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Part One: The Finders: CIA Child Trafficking Cult or Just Normal Cult? | BEHIND THE BASTARDS
Robert sits down with Jamie Loftus to tell the tale of Marion Petty, the man whose cult was accused of trafficking children and may have been part of a CIA op. Or not! It's very unclear!
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@jellyfishjones4741 4 месяца назад

"She's not using it." Jamie is a kindred spirit.

@LunaLasceria 4 месяца назад

I'd argue that saying you "have sex twice a week **whenever possible**" really says absolutely nothing about how much sex you're having.

@guiltygearalonecompl 4 месяца назад

The math is pretty jittery

@kennethmoore7770 4 месяца назад

It says that three times is a little more than you're willing to try for

@0The_Farlander0 4 месяца назад

Had to pause the video and walk away from my phone at "techno remix of the kavanaugh hearing". Gonna come back to this later once whatever this did to my brain has equalized with the rest in my head

@thomaskalinowski8851 4 месяца назад

Who needs a techno mix? The Kavanaugh hearing/Pulp Fiction mashup is all we need.

@fett01 4 месяца назад

Sooooo this podcast is giving me the impression that my desire to have a human skull for my office desk is not socially acceptable? Ok. Noted.

@jeffhiggins4478 4 месяца назад

Ugggh. This ridiculous country and its puritanical values. (eye roll)

@idontwantahandlethough 4 месяца назад

if people get weird about it, just tell them it's fake. I feel like having a fake skull is 4 or 5 times more believable than having a real one (assuming you aren't a taxidermist, mortician, doctor, or boneologist. And assuming they aren't a boneologist either, they won't know that it's not real!)

@NimhLabs 4 месяца назад

You don't need that kind of negativity in your life. Have the human skull, and don't listen to the haters

@amberbydreamsart5467 4 месяца назад

Primary issue with obtaining human remains is the morality around them getting obtained; a lot of remains on the market are either.. smuggled remains from people who did not want their remains to be put on display, or like.. from shady overseas sources (see the controversy over the 'Bodies' exhibits quite possibly containing the remains of executed chinese prisoners). That's, at least, the problem for people who have thought about it beyond the more common initial squick of either not wanting to see human remains or feeling a sense that having remains as a display piece is disrespectful.

@DeaDiabola 4 месяца назад

Or you get repurposed antique ones, like the one that I have (its also a lamp). :) Got it from a tiny museum that sells a lot of wacky stuff they display. I truly hope the backstory was legit, I really want a "boneologist" to look at her and give me an idea of who she was, when she lived and where, so on. They sell a ton of old vintage stuff - much of which is medical-related, taxidermy and the like. I assume it was from an old specimen of some kind. @@amberbydreamsart5467

@cousinted 3 месяца назад

I feel like putting that techno-remix of the Kavanaugh Hearings on during a spin class is actually a very smart idea because it'll trigger all the participants fight or flight response and get them to peddle faster in an effort to gtfo!

@Speedojesus 4 месяца назад

Somebody's got to be asking the important questions, like "where are the mole children under the White House's series of tunnels? How many are there? Do they mine precious minerals and resources under there for the president who rules them with an iron fist, or are they just used for their adrenochrome? Have they adapted to the low light conditions and evolved rodent like features like the Falmer, or are they super-intelligent engineers like the Dwemer?" They may be controversial questions, and I may disagree with the people who ask them, but they should have the right to I do dare say.

@Ezekiel_Allium 4 месяца назад

Me when the mole children under the white house use harmonics to crack open the universe like an egg and start boiling it until they build a grand destroying machine god that will in the future be wielded by a gestalt deity-emperor to bring acauasal destruction to all of his/their/its enemies and unifying nearly the whole continent under his banner while the hawaiians, the high elves in this scenario, fight an endless time war with the temporal echo of that same machine god because it split reality so bad the siege is still ongoing and over at the same time and wizard hawaiians from our timeline have to send reinforcements to the war timeline to fend off the destruction of the universe. ...conspiracy theories would be more fun if they just ripped off kirkbridian elder scrolls lore wholesale, is what I'm saying

@miguelvelez7221 4 месяца назад

Nope.

@marocat4749 3 месяца назад

Asmundsgolds children from the mold?

@Fireflies779 3 месяца назад

🤣🤣

@chrisball3778 4 месяца назад

I'm not sure that the martial art he supposedly learned not having a name is that suspicious if he actually learned it from a Chinese person in the 30's or early 40's. A lot of the names for martial arts used in modern English wouldn't have been established at that time, and the Chinese terms are more varied. Jiujitsu was one of the only types of Asian martial arts that was widely known in America pre-war, so it would have been the go-to term for someone of his generation describing them. Interest in Asian martial arts in the US increased dramatically as a result of servicemen being stationed in Asia, but only really hit the mainstream during the Kung Fu movie boom in the 70's The story as a whole still sounds deeply sus, though.

@UntiltedName 2 месяца назад

oh man, the spin class got me. At the height of my mountain bike racing career decently ranked in cat2, my dad took me to a random spin class one night when I was visiting. Could not get out of there fast enough. The shia lebuff memes from a decade later had the same kind of "you got this" energy.

@darkstarmike85 4 месяца назад

@8:30 You're my favorite guest, Jamie.

@rothloaf1980 4 месяца назад

Jamie "The Hammer" Loftus

@neongrey333 4 месяца назад

46:21 calling bill cooper the proto alex jones lmao just thinking of how much he would hate that is hilarious

@idontwantahandlethough 4 месяца назад

@18:26 I realize that they almost certainly did not put him in a combat role (unless he was like.. a sneaky trench/tunnel crawler kid or something), but I really want a movie about the squad that had a 12 year old soldier in it. I think they'd have to play it as a dark comedy, but there's a pretty funny premise in there. Or maybe the whole squad is kids, and everyone else isn't, and nobody is seemingly bothered by it or ever mentions the fact that they're literally 12 😂

@marocat4749 3 месяца назад

Yes and surrealist dark comedy, but yes.

@Bluecho4 3 месяца назад

Sounds like actual warzones, unironically. WWII was full of that shit. Especially on the sides of both the Russians and Germans. The Hitler Youth were pressganged into combat roles near the end of the war.

@magpieMOB 4 месяца назад

I refuse to contribute to the misinformation campaign around Jamie being a sequence killer, but there exists a goblin in me that still wants to see what would happen. I am overruling that goblin, because we've seen what humans in the wild will do with satire. There's a reason Poe's Law is a thing

@Mute-chan420 4 месяца назад

I'm a first time listener and I was scared this was going to be right wing nutjob rambling but this was absolutely amazing! Great podcast!

@BehindTheBastards 4 месяца назад

Great to hear!

@artseosamhogriobhta 2 месяца назад

I didn't even consider that but thank you for warning me. I have now researched the host and found out he is working with Bellingcat, a literal CIA operation. I can safely dismiss this podcast as intentionally obfuscating. I think the right wing nut jobs are probably the ones to listen to about this.

@lukedaniels7750 4 месяца назад

Wow. How do you manage to put out two hour long videos a week that are really well researched ? You must have a really big team working for you.

@thishandleistacken 4 месяца назад

They are poorly researched and buy into propaganda and push false narratives. Im a lefty anti cult progressive who was in an occult cult for a decade and have learned quite well how to research these things without either arming the idiotic far right conspiracy nuts or the people who are building defenced arround an indefensible group. I even edit without showing my hate for the wiki of my past cult the OTO because accurate history means more to me than my disdain and personal opinions or how I can spin a topic to match my politics.

@QuesQueriosityQuabinet 3 месяца назад

"A lot of weird kids come out of the lower middle class. It's a real danger." Oh, you don't know how right you are! Fingered! There is the contrast, a cosmic slap in the face, between your hopes and dreams versus the likelihood that you will live a dreary life of drudgery stranded in an asphalt jungle. We were stuffed with mindsets encouraging us to settle for less and manipulated to accept rigid, unimaginative race and gender roles.

@siobhanroberts2329 4 месяца назад

Good ol' mescalito strikes again. That tricky gnat.

@Amelthon 4 месяца назад

I kinda want to hear that techno remix

@willwright5912 4 месяца назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Kwm52hSCtuw.htmlsi=z8JPXcYbeuHMMeYS

@DeaDiabola 4 месяца назад

I gotchu fam. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Kwm52hSCtuw.html

@greggreenfield5532 4 месяца назад

I live in Grand Rapids, MI!!! I'll have to keep my eyes open for bedazzled hammers! Haha

@xjuicemo616x5 3 месяца назад

Me too 😂 I was laughing my head off 😂

@KurtisHord 4 месяца назад

“I don’t buy human remains, yet”

@KurtisHord 4 месяца назад

Watch list tho

@Bluecho4 3 месяца назад

@@KurtisHord Robert is on watch lists for many different, spicier reasons than "professed intent to one day purchase human remains".

@se9865 4 месяца назад

So, I just googled Jamie Lof, and Google completed tus Grand Rapids. Nothing about murders though.

@jacksonayres6326 4 месяца назад

It's predictive.

@user-yq3jg9kr3t 4 месяца назад

Now, why is Jamie withholding that techno remix from us. Don't be shy, share the yt link for the remix, i know it's out there

@katieholland4244 4 месяца назад

I don't remember how I found this podcast but I'm glad I did

@BehindTheBastards 4 месяца назад

Keep Listening!

@louisms 4 месяца назад

For all of us stoners in the 90s Carlos Castaneda was a legend.

@EvilGenius007 4 месяца назад

Did Robert get a new mic or just eat a full box of cigars?

@meatmobile 4 месяца назад

Its actually completely safe to eat cigars. Their venom only works if they bite you.

@EvilGenius007 4 месяца назад

"She's not using it." Great, now I'm not using anything.

@JohnsonCocker 4 месяца назад

He got them from ComicallyOversizedCigars

@MrJohndoakes 4 месяца назад

Mic.

@joshinthewoods 4 месяца назад

this robert guy sure is a mic hog on Jamie's podcast.

@RexytheRexy 3 месяца назад

I'm so thankful this podcast exists.

@meatmobile 4 месяца назад

Cant wait to find out if this has something to do with Qanon somehow. These types always do end up having something to do with that crazy cult. Edit: I fucking knew it (Jamie is always good to see, also!)

@EvilGenius007 4 месяца назад

The bingo card that has "CIA" "Child Trafficking" and "Cult" is the one where the free space is labeled "Qanon".

@MrJohndoakes 4 месяца назад

QAnon sees the Finders as a prototype for the sex trafficking gangs they think exist, gangs they think are "deep state" (CIA, FBI, NSA) projects..... because you have to get the adrenochrome from somewhere.

@majuuorthrus3340 4 месяца назад

I once found mortuary trochar ASMR videos whilst doing reasearch for fanfic, and I think Brett Cavanagh Hearings Techno Remix might have it beat for weirdly specific recordings.

@ZorroinArkham 4 месяца назад

I listened to the next episode. Very upset. You said the Finders didn't sex traffick children but the only reason I know the Finders, is because police found them sex trafficking children across state lines to get to Mexico.

@paperandpavement 4 месяца назад

You know the truth, this guy on the podcast is a clown.

@gapsule2326 4 месяца назад

He literally covers that next episode.

@erinbarnard7433 4 месяца назад

This cult is the worst LARP ever.

@ZorroinArkham 4 месяца назад

You left out the weird ass Cyberdecks they were found with

@stopntrafficinmyrastahat5107 Месяц назад

Elaborate.....

@MrJohndoakes 4 месяца назад

30:00 For the record the Navy, Marines, and Air Force are all roughly structured like the Army, with enlisted ranks, warrant officers, then the regular officers running from lieutenant to general and then general ranks above that to field marshal depending on the war.

@steelersguy74 4 месяца назад

Except the Air Force doesn’t have Warrants.

@MrJohndoakes 4 месяца назад

@@steelersguy74 I was talking about the people above Sergeants but below Lieutenants. In the Navy they are Chiefs, but I forget what they are in the Air Force, Army, or Marines.

@steelersguy74 4 месяца назад

@@MrJohndoakes Are you in the Navy?

@foolsfolly3476 4 месяца назад

The finders were an actual black bag op, this is the first I’ve heard qAnon takin it on; nevertheless, even a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again🤷‍♂️

@klutterkicker 4 месяца назад

He's definitely one of those guys who joins the army because he wants to be the drill instructor from Full Metal Jacket, or maybe worse,

@MrJohndoakes 4 месяца назад

That guy was a Marine, not a soldier and a Gunnery Sergeant to boot.

@cherrypopscile3385 3 месяца назад

It is insanely funny that "The CIA funded a sex cult" was just.... Entirely believable.

@MaterialMenteNo 4 месяца назад

Finders keepers, amirite? (oh my god)

@MrDevival 4 месяца назад

Hard agree on having a meeting skull

@veldin25 4 месяца назад

I think the three Caucasians pretend daughter landlord was more concerned about avoiding some sort of tax, and accusations for having 3 young women around lmao

@maximeteppe7627 2 месяца назад

my thoughts as well. But the impulse to put up with a lot for the sake of a nice living place is real regardless of whatever that guy was up to. I put up with a pretty nightmarish flatmate for 9 months before I decided to flee in the night.

@r.w.bottorff7735 4 месяца назад

Another Jamie Loftus episode, whoo! She should just be your one guest.

@adam346 3 месяца назад

I had to look up what a Memento Mori was because it was either I didn't know what it was or she was making a Lamb of God reference... both worked but I had to be sure. It is a memento to remind you of death or mortality but I am still going to pretend it was a Lamb of God reference.

@imeowmeowkat 4 месяца назад

The last time i heard about this cult was tying it into elsagate shit

@miguelvelez7221 4 месяца назад

Afraid to ask... What's ELSAGATE?

@meatmobile 4 месяца назад

@@miguelvelez7221 A bunch of ai generated content farms making those spiderman elsa videos got caught slipping extreme violence or explicit pornography into videos meant for ipad babies, IIRC.

@AnonymousAnarchist2 4 месяца назад

Too many "-gates" we need new suffexes for these things, save the gates for politcal misconduct and abuse of power.

@wesshiflet2214 4 месяца назад

@@AnonymousAnarchist2save the gates for hotel-related scandals

@foolsfolly3476 4 месяца назад

⁠@@wesshiflet2214 Craig Spence?

@JayBagent 4 месяца назад

Human taxidermy... "Hey I've got this lamp. The previous owner said it was an Ed Gein original...0"

@warmwestwind 4 месяца назад

2024 is our year, I think.

@katieholland4244 4 месяца назад

All the talk about skulls reminded me of that dude that was selling body parts out of the Harvard morgue

@shmehfleh3115 4 месяца назад

400 bucks for rent? Fuck yeah, I'll be your alibi!

@hungryhedgehog4201 4 месяца назад

Jamie episode :D

@jonkunnu8792 3 месяца назад

Tallahassee is involved. It must be true.

@tomquirk6767 4 месяца назад

46:00

@mndrew1 4 месяца назад

This guy is Steven Segal's big brother, right?

@KurtisHord 4 месяца назад

She’s doing jewelry now

@user-6723SPD 3 месяца назад

So we're bow hosting comedy hour about child trafficking and sex crimes ?? Yall are so cool

@sellinganja 4 месяца назад

Jamie loftus has killed stop hammer time

@THEHAR0LD 4 месяца назад

I'm 10 minutes in, and honestly grave robbing is an over rated taboo. If they aren't Jewish or Muslim graves (because those faiths have a thing about being buried whole iirc) then honestly where's the harm? The corpses aren't using those bones. Like I get why it's unseemly, but compared to some of the stuff that gets discussed on this podcast, it's pretty small fry mischief imo. EDIT 12 minutes in: Holy shit!? I guess the logic is to induce a fight or flight response in the cycle class so you go faster?

@paperandpavement 4 месяца назад

Grave robbing isnt a taboo? Morals started as a slippery slope but have become a landslide.

@satyasyasatyasya5746 4 месяца назад

because how the dead are treated speaks to how we treat eachother, how we'd like to be treated ourselves etc. Its a whole social, psychological and evolutionary thing. Even elephants mourn, and respect the bones of the dead.

@violet7773 3 месяца назад

It's odd that you would be respectful of a person's religious beliefs after death but not their bodily autonomy Also, those are not the only religions/cultures that say that a person needs to be whole in order to have peace in death. I think it's a common belief in Korea as well, for example

@jaynoname9659 20 дней назад

This is the most retarded, braindead take I've ever heard in my life.

@jaynoname9659 20 дней назад

It's crazy that you feel like someone has to be apart of a religion in order to care about their dead loved ones bodily autonomy after death. As an agnostic atheist, id be livid if someone defiled and stole from my loved ones grave.

@KuleKearns-un5yd 3 месяца назад

way to down play, gross.

@leonscott543 3 месяца назад

Is this a joke? This story is very well documented. And its documented as well that the cia intervened on behalf of the men. Its nuts that you would try your best to just toss the word Qanon at this when Qanon hasnt actually even dealt with this to begin with is nuts

@paperandpavement 3 месяца назад

This podcast doesnt believe in facts and research, if it did it would know that there was a cover up and there were actual pictures of kids being abused. About the sheriff who was pressed to drop the case and all of that related to the CIA.

@thishandleistacken 4 месяца назад

The intro alone does not bode well for this... I'm an ex cultist (decade within the Thelemic Order the Ordo Templi Orientis) who now specializes in separating fact from fiction around conspiracy theories and, secret societies and cults. Your political lens has entitely blinded you from being objective. Q should not be the what is brought up first nor the SRA panic. Viewers of this should firsr read the actual documents then watch the blameironjorge vieeo on the topic (when a channel with that audience handles this with more tact, seriousness and journalisic integretiy you've not done a good job). By all means bring.your trademaek humour but your framing of thw topic and evidence leads the audience and even the cohost who didnt know what this is all about to pick a aide before knowing what is going on... and people tend to side with their primary opinions. Very disappointing. Do better.

@jaynoname9659 20 дней назад

I really hate how he makes light of child abuse in the first ten minutes.

@thishandleistacken 20 дней назад

@@jaynoname9659 yup, same here. I haven't checked on this show since trying this episode. is it ever any good and worth giving another chance?

@Southboundpachyderm 4 месяца назад

Bring on Vaush.

@tnreprasentog7769 3 месяца назад

I can't get through this bullshit lol nothing's worse than someone who's not funny laughing at their own jokes ew

@leonscott543 3 месяца назад

Why would you connect this to Qanon? This happened decades ago. Qanon isnt even over 10 years old !

@justcommenting4981 4 месяца назад

Why are peoplx sayxng unhoused? Sounds like undead. What was wrong with homeless people? Arbitrarily switching your language is effectively letting others control it. I get it signals in group vs outgroups but it is among the more absurd linguistic shifts.

@stella-vu8vh 4 месяца назад

Just because you don't have a house doesn't mean you don't have a home

@justcommenting4981 4 месяца назад

@@stella-vu8vh goofy af. Like what an apartment?

@marocat4749 3 месяца назад

That, thats exactly way, weaponized shame and trying to downplaying how severe the problems are. I get people not wanting to admit they were homeless, but , its two things used generally to play it down, on purpose.

@marocat4749 3 месяца назад

@@justcommenting4981 If yiou are in an apartement you legally live and pay, or someone else, you are housed. I mean if you legallly are living there and have an adress there. Its still homeless doing couchsurfing to get by and having none.

@justcommenting4981 3 месяца назад

@@marocat4749 you aren't housed, you're in an apartment.