My solution was to get both. If you can only afford one go G85. If you have the budget and need a B cam for video, also pick up the GX. It's a great combo!
Thank you for this. I want the G85 so bad, but it was hard to ignore the 400$ price difference with the GX85 (with the current rebates). So I ordered the GX85 instead and looks like as far as the video capabilities go. Both cameras are pretty much the same.
I ended up going with a G7 w/ a stabilizer, external mic & rig cage to make up for the lack of features. Total cost $950. Professional 4K Quality under $1k
A bit off topic, but do you recommend any mics for field use? Mostly our host reporting on local events, ribbon cuttings, interviewing community members etc. Currently using a Rode MicPro but I'm worried about BG noise.
Great video. I'm trying to decide at the moment between these 2 cameras. I can pick up the g80 with 12~60 for just under €960 or the gx80 with 12~33 & 35~100 for €850 with €240 cash back. In most reviews there is little to no difference in image quality between to two just couple extra features so I am leaning towards the Gx80 with the 2 lenses. Any reason why I should be thinking any different? All opinions appreciated ☺️
The GX80 seems like a nice deal and with the cash back you can always get a third lens like a fast 25mm 1.7 or 42.5 1.7. The G80 is weather sealed and has better ergonomics (you can feel the difference with large lenses especially), otherwise the GX80 is an excellent camera.
Mathieu Gasquet thanks for the input. At the moment I am really struggling with this decision which seems to change hourly😂 I'm thinking now maybe the gx80 body only, skip the kit lense and put the cash towards a good prime. Better off with 1 good lense over 2 OK lenses. My budget isn't huge so would like to get best glass possible for the cash.
At all, I like the G85 more. I think, the pictures and videos are more shaper and natural. It actually has a better autofocus and better made features as well.
love your videos! was I mistaken to see more noise on the G85 around the green elephant teddy bear during the 12-60 Dual IS comparison? I have the G85 and have been struggling with noise indoors. Might need to invest in a fast zoom! Also speaking of noise (audible noise) from the G85? have you noticed the humming sound? especially noticable with my rode top mic. Would KILL for the GX85 if it had a microphone jack :/ Have a great day!!
Ben Fox 12-60 is not ideal for low light shootings, not very bright albeit very good for travels thanks to its compact size, ideal focal range and weather resistance. You should maybe have a look at the f/2.8 zoom lenses or fixed focal lenses which provide you much more light to play with. A good start would be 25mm f/1.7 or 15mm f/1.7 :)
Hey guys! Video at 1:05 shot on the same profile/WB settings? G85 looks warmer. I know that's not the point of the video, but I've found my GX85 footage a bit cold.
i don't see major difference between the 2 so what is a purpose of a bigger camera when GX85 is smaller and capable of doing the same thing, same megapixel too. size is also the reason people move to MFT
The G85 is more comfortable if use longer lenses like the 100-400mm for example. Also the viewfinder is better and larger than the GX85. But yes the GX85 is more compact and portable.
Hey Mathieu, I'm going to Europe in 6 months (winter), so I'm considering to buy either the G85 or GX85 for black friday. I wanted to buy the GX85 because of the price difference and the compactness, but I'm worried about the weather. How will it handle in the snow and light rain? Is there any external weather protection I could put on it? Or should I just go for the G85 that is weather sealed? Thanks!
IMO the G85 has slightly better low light performance, slightly better colour algorithm/science, slightly better rolling shutter. For me, because the G85 seems to preserve a little bit more information, you’d be able to do more in post with your footage than the gx85.
So from your experience how do you think the ISO, autofocus, and stabilization compares to the new Olympus OMD 1 Mark II? I know their new 12-100 f4 gives a bit better stabilization, but this is for a lens that is not especially fast.
If can only choose one base on form factor, which one will be for both video and photo, street, travel, everyday camera, product shoot, video and so on
If you want to do a little bit of everything, the micro four thirds system could be the best option to start with. Panasonic has excellent hybrid cameras capable of doing great stills and great video, like the G85 for example.
The G85 has the best ergonomics, especially if you plan to use telephoto lenses in the future. The GX8 is good as well but I remember having lots of shutter shock issues with that camera (Panasonic re-designed the shutter mechanism for the next models).
is this after the most recent firmware update for the G85 where the IBIS issues were fixed? the G85 also has a new feature where you can increase the AF sensitivity to make it auto focus faster..
No unfortunately because we had to send back the camera before the firmware was online. However we didn't notice any particular IBIS issue on our sample. We tried the AF sensitivity as well but it doesn't make a big difference.
Ivan Vasyliev Dual I.S.2 with firmware 1.0 was really effective for static shots but had sticky movements when paning (horizontally, vertically or diagonally). A new firmware came out to solve that issue and make stabilization when panning almost as effective as Dual I.S. However, some user reports suggest that firmware 1.1 made Dual I.S.2 less effective to allow better panning, resulting in worse results at very long focal lengths. For instance, when using the 14-140mm on the G85, you can definitely see the jitters at 140mm whereas footage is absolutely stable and jitterless on the GX85 with the same setting.
+Made in ABRUZZO it happens because the camera uses contrast detection only so it isn't the best for fast subjects. Otherwise the AF is fast in Single mode.
The quality is the same really when it comes to high ISO. It's more the lens that can make a difference. A sharp prime with a fast aperture will give you better results.
I tried the M5 but not the M50, but they are similar. It's a good design, very straightforward to use. But there are less lenses than with micro four thirds, and the Panasonic is better concerning video I think.
It is present on the GX85 as well. It is more noticeable with long focal lengths and I've seen similar issues with Olympus cameras too. It's a limit of image stabilisation system although they are slowly improving in that direction. I explain the phenomenon in my other video here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FeiqmnIm6CA.htmlm36s
They're pretty much the same. The only difference is the Cine-Like D profile on the G85 that gives you slightly more DR to work with. The G85 also has a Mic input. If you want a complete comparison, you can check out our article here: mirrorlesscomparison.com/panasonic-vs-panasonic/lumix-g85-vs-gx85-g80-vs-gx80/
Thanks for the comparison. Do you think that paying an extra $200 for the G85 for better ergonomic and usability for someone show always shoot manual is worth it?
In tony northrup review of gh4 he noted that the gh4 hunts for focus while in continuous autofocus. He was recording the review at a fixed distance from the gh4 and it kept hunting for focus. Does that happen with g85 as well. Can you test a 10 min recording where you are a fixed distance away from the camera and see if it loses focus in those 10 mins or not
+Ray Myers I often use a Sandisk Extreme Pro 64GB SDXC U3 class10 (95mb/s). I had fine results also with Sandisk Extreme 16GB SDHC I U1 Class 10 cards (45mb/s).