Part Two: The Andrew Tate Story | BEHIND THE BASTARDS 

"I know writers who use subtext and they are all cowards"

Many regional Australian accents resemble slowed-down Cockney.

Super-Special forces.

It's possible. In one of the earlier episodes, they talk about someone who enlisted at the age of 15, and while that was in the 30s, it seems possible that his dad could've enlisted and been shipped at a comparative age, but I'll grant that there's a very slim chance he did anything meaningful there, if he was there at all.

@@GuerillaBunny OK, then we'll also have to point out that U.S. ground troops were pretty much withdrawn by the early 70's! And if he had joined at a very early age, that's the kind of thing people point out later. I'm not even aware of any underage kids sneaking in stories for Vietnam. WWII, for sure, as one of them earned a Medal of Honor on Iowa Jima.

The Brothers Grunt (and their mytho-poetry tales)

Still better than the US police.

@@NoMoreSuperHero Let's say worse in different ways. A pig's a pig, no matter the lipstick.

That's just police incompetence in general, IMHO. [READ MORE] (TW: serial killers, murder, execution) Although another story about UK police I know is the time they allowed serial killer John Christie to slip through their fingers (and helped him frame an innocent man for two of his crimes). Christie killed a woman and her child, and her husband/the child's father reported him to the cops for this. Christie had been a War Reserve Police member during WWII (despite having an extensive criminal record even at the time he'd joined). So the cops basically trusted him more than they did the deceased woman's husband/the father of the deceased child. The cops also later pressured a confession from the husband, which he would later claim at trial he'd given under duress. (It didn't help that the husband had originally changed his story once, since he and his wife had been seeking an abortion from Christie and he'd been trying to avoid telling the cops that, but there was no evidence tying him to the crimes other than that fact.) Christie testified at the husband's trial as a witness for the prosecution. The husband, Timothy Evans, was convicted and then executed for the murders of his wife and child, years before Christie was eventually caught and revealed to be a serial killer. During the time before he was caught, of course, Christie was able to commit more murders. (The police inexplicably insisted for years that Evans was guilty of at least one murder, even after Christie was caught, and confessed to the murder of Evans' wife. Eventually, the cops admitted that Evans probably hadn't killed his own child, although they insisted he'd killed his wife despite the lack of evidence for WAY too long. Evans got a posthumous pardon eventually, but the way the case was publicly treated by UK authorities even after it was publicly revealed to have been mishandled originally, is insane to me.) It was later discovered that Christie had several victims' bodies buried in shallow graves in his garden, as well as stashed under his floorboards and in his walls (where an actual search could probably have found some trace of some of them relatively easily). As I recall, the bodies of Evans' wife and child were also found buried in Christie's garden. (I've also heard Christie was using a human bone to either hold up his picket fence, or patch a hole in the fence with it, but that part might be a myth.) Anyway, ACAB.

Same here. Maybe Robert is Da Redd Gobbo?!? I mean, the true one...

Def orks

And yet, they do 😢

He's got a cult of personality made up of insecure teenage boys on the internet.

The best part is how dumb it sounds to anyone who knows anything about neonatal care XD I grow increasingly convinced that the solution to men like Andrew Tate is inoculation. Expose teenage boys to diverse life experience and someone like Tate basically implodes in on himself from a lack of substance.

I think it's because the Holocaust was a long time ago, not to deny current antisemitism, while Andrew Tate is a very much alive contemporary

Oh, you mentioned it

It's really funny because APGAR is scored on five points.

Tate likes trolling it's obviously satire, bit people are so soft and look for anything to jump on someone with opposing beliefs regardless of what and or who they are. I like Tate, I don't agree with everything he says in satire, but telling people to be critical thinkers, analyze everything that's ever told to you, be strong and work to achieve your goals what's wrong with that exactly?

​@@chemdawg5648 There isn't anything wrong with that, but it's also far from unique to him, and it isn't the part that people are objecting to. Not everything he says is destructive nonsense, but the good points that he makes are insights that have been around literally since antiquity. His only innovation is setting himself up as the face of these ideas for a new generation. And as for the stuff that *is* destructive nonsense? Only so much can be written off as "satire". You can claim it's satire when he says that a man should condition his women (plural) into obedience while expecting absolute loyalty and freedom for himself, but that doesn't stand up when he brags about luring women to Romania on "romantic getaways" and then intimidating them into prostitution. You can claim it's satire when he says that a true man should be ruthless and cutthroat, but that doesn't stand up when his economics courses advise you to cheat people by selling them non-existent products. I could go on, but the point is that his actions and lifestyle bely any attempt to pass off his less savory ideas as "just a joke, man". The toxic things about his rhetoric aren't accidental, either. He's doing the classic cult leader thing where he identifies a common problem, leads with good advice to solve it, and then uses that good advice as a trojan horse to slip in a bunch of ideas that are, by design, insane. People join the in-group because they feel indebted to Tate for the good advice, and then the in-group circles their wagons because everyone outside of it attacks them for the insane stuff. It's the one-two-punch of populism. Fundamentally, the problem is really simple: the current culture impedes boys and young men from forming deep personal relationships, leaving them lonely and confused. But the culprit isn't feminists going after men with testosterone-vacuums, or "alphabet people" trying to abolish gender, or women withholding sex as a means to gain power. It's a work/rearing environment that separates parents from children for most of the day, and a culture that tells boys that emotional intimacy is gay and competition is the only valid form of interaction with each other. And no amount of money or casual sexual flings is capable of filling that hole that creates.

​@@chemdawg5648See this defense of all these public figures "Naw, you don't get it, my dude is always just trolling..." is a pretty empty defense. I mean another way to characterize someone that's "Always trolling" is... Asshole. So he's an asshole, who is also a grifter.

​@@Cornix94 Well said!! 🙏

Sophie is literally the best part of this podcast

@@andrewputnam2717 that's unfortunate to hear. I'm relatively new to this podcast and love the premise. Not to mention I despise Andrew tate. But the first episode of this was just full of Sophie interrupting, being obnoxious, seemingly irritated, and just complaining. That was my intro to this podcast. I was hoping she was just a guest or something. That was insufferable.

@@cyclonic7134 she's not in every video but she's the producer and does have a lot to say

@@andrewputnam2717 thanks! To be clear though, having a lot to say isn't the issue I had. It was her rudeness and inability to just not interrupt people with her odd desire to constantly inform the audience that she didn't like the people being discussed. Like, we get it you don't need to interrupt the other hosts every 30 seconds with some non-contributing groan or whatever

​@@cyclonic7134 Absolutely agree with you. Sophie is annoying in these episodes. And I totally understand why this subject probably doesn't make her feel super chipper, but at the same time, constantly listening to her be irritated and negative is not much fun to listen to.

You seem to have no life, I pity you.

If he is found guilty of the crimes he's accused of I hope you change your mind.

@@Im-the-greatest Top G is not a man regardless..its an idea 🚀🎯💯

@@godisgood117 An idea for a cheesy, over-the-top, cringey villain from some under budget 80's action film.

@@kapnkerf2532 like ur profile pic or?

@@godisgood117 Actually, yeah. It would make a good fit too. Hmm, maybe I should write up a quick screenplay. We could probably get Steven Segal onboard then some financing. Now I'm thinking the Andrew Tate character is just the lieutenant to the main Jamacian crime boss Kapn Kerf who is developing a new "super-ganja" that makes teens go crazy and kill people! They have to halo-drop Kevin Sorbo and Logan Paul (hmm, maybe Jake Paul, Logan might cost too much) into the jungle to stop him. Jake is the wacky loose-canon and Kevin the no-nonsense one. Man, let's get treatment written and pass it around. This is good stuff.

What do you think about the voice notes? Seems pretty damning.

@@PhysHow42 ai is smart enough to literally copy voices. Seems pretty damning

@@zkidz3094 Spooky stuff. Is Andrew Tate even real? We'll never know.

@@PhysHow42 he is, but you know. Use your head, if you were the most Google man on earth would you do anything illegal. You wouldn't. Andrew isn't stupid he's probably smarter than me and you.

@@zkidz3094 the quotes from his business course where he explicitly states that part of his business model is to use illegal practices must be AI generated too. This really is getting spooky now. "Do you really think a famous person would do illegal stuff??" is quite a funny question by the way.

disagree, i like the different energies

No, she does great. I like her input. These three have a great dynamic going on. It is fun to listen to. You are the negative one.

Love Sophie. Always.

I get where you’re coming from but I think it’d be very hard to find anything funny in what Tate has done as a woman, and her disgust is fully legitimate