focuses, and it stays! :)
@AANasseh
@AANasseh 7 лет назад
Brilliant Peter!! I have found the sam thing about hitting record and the camera prioritizing on initial AF! And that's why the App is the trick for those folks who want to use it as single shooters. The App is fantastic. If you're not self shooting the only situation where you need AF is on a gimbal. If you're behind the camera and want to change focus then just touch focus on the back of the camera. It's very fast and accurate that way .. the camera should otherwise be on Single shot AF and focus be changed with Touch to focus.
@derrickridley1504
@derrickridley1504 7 лет назад
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@SBBLURAY1
@SBBLURAY1 7 лет назад
I admire your trying to work with the limitations of this camera and humbly admitting that you are trying to work within the limits of this camera as opposed to all the other Panny fanboys trying to say this focusing system is great on this camera.
@mudgie069
@mudgie069 7 лет назад
Great video and very helpful for people wanting to use CAF with the GH5 and it'll probably help with other models (G80, GX80).
@eksmaan
@eksmaan 7 лет назад
I love this camera. No complaints with mine.
@matahari1576
@matahari1576 7 лет назад
Merry Christmas Peter. Nice style you have! Related to the GH5: As long as the sensor gets enough light, it works. In mediocre lighning conditions it might not work anymore. Happened to me, even with the Sony A7RII and the Zeiss 16-70 f4 in an Office with not too bad of ligh situation.
@martydenson_mfm
@martydenson_mfm 7 лет назад
Thank you, Peter. Really looking at getting 2 GH5's as my go to cameras for my wedding cinematography. Love the video features in the Panasonic GH series. I do have the "MJPEG Jail" camera but I primarily use that for stills.
@jaaypeso
@jaaypeso 7 лет назад
Great video. I found very similar things in my gh5 tests
@FourKnown
@FourKnown 7 лет назад
Great video Peter! Very helpful. Thanks for doing your homework first and not just recording your learning process. Nicely done. Like so many others, I just got my GH5 too and am loving it!
@mobileteam558
@mobileteam558 5 лет назад
My grandmother says thank you for the easy explaination
@henryzhang9915
@henryzhang9915 6 лет назад
your gh4 image is all good as anyone can possibly ask for. can't imagine what it'd be when you put your gh5 on it.
@charbax
@charbax 7 лет назад
Nice, could you go outside interview some people in handheld mode? (maybe you can interview the Trump at Marelago?) I'd like to see if you can get the auto focus to stay well put and not pulse not hunt too much. My guess is Panasonic can bring up auto focus performance to same level at 24p and 30p as it is in 60p in a firmware update. I'm lucky cause if I get the GH5 I only care about 60p. I thought from other videos that the AF was better when in Locked on mode?
@thehayeslife
@thehayeslife 5 лет назад
Hi there. I just got the gh5 and am trying to learn it. Can you please give what color setting you used for this video? Natural, cine d etc... Also, did you change any of the custom setting inside the one you used? Thanks so much!
@SheldonCharron
@SheldonCharron 7 лет назад
It looked to me like the focus was locked on the white board, and when you were closer to the table, you were slightly soft. Your face was way sharper when you were at the board. I saw zero change in the focus. For instance, the black box of the GHF on the edge of the table did NOT come into sharp focus when you were leaning against it. What f-stop and ISO were you shooting at?
@_tographer
@_tographer 7 лет назад
You've listed it as responsiveness (top) at +5 and speed (bottom) at +3 | I'm a little confused because in the camera it's listed at speed (top) -5 to +5 and sensitivity (bottom) -3 to +3 | just looking for clarification so I know what settings you're actually using so I can test it myself. Also, adding that info into the RU-vid description would be helpful. Thanks!
@PeterGregg
@PeterGregg 7 лет назад
The photo and video settings are different. I spoke of the video settings but remembered the photo settings in the video :) You are more in depth on this so here is a little more info: AF Speed and AF Sensitivity is what we have to work with, as I am sure you know. Speed is slow to fast, which is how quick it will "slide" into the focus as a focus puller would do (when it decides to focus on a new spot). Sensitivity is listed as how likely it is to change from what it is already focused on. These numbers would change depending on if you are following a child or a faster moving subject (skateboarder) or a more static subject like me standing at the desk and talking. For me standing at the desk and talking I set it to +3/-3. The means it is quicker to slide into the focus, but more reluctant to change from what it it is focused on. It will still continue to focus even when it stays locked on me. In my case. I don't want it to change to my white board or blinking tree lights easily, but to "stay awake" on it's job of keeping me in focus. And that there is where the problem is. It seems to fall asleep. Different definitions range from not enough processor power, to not a high enough frame rate, to 4K overwhelms it compared to running the camera at 1080. The results are always the same though, works okay, but not pro level like the DPF from Canon. Just opened a little M5, no 4K, crappy 1080, but the focus is dead on. Exchange emails thru my website contacts page (petergregg.com) and we can talk on the phone.
@colinbent8089
@colinbent8089 7 лет назад
Excellent presentation! So much of what others have done on the GH5 is so technical and almost non-understandable by the ungeekified photographer. Thanks for taking the time to put in layman terms!
@HybridlifeOrg
@HybridlifeOrg 7 лет назад
Great video Peter. Many thanks. After Max vids I was afraid that my brand new GH5 (I spent a revenue for that) was worst than the G7 I just sold. But it's seems to be very good with the settings in the video and mainly the 1rst step, focus before recording. Except very low light condition (dark objects or walls), it works very well. It won't be the best for sure, but I have to deal with theses limitations. It's a great camera anyway with a stuning video quality. Some classical functions like post focus, focus bracketing are really excellent.
@theCameraVille
@theCameraVille 7 лет назад
Peter, excellent video sir! You are charming and sincere. I love this channel !
@moltenpros
@moltenpros 7 лет назад
If I have to do all of that to get the camera to focus half good then I'll pass. Although if you don't care about autofocus, this is still a great camera. Thank you, Peter, for making the video.
@ArcticRc
@ArcticRc 7 лет назад
Thank you Sir. A great video. Do you have a tip for me. Im shooting RC planes and helicopters in high speed. i got my GH5 e few weeks ago. And i wanna get the best setting for these project.
@ThereGoesSpider
@ThereGoesSpider 7 лет назад
Hi, Peter. A lot of people are reporting problems with the codec being recognized in PP and also my beloved FCPX? You know anything about that? Or, could you share possible reasons for that problem? Thanks so much🙏
@DenisUspeshny
@DenisUspeshny 7 лет назад
the best setting I found is ALL-I mode fullHD50, the camera controls everything and autofocus becomes perfect.
@shiznuts
@shiznuts 7 лет назад
Not bad! Yeah, you've got to know the restrictions of your camera and know how to stay within its limitations. But then you're all good. There's still the infamous 'focus snap' at times, but what can you do. It's not Canon's DualPixel AF and not like Sony's AF either. Deal with the limitations or use MF already. 😄 Not sure why people suddenly started to make a dealbreaker out of it, people having been managing to shoot stuff without silky smooth C-AF for decades. GH5 still makes for a damn cool camera!
@rich4363
@rich4363 7 лет назад
Shiznutsz because now vlogging is a thing.
@noige6306
@noige6306 7 лет назад
cheers peter.
@d3xmeister
@d3xmeister 7 лет назад
Great video
@IntersexGamer
@IntersexGamer 7 лет назад
Absolutely nothing helpful to say but i am definitely jealous. I wish I could afford a new top end camera. My last one was a d300s when I tried to start a business right before the recession hit so it got sold to pay bills.
@ElefitTV
@ElefitTV 7 лет назад
Jingles giving you the the high 5s! haha
@orange42
@orange42 7 лет назад
amaaaaaaaaazing! so good
@markpleasant3361
@markpleasant3361 7 лет назад
Fun video and very helpful Peter! Love your set! Thank You! I may be on the wrong menu screen but in the "AF Custom Setting(Video) - Set menu - I see 2 setting possibilities "AF Speed" and "AF Sensitivity". The AF Speed is adjustable from -5 to +5 in the AF Sensitivity adjustment scale we have "Locked On" at one end of the settings scale adjustable to a -3 and at the other end of the scale "Responsive" at a +3 as a max adjustment on the scale. You mention setting Responsiveness to +5 which I can't seem to do , if I'm in the correct menu. I need clarification if possible. Thanks!
@PeterGregg
@PeterGregg 7 лет назад
No, actually you are right, I had them backwards. But I settled in on +3 and +3 after the video was over :)
@markpleasant3361
@markpleasant3361 7 лет назад
Sounds great! One's always entitled to change their mind!!! LOL THANKS! Just got mine yesterday so this is all good info to know!
@ERPRocks
@ERPRocks 7 лет назад
How, if at all, would your recommendations change if recording in a difficult light environment such as band playing at a gig?
@taib0
@taib0 7 лет назад
Thank you, very informative
@heatherrai574
@heatherrai574 7 лет назад
I KNEW you were going to write MJPG Jail :-D Hehe. It made me laugh. Love your videos.
@richardvandenboogaard8836
@richardvandenboogaard8836 7 лет назад
Can you explain why you would prefer 60p over 30p, given you leave the codec settings untouched? If a camera has to record information in twice as many frames within an identical available bitrate, how can this possibly *improve* the quality? The normal framerate is always half the current frequency: ie in the USA it's 60Hz, in Europe it's 50Hz, hence 30p vs 25p. Likewise, shutter speed should be twice the framerate. If you leave your shutter speed at 1/60th at 60p, the motion blur increases, but if you double that to 1/125th (1/50th to 1/100th in Europe), you'll lose a stop of light.
@CreativeExperiments1
@CreativeExperiments1 7 лет назад
Do you have the Speed and Sensitivity reversed? You said Speed was on the bottom, but it's at the top of the menu. Speed sounds more like the thing that would cause the pulsing effect, not the sensitivity. From what I heard, the sensitivity determines how easy it is to "distract" the camera, like following a horse on a race track and a person in the stadium blocks the view for a second causing the camera to loose focus if the sensitivity is set too high.
@vhc7764
@vhc7764 7 лет назад
Hello Peter...was just wondering if you planned any additional videos re the GH5 video autofocus issue. It's still a problem and continues to generate quite a bit of interest. I'm not just talking about the obligatory beatings meted by the Sony champions, but there are most likely many folks on the fence or owners concerned by Panasonic's seemingly lack of interest to resolve this issue other than to blame the consumers. Thank you
@PeterGregg
@PeterGregg 7 лет назад
There really is no focus issue. The focus "came to the forefront" because of Panasonics own blabbing that they had a great focus system when they don't. The truth is it is better than their former flagship (GH4) but still not in the league of the Canon or the Sony. Just to say something to cheer you up though, the CEO of the cameras for Panasonic says they are working on firmware for the focus system to make it the best of the best. Right. And as the saying goes - monkeys might ect. . . . . lol. When you are behind the camera and working it yourself, the tap-to-focus in video mode is not bad at all. Much MUCH better than the GH4. Just to let the camera run without operator intervention though is not good enough for higher end use. Unless Panasonic can pull a miracle, I don't think they will match Sony or Canon until there is a GH6 - just in my own opinion. For still pictures though, the camera is right at the top competing with the flagships from ALL the companies - and in lower light too.
@kaupovaldmann8826
@kaupovaldmann8826 6 лет назад
Hey I have problem with saving the settings. If I change fn buttons or something in menu and save it all to sd card. Still will be back like it was when I change video or photo modes or switch camera off and on. Need some help...
@Forthejoyofphotography
@Forthejoyofphotography 7 лет назад
HiI am sure you have settings wrong way round. Responsiveness is either + or minus 3 stops. Speed is + or minus 5 stops when I go into my GH5 custom settings. Frame area is 225Very useful info. Any more settings or tip bits gratefully gobbled up!
@bipaquin2
@bipaquin2 7 лет назад
Hi Peter, I want to buy a new Panasonic GH5 for make "Real Estate Video Walkthrough" using a Stabilizer, and I worry that the GH5 may have problems with the focus on this type of videos. ¿ Can I use the GH5 and keep a great focus while walk through the House or there are other better camera option in this price range for this type of videos ? Sorry for my english, I'm using google translator.
@PeterGregg
@PeterGregg 7 лет назад
The GH5 gives you advantages. One of them is the sensor size. It create s a depth of field advantage that will be helpful in your situation. With a super wide angle lens and the added DOF on top of that the GH5 should do just fine and even surprise you :)
@kontrabjorn
@kontrabjorn 7 лет назад
Where in the menu do I set responsiveness and speed?
@lightning6718
@lightning6718 7 лет назад
😋I noticed that the auto focus is not working when you are in the video M mode. Please tell me that I have the wrong setting.
@zagan1
@zagan1 7 лет назад
so I guess this camera has hit the spot
@johnjon1823
@johnjon1823 7 лет назад
Perfect video except you left the c out of acquire - but don't worry I left the c out of acquaint on 150 cover letters for my resume once and survived quite well anyway. Best wishees - that should make us even - God bless ;)
@PeterGregg
@PeterGregg 7 лет назад
That's funny, and that is true :) I call it "live TV" and going back to rerecord videos is not something I want to do. I also kept saying 256 focus points - and it is really 225 :) I make lots of mistakes, but that is just part of my life lol. But I DO try to be better and better :)
@johnjon1823
@johnjon1823 7 лет назад
I know how it is - there is no perfection in this world especially with me- I think you do great work and provide fabulous information - keep it up! May God bless you!
@Bobyfototube
@Bobyfototube 7 лет назад
Thanks for explaining that Peter, I guess Max needs to watch your video to understand how the GH5 focus... Can you please do a comparison between the GH5 & the G85 , crop , focus and video quality ???
@ookiemand
@ookiemand 7 лет назад
YES please! - I love to know before I buy the G85 :)
@Bobyfototube
@Bobyfototube 7 лет назад
This is a popular demand Peter , we're hanging there waiting on your review of GH5 vs G85 , please !
@SBBLURAY1
@SBBLURAY1 7 лет назад
The contrast detection system sucks. Listen to him saying "You need to acquire focus first" and THEN start your recording. Oh please, all this gymnastics to try to make this garbage system work.
@Levoxel
@Levoxel 7 лет назад
Wow, i don't understand. When you put the GH5 on, the resolution is just gone, compared to the gh4 !
@allord7664
@allord7664 7 лет назад
The best still The best, only CANON 5D mark 4 is the one that you should stick with it >>>>> it is amazing camera i gust love it
@BobbyWashingtonvlog
@BobbyWashingtonvlog 7 лет назад
N W your right. canon is mushy. I did a video test of the gh5 and added the 5d mark 3 in the video on my channel.
@KabouLaRasa
@KabouLaRasa 7 лет назад
How much % i Can Zoom in without loose qualiti in a Record
@PromoMoviescomau
@PromoMoviescomau 7 лет назад
Not a fan of the "pulsing" into focus when going from far to near... Also, seems to me like the whiteboard was always in focus and not you! GH4 sharper, But GH5 better low light (in the background).
@JoshuaDanger
@JoshuaDanger 6 лет назад
Gotta get to the point. No reason for this vid to be so long
@dorsmap
@dorsmap 7 лет назад
Great video but its a bit confusing because the GH4 shot looks so much better and sharper than the GH5 shot which then makes people think the 4 is a better camera because you state you are using the same lens
@PeterGregg
@PeterGregg 7 лет назад
Personally, I think the GH5 was focused on the white board at the beginning making me look softer while the GH4 focus square on me. I am about a foot closer to the camera than the white board (no, I can't move it forward lol). Later in the video I look sharper because the focus on me was proper. At least that is what I saw after the fact. Proves why focus is so critical and the f 1.2 uncovers what higher f stops hide for focus accuracy.
@dorsmap
@dorsmap 7 лет назад
I see thanks for the explanation Peter
@pckuching3374
@pckuching3374 7 лет назад
ok understand, the logic totally difference from canon and sony when out of the box, panasonic still relay on logic and sony and canon already use their AI, you need to do a vlog outside the room with this setting.
@jasestoytime990
@jasestoytime990 6 лет назад
My GH five came in the mail today arrived broken and is now going back tomorrow I didn’t even get it for one day
@html5guys
@html5guys 7 лет назад
Is it just me? Shots from GH4 seems to be much sharper than from GH5... Look at the hair - I also see much more latitude on GH4 shots than on GH5.
@PeterGregg
@PeterGregg 7 лет назад
I think the GH5 was more attracted to the white board more than me :) This would make me look a bit soft where the GH4 didn't have a choice and it had to focus where I told it. So - agreed :)
@ForceOfWizardry
@ForceOfWizardry 7 лет назад
lol this is silly! Why cant the auto focus just work on any setting? I dare you take the camera outside in a real test following running children/dogs etc. it wont survive!
@mikehannon3536
@mikehannon3536 7 лет назад
To be fair, I think that in the locked down master shot the GH5 is focusing on the easel, and not on Peter.
@kenross6028
@kenross6028 7 лет назад
I was thinking the same thing and it explains why the GH4 looked sharper. But I 'focused' more on Peter's tests when he was holding the camera and moving it around. Those tests were excellent and very sharp. My GH5 has been excellent in terms of AF.
@truevilmeow
@truevilmeow 7 лет назад
60th/sec? Any reason you're not using a shutter angle of 180? (120th/sec due to 60fps)
@ookiemand
@ookiemand 7 лет назад
Maybe maybe he likes the blur to be just as long as at 30p?
@toxotis70
@toxotis70 7 лет назад
CAF is just ok.. but worst than canon and sony. It has the same problems that every CDAF system has.
@overthetarget9401
@overthetarget9401 7 лет назад
Conclusion after 24:11 minutes - the AF is not very good, pretty bad actually. Let's just say if you want to do run-and-gun video this camera is not for you.
@PeterGregg
@PeterGregg 7 лет назад
Actually you can if you "work" the camera. Let it autofocus, but only where and when you say so. It's like saying a manual transmission is not for city driving, when I know I love a nice manual transmission in a very fast car :)
@realvaughnfelix
@realvaughnfelix 7 лет назад
I'll take 1.74 crop and dual pixel focus any day
@peterbutler6126
@peterbutler6126 7 лет назад
Here was my test using 60p. Works great! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-aeeik2SJuo4.html
@dfj555
@dfj555 7 лет назад
No phase detection plus hard time focusing. I'll pass on this one.
@dfj555
@dfj555 7 лет назад
:)
@MrMittens1974
@MrMittens1974 7 лет назад
Dorne Johnson Yeah all the pros use autofocus.
@dfj555
@dfj555 7 лет назад
Hey Satan, I'm a street photographer snapping photos for my pleasure, not a starving professional photographer begging and scrapping for any job to come by.
@ArcticRc
@ArcticRc 7 лет назад
Thank you Sir. A great video. Do you have a tip for me. Im shooting RC planes and helicopters in high speed. i got my GH5 e few weeks ago. And i wanna get the best setting for these project.
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