Pastor Refutes Protestor at Church 

Seems like Apoloyon favors the left tho

How so? I'm hearing a debate about Biblical principals..

Amen Jason! I have been thinking the same. Especially this past year. So much deeper than politics. And I keep seeing more and more people like this woman who claim to be a child of God. They are doing the devil's work trying to discredit Christians and in reality, trying to discredit Christ while being deceived thinking they follow Him. I'm heartbroken to see so many people claim to be Christian who aren't and don't deny themselves and follow Jesus. They don't read the scriptures nor hunger for it, and they don't love and worship God they only serve themselves and their desires. "These people honor me with their lips but their hearts are far from me"

Jlp!

Absolutely brother! The demons show easily through her fruits..

Amen! Hallelujah! God is the creator of life and it’s only up to Him when it can be taken away. Babies, and all life are precious

@@Apersonintheworldtoday "Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." That's your God speaking through Hosea 13:16

Amen 🙏🙂

It's that new heart he gave you is what opened your eyes

Yes!!! Same here!

She won't, until God shows her mercy.

@@mishkakasalapiy3222 God has shown us all mercy; including her.

She’s a confessed Atheist.. I pray the same thing brother! It is possible because at one time I was an atheist

Even if they abort the baby its not like all the trauma will go away. Might as well use your pain and help others. Who knows that child could grow up to change a lot of people's lives

It was a test She did well

Same but I had a son. My son is a wonderful gift that came from a horrible situation.

Seems like a double down rape bad then the murder bad

May God the father bless her in the name of Jesus Christ amen 🙏.

Amen 🙏🙂

Revelation song!

Amen 🙌🏽❤️

its more than that.. its the act of one exercising their will over your will.. their truth over your truth.. the root of all sin is pride.. and we all want to at times, to exercise our will over the will of others.. the life of a Christian isn't to exercise our will over another but to allow the Holy Spirit to breathe Truth to another and let His will be done. Hope that makes sense..on the flesh level, I AGREE.. but in the Spiritual realm where all Truth lies, this is where it all makes sense to me.

@@KimberlyLBrown Amen sister!❤️🙏

Numbers 31:17-18 "Now therefore, kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman who has known man by lying with him. But all the young girls who have not known man by lying with him keep alive for yourselves." Just because your faith is weak the whole of the word does not sit well with your stomach. Dwell on that. The Lord is fine with killing the children of ones enemies.

@@thedruid1151 that's because numbers 25 curse Came Upon the people because of what the moabites did amongst Israelites they did not want the plague upon them again

That LORD of OT that kills is the devil. JESUS has different directives.

LOL perfect ending. Lord please work on this woman's heart and allow her to reason with others instead of rage. Amen. Thank you for Apologia Studios

Then she said "you're an A***hole" , conceding the point!

Robert Gomez Jr - love it!

Unless it is a case like Andrea Yates where she had severe post partum psychosis and their nutbag of a pastor encouraged them not to use birth control and live in a camper.

@@jeaninepetty4923 I say let's put the Christian God on Trial for crimes against humanity. "Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." Hosea 13:16 KJV

That's sounds like the argument of someone who has never studied law,but studied destroying civil rights

@@stevenkeller452 Would you point to the inconsistency in his argument? I fail to see it. (That is, assuming you considera the embryo/fetus is a human being).

Me too!

I'm sorry to hear that you no longer believe women should be able to chose what happens to their body. Choice is freedom. Understand, pro choice is not pro abortion. I do not believe anyone should have an abortion. I've participated in an abortion of my child and I regret it every day. I regret it because I have two children and I realize I didn't give a life a chance. A pregnancy left alone and barring natural occurring events that can end a pregnancy, the pregnancy will produce a live. The thing is, in a free society, if one is to respect and advocate for the freedom of all, the only option is choice. If one disagrees with everything another believes is true, the only way the two can live together is rule of law and choice.

@@iancampbell1316 Of course, but then, the murderer must be made free to do whatever he pleases. I mean, some of these guys have serious mental issues. It's not their fault, so give them freedom to make the choice to kill. The main point is that abortion is murder, and as long as murder is outlawed in society, abortion must be too.

@@arunparolikkal4674 You may consider abortion murder from your religious moral stand point but abortion is not illegal and legally is not murder. Your argument ends there. We live in a system of laws. The Constitution of the US is the law of the land and the first amendment of the constitution insures freedom of and from religion so no laws can be passed for or against religion. In short, I have the freedom to not believe as you believe. Not acceptable to you? Well in a constitutional democratic republic you can act to change the law. You can run for office yourself. If you don't want to run, you can get together with like minded people, elect like minded people to office who will change the law as long as they are constitutional. We have laws that lay out what murder is. We even have different levels of murder. If a deviant murderous crazy person kills someone, there are law on the books to handle that. I'm curious, lets say the abortion laws are changed and abortion becomes murder, what should the punishment be? A fine? 20 years to life? Death? Who should get punished? The woman? The man? The one who performs the abortion at the man or woman's request? All involved? Will there be an agency established to monitor pregnancies and insure they go to term? Will a woman be required to report a pregnancy. What happens to the woman if she doesn't report the pregnancy? What if a woman has a miscarriage? Will she be subject to investigation after the loss of a wanted child? What will that investigation involve? An intrusive medical examination? Will there be mental health programs for women who are forced to carry a rapist baby to term? Will suicide prevention organizations be funded to handle the increase in depression? Who pays for the inevitable increase in foster care?

@@iancampbell1316 Well, first of all I don't live in america. News flash, the majority of the world's population doesn't. Secondly, this has nothing to do with religion. Abortion is the murder of an unborn human being. And abortion is illegal in so many parts of the world, including India, where I'm from. I'm not saying abortion should be legally equated with murder. I understand that abortions are very often done in situations where the mother is in a very difficult place. I used murder simply as an example of a crime that we all agree should be punished. As to who should get punished, that depends on the case. Sometimes the woman, sometimes the man, sometimes a person who forced the parents to abort their baby. Always the clinic that does the procedure. And while there are special provisions for murders with severe mental issues, any competent criminal psychologist will tell you that crime is usually the product of a disturbed mind. Of course, criminalising abortion isn't easy. Making it legal will go so much smoother. There are so many things that have to be addressed that cannot be possibly be summed up with a comment on RU-vid. But very often it takes a lot of work and figuring out to do a little good. It definitely doesn't need to be a black and white law. For example, in my country, there are provisions that allow women who were raped to have the baby aborted if it is under a certain stage of development.

Amen~! Praying~!

VERY

And thankfully not my neighbor.

In ALL her ways

The way of the trespasser is Hard!

Everyone is unstable without The Lord.

😢

I saw that too - she was trembling the entire time. I have a feeling this is what people on Judgement Day will look like when before the great white throne; shaking with equal parts fear and rage while denouncing their Maker to His face.

maybe so, but note the wording on her sign. Jeffy boy didn't - at any point - DENY that he was in favor of putting women who get abortions on death row. What does that tell you?

@@wylier Sure, but since Jeff is Christian, we have reason to believe that Jeff would give grace, too. It would be wrong to implement that kind of legislation with a death penalty as punishment tomorrow, for example. Kind of like how if we suddenly banned guns in the US, it would take some time to collect the arms from law-abiding citizens, and it would be wrong to throw these citizens in jail for possession while they were in the midst of surrendering their rifles and stuff. I think Jeff is promoting the idea that in a just society, abortion would be recognized as evil as someone unrepentantly killing a three year old. You wouldn't let those kinds of monsters walk around freely, so if abortion was rightfully recognized in our society as the murder of children, women who were pro-abortion would end up with the same sentence as other child-killers. Jeff is fighting for that kind of society, but there's a laundry list of things to do before we as a society can rightly and truly arrive there.

@@toniduval4350 all it would take would be a national statute against abortion. There's not enough support for that to be a likely scenario, tho. Secondly, not all Christians are opposed to the death penalty.

I love jeff, even if i dont agree with everything he believes, he is based in logic. Theses pro abortion liberals are so insane and dont even see how illogical their arguments are.

@@PanzerAce760 'logic' easily applies to the pro-choice side, tho - dont people desire freedom of choice, and bodily autonomy? Certainly the 1973 Supreme Court had that in mind when they made legal abortion the law of the land.

@@wylier and now ?

I would say _The_ Elohim, as the word "elohim" means spiritual being, and doesn't directly translate to God, though the word "God" is used appropriately in the scriptures for the most part, just not the context of when God takes counsel among the "gods" and such, it would be accurate to translate "gods" with a little ‘g’ as spiritual beings, or angelic beings 🤷🏻‍♂️. But you aren't wrong.

​​@@wylier One problem with that, a baby is not part of the mother's autonomy, or body. In fact, their body considers the Child to be an outside source, and if it weren't for the special place that children are within on the inside of the womb, the body would try and kill them. So good job, everything you said was a lie. Revelation 21:8 But the _fearful,_ and _unbelieving,_ and the _abominable,_ and _murderers,_ and _whoremongers,_ and _sorcerers,_ and _idolaters,_ and _all liars,_ shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

She sounds like Mickey mouse

they need to call the men in the white coats to lock her up and throw away the key she has no clue what she's doing or talking about I bet this lady thinks that susan smith was innocent of drowning her kids that's proabaly her hero she probably thinks trump is god

@@staintedcards It's ironic you bring up Smith. I happen to live close to where that happened. I remember it well. She's currently in prison in a place near Greenwood.

Ranger for Jesus true

God give me the strength to forgive this woman and the patience to deal with others like her

Amen Ranger! God bless you my friend!

She is truly unhinged! Incapable of any reason!

Leftist NPCs are all unhinged. The deny God and science.

@@avian1971 just so ignorant to turn this into a political issue. The woman is very uneducated on how to argue her side but Jeff Durbin pushing and leaning on Old Covenant laws is also wrong and shows how mislead he is. The abuse of God's Word here in America of some trying to force people to live by the old written law of Moses is sickening. We are under Grace through the freedom we have in Christ, not the bondage of the law.

@@kennethcadwell2124 so if someone breaks into your home tonight while you are sleeping and has his way with your wife and daughters and looks your son's are you going to say that it's alright, he's "under grace?" Haven't you read what Moses said to the Children of Israel after he reiterated the Law on Mount Pisgah? He called it Good and for Life and a Blessing! Are you suggesting that you have a better standard than what God himself had given us, upon which Jesus, our Lord, expounded?

@@kennethcadwell2124 any scripture to back that up?

@Leo Nidas Her hypocrisy? Absolutely. I was agreeing with Pastor Jeff.

Oh man, that was the funniest part!!! Jeff's comment about how God is just bringing the people there. The way that other brothers in Christ just jumped right in talking with the mormons was just flat-out awesome. God be glorified!!

@@LochFred Amen all the glory is and belongs to our God :)

Yes she is hurt

Demon possessed

Who knows she may be trying to atone for her own abortion. Just a thought

Pray for her. She needs to repent.

Jesus told his disciples, the ones who were fishermen, "Follow me and I will make you fishers of men." I wonder what he actually meant by that. A fish is food. If you're fishing for men, is He stating, don't bother to work; I'll show you how to make a living without the need to labor? You don't need to worry about food when everyone thinks your a god send. Is that Christ true message? Live the easy life of a tv evangelist? He died on the cross so Peter Popoff and Joel Osteen could make millions?

@@algol291 that simply means he was using their type of work as an analogy to the apologists they would become, gathering people for him through his own empowering and guidance (follow me), by using something they could relate with and understand. No one is guaranteed an easy life because of that and people are even encouraged to work so that they don't become a burden to others and so they can help others in difficult situations as a community.

@algol291 Joel Osteen will be wishing he had repented when he's judged for his prosperity preaching, amassing riches while misleading his flock. Easy life? I challenge you to live so 'easily.' Jesus' directive was to basically preach the gospel and accumulate nothing for yourself. This is plainly read in Luke 10 vv3-5, but I encourage you to read further: 3"Go your way; behold, I send you out as lambs among wolves. 4Carry neither money bag, knapsack, nor sandals; and greet no one along the road. 5But whatever house you enter, first say, 'Peace to this house.'"

@Leo Nidas "Samaria has become guilty, for she has rebelled against her God. They shall fall by the sword, their infants shall be dashed to pieces, and their pregnant women shall be ripped open." Hosea 14:1 That is you gods commands.

donotcompromise ,what does that mean, thanks, not sure what it mean!

No what is wrong is calling somebody evil just because they have a different point of view. The woman should have educated herself better to defend her stance before protesting. However because she didn't she was made to look foolish. However Jeff Durbin leaning on the Old Covenant law and support of the death penalty is also wrong. Jesus taught we are under a New Covenant that we are to show Mercy, Forgiveness, and Love to All people even our enemies. People seem to like to overlook when Jesus addressed "An eye for an eye" which was an Old Covenant law He said, BUT I TELL YOU."

Lol, she probably never even went to law school. She probably just said that to sound smart

Personally I disagree with what Jeff said about the father choking a man who was r*ping his child to death. The Bible says that a man that does not protect his family is worse than an infidel. And if you are a parent and you found out your child was being r*ped, what would you do? You would go mama/papa bear, wouldn't you? And that would be justified imo. I don't think you should TRY to kill them, but if it happens, it happens. Plus sometimes you have to do what you have to to hold them in place so they don't get away, and if that means something like choking, then so be it. Parents have every right to fight for their children

Ricardo Valls i died at that part😂😂😂👏

Do you need help up! That was awesome

Apparently she missed the bit about praying as a self-aggrandizing virtue signal is bad. Must be a corrupted bit of the means of communication of a perfect being.

Bro I died when I saw that I was like lol perfect timings😂😂😂😂

This same verse should be applied to Jeff Durbin as he leans on the Old Covenant law which scripture teaches that anybody teaching the written law is required to be kept are false brethren.

Amen. Proverbs 16:2- All the ways of a man are clean in his own eyes; but the LORD weigheth the spirits.

@@kennethcadwell2124 No it cant. Not the same at all.

@@kokonuttsarefun6472 yes it is because those who lean on the law as required to be kept are doing the same thing. They think their way is right when it's actually a false gospel they are walking by. Just see the Apostle Paul in Galatians. He calls those preaching and holding the law over others heads false brethren teaching another gospel.

Lol true

Craig Bullock I couldn’t help but laugh when she got down and prayed to passive Jesus and he couldn’t raise her from her knees lol

Cause he knows karate.

Carson Williams it’s something we all believers should strive for

I dont know that punishing the women that abort their child would be productive. From what I have seen the act is punishment enough for most. I have a sister in law who struggles with the guilt to this day over something she did 30 years ago. I hate abortion. There is no reason for abortion. Though this act maybe best left between God and the woman.

Verbal Judo, knowledge of the Word of God, and most importantly the grace of God, that's how.

Staying calm and collective is a key.

Dawn Miller - "the Jesus you're praying to doesn't exist" lol. Perfect response.

Bruh I died

Also she isn't. At best, she is praying as a form of protest, actimg as if she is talking to God whrn she is actually looking ti be seen as holy

I was looking for this 😂😂😂

Typical Libtard -- no valid argument, only nonsense combined with censorship of the other side.

@@1godonlyone119 "Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." Hosea 13:16 KJV

@@kimobrien. And?

Hahah

Amen

Amen

It has. @@susan67868

You cannot cast a spirit out of someone who doesn't want to have the spirit cast out. Just the same as you cannot force someone to be saved and accept Jesus as their savior.

@@osowers6755 Why not? Paul did it with the Slave girl. She's not in her right mind and being ruled by a principality...likely willingly..so come at it in the spiritual as well as in truth. That's all I'm saying.

Gotta respect the patience of this pastor though, this is totally God working this way

What pearls as Jeff Durbin in his response was spewing Old Covenant law and support of the death penalty which is false. We are not under the Old Covenant law, and Jesus addressed the eye for an eye showing we are not to live by that anymore. Punishment and condemnation is not for us to hand out and judge others by.

You can only be under New Covenant law if you are saved

@@Freyaphoenix793 there is no such thing as New Covenant law..... You are either under law or Grace.... There is no teaching of being under both law and Grace in God's Word. Your either free in Christ or under bondage still if you adhere to the law Now do we as Christians have a set of morals we are to live by ??? Yes but those morals we live by are not to be shown only to other believers. We are to show those morals to everybody.........

@@kennethcadwell2124 if you are not saved, grace does not apply. That was the point I was making. They don't literally want women killed, they are making it a point that it is something that does not please God, it is murder and sin. We all deserve the death penalty because the wages of sin is death and all have fallen short of the glory of God. But God is rich in mercy and mighty to save. To point out sin is to point out a need for a savior

Leo Nidas who is?

Sorry but there was no mention of jesus in exodus God's finger not Jesus Please read exodus again

@@user-fb2jb3gz1d John 1 KIng James Bible 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 *All things* were made by him; and without him was *not* any thing made that was *made* - The 10 Commandments were *made* , the finger of GOD could be made be either Father or Jesus, but yes it was made by the Father , but Jesus is the Word, and He is the Law, " Aramaic Bible John 8:58 Yeshua said to them: “Timeless truth I speak to you: Before Abraham would exist, I AM THE LIVING GOD

@@abashedsanctimony154 i see your point of view

@@abashedsanctimony154 but there is a distinction between the Father and Son

Because you'll get rekt

@Pê Gê "Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up." Do you remember reading that?

@Pê Gê Why? Are you afraid of a red flag and picture of a hammer and cycle? It's in Hosea 13:16 KJV Also evilbible.com

@Pê Gê Its the flag of the Soviet Union.

@Pê Gê Yes, I support communism. Okay?

Abel Zapata 😨

Not counting the ones He ordered murdered to prove a point to Pharaoh, of course.

If she went to law school then I’m Harry Potter

She means a thief can steal from everyone else except her. I feel if a person stole from her they’d be put in prison. Is this a symptom of narcissism? Maybe why she doesn’t care about the unborn? 🤔🤨

Yep. Woman does research on the spot to know what "fetus" means in english. Reads that it means "a developing human." Pastor Jeff: "A developing what?" Woman: "Shut up" smh... Even when the truth is shown to her (about something so simple and insignificant as the meaning of a word she uses to try to dehumanize what is human), she wants to close her ears to it.

I think it's just so AWESOME to see how natural it is for Apologia to just go after that opportunity. This is a true, thriving church.

What kind of Christian mocks another Christian church. Huh?

Distraction Eer what other Christian church are we talking about? Unless you’re referring to the Mormons? They are not a Christian church

Pray for Christianity because its end is near. Can't wait for the oldest CULT in history to disappear.

SsGGEE Animism? Ancestor worship? If you restrict it to organised religion, it’s probably Hinduism.

I have never heard it put that way. Not very often, anyway.

She's not entitled to her free speech?

@@thedevilsadvocate5210 Non-sequitur argument.... I never mentioned free speech had I. But now im forced to rebut it? She is a poor lost soul, and she is entitled to free speech.... Does that cover your point?

I didn’t know a cow could be holy hahaha

She realized as soon as she said HUMAN she lost the argument and went to that level throwing insults. When they start throwing insults you know you won...lol

That’s pretty much how the left do their thing, they yell without stating facts and if they feel offended in ANY way they’ll start cursing at you, it’s really sad.

Critical Conviction god is a joke

Pro Choice made before sleeping together.

It should be retitled, "False teacher verses uneducated protestor."

@@kennethcadwell2124 how is he a false teacher, Ken?

@@kennethcadwell2124 also, if she were educated, would that justify the position of her protest?

@@mercuryRed347 her position was that women who have abortions shouldn't be punished. And to that yes she is correct because neither God nor our laws of the land are to force others to live by His way.

@@mercuryRed347 by leaning on the Old Covenant written law. That is false teaching as we are not under that covenant.