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Panasonic S 20-60mm First Impressions Review 

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The Panasonic 20-60mm F3.5-5.6 is smaller and lighter than Panasonic's F2.8 zooms for L-mount, and 20-60mm is a great range for wide angle photographers.
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@andytee88
@andytee88 4 года назад
20-60 is more versatile than the traditional 24-70 IMO, it should be the new standard
@youknowwho9247
@youknowwho9247 4 года назад
I feel like 16-35 and 35-135 should be the standard.
@MudvayneS10
@MudvayneS10 4 года назад
@@youknowwho9247 Or 14-28 and 28-135?
@ArumesYT
@ArumesYT 4 года назад
@@MudvayneS10 Or 12-24 and 24-70? And we're back where we started. :-)
@MudvayneS10
@MudvayneS10 4 года назад
@@ArumesYT No that is not the same at all.
@youknowwho9247
@youknowwho9247 4 года назад
@@MudvayneS10 I don't really agree. How often do you actually use the 14/15mm? I'd rather have the filter thread and a little bit more reach.
@IcebergGamingTop10s
@IcebergGamingTop10s 4 года назад
Glad to see brands taking advantage of the shorter flange distance to make some interesting designs
@scottgmaclean
@scottgmaclean 4 года назад
Quick, honest question: does the pressure to produce regular content ever put a strain on your friendship? You two are always great together and I love that we get photo and video coverage in your videos. I think the friendship dynamic is a real contributor to your work. Great content as usual!
@niccollsvideo
@niccollsvideo 4 года назад
It's like any marriage. Deep down there is a lot of love though.
@ASMROW
@ASMROW 3 года назад
1:19 that shot with the black rabbit was beautiful. I wish I could live there. And just ordered this lens with my new lumix S5, thank you.
@daliamosesp
@daliamosesp 2 года назад
i have this lens, it's sharp corner to corner throughout the range.. i'm really impressed with it
@Elgsdyr
@Elgsdyr 4 года назад
Why is Chris wearing more clothes than he does in the winter?
@stoikerty
@stoikerty 4 года назад
I just realised you guys never did a proper review on the 10-25mm f1.7, when is it coming? I've had the lens for a few months now and even with a lot of high-end primes already in my kit, I find it hard to sell and let go of. Even with its size, it's just too damn convenient, great image quality and also because of the 20mm full-frame eq. wide-angle. I agree with a lot of other commenters, 20mm at the wide end should be the new zoom standard rather than the typical 24.
@nickharris5231
@nickharris5231 4 года назад
They did a review before it was released.
@chrisw443
@chrisw443 4 года назад
That's the best intro I have ever seen! Professional.
@michaelfitzhenry
@michaelfitzhenry 4 года назад
I applaud the effort to get a focal range like this. I've been wanting something small to shoot at f8 (with flash or for landscape etc) and I've always been bothered by the classic midrange zooms cut off at 24mm, making you need and additional lens for wider than 24. 24-105mm, for example, has never been my ideal. I'd much rather have 20-85 and forego the UWA zoom. Rumored RF 17-75mm might just be the dream, but this looks one good to me too. The kind of thing that could be paired with 2 fast primes
@DeepteshLovesTECH
@DeepteshLovesTECH 4 года назад
Hey Dpreview how about a video taking a look at how the L mount alliance system has evolved in 2020. Looking at the lens line up in 2020.
@philsaunter1956
@philsaunter1956 4 года назад
It's a good move. With all the Megapixels nowadays it's easy to crop. So if you are after the Zoom portion of tele lenses you can overcome shortcomings to a certain extent. 24mm is always 24, nothing you can really do in post to make it wider.
@davidwoods80
@davidwoods80 4 года назад
Nailed it; this lens is for their next generation full-frame. No motivation for anyone already owning the 'kit' zoom already available for S1 series. That said, come on, Lumix -- don't rely on Sigma for more L-mount primes; your lenses are great and we want MORE!
@ignorance_is_strenght
@ignorance_is_strenght 4 года назад
Right on time. Just having my coffee-break here. Very nice pictures (and video) - greetings from Switzerland.
@bavideomaker29
@bavideomaker29 4 года назад
Wow Chris...you called it. This should be great with the S5.
@JourneymanActor
@JourneymanActor 4 года назад
This is some of the best images I've ever seen from these reviews. I think this was built for the hybrid shooter. 20-60 screams RU-vidr. 👍
@DoubleGauss
@DoubleGauss 3 года назад
In fact if you look closely it has RU-vid engraved on the barrel.
@grantyale
@grantyale 4 года назад
1:07 is that Jordan swimming?
@thatjordandrake
@thatjordandrake 4 года назад
I thought the shot needed a compositional element at the top of the frame, so I grabbed my wetsuit.
@pradeepg29
@pradeepg29 2 года назад
I love how he’s predicting the s5 before it happened
@mediamannaman
@mediamannaman 2 года назад
Or... he had an insider's heads up and was trying to sound prophetic.
@FotoSunMY
@FotoSunMY 4 года назад
OMG... Lumix S3 full frame entry with articulating LCD + 20-60mm... perfect combo for vlogger !
@dadanardi5541
@dadanardi5541 4 года назад
too heavy...
@DoubleGauss
@DoubleGauss 3 года назад
You are off by 2. It's called the S5, not S3.
@MarkHoltze
@MarkHoltze 4 года назад
best part about lens reviews is just getting out there to shoot. You can make a million excuses why you are too busy to go out any shoot any other time, but when you're lens reviewing.....that IS your excuse to get out. "I have to go shoot this lens review" lol. Lens is interesting for my S1H, not sure...I'm kind of eyeing up the 24-70 Sigma 2.8 L mount. Great video you guys!!
@yourtallness
@yourtallness 4 года назад
4:16 when the scenery sneaks up on you
@ASMROW
@ASMROW 3 года назад
Kalo
@MadEnglishTV
@MadEnglishTV 4 года назад
Awesome to see Panasonic doing something new unlike Nikon.
@jan-hendrikbussmann4644
@jan-hendrikbussmann4644 4 года назад
Now, Tamron, would you please build that focal range for Sony E? Would buy.
@TVe200
@TVe200 4 года назад
20-60 is an interesting focal lenght. For me much better than 28-70.
@castielvargastv7931
@castielvargastv7931 4 года назад
Ja its better for most people
@BootStrapTurnerVideography
@BootStrapTurnerVideography 2 года назад
Received this lens as part of the DC-S5KP-K kit with the S5. Actually quite nice for a base kit lens.
@balboa0621
@balboa0621 4 года назад
Yeah, Panasonic definitely needs to offer a smaller, lighter FF body. I would consider buying into the system if that was offered.
@castielvargastv7931
@castielvargastv7931 4 года назад
Ja they need to build a eosr clone with flippy screen but with ibis to. Basically a fullframe gh5 like the s1 was expected to be. I dont mind the s1 being big but the lack of a flipout screen kills it dor me. I will stay with my gh5 until another camera can give me what it has and more , without breaking the bank
@Marticulate
@Marticulate 4 года назад
@@castielvargastv7931. Agree. I feel they missed the mark with the L mount series. I shoot the GH5 professionally but was never tempted to the S cameras because there's too many misses, especially the screen. Would love to see the S1H screen though on future and more compact versions if possible.
@nielskersic328
@nielskersic328 4 года назад
I love that Chris is still not willing to. give up on the old tripod
@niccollsvideo
@niccollsvideo 4 года назад
Part of me feels like it's time for a new one. Part of me feels like painters tape can fix anything.
@danny_r27
@danny_r27 2 года назад
Sweet, I’ll get this with my future S5 and also get the 35mm f/1.8 as a fast prime. I love my G9 but it’s too big for what it is. I’ll be selling it to help fund the S5 purchase. I’ll still have my Olympus M5 III for micro four thirds but it’s time I went into full frame and Panasonic are making it affordable to do so unlike other brands with their expensive entry level bodies and lenses.
@WilsonWongWilzWorkz
@WilsonWongWilzWorkz 3 года назад
I just wondered, after the launch of the S5, what are Chris thoughts about this lens with the S5? I am thinking of getting the S5 but on the fence whether to get this as a kit or go straight to a f2.8 lens in the L mount line up.
@flagger2020
@flagger2020 Год назад
It came with my S5.. it's good, meets expectations fine.. with S5 ibis it's actually great in low light. If I need more, I shoot Sigma primes.. or my K-01 with limited 31mm.. I mean K1..
@danieldougan269
@danieldougan269 Месяц назад
I love that Sony said, "I'll see your 20-60 and raise you a 20-70mm f4!"
@itsryanwilkes
@itsryanwilkes 4 года назад
How am I supposed to achieve Toneh with that aperture?
@TheKimNeeper
@TheKimNeeper 3 года назад
You focus REALLY close ;) From 20-28mm this can focus at like less than 1 inch from the lens, you can get tons of Toneh this way, and it looks great - but it quickly gets boring shooting small things up close like that. But it's well built, sharp, great colours, focuses great, it will get everyone who buys it hooked on native Panasonic lenses, which then costs a fortune and huge and heavy.
@steventhomas231
@steventhomas231 4 года назад
I'd love Nikon to make one instead of the traditional and dull 24-70s. Nice light weight.for travel. Great focal length.
@jshanni2066
@jshanni2066 4 года назад
No coincidence that a smaller S5 rumoured to be announced in next few weeks.
@nicholasthedoor
@nicholasthedoor 3 года назад
He nailed it @5:44
@SirMardog
@SirMardog 4 года назад
How would you rate this lens against the sigma 14 -24mm for video. Would you see a significant improvement in sharpness
@YourStoryStudios
@YourStoryStudios 4 года назад
Interesting lens! Not completely sold on it though. Might save money and invest in a 70-200mm F2.8 - currently happy with the 24-105mm F4 though!
@davidp158
@davidp158 2 года назад
Does this 20-60 lens benefit from the linear focus ability when focusing manually? The 24mm Pany lens seems to offer this, even without a focusing clutch like the Pany S Pro 24-70. I find this allows for more accurate manual focusing, and even helps when using a follow focus system. Per the Pany 24mm: "Benefitting professional video applications, linear focus ring control for mechanical-based follow focus systems moves the focus at a constant speed in accordance with the rotating angle of the focus ring."
@lf2ut
@lf2ut 4 года назад
What a beautiful place
@thecircletv4271
@thecircletv4271 4 года назад
Like this lens. You guys really do your work. Can you all do a video on astro photography? Thanks!
@kovsol
@kovsol 4 года назад
I am a sony shooter and i would like to see lens like this from sony.
@davidmonroe6942
@davidmonroe6942 2 года назад
This lens is the main reason I didn’t go with Sony. I have a GX8 m43 camera and the A7C interested me, but not the kit lens starting at 28mm.
@JonathanBarrow
@JonathanBarrow 4 года назад
I want a lens like this for Sony. I like to vlog but don’t want to be limited by a small zoom range. Don’t necessarily need a super wide 16
@kaizen9986
@kaizen9986 4 года назад
best vlogger lens
@poudrieres
@poudrieres 4 года назад
I wonder when we will see the affordable body that goes with it - like a G9 with a FF sensor.
@omeharto288
@omeharto288 3 года назад
Well it's here now!
@doryiii
@doryiii 4 года назад
Where is this place and why is it that you guys have all the awesome nature?
@DeepteshLovesTECH
@DeepteshLovesTECH 4 года назад
I wish this lens had a constant aperture! 😞 With an affordable lens, is Panasonic indicating at an affordable full frame camera?
@Ulrich.Bierwisch
@Ulrich.Bierwisch 4 года назад
To me, this looks like the perfect kit-lens for an FF-version of the GX9. That should have IBIS, around 24MP, good video features and be small, light and less expensive.
@georgekn3mp
@georgekn3mp 3 года назад
Almost as if foreshadowing the lighter, more compact but still has IBIS Lumix S5 :) hmm as a kit lens too! I just got the S5 and want to try the new Lumix S 70mm-300mm....
@evenaicantfigurethisout
@evenaicantfigurethisout 4 года назад
how does it compare to the PL10-25? I know this may seem like an odd question at first glance but hear me out. I already have a G9, and want to get the PL10-25, but then S5 comes out. Here's the math: PL10-25 = USD1800 S5+20-60+45 = 2300. 2300-1800 = 500. This means, if the 20-60 is any bit as good as the 10-25, I'm getting the S5+45 for a mere 500. Bam!
@officialtiimo
@officialtiimo 4 года назад
Do you guys think that some of the softness wide open or the flare issues are caused in part by the more difficult to design for zoom range? Let's say, if there were a pro version of this that came in f2.8 for $2000, would it be just as nice as their 24-70?
@MarcyMoe
@MarcyMoe 4 года назад
review 16-35 f4 s pro please!
@MarcyMoe
@MarcyMoe 4 года назад
@DPReview PLEASE!
@garydmorris
@garydmorris 4 года назад
The 16-35 is a terrific. Lens. I had that lens for about 3 weeks. Shot it on my Leica CL and Leica SL. Then around week four the lens suddenly died. Auto focus would not work on either camera. I reset each camera and no improvement. Luck of the draw a bad copy. I did not purchase a replacement after returning the lens.
@harry54ck
@harry54ck Год назад
Please tell me anyone, which combo is used for making this review? I'm completely impressed with color science and details of this video. I'm very curious
@uhu4677
@uhu4677 4 года назад
I find it strange, that MFT got the big one (10-25mm f1.7), and FF this small one. I really hope, MFT will get a smaller one as well ... maybe a 10-50mm f2.8-f4 or 10-40mm f2-f2.8.
@Membrillo81
@Membrillo81 4 года назад
A 20-50mm f1.7 full frame would be utterly expensive and big.
@HarryPowerColt
@HarryPowerColt 4 года назад
The 10-25mm f1.7 is one of the sharpest lenses out there and the fastest zoom on the market. With a very challenging 20mp MFT sensor, it's impossible to make it smaller without losing IQ. This lens on FF would be much bigger.
@uhu4677
@uhu4677 4 года назад
@@Membrillo81 Of course it would be a 20-50mm f3.5 (or maybe f2.8, but not bigger).
@uhu4677
@uhu4677 4 года назад
@@HarryPowerColt I might not know enough about optics, but is there an actual physical reason, why an f2.8-zoom couldn't be as sharp? It sure is a very impressive lens, and I love, that MFT has an option like this. But even though I am very tempted, I prefer lighter gear.
@MrBobthened
@MrBobthened 4 года назад
@@uhu4677 no, it wouldn't. That's not how it works.
@eagleeatsmonkey3621
@eagleeatsmonkey3621 3 года назад
really hopes canon a have a copy of this or maybe better 4x zoom from 20-80mm... and smaller in size
@alxmea
@alxmea 2 года назад
perfect for the sigma fp (altough there's no OIS)
@TheGillar
@TheGillar 4 года назад
now I want 10-30mm f4 on mft...
@castielvargastv7931
@castielvargastv7931 4 года назад
I like the already existing 10-25 1.7 more
@professorford
@professorford 4 года назад
Not to be "that guy" but... slip frame edit at 3:34. Jordan, are you slipping???
@VariTimo
@VariTimo 4 года назад
I miss the conversions to Nikon Noct.
@thatjordandrake
@thatjordandrake 4 года назад
Sorry! This lens is just over 1/6th of a Noct.
@CS90
@CS90 4 года назад
Not using the NIKKOR Noct as a unit of weight anymore? What happened to you guys?
@johnjon1823
@johnjon1823 4 года назад
The flare reminds me of the panasonic 7-14 m43 lens which reminds me of "Office Space"
@I4get42
@I4get42 3 года назад
aaaaaand now it is a kit lens for the S5 :-D
@ethanHat
@ethanHat 4 года назад
Perfect vlogging lens!
@MrBobthened
@MrBobthened 4 года назад
who Vlogs on an S1?!?! It's very big and heavy, and it doesn't even have a fully articulating screen!
@DoubleGauss
@DoubleGauss 3 года назад
It's big and heavy only with the 24-105 on it. With this it should be very vlogable. Also it doesn't need an articulating screen. With your phone and the Lumix app your phone becomes the screen, and a much more convenient one too.
@soundknight
@soundknight 4 года назад
Saltanoblog said he knows of such an l mount camera coming out soon.
@ShutterKnack
@ShutterKnack 4 года назад
Can you guys please bring back "Unsung Cameras of the Yesteryear", pleaaaaseeeee?????
@GoMoreHike
@GoMoreHike 4 года назад
Hey unrelated question, but which lens should I get with a Fuji XT4? If you only had money to buy one lens? Congratulations on your success
@naysunhuang
@naysunhuang 4 года назад
depends on what you want to shoot. landscapes? portraits? etc
@GoMoreHike
@GoMoreHike 4 года назад
@@naysunhuang nature. Birds. Landscapes. And selfies and portraits
@KiinaSu
@KiinaSu 4 года назад
@@GoMoreHike There is not a single lens that can do all these things even half decent. Birds and Landscapes are literally on the opposite side of what you need. Also if you only had the money to buy one lens, don't get an XT4. Get a cheaper body so you have more budget.
@JonathanBarrow
@JonathanBarrow 3 года назад
I need this on emount ASAP. Maybe Someone can make it with plastics to make it lighter and make it a constant aperture. F4 or faster
@kanepesfilms
@kanepesfilms 3 года назад
Please share your camera settings of S1H on this shoot 🤞🏼
@ademdingin
@ademdingin 3 года назад
Gh5 + 12-35 f2.8 Vs S5 + 20-60 (sold as kit) Cost same, any recomendation ?
@Carrot_Handler
@Carrot_Handler 3 года назад
The S5 and kit, its what I have coming tomorrow. M43 is too limited for video due to poor low light performance and if you take photos full frame is the way to go.
@aiofilms
@aiofilms 4 года назад
This lens is perfect for Sigma fp.
@conservovirtus5796
@conservovirtus5796 3 года назад
This work well with the G9?
@quangpham4372
@quangpham4372 4 года назад
Did you purposefully leave out the maximum aperture?
@Simoneister
@Simoneister 4 года назад
It's in the thumbnail at least?
@the_real_adam_real
@the_real_adam_real 3 года назад
Foreshadowing the Lumix S5.
@tosvus
@tosvus 3 года назад
I'd love to see a similar focal range lens that is sharper than this for my S1R. If maybe it could be slightly larger and stay at 3.5 or 4, I'd happily pay twice as much. (though I don't know what is physically possible.. I'd be willing to give up a bit more on the tele end, so say 20-50)
@torakun3573
@torakun3573 2 года назад
What do you mean? It IS for S1 full frame series. Not micro four third mount
@tosvus
@tosvus 2 года назад
@@torakun3573 I know, but I want a faster and sharper version. I had the 20-60, it was ok, but ended up getting rid of it.
@torakun3573
@torakun3573 2 года назад
@@tosvus I see.. What do you replaced it with? I'm thinking of getting s1 used and 50mm f1.4 pro myself. I miss leica M's 50 summilux and that's the closest rendering of an auto focus lens that I've seen to date. so it's either leica sl which much more expensive than the s1, or leica m. I don't want to go back to manual focusing again though, so gonna go with s1. Thinking of getting the 20-60mm for my casual walkaround and vlogging lens. Would the kit lens be sufficient you reckon? Thanks in advance
@epiccookingwithtamtam9415
@epiccookingwithtamtam9415 4 года назад
ahh me and my d3100 with 50mm yongnou ^_^
@shang-hsienyang1284
@shang-hsienyang1284 4 года назад
I envy people with this lens on the Sigma fp.
@non_clemente
@non_clemente 4 года назад
Would be interesting if Panasonic releases a g9 version on L mount. Or better a g95 version in canon rp price range.
@soundknight
@soundknight 4 года назад
Performs like a camera dad kit lens
@seantomlinson3320
@seantomlinson3320 4 года назад
Priced and sized like it too.
@TrollMeister_
@TrollMeister_ 5 месяцев назад
It's a great lens for street photography.
@JohnHenryDale
@JohnHenryDale 3 года назад
Chris presciently predicting the S5 coming out later in 2020 around the 6 minute mark. DID HE KNOW??
@legend240891
@legend240891 3 года назад
cant wait for the day when panasonic adds PDAF
@user-kp4cz4xt8v
@user-kp4cz4xt8v 4 года назад
Sigma Fp?
@williaminbody205
@williaminbody205 4 года назад
Don’t need ibis at 20-60.
@StupidRaisins
@StupidRaisins 4 года назад
Still hilarious cold open!
@freestyleskyline
@freestyleskyline 2 года назад
Okay admit it I'm not the only one here that thought that Dean came was reviewing camera lenses
@grdnzrnic
@grdnzrnic 4 года назад
not crazy about the grading: dark/dim lighted look
@courtmetrage
@courtmetrage 3 года назад
Uninspiring aperture range.
@kingvincent6439
@kingvincent6439 3 года назад
How you predicted the S5 xD
@rodrigo4379
@rodrigo4379 4 года назад
Ellll mountttt ALLIANCE 😂
@samsantana
@samsantana 3 года назад
It's as if you knew the S5 was around the corner.
@Zakna
@Zakna 4 года назад
holy crap.. 1st
@PortBurwell8
@PortBurwell8 2 года назад
I totally disagree about sharpness....This this is very sharp...
@perspective_guy6804
@perspective_guy6804 4 года назад
F4 would have been better
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