PARENTS FROM HELL | Intense Deleted Scene - Avatar 2 Breakdown 

This was easily one of the more darker deleted scenes for Avatar 2, showing how anger and emotion took over Neytiri. Would you have wanted this to stay on the original cut of the movie? Subscribe for more -> bitly.ws/Ytkx I purchased the digital version of Avatar The Way of Water Collector's Edition on the Microsoft Store.

I keep seeing people complain about Neytiri with lines like "she has been reduced to a screaming psychopath" yeah if I just witnessed my son get murdered by the people responsible for my PTSD I'd respond quite violently too. She's not insane she's reacting to violence with violence like people who have gone through serious trauma have been known to do

My heart broke for Neytiri. I can't understand the argument that she went too far here. She lost SO much at the hands of the RDA - her father, her sister, her first born son, her Ikran, her home tree and the other sacred locations, even came close to losing Jake himself! She is 100% justified in her rage and hatred of the humans.

Man they should have kept this scene in the theatrical cut it REALLY delivers the shock factor.

This cut dramatically changes the tone of the scene, especially with the part where Neytiri had the knife on Spider's throat. If anything this part should've been kept and it also kind of solves the debate about whether she was bluffing or not.

“please give me the knife” he sounded terrified omg

Wish they would have left the scene with Quaritch letting Kiri go in the movie. The quote "Your fight is with me. Not the boy." hits me right there

Jake and Kiri pleading for Neytiri to let Spider go broke my heart into trillions of subatomic particles

This makes spider's actions at the very end make SOOOO much more sense. They should just split every sequel into 2 parts because I want to see EVERYTHING that was cut out, lol.

I feel as though the emotion on Kiri, Spider, Quaritch, And Jake's faces make the scene so emotional and intense and you can see how everyone cares for Spider, and how deep the rage, hurt, and pain is for Neytiri. Jake and Kiri begging Neytiri to stop is so impactful and powerful and I feel that the part where Neytiri grabs Spider should've made it into the movie, I know it may be too intense for some younger viewers but it just adds to the story.

The way she snarled at Kiri to back off. This was not the Neytiri we all know and love, she was a mother who just saw her son die in her hands by the RDA. She probably would have pleasurably killed Spider had Kiri and Jake not been there

When quartrich said " you're a warrior, you're fights with me not the boy" he was ready to protect spider

I wish they kept this scene. The movie is already really dark and I think this fits the tone of the final sequence

Jake and Quaritch, still mortal enemies, but lowkey coming together on the topic of Spider safety. Jake and Kiri are just great in this scene. The way Jake handles and de-escalates a literal hostage situation involving his wife, is amazing. Also, how poignant is it that she grabbed him to save Kiri and then she just hisses at her daughter like that. Edit: also, I like that at the very end, once the knife is out of her hands, you kinda see her expression change, like she's kinda horrified at what she just did.

I love neytiris character and the words “a son for a son” it gave me chills

They really should've kept this. It makes more sense in THAT scene and adds more personality and context.

Still we shouldn’t blame Neytiri. Because she losing everything from the R.D.A her sister, her father, her ancestral home, and most recently her son. And that more then enough to make someone go Berserk.

James Cameron is always holding back....maybe he'll hold back in the next film too. Who or what is he 'waiting on' to give him permission to just tell the story without fear or shame? His fans are here and have been since it all began

I wished they had kept the scene as it was, a mother's rage is something else and I certainly wouldn't blame Neytiri for acting this way in the extended cut. I think the extended cut adds a lot more depth and realism, thanks for sharing!

I wanted this scene so much. It sets up the thing that I’ve wanted for 14 years: Giving the humans back their humanity.

Whether or not Neytiri really intended to kill Spider is a hotly contended topic in the fandom. I have always maintained that yeah, she would have killed him if Quaritch hadn't released Kiri. This is only confirmation for me. Of course, that she originally intended to kill Spider even after Quaritch had released Kiri is.....ah......different. That's a whole different kind of dark, and I can see why Cameron shied away from including it in the theatrical cut. And honestly, Neytiri is already getting enough (irrational) hate for that scene as it is.

I wonder how much darker the next film is gonna be. Imagine what dark type of methods the Ash People will employ in battle.

This really should have been in there. Avatar's biggest weakness is the scenes we never got to see, I'd trade off a lot of the spectacle scenes for the inclusion of the character building ones.

they should’ve kept this, it would’ve made spider’s choice to save quaritch make a little more sense… not enough to make it okay but enough to be a little more understandable.

The acting between Jake and Neytiri is so good, holy crap. I wonder how the scene with them backing into the water and eventually Jake vs Quaritch would have gone with the full version, but it makes complete sense why Spider would save Quartitch given what just happened. It's hard to hold Neytiri fully to blame for her actions given that she just lost her son, but it's also not possible to blame Spider for his understandable fear and uncertainty. Very much drives home that sometimes there are no winners, there is no cut and dry good and bad, just victims of pain creating more victims, and both being completely understandable and sympathetic.

Even more, reason Spider saved his Q at the end.

Notice how Jake was very gentle taking the knife. Like carefully disarming a bomb that might detonate any second, he had to be delicate and gentle.

Honestly, I’m thinking they’re saving intense moments like these for the 3rd movie. I’m thinking someone is gonna get heavily hurt by the ash people and it only fuels Neytiri’s rage since she can’t believe her own kind would aid the RDA in their destruction. THAT’S when we’re getting berserk Neytiri.

After watching this scene I now have nothing but sympathy for spider. It makes so much more sense as to why he would save that monster. If I had been seconds away from getting my throat slit after reuniting with my foster family by my foster mother, and the person in front of me goes out of his or her way to save my life, I would repay that debt by doing the same. I understand that she had ptsd through loosing Neteyam in fact all the sullies were, but you also have to take into account that the whole world was against spider from the moment he drew breath on Pandora. He was on his own from day 1. He was seen as a stray cat to a human in a Navi body, he was physiologically broken from Netyiri’s hatred of him, and was constantly blamed for every decision that Lo’ak or kiri made when they went on their little excursions in the forest. He was left behind by the Sully’s and left in the hands of the demon Quaritch. He was tortured by the humans and gave up nothing, he was forced to watch his father burn down villages and harm innocent metkayina men, woman, and children, and watch Neteyam die because of a decision that again Lo’ak made which was saving him which means that he is indirectly responsible for neteyams death. Something that a lot of people don’t realize is that Spider never asked to be rescued. He didn’t know they were even coming to save him. So when Netyiri turns all that rage and hatred towards Spider with a knife to his throat, and stops because kiri was released, I was like “huh” maybe Spider saved quaritch because he wanted to belong which is part of it. I was mad but I understood why he did what he did. BUT AFTER WATCHING THIS SCENE I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND WHY HE DID WHAT HE DID. The kid in that moment wasn’t wondering “oh I’m going to replace Neteyam as their son and finally be accepted as one of them” he’s probably thinking something along the lines of “After everything I did for these people, in spit of everything I’ve done to make up for my fathers crimes, I’ll always be seen as a demon, they’ll always look at me with pity, and the person who I’ve tried to connect with the most in spite of her hatred towards me has just tried to end my very existence. And the person who killed their son just saved my life. I don’t know what to do here!” “THAT’S HIS THOUGHT PROCESS THROUGHOUT THE FINAL CHUNK OF THE MOVIE. HE’S A SCARED KID TRYING TO BELONG. I understand what Netyri is going through and she has every right to skin Quaritch for what he did, but not Spider. Spider did breathe and be of service to the na’vi. I can’t wait to see their conflict in the next avatar movie!

I can understand why they cut the stabbing scene, it was difficult to watch. But they should've kept the one with Spider, the ending would've made much more sense and Spider wouldn't be getting so much hate for his choice

I truly do believe they could've kept these scenes, BUT, if they would've had more screen time and development with Jake and Neytiri's characters becuse it felt as though they were sidelined due to the kids. Had we had bits of Neytiri interactions with Spider build up gradually to the this final moment on her bias of humans being bad. This would be a great set up for Avatar 3 on how Na'vi can be bad people or dark just as humans with Jame's direction.

Damn, I’d be terrified too. She also has a lot more blood splatter on her face than I remember in the original scene so this makes sense.

They shoulda kept all of Neytiris deleted scenes in I woulda been on the edge of my seat 😮

They should've kept those scenes! I'm frustrated that they didn't, especially when Jake and Kiri step in to stop her from killing Spider. When I saw the theatrical version, that was something that bugged me. It felt like Kiri and Jake didn't care what happened to him because they said nothing. This would've made so much more sense and, like you said, added depth to the characters.

I strongly suggest watching Neytiri's first scene from the first movie to contrast with this scene. It's quite profound. In "Jake Meets Neytiri" she's angry with Jake for causing the death of a dog, very spiritually thanking Eywa for its life, apologizing, and smacking Jake for being so stupid as to get a precious life killed. Now she's willing to kill an innocent, a child, in cold blood, not to save a life but to cause pain. No wonder Jake is so surprised. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TgT8b62FJRI.html

I thought neteri cutting spider was harsh but dam! They rly should of kept the scenes!

Wow. And I thought theatrical cut of this scene was dark enough. Neytiri going into total berserk by repeatedly and mercilessly stabbing RDA soldiers... not to mention of threatening to kill Spider anyway even after Kiri was freed... and even savagely hissed at Kiri to back off when she and Jake tried to talk her out of it.

This scene makes Spider saving Quaritch at the end a little more understandable - when I watched the film I was like damn, he is really gunna save that MF? But with this extra info, Spider seeing with his own eyes that his adopted mother figure was willing to sacrifice him just to cause pain, despite practically raising him all these years. Contrast that to his biological father - who clearly seems to genuinely care about him, despite being the enemy. Now, his actions in saving his father make a bit more sense, rather than being chalked up to Quaritch's plot armour for future films and drama for the sake of drama.

Quartrich is a hypocrite for saying that Neytiri is a warrior and her fight should be with him. He literally tried to kill her kids or put them in harm's way multiple times in the film soooooooo yeah. His fight stopped being with only Jake and Neytiri for a good while.

I think the reason why this scene was cut down is because then it wouldn't make _any_ sense for Spider to go with the Sully's, which James Cameron wanted to happen.

This would have made it much more clear and reasonable as to why Spider saved Quaritch from drowning.

This is one of my favourite scenes from the movie, the vengeance is just so satisfying, can’t wait to see it for real

Well, at least it clears any doubt whether or not Neytiri was bluffing

Tbh Netiry was so relatable in that scene. Right after Neteyams death, she seems almost letargic, and in the fight, all of her rage and grief breaks out and through the surface.

It's the first movie all over again, where they cut some the best scenes. Ugh. So annoying. You'd think James would want the audience to be shocked, like seriously, this would have been _amazing_ to see in 3D. But no, we can't have our cake and eat it too, it seems. Still love the movie either way, despite its flaws.

From Neytiri's face, she can see that as much as she wants to make Quaritch feel the pain of losing a son, she realizes that this pain will not bring Neteyam back. 6:59

*WHY* did they not keep this?? Oh my **GOD**

Wow, I got goosebumps! I wish they've kept everything! Now I'm really excited what Avatar 3 is gonna be like since they mentioned already that it'll have a much darker tone... 😮

This scene also shows me that Jake Sully cares about Spider.

The savage Neytiri is actually really savage and I can tell why they didn’t put it in

Wow that’s actually amazing she was blinded by rage

Holy crap watching neytiri go crazy reminded me of the scene in the patriot where Mel Gibson hacks that British soldier up after his son was killed. Rage and emotional breakdown can make you do unfathomable things.

Bruh Spider didn't deserve none of that smoke. I thought she was unhinged in the theatrical cut but THIS?!? This really needs to be addressed in the 3rd film

Personally I think as the avatar franchise progresses we will see that the na vi are more like humanity then they probably want to admit

Yeah. This scene shouldn’t been cut and for two reasons or more. Number 1: I remembered watching this in January and December of last year and I remembered that at the same scene, Jake threw a RDA soldier at Mansk. And I remembered looking at the Avatar Wiki one time and it says that Mansk is either unconfirmed alive or dead. But in this scene it confirmed Mansk is dead. Number 2: I wanted to see more of Jake using his automatic rifle because we only had a few scenes of him using it. Especially on this deleted scene when he took the rifle from Mansk to shoot at a RDA soldier. Could we see him use his gun more when he was in the forest retreating from the RDA with Neteyam, Neytiri and his other kids? Number 3: With this deleted cutscene, Cameron shouldn’t have cut it because it shows us how enraged Neytiri is; especially when she stabs two RDA soldiers uncontrollably. It adds to her character. Number 4: It shock me that even Jake was scared of her- Jake probably have never seen this side of Neytiri ever since on what happened to her father, but he calmly and persuaded his wife to give the knife to him. Number 5: I wanted to see more actions especially with Jake and Neytiri teaming up. I could go on and on. But to summarize this, Cameron shouldn’t have cut this scene. I hope to see more deleted scenes in the future and I hope if there’s a extended deleted fight scene that’s been cut between Jake and Quaritch when they were in hand to hand combat at the end.

6:51 Notice how Jake occasionally looks over at Quaritch, holding out his hand to keep him at bay while trying to talk Neytiri down (like he’s communicating to him he’ll get her to release spider like he did with Kiri). He was really in a tight spot here because he knows if she kills Spider that’ll send Quaritch into a frenzy and if word got out to the RDA of a Nav’i straight up and personally murdering a human kid that’ll provoke them to plan out even harsher forces/methods to retaliate with.

I consider this canon now.

Oh, the irony of Quaritch to question her morals on killing a kid when he’s responsible for the murder of her first born son. I guess morals flip when it’s your own kids life on the line, you forget the monster you were moments before to another and suddenly become the “desperate pleading parent”. That’s the saddest and darkest part of that scene to me honestly.

i guess this confirms that neytiri would definitely kill spider if anything happened to kiri

Neytiri lost her sister, her father and her home because of the Sky People, was betrayed by the one she loved, had to leave her mother and her people behind because the Sky People had returned, and then lost her eldest son right in front of her, and that’s when she completely snapped. The red mist descended, absolutely and completely blinded by rage and grief. And you can actually see as she comes down from this rage, slowly realising what she was doing and what she was just about to do, you can see her shock at herself for doing what she’s doing. And interestingly, when she releases Spider, she pushes him behind her, not toward Quaritch

Neytiri: “I’m from Pandora and I say kill ‘em all!”

If I had the final say in what was cut from the film and what was kept in. I would cut out Neytiri brutality killing the soldiers to retrain the M rating (M is the Australian audience rating equivalent of PG 13). But I would certainly keep the scene where Jake and Kiri have to interfere to save Spider's life. I do find it very curious on how directors and executive producers cut out scenes that could have added more context to the film and build more suspense for the drama between characters.

6:17 This part scared the heck outta me the way she was looking at quaritch

Imagine they still kept these scenes and moved on in part 3 to the point where Neytiri finds out who helped Quaritch out of the sea to survive XD Poor Spider hahaha

they should have kept this, it actually would made the movie better in showing raw emotion instead of cutting out important character personalities. it seems as if everything they always cut would have made the plot 100x better :(

The scene really made my throat tight. It’s scary, sad… You see how in pain she if and how cruel war is

I truly think this shouldve been left in the movie despite how dark it is. It needs to show just how much agony Neytiri is in. Humans killed her sister in their own school, killed her father, blew up her home, destroyed the sacred trees so she can no longer speak to her loved ones and ancestors, tried to bomb the MOST sacred tree with what little remained of her people inside in an attempt for genocide, burned down her forests and polluted everything that was touched, forced her and her children out of the forest, killed her Ikran, killed Tsutey (however you spell his name), followed her way out into the ocean, kidnapped her children, and then finally the straw that broke the camel's back - killed her first born son who she was pregnant with during the first war Neteyam. Like enough is enough, at some point, anyone of any mental resolve - no matter how strong - will fall into absolute madness and darkness where all you want to do is stab them repeatedly and scream and cry and release every ounce of pent up rage from decades of trauma and pain and loss. Neytiri deserves to have these scenes because I can understand exactly why she got so dark. The movie doesnt need to be balanced because there is no balance. Way too much darkness to ignore the raw emotion that comes with it. I still dont understand why Spider saved his father after seeing Neytiri finally snap. Its not like he doesnt know what happened to her or Netayam.

Quaritch telling Neytiri her fight is with him and not the boy cracks me up every time because they’re literally all there bc he was hunting their children 😭 told Jake moments ago that he already lost one kid, does he really wanna lose another? so unserious 🤣

Honestly i loved the deleted scene It was a turn i didnt expected and honestly expected neytri going more intense but it was beautifully done how they went about it. It felt so real and immersive. You can really feel the emotions and pain honestly. The moral choices during a trail and tribulation of losing something so precious to you and you have the chance of revenge but do you lose yourself to feel the satisfaction at the choice of another life. I wish they put it in the movie

Damn, Neytiri is such a traumatized character. And nothing about her anger isn’t justified except going after Spider.

After seeing the cut version, I was able to draw parallels to the ceremony when Jake passed on chiefdom. That made it reasonable for Spider to trust her after this scene because he would have known their customs. She said a son for a son before a cut to the chest just as Jake said a life fore a life as he passed the role of Chief. This extra footage makes Spider's choice to stay with the Sully's really dumb. Unless they planned to have him stay with the colonel after bringing him to shore. My guess is they had it planned to go one of two directions with who spider went with in the end and what footage stayed depended on that.

People are too afraid to kill sympathy for s fan favorite character. This makes PERFECT sense for her character. Spider is NOT her kid. He is sn alien. And Neytiri is NOT Spider's mother, but she is the only mother he's ever known. Her anger is justified but her slaughter isnt. Its like some people are allergic to nuance.

I get why they changed it. From what I've seen, a lot of people left this movie really not seeing Neytiri as a sympathetic character. They sympathized more with Quaritch. I think this scene would've pushed that even farther for those people, and more people to see things that way. For a movie about the colonization of indigenous people, I think Neytiri's point of view wasn't shown enough for this complex of a scene to have been justified.

Idk how people can hate Neytiri from this scene , the rage of loosing the amount she has from the RDA is valid . She slipped over the edge when she lost her FIRST BORN SON , which is understandable. I love Neytiri and I wish they kept this in the movie

Neytiri is so real for that

my view is that this isn't even that dark. If you try to seperate real life from movies, I truly do imagine this is how most parents would react towards killers of their child, moment after it happened. It is not shown in movies that often, and part of me thinks we try to hide it from ourself, but in my opinion this would be a parent reaction.

This why I go by the theory of Neytiri having a "Sarah Connor like arc" for film 3. No doubt as part of the role-reversal, vengeance will be a very compelling part of the Na'vi. Also a theory that the Ash people being a necessary evil they ally with. But how will that sentiment hold when they go from killing soldiers to likely mass-murdering thousands to potentially millions of civilians and refugees that will arrive to Bridgehead City?

100% they should have kept in the scene. I always, ALWAYS wondered why Jake never spoke up for Spider when Neytiri was threatening him. It made him look pretty callous or at least indifferent to Spider, like he'd been all throughout the film by calling him things like a 'stray cat' and not really caring when Spider was captured and how he might be interrogated (except for worrying what they could get out of him, anyway). His silence in the movie while Neytiri had a knife at Spider's throat always struck me as him just... waiting to see if it would work. Maybe even approving of what she did. So yeah, I wish they'd kept this scene in, at least it does something to portray Jake in a better light. He's really the first to speak up when he realizes Neytiri isn't letting Spider go, and even looks mildly worried (though whether for Spider or Neytiri is debatable). This, even though he lost a son too, and hurting Spider would be a sure way to get back at Quaritch and possibly gain an advantage. The scene kind of provides a nicely symbolic reason for the bow breaking, too. Neytiri's recklessly using and breaking people and objects important to her in pursuit of revenge, like disregarding how her kids feel about Spider. Or maybe it was showing how she'd strayed too far from what her father charged her to do when he gave her the bow; she'd gone from warrior and protector to a savage willing to murder the helpless and innocents. And her thousand-yard stare while mumbling, 'A son for a son' brings it to a much creepier level, giving the audience the sense that she's unstable as hell, barely in control, and Spider's right to be as scared of Neytiri as he is. It absolutely makes Spider's actions in saving Quaritch from drowning resonate better. Spider's always been revealed as selfless and compassionate, but in that scene Quaritch showed just how much more he actually cared about Spider's safety than he did about keeping the upper hand. We (and Spider) don't know if Quaritch was just bluffing by threatening Kiri, but by keeping that scene, everyone would've known for sure Neytiri wasn't. She was willing to sink to a level so low, even Quaritch may not have gone there. He was willing to use kids as bait or as hostages, but Neytiri would outright kill them for revenge.

Do we see what happened to Mansk in this deleted scene? I know that he's the only recom unaccounted for in the theatrical cut, and it looks like he was the soldier whose weapon Jake took!

this makes everything make more sense + neytiri's rage is just 10x more intense showing her really going psycho enough to even make quaritch and jake worried

My girl was standing on business I don’t know why they cut that scene. I literally would have been standing up watching that scene

Omg yeah why didn’t they not keep it!!!

Fun fact: the original script for the first AVATAR :2009, was R rated but James Cameron changel it to PG13 because he wanted younger audiences to be able to watch it too. So yeah when I see dark moments like this in these films I am not surprised at all.

Zoe Saldana is such a good actress

I think they should have kept the stabbing scenes because that really would have sold spiders fear. It helps justify Spider saving his bio dad at the end. Other than that, I do think the decision of removing the talking down Neytiri part was good. It really would have been way too far bc he is practically her son too. I think their relationship will be a pivotal point in the next films and will hopefully bridge the gap between humans and Navi

Sylwanin would be disappointed in Neytiri if she saw what she tried to do to Spider, as she would give her daughters the same pain she suffered when she lost her older sister.But with Tuk and Kiri, they would be devastated to lose not just one but two brothers in a single day. And who's to say whether or not Kiri would forgive her for killing her favorite adopted older brother?

I think it would have been too dark. Neytiri is a fan favourite and her being not just willing but almost eager to kill a child she has known all his life for revenge would have destroyed a lot of sympathy for her with viewers. It also would make an eventual reconciliation between her and Spider almost impossible, or at least very difficult. I like this scene as it confirms that Neytiri wasn't bluffing (which I have been saying all this time), but I'm also glad they went with a less intense version for the final cut.

They should've kept the scene. Idc, this is canon. This is exactly how I wanted Neytiri to act foreal

This better explains why Spider saved Quaritch from drowning. Neytiri made Spider feel ‘other’ here.

I could tell there were some significant inconsistencies in character for Quaritch and the deleted scenes absolutely address SOME of that. They should have kept the Neytiri scene because it switches the narrative to a more fullsome picture of the events. Watching the theatrical release feels like watching half a movie.

This scene would also give a valuable reason for Spider to save his father. Spider must have felt himself betrayed. Quarrithc in the end agreed in oder to save him, but Neytiri never liked him. There are just many scenes who should have been maintained😅

It’s really sad, they don’t keep this amazing scene.

I think leaving this scene in would have did more to bring the light/dark balance closer to 50/50. In not just this movie but the first and second one together. I'm not sure what her storyline will be in later films, but seeing Ney'tiri at her absolute darkest and doing her worst, will show how far she has come with her character arc by the end of the final Avatar film. If this movie were the final film, I'd be more in favor of toning down her savagery. But without knowing her character arc in future films, leaving this in uncut might ultimately have proven to be a better decision.

Don't mess with the Sully's

Can't believe they deleted it. It would be the best scene give some complexity to this disney like fairytail.

Still hoping that Neytiri and Spider find way to be family.

Neytiri has always been prone to anger to the point it's kinda her main character trait.

She’s got the right to grieve but you can’t blame the actions of the father on the son

The VFX still amaze me 😅

Even in the theatrical cut, it’s cool that the ratings board let Cameron get away with so much violence and still keep its PG-13 rating.