Part 4 - IndyCar Hybrid Engine Roundtable hosted RACER's Marshall Pruett presented by Skip Barber

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Take an exclusive look at the NTT IndyCar Series' new hybrid engine technology that's coming in 2024 done in partnership with Chevrolet and Honda in the final chapter of RACER's four-part series.
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@jamesbowman7963 Год назад

Truly hoping this is a success. I have put almost 230K miles on a used Honda insight and average 50MPG. My feelings are the cost vs advantage power and weight penalty wise are not there. I see a lot more breakdowns happening but again there will be much learned no doubt. IndyCar is the best racing today and I love both manufacturers. I grew up building small block chevy's with my dad, uncle and cousin. Serious question has powering the front wheels even been discussed? Great interviews enjoy this content.

@jonlinen225 Год назад

I have a 9 year old accord that still does 26 mpg local and 34 mpg highway w 4 adults riding in it. Non-hybrid. Looking to move to a hybrid for the next one.

@scarecrow_9895 Год назад

My c5 corvette gets 29 mpg on road trips.

@jamesbowman7963 Год назад

@@scarecrow_9895 That is pretty good. I had a hopped up but still TPI (425-450hp) 89 formula 350 Firebird with a T-56 6 speed behind it that got 26 mpg at 75 mph +... I think if I slowed down a bit probably 29-30 mpg could have happened.

@scarecrow_9895 Год назад

@@jamesbowman7963 We can get good mileage if we keep our foot off it, but that is hard to do sometimes.

@danielhenderson8316 Год назад

No talk of powering the front axle. It would require a complete redesign of the car to send power to the front wheels. I'm also not sure of any formula car designed to run the front wheels except maybe Formula E.

@drivernumber4262 Год назад

On one hand, I'm excited for something....anything....new for IndyCar technology wise. On the other, IndyCar management has been totally inept at seemingly everything other than promoting and running the 500 and IMS. Here's hoping the manufacturers involvement will ensure this project goes well.

@captainjosue Год назад

It sounds as if Honda and Chevy are leading this program and indycar is staying away. I think this is good for reasons you mentioned that indycar has been so inept in many areas other than running and promoting the 500.

@Rainman... Год назад

This may also be one of the reasons why other manufacturers don't want to enter? Because in spite of itself Indycar is on the rise...

@alistairfannell6694 Год назад

@@captainjosue I do believe there will be another engine coming to IndyCar

@captainjosue Год назад

@@alistairfannell6694 New engine formula? OR new engine OEM? Or both? I still have hope that both will arrive

@alistairfannell6694 Год назад

@@captainjosue new OEM

@haroldduncan6367 Год назад

Watched all 4 parts. Good work Marshall Pruett. Oh yeah I,m a hard copy guy this is a first for me.

@KerrTekDesign39 Год назад

Will the cars have on board starter?

@goodshipkaraboudjan Год назад

I believe so which will be interesting to see how much that changes the game, should mean a lot less yellows.

@benrupp04 Год назад

If they feel they have to go down this road then fine but don’t make the same mistakes F1 did by ruining the sound of the engines. Sound is one of the most important parts of the fan experience.

@Erik_Taurus Год назад

As far as I know push to pass isn't available on ovals. So how would this hybrid solution be used on ovals? Not being an engineer I guess the regeneration would be next to zero as the cars go flat out 99% of the race.

@AceP40 Год назад

how will regen work on a superspeedway?

@danielhenderson8316 Год назад

To be determined. I know they've tested at the IMS Road Course, but I'm not sure when the oval test is scheduled.

@u-wot-n8 Год назад

The drivers will have a fiddle brake paddle Where you see drivers lifting to make corners in the dirty air will be an opportunity to run more throttle and drag the fiddle brake to regenerate energy to deploy later

@izzdin6228 Год назад

@@u-wot-n8 adds another element of strategy. In the tow if you're saving fuel, just pull the hybrid paddle on the wheel and let the car in front pull you as you recharge your hybrid. Then when the time is right you dump your energy reserves and pass by like nfs nitrous.

@mistrphixit7484 Год назад

I'm thinking hitting the regen button would reduce the overall power to the wheels. Drivers lose a couple hrspwr to get a couple seconds of 150 in a kind of high risk high reward scenario. You would have to draft behind someone to regen. The strategy comes in where available electric power would have to be managed as you don't know what stagegy other drivers are using.

@stephenjarzombek2903 Год назад

@@mistrphixit7484 You are correct, there's no free lunch in thermodynamics. All the power that ends up in the capacitor comes from burning fuel...it's just that it's not wasted in brake heat. If lifting is enough to slow the car, using the regen paddle instead requires the driver to stay on the throttle enough to burn the extra fuel required to generate that energy. The other issue is that there are heat and frictional losses in any such system--you always get back less energy to the wheels than you harvested into the capacitor. Thus on an oval, any driver on a fuel save strategy will not be able to use the system effectively other than to regenerate power when slowing to pit.

@taylorsmith4758 Год назад

It's hard to Defy Everything when you're fast, loud, and unapologetic. I mean authentic! But seriously, I just hope it's a net positive in the power to weight department.

@danielhenderson8316 Год назад

Right now it's 100 hp for 60 lbs, and the aeroscreen gets lighter and stronger next year as well. It does make me wonder if they'll up the boost on road courses since they won't be overboosting the engine next year.

@izzdin6228 Год назад

@@danielhenderson8316 I'm curious about this as well. They're running 700hp on road courses, with p2p upping up to 750hp. Will they be running 750hp from the get go and letting the hybrid up the power to 850hp total? I hope this is the case.

@taylorsmith4758 Год назад

@danielhenderson8316 I hope that's the case. Unclear if the supercapacitor unit requires a battery, or if it's just a 60 lb increase. Hybrid road car batteries are very heavy

@izzdin6228 Год назад

@@taylorsmith4758 the supercapacitor is where the energy is stored. No heavy lithium battery packs here.

@taylorsmith4758 Год назад

@@izzdin6228 Nice, thanks. I'm still disapointed that we don't get the 2.4L's

@Bossman816 Год назад

Indycar will let the manufacturers drive them down the road of formula e. Its the beginning of the end. Sad to hear

@Rainman... Год назад

The real question isn't road relevance The real question is does George Soros approve of this? Will your ESG and CEI scores go up?

@freedom6919741 Год назад

I am not sure where they will get the electricity to charge all these electric cars. I guess coal.

@davidholmer6099 Год назад

Watch all four parts of this series. The energy is stored in a capacitor, not a battery. Fast discharge, fast recharge is the benefit. The capacitor will be recharged by the engine which is powered by non-food chain based ethanol. 100 extra HP makes an 800 HP engine a 900 HP engine without extra strain and wear on the ICE components. It a win all around.

@izzdin6228 Год назад

@@davidholmer6099 but will they run the engine at that power from the get go? Because they only run 700hp on the road course setup and p2p adds 50hp. I'm curious whether they run the engines at full 750hp and just supplement 100hp with the capacitor or they just directly replace the 50hp p2p with 100hp hybrid for a net gain of only 50hp?

@456MrPeople Год назад

Such a dumb statement. As a country we could use renewable technology as an economic opportunity but politicians in Washington get their paychecks from fossil fuel lobbyists.

@andrewahern3730 Год назад

What electric cars?

@r.a.monigold9789 Год назад

Let's put extremely explosive racing fuel in a race car with high voltage electrical batteries that are know to self combust. What could possibly go wrong?

@davidholmer6099 Год назад

The system uses a capacitor, not a battery.

@456MrPeople Год назад

Hybrid technology in racing isn't exactly a new thing you know.