Paper Tiger Or Formidable Foe | F-4E Phantom II Vs Mig-25 Foxbat | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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@GrowlingSidewinder 2 месяца назад

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@cujbaion1 2 месяца назад

They say 333 to start the MLRS or artillery set. For radar-dish they say “half hundred” (the model of the modification/platform). 😉

@Anarchy_420 2 месяца назад

Please fly The F-15STOL/MTD VS The SU-30SM Dogfight! Please fly The F-15EX VS The MIG-31 BVR!

@superfisto 2 месяца назад

what happens if the tanks hit an opponent? (or flares?)

@numberyellow 2 месяца назад

NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs SU-57, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx SU-47 vs NGAD, dogfight, guns or missiles (or both) plzkthx

@mariuscatalin3195 2 месяца назад

Finely the mig 25 is on skyes , I will like to see that 1991 mig 25 vs f 15 story , I request it so many times I really want to see it on your channel

@jamesmontgomery9464 2 месяца назад

maybe next time, F-4 escorts B-52s and Mig-25 intercepts.

@EagleSix52 2 месяца назад

Only scenario that makes sense

@kahlrhoam6769 2 месяца назад

Naturally! That’s what the MIG25 was intended for.

@TonymanCS 2 месяца назад

It would end in the same way- Foxbats expending all missiles on more nimble Phantoms scoring a few hits or not a single hit at all then either run away or merge and get slaughtered.

@roman335i 2 месяца назад

No, he want to do some Shit scenarios....

@FishFlys 2 месяца назад

@@kahlrhoam6769it was actually intended for the XB-70, B1 would be a better substitute than B52

@TheBruces56 2 месяца назад

The Mig-25 was designed to be a fast, high altitude interceptor, not a dog fighter.

@JagdgeschwaderX 2 месяца назад

I doubt the F4 and Mig 25 ever met but if so then what ever

@LinkSkyward-vu1uo 2 месяца назад

Doesn't excuse the fact that russian pretended it was a dogfighter.

@zildiun2327 2 месяца назад

@@LinkSkyward-vu1uo I mean, if your enemies incorrectly evaluated the role and capabilities of your brand new interceptor, would you correct them?

@_b_x_b_1063 2 месяца назад

@@JagdgeschwaderXin Israel

@aayushprakhar1711 2 месяца назад

@@JagdgeschwaderXf4's missile won't be able to hit mig 25 because of altitude

@DecidedlyNinja 2 месяца назад

Unfortunate for the MiG-25 pilots to be assigned as escorts. They can't hit and run when they've got Bears to protect, so they're forced to dogfight...in steel airplanes.

@Reimalken 2 месяца назад

Yeah, seems an odd match really

@Mcree114 2 месяца назад

My first thought too. They're boom and zoom interceptors meant to shoot down bombers and leave the AO not escort friendly ones. They really had no chance here.

@viswajitbala7924 2 месяца назад

@@pyronuke4768agreed on all. but I think it wouldn’t be an entertaining video if he got clapped immediately by the foxbats don’t you think?

@justacomment1657 2 месяца назад

It would show that he needs skill to survive ;) and that's the fun of those videos....and tacview.... But that seems all missing lately :/

@jasond130 2 месяца назад

I would have to assume that if the Mig-25 hits a merge or even visual range the Mig-25 is in big, big trouble.

@disposablehero4911 2 месяца назад

Yeah, you don't knife fight in a telephone booth using the 25.

@Greasy__Bear 2 месяца назад

I feel like a full power climb would get you away no matter what direction you are pointing.

@Greasy__Bear 2 месяца назад

@pyronuke4768 maybe, it worked pretty well for the sr71, they usually didn't get that close though.

@AlexPerkins252 2 месяца назад

Merge? yes. Visual range? No. Tbh even in the merge if it wanted to just speed away it could.

@garrettwood201 2 месяца назад

If a Foxbat is within 10 miles of a hostile he royally fucked up.

@PepperDog76 2 месяца назад

Man! I love all the little touches in your editing. The sound effects, the low radio chatter in the background, it’s like a short film based on a Tom Clancy novel. Thanks again for the hard work and great content, brother.

@GrowlingSidewinder 2 месяца назад

Really appreciate it when people notice those little things, thank you very much. Much Love.

@Marcus-p5i5s 2 месяца назад

25's make the Lead Sled look like a ballerina

@D2C3R5 2 месяца назад

If there's a cooler looking aircraft than an F-4 in full camo, I don't know what it is. A very long time ago, in the early '70s when I was young, my family was traveling through SE Asia. We were flying from Bangkok to Hong Kong. The airplane flew out over the South China Sea, avoiding Viet Nam airspace. Mid way through the flight, the Captain comes over the PA and says for everybody to look out to the left side of the plane. About 50-100 meters off the port wing, an F-4 in full camo was escorting our airliner through the local airspace. I just remember seeing a fighter plane in full camo. I found out later it was an F-4. When I was a few years older and got into building model airplanes, that was the first one I built.

@lcdrpost 2 месяца назад

Launch tanks into orbit. That really made me laugh!!! Thanks!😂

@Andrew-13579 2 месяца назад

Then descend and reverse the turn to try to reattach the tanks? Almost. 😂

@Aminuts2009 2 месяца назад

If I remember right the Mig - 25 was a knee jerk fear response by the Soviet Union to counter the XB - 70. Which never came to fruition. When I was in the Navy, every once in a while, we would get intel reports that the Mig - 25 s squadrons in Eastern Russia, especially in winter, would be out of service. The whole wing at once. The reason? The mechanics drank the 100% anhydrous ethyl alcohol hydraulic fluid and they didn't have any in stock to replace it. Why? Because the mechanics drank the 100% ALL the ethyl alcohol hydraulic fluid.

@horusfalcon 2 месяца назад

Just call in a flight of Tu-22s to replenish! 😆

@WinVisten 2 месяца назад

Using booze as hydraulic fluid... Why didn't they realize this?

@Aminuts2009 2 месяца назад

@@WinVisten To me this sounds like the most Russian thing ever. We were stunned when we read those reports and it happened more than a few times.

@horusfalcon 2 месяца назад

@@WinVisten The Tu-22 carried pure ethanol as a refrigerant for its air conditioning system...

@Lemon9234 2 месяца назад

I thought MiG-25 was a response to intercept SR-71. Was that the MiG-31?

@jmtpolitico80 2 месяца назад

Was that 5 Kills? Did you just become an Ace in 15 minutes?!?!? Fricken great flying!

@exodortch 2 месяца назад

3 mig 25 and 2 bears. Do bombers not count is ace status?

@jmtpolitico80 2 месяца назад

@@aarontheaviationaddict3643 Thanks!

@beaverdam1199 2 месяца назад

@@aarontheaviationaddict3643 he scores 1 mig-25 then 2 bears then 2 mig-25s at the end, proving that you are a disloyal viewer who didn't watch the whole video 😊

@reapertalon 24 дня назад

@@beaverdam1199 Did you count? That's 5 kills?

@kwharrison6668 2 месяца назад

Don’t forget Mig -25 also scored the only Iraqi to air kill of Desert Storm against an F/A-18.

@GrowlingSidewinder 2 месяца назад

correct sir, and excellent point.

@Basilikum42069 2 месяца назад

If only we had a flyable mig 25

@keeperkoba 2 месяца назад

Yes we do.

@ryanmcmahan5590 2 месяца назад

Long time subscriber, first time commenter. I dig the channel btw. I like how you launched the fuel tanks into orbit. Here’s a “2idiots” suggestion: throw fuel tanks at bombers/tankers/AWACS/transports. Silly but could be interesting.

@SuiLagadema 2 месяца назад

Unconfirmed reports said NORAD & NASA are tracking 2 cylindrical objects heading towards Mars. Nor China or North Korea have claimed interplanetary launches. Here's Tom with the weather.

@xX_Gravity_Xx 2 месяца назад

The MiG-25 is excellent if used for it's intended true purpose. It's fatal flaw is it's extremely, almost comically narrow design case. The MiG-31 however... Now, that thing is an absolute monster. Someone saw what the MiG-25 _could_ do, and decided that it should. Slight changes to wing geometry, better engines, more hardpoints and a reinforced airframe made this thing a very, very formidable beast. Very difficult to shoot down something that can maintain such ridiculous speeds, and something that can operate at such high altitudes. Most aircraft are at risk at higher altitudes in BVR engagements. Honestly, the thought of MiG-31's probably kept a good few people up at night.

@horusfalcon 2 месяца назад

Nice work. The Foxbat is a fast interceptor, but it looks like it doesn't even stand a chance two-circle, let alone one-circle. I'm surprised, though, with its long-range weapons and powerful RADAR that it didn't do better BVR. Poor choice of tactics, maybe?

@IEagleoneI 2 месяца назад

poor choice for scenario from GS i think))

@BladeKi11a 2 месяца назад

Still waiting for GS to drop the BF3 F-18 mission “Going Hunting”

@TymaDem 2 месяца назад

BStill waiting GS to do BF4 Rendezook challenge

@berengerchristy6256 2 месяца назад

idk why it'd be interesting the mission is just on rails

@331Grabber 2 месяца назад

Every time I see you in a Phantom, I click.

@icaleinns6233 2 месяца назад

Gotta appreciate the plane that directly led to the development of the F-15. Just imagine what 2 F-15C's woulda done in that fight.

@truthseeker9454 2 месяца назад

7:21 - "Urrrraaaaaaaaaaa!..." Splash! 😆

@jeoverv 2 месяца назад

The Mig-25 was a interceptor, not an escort fighter? I just can't recall it could perform a mission like this.

@barbarossa1234 2 месяца назад

The graphics are amazing. I have always been fascinated by the TU-95 Bear.

@Broothski 2 месяца назад

Same, so many propellers!

@Hyposonic 2 месяца назад

It seems DCS replicates the MiG's greatest weakness: poor visibility and situational awareness. Not surprising since it was not a dogfighter.

@jaws013 2 месяца назад

now that I'm FINALLY getting into dcs after years of watching you, I'm realizing how dang easy you make it all look. my brain hurts learning all this new info lol

@TR4Ajim 2 месяца назад

With those big Tumansky engines, you could probably get an IR lock on a MiG25 from another time zone!👍

@garrettwood201 2 месяца назад

The older rear-aspect missiles could probably get a front-aspect lock on a 25 lol

@Andrew-13579 2 месяца назад

Probably could have used some AIM-4Ds and gotten them. 😂

@worldbreaker1023 2 месяца назад

Spiraling orbital tank launch! 😢 I'm beyond words mate

@CartoonrBOY 2 месяца назад

On location shooting Top Gun 3: "...then this drop tank came out of nowhere!!!"

@TurbineFlyer 2 месяца назад

How TF are mig 25s getting hits on F-15's but struggling against F-4's?

@garrettwood201 2 месяца назад

Simple, they entered the merge. Mistake number one for the steel ingot with wings.

@garrettwood201 2 месяца назад

@pyronuke4768 very on-brand for Russian military decision making, I must say

@awfike24 2 месяца назад

Imagining to myself a scenario where tanks launched that way get a splash 😅

@boharris8179 2 месяца назад

The jump in tech between these era fighters and gen4 is probably more than the previous 2 generation combined. That said a Phantom armed with f15 radar and modern missiles and maybe an engine upgrade would be one heavy hitter!!

@sanek9500 2 месяца назад

You are basically talking about German F4 ICE now)

@SoonerDan77 2 месяца назад

Those missles on the Mig are huge.

@Andrew-13579 2 месяца назад

I was thinking, when he said he had targets on the radar that he might be targeting the launched missiles. 😂

@andresilvasophisma 2 месяца назад

Probably scored a Starlink satellite kill with those tanks.

@ashleytull8524 2 месяца назад

E.T. 2 Extra-Terrestrials: Orbital Encounter

@stunninglynormal1261 2 месяца назад

This feature brought to you courtesy of ACE IN A DAY productions.

@horusfalcon 2 месяца назад

One splash was enemy pilot error. He dove just a bit too steeply and went in.

@brandonleibowitz3829 2 месяца назад

Are the aim-174s being added to DCS? Is supposed to have more range than the Russian hypersonic missiles.

@corok12 2 месяца назад

they won't officially be in any time soon, but we'll likely see them in mods before too long.

2 месяца назад

Not only the MiG25 is the only aircraft to have shot with success at a F15, it was also on the Gulf War the only plane that managed to shoot down a Coalition aircraft (a F/A 18C), the first shootdown of this war. MiG25s with elite Iraqi pilots were also serious during the Iran-Iraq war, even taking on Iranian Tomcats, so with a good pilot, this plane is a menace.

@GrowlingSidewinder 2 месяца назад

Also there was a mig29 that shot down a tornado but the British deny it, but there is a lot of evidence to suggest it’s true.

@Sethdarunner 2 месяца назад

@@GrowlingSidewinder the F15 also survived and was still airworthy

@p1zzalemon190 2 месяца назад

Hey GS, I was wondering if you could start providing links or downloads for the missions and skins you use. I love your videos, and you have done an amazing job bringing so many people to DCS. I’m sure that others would also appreciate being able to have a go at your missions themselves!

@TitterpigRancher 2 месяца назад

I've always loved the Phantom, it's such a unique-looking aircraft and gorgeous in spite of its chunky design, but seeing all these Phantom videos you've been producing has given me a respect for the lethality and effectiveness of the Lead Sled that I never really had before. Great work, keep it up!

@DDayJayke 2 месяца назад

You are correct GS. The MiG-25 is the only aircraft recorded to have hit the F-15 with a missile. I'd go as far as to say the Foxbat ended the Eagle's undefeated streak like Brock Lesnar defeated Undertaker's streak at WrestleMania 30! Even if it limped home, that F-15 was effectively out of action. Thus, giving the MiG-25 a score over the F-15. A victory is a victory, regardless of whether the enemy is a smoldering wreck in a field somewhere, or missing a wing on the runway back at base.

@inewzealand762 2 месяца назад

One of the reasons the Shah got the Tomcats was because the Phantoms couldnt keepup/ intercept the Foxbats flyimg into Iranian aerospace.

@Mav09 2 месяца назад

F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New Day 64

@roli4040 2 месяца назад

Turning Foxbats into foxbait

@Anarchy_420 2 месяца назад

Please fly The F-4 VS The A-4 guns only Dogfight!🙏👍 Lol* this looked easier than taking on MIG-21's!!

@craigdilamarter 2 месяца назад

Ever read the book by Tom Clancy? Red Storm Riding? There was several air battles for Iceland as well as the mythical F-19 Frisbee. Some recreations would be amazing.

@carlchong7592 2 месяца назад

It seems to me that a fighter escort should be flying ahead of the aircraft that they are escorting. Considering the forward speed of the heavies being escorted, flying ahead gives an escort more time/distance to deal with an aggressor before the heavies come into range. An aggressor could come up from the flanks or behind, but the forward speed of the heavies still makes interception from in front a more likely direction to cover.

@joerose1396 2 месяца назад

Damn I love your stuff. Best overall videos on RU-vid. Epicness

@EwokEight 2 месяца назад

There's something I find eery about the exhausts of the Phantom

@ltjjenkins 2 месяца назад

Did your three mates have a party they didn't want to miss?

@curtisbartlett8170 2 месяца назад

Bar opened

@getgaijoobed6219 2 месяца назад

4:13 I like to think of the MiG-23, 25 and 31 as just more extreme versions of the MiG-21 - increasingly better as a defense interceptor but progressively worse in a dogfight 😂

@rock3tcatU233 2 месяца назад

The 600 kW radar in the MIG-25 is a monster.

@thomasfarley5070 2 месяца назад

Thanks!

@lilletrille8998 Месяц назад

A Mig 25 probably shot down a FA-18 on the first day (well night) of the 1991 gulf war as well...so I guess the Mig 25 was the only Iraqi aircraft to actually hit coalition aircraft.

@GrowlingSidewinder Месяц назад

ya the mig25 kill on the F-18 is basically accepted to be true at this point, there was also a mig29 kill on a british tornado but the british deny that one...but there is decent evidence and suggest it might be true. British said it was lost to a SAM but more than likely an R60 missile shot from an iraqi mig29

@erikbender1967 2 месяца назад

F4 has always been my favorite Cold War aircraft. Great video!

@terrencejones9817 2 месяца назад

Sometimes I wish someone upgraded an F4 with F414 engines and APG79. It would still make a heck of a fast missile truck.

@The_Angry_BeEconomist 2 месяца назад

why doesn't the water react with the turbulence?

@GrowlingSidewinder 2 месяца назад

DCS hasn’t come that far. Wish it did that would be cool.

@johnwesley9000 2 месяца назад

What this channel needs is some more videos of the F4 Phantom. It isn't represented enough.😏

@shocks65 2 месяца назад

Why are they not at 35k doing mach jesus when they fire? Mig 25/31s should never get that close intentionally.

@thewanderingguru4097 2 месяца назад

GSW: The MIG 25 is actually a deadly aircraft, Almost got an F15…30sec later MIG 25 parts distribution mission complete.

@kwharrison6668 2 месяца назад

Also shot down an F/A-18 for the Iraqi Air Force’s only air to air kill in Desert Storm.

@Ambaryerno 2 месяца назад

Man, that F-4 cockpit looks fantastic.

@mpelzer24 2 месяца назад

MIG25 doesn't suck and then 4 F4s wipe the floor with them

@sealboyy6584 2 месяца назад

Cuz its not a fighter maybe

@ThePolish2107 2 месяца назад

@@pyronuke4768 Yeah I was going to say, having an interceptor play the role of an escort doesn't seem like the best of ideas to me. Not really the role it was designed for.

@tommymorris7245 2 месяца назад

Ah yes, brick with wings vs brick with wings

@Djmaxofficial 2 месяца назад

Mig 25 was build for speed not dogfight

@gullskegger 2 месяца назад

Love the RS tail markings.

@Spydr6684 2 месяца назад

5:14 Just another potential way to take out the enemy! 😂

@velkoto1 Месяц назад

I'm pretty sure those tanks went into orbit

@stephenhoda3362 2 месяца назад

The F4 looks like somebody stepped on it's nose, and kicked it in the tail.

@LifeChangingMotivation450 2 месяца назад

Besides the smoke graffic problem there.s the eyeball mirror problem lmao 😂😂😂😂😂

@KevsEpisode 2 месяца назад

Day 34 of asking for Mig 21Fishbed vs P-51 mustang dogfight

@mhult5873 2 месяца назад

My suggestions: 1. Trying to shoot down an SR-71 with a Mig-25? Trying to survive Mig-25 intercept with SR-71? What about missions with the F117 Nighthawk? Or going to max altitude and also max speed with X-15? If possible: replicate the anti-satellite intercept with anti-satellite missile fired from F15 (mission profile available on google, I believe. I believe it involves firing the ASAT-missle going vertical with the F15 from rather high altitude. Br //M

@Mike_Romeo 2 месяца назад

1. We dont have flyable SR-71 or MiG-25 for this sim 2. SR-71 doesnt have any weapons 3. We dont have a flyable F-117 in this sim 4. We dont have satellites in this sim or the correct F-15 version for that.

@mhult5873 2 месяца назад

@@Mike_Romeo 1, 2, 3, 4 ok. And the SR-71 defense was it.'s speed and altitude, so I didn't expect any weapons for it to survive. Did you? Have a nice day.

@muleyman68 2 месяца назад

Those drop tanks probably flew into the next countries borders. Awesome.

@Illusionyary 2 месяца назад

I'd like to see you fly the MiG-25 yourself to see what you can do with it, it's a really cool plane.

@chrisblood7395 2 месяца назад

Excellent video, as usual. As for that F-4's tail marking; is that plane from Ramstein Air Base, Germany - or is my memory failing...?

@Drunken_Hamster Месяц назад

7:10 and 7:20 the difference between "Splash one, Mig-25" and "Splash, one Mig-25."

@daym8 2 месяца назад

This video felt like a ticking time bomb 💣 exploding with victory being the endgame✌️

@billedwardz 2 месяца назад

You must've blinked at 10:00 or something and missed that explosion lol

@colin5577 2 месяца назад

Gawd that F4 cockpit looks gorgeous.

@bobbressi5414 2 месяца назад

The Mig 25 is a high speed missile truck. It is massive and heavy and not a dogfighter.

@Mamac2006 2 месяца назад

I'd love to see how you do challenging scenarios in soviet fighters

@IEagleoneI 2 месяца назад

A very strange choice for bombers escort, the Mig-25 was designed as a high-speed, high-flying long-range interceptor to intercept slow and unmaneuverable Western bombers