PARADOX are listening HUGE CK3 patch 

--TIMESTAMPS-- 00:00 Intro 1:09 Plagues 2:29 Legends 3:37 Bettering the game 6:18 The philosophy of free 6:42 A challenging game 11:12 future DLC sneak peak 12:12 final thoughts 13:16 Outro

They went with the worst of two options for legends. Either they needed to be way stronger and more impactful and retain the ability to only have one at a time, or they needed to let you have multiple legends concurrently and have them at the really minor power level they're at now. Instead they chose to make them basically neutered and only allow us to have one lukewarm option at a time.

So unlanded characters and estates might be the lead up to Merchant Republics which was something in CK2 that some players have missed

Remember there is no game over if you get your lands taken away from the next patch on (if you have the next DLC), because now you will become an adventurer if you have no title, so you can be "taken out", but then you become an adventurer and mercenary, and then you can climb up and take back what was yours. Plus... when the scourge of the gods or conqueror dies you can bet the heir will see the empire crumble quite fast because he will not have any of the bonus... the factions will be crazy and I love the whole ramification of it all! I think I read the conqueror traith goes down to the sons, but I don't know if that is a given all the time, we will see >:)

Playing as an unlanded character could be fun, for example only play as direct descendants, even if your cousin inherits everything. But I think the fact that you can't have items when you're not king or emperor kind of kills the fun in not being strong.

Paradox should do the hard thing and write out 100s of new events. I love painting the map and getting super exmpires with min maxxed characters, but only because role playing loses its enjoyment really fast once you have played through a couple dynasties. There is no role play to enjoy when the same events happen no matter how different my characters are. My mega empire in Africa should not get the same exact events as a character in India or in Western Europe. Not only should things like legends, plagues, tours, tourneys, etc have dozens of more unique events each, but there should be 100s of more events unique to region, religion, culture, tech era, etc. Min Maxxers don't need much, just give them more mechanics and gameplay depth with balancing. They are getting that, but when i've seen nearly every event a dozen times at minimum, my brain just chooses the optimal one. Even if I make a character and dynasty solely to role play as. Now, I mostly play on console and I have about 100 other complaints for paradox. 1. The game crashes if too much happens. Even on new gen consoles getting 200 or 300 years in means having to save and quit every few in game months to avoid crashing. 2. Where is the DLC or the updates? Tours and Tourneys has been out for a year now and we only got an update from 2 years ago last month. 3. Multiplayer is even worse for crashes. Me and my friend played one fresh world in two sessions, both in small kingdoms and the game crashed once every 30-60 minutes. It got to the point where he stopped playing early and my friend never got back into the game. Legends are a cool concept, but I feel like the effects should be lasting. Like concencrating or strengthening your bloodline. Let one of my early characters become an actual legend and stay a legend. It doesn't have to be exactly like what bloodlines were in CK2, but at the moment legends feel like every other decision where you click whichever one you need then wait for it to pop. Either make the legends more like hunts or make them into the grand epics that effect the world for decades if not centuries. King Arthur is a great example. We still talk about King Arthur despite the tale being 100s of years old and it still affects public perception over England and Western Europe in general.

I really liked the idea of this DLC but it ended up being a very minor update if you exclude the plague system since it's free. For the price, this DLC is just not worth it.

I missed the coalitions from CK2. They really can kick your teeth in and force you to look inward.

So from my limited experience with Legends. I tried playing as a lowly count in Norway in 867. In a single life I managed to create the Empire of the Isle of Mann, and using the Legend mechanic managed to de jure drift several kingdoms into my domain, and religiously convert all the land. By the end of my first characters life I had absorbed the Empires of Scandinavia, Britannia, Francia and Italy. I have only played one game with the dlc prior to this and after the update. I mean, it feels pretty overpowered and I don't think I min/max in CK3, but maybe that playthrough says otherwise. Not sure. I will say, I didn't spend any time preparing my succession. The goal was to see how much I could absorb in a single life.

I also notice plagues constantly pop up around my capital way more often that it does my neighbors...or a random plague that originated no where near my territory magically spreads up to just my capital...it is so stupid. It is fine every now and then but it is like 3 or 4 times per my characters rule

I agree nerfing the Grand Events is questionable but the pilgrimages is also a buff since the higher tiers of piety now give a bigger multiplier to the piety earned. So a tier 4 pious pilgrimage is better but a tier 1 porous pilgrimage is worse and in general worldly pilgrimages are nerfed.

I grew up playing ck2 and had a blast with it. But it kinda pains me to see their sloth-like speed to update ck3. Almost 4 years now and they still haven’t done anything towards nomads and republics. Even the crusades themselves are pretty lackluster.

That 25 advantage is insane, might be too much tbh, otherwise these changes look okay but we’ll see

hey FeedbackIRL, is this is v1.12.5?

Man i wishes they listned or even updated console. We havent even seen expansion pass 2 yet And when we got royal courts about a year ago it absolutely broke the game for half a year or more for a patch lol

I really like the conqueror mechanic as I have been playing with historic invasion mod to give the game some mote challenge after I have destabilized all plausible rivals.

Plague frequency is what killed it for me. Nine out of ten events were plagues and it became so obnoxious to deal with.

got my lezgend done to legendary lvl with only 2 counties

I don't mind this expansion just not a fan of how plagues work so I have them turned really low. Nerfing the pilgrimages is stupid as hell.

Cant they make the conqueror thing be kinda like a secular crusade

As a CK2 player, the pause on siege is, indeed, AMAZING! I dare say, it will change your life…

popups covering popups is annoying. for example you convert faith, I found a mod that just sends all conversion requests. but even with manual filter, 2 speed you would just ask vassals one by one and press ok. now comes the court visit or the independence faction popup and you press ok. you lose titles and refuse to get renown. I would always choose the same thing on those instances.

Ideally they will continue to look at legends. I still think it’s a solid DLC but for example they’ve said that they’re adding more legends types in Roads to Power. A,so they’re completely redoing the Court Events, that’s a pretty big change to a previous DLC.

867 is the most played. but as far as i can tell most youtubers prefer 1066 for the reasons you say. personally i play for alt history, therefore i prefer 867. i also play mostly norse. i havent rly played at all for like more than a year. i played waay to much from release to the release of foi & that didnt interest me, came back for cultural rework in Royal Court but not much after that.

The conqueror mod has been a thing for quite a while. Now if that guy came up with the mod because of you then bravo but I’m pretty sure it’s the inspiration of the mod.

The only thing I'm waiting on now is TRADE. Yes this game is more about the characters instead of the management, but I don't see why it can't be both. Make it more complicated. Lol

Idk, rhe tldr of difficulty in CK3 was more like: we don’t want to just give the Ai modifiers we want to give them in world in game advantages that make sense. As someone who came to CK3 from Civ 6 I agree the game is boo boo baby easy once you become an emperor, maybe even a large king and I will 100% take artificial Ai modifiers. By the conqueror addition much like the mod is welcome.

I'm still not a huge fan of the plagues. They now went from an annoyance to being basically unnoticable.

None of the changes matter while the game remains too easy. Everything is worthless, everything is pointless. Yes, you can get your 700% powered knights, but why would you do that? can you even tell the difference if a regular MAA stationed in a proper province can stackwipe the world anyway? Why would you continue playing a game when you know there is no possibility of you ever losing, you'll never be challenged, you'll never have to do anything, you'll never have to deal with any sitations of any kind. This game invokes boredom, that's the one feeling a game should never provoke in a player, a game can be fun, exciting, interesting, or even frustrating, but when a game gets boring, that's when it dies on a player's mind, there is no worse feeling for a game.

Are gamers ever happy? Have we had anything come out in the last 5 years that had positive reception?

It's just a trash expansion overall. Their idea of a DLC is to cram random events together with some modifiers and call it a day. Instead of actually adding meaningful interactions between AI and players that aren't events. When was the last time they actually added a new scheme? When was the last time they added anything war related?

Paradox are clueless. When your heirs go to meet peers, which you now have no choice, they come back half dead. Paradox deliberately want to annoy you, not a good move when you are deciding to buy a DLC or not. Then to ruin any remaining immersion in the game, your character can suddenly acquire a cool dudes pair of warfarers. The kiddies are running Paradox. Then don't bother buying the Legends DLC , the legends cost so much and deliver massively underwhelming benefits. Half an idea poorly implemented.

So when they dont want to make ck3 more challenging, the game is lost anyway

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