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I signed up. I know a gal who aborted her baby bc the baby had spinabifada. I also know a girl who had it who went to school, grew up, got married, had kids, etc . This gal posts mournful posts about loosing her baby. I love her. So I'd never say anything to her. But this is horrific.

Why don't you bring up the numerous couples waiting to adopt babies in the States?

*Pro murder

I know this is an old video, but…The most commonly used argument is the it affects low income families the most, this is not tru. Most abortions are done by woman in the middle class. And 40% of the woman who have abortions have had 2 or more.

@@TomBg124 Demographics of abortion A 2014 survey of 8,380 U.S. women who had abortions shows how their characteristics compare to the general population of U.S. women ages 15 to 44. Age group Under 20 11.9% 20 to 24 33.6% 25 to 29 26.5% 30 to 34 15.9% 35 to 39 9.1% 40 or older 3.1% Race/ethnicity White 38.7% Black 27.6% Hispanic 24.8% Asian/Pacific Islander 5.5% Other 3.4% Educational attainment No high school diploma 8.9% High school graduate/GED 27.0% Some college/associate degree 40.9% College graduate 23.1% Number of prior births 0 40.7% 1 26.2% 2 or more 33.1% Religious affiliation Mainline Protestant 17.2% Evangelical Protestant 12.8% Roman Catholic 23.7% Other 8.2% None American women have abortions with similar frequency to women living in other developed nations. The bulk of abortion patients are in their 20s. Women of all races and ethnicities choose abortion. In 2014, 39 percent of abortion patients were white, 28 percent were black and 25 percent were Latina. Similarly, women of all religious affiliations choose to end their pregnancies. Most of these women understand what it means to parent a child. More than half of abortion patients in 2014 were already mothers. Poor women account for the majority of abortion patients. Fifty-three percent of women pay out-of-pocket for their abortion. The rest use private or state-funded insurance plans. Women choose abortion for multiple reasons. The most common reason cited is that pregnancy would interfere with education, work or ability to care of dependents. Financial stress also plays a major role in women’s decision making. Seventy-three percent of women reported that they could not afford a baby at the time. Nearly half cited relationship difficulties or wanting to avoid single motherhood. More than a third of women felt their families were complete.

Well said , these College students have been Indoctrinated to the point they are Stupid Evil .

Ma'am you're a Trooper!!! Kuddos to you on being such a strong, resilient person!! All the best!

Amen. I'm happy that you, your husband and your kids are alive and thriving. Remember... God always wants life and love for you whereas the devil always wants death and despair for you. Good luck and may God bless your family.

😭❤️🙏🏻

You are a beautiful soul; im so happy you got to live!

True that.

@@kaitlee100 ♥️🤗

@@kaitlee100 Until about a yr ago I was a brainwashed pro choicer too and not only did I support abortion but I also participated in them - my own baby at 9 weeks and I also supported and encouraged my sister yrs ago to get a abortion, now when I ask her if she regrets having that abortion she said no...........Yes total denial.

I'm pro choice, and this pastor was a complete biased idiot

Xarai but murder is fine? He is 100% correct! He follows Gods laws

It's interesting how those who resist the idea of God want to play God themselves.

@@vanessale5610 Well said.

Its the same anti christ jezebel spirit " i dont have to deal with this! Im valuable and me me me!"

Right by that logic none of us would be here today.

The pro-choice arguments have no interest in the subjective or the fictional. The arguments are firmly grounded in science and compassion. The science is recognizing that a first trimester human is, in fact, a nascent, non-sentient, non-viable organism existing, entirely dependent, within a woman's body. Compassion compels us to want the apogee of well-being for every woman, today and tomorrow. Compassion demands that we respect every woman's right to own her body and decide her destiny.

Go for it, dude! God bless you.

That's awesome!! See as much as people say that Christians hate, Pastor Jeff shows a wonderful example of how it truly isn't hate. A firm mind on the value of morale excellence, and the strength to stand on those values. This is what gives life to any society. Stay bless friend.

Glad to hear! The only way to be on the ride side of things is to humble ourselves..May God be with you towards the truth!

Don't worry about being on the right side of History. Get right with Jesus Christ dude. Just changing wicked views won't save you. I'd encourage you to CONTINUALLY seek God as well as making Jesus Christ your Lord and Savior! Pray and accept Him into you heart. Follow Him,learn of Him,serve Him. What was it Peter said? " Repent, and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of sins, and you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit..." Act 2: 38

@@barbaraGobert31 The comment about being on the right side was confirmed at the end of bass daddy's comment. It is on the right side both spiritually and socially. It would seem he had already made the choice to follow Christ by that statement.

Yah, my mom always talks about how the pro aborts will have that weighing on their conscience and they'll genuinely think about God can change their hearts.

Then it didn’t grow because seeds need water and light to prosper

Fernweh Central Oregon Bible says one plants seeds, another waters it and God makes it grow... Dont discount God’s power to work on anyone He chooses to work on

Amen. "It's not important who does the planting, or who does the watering. The important thing is that God makes the seed grow." 1 Cor 3:7

Yes Amen to that! 🙌💛

That is exactly what sex education should be about. They should also tell the teens how an abortion is performed, step by step and with real pictures.

BuT whAt aBt RaPE aND INcEST

No no no! you cant hold people accountable for their actions or ask them to control themselves!

They do NOT wanna hear that. Why, that’s too obvious, makes too much sense & it would label them @ fault, they’d be responsible for their own actions. But as we are seeing again & again, especially now, is that this unimaginable cruelty, isn’t exclusive it’s OWED them. AND it’s everyone else’s fault. WE didn’t offer enough solutions. The entitlement runs way deep here.

Amen

Thanks for Sharing your story Laura. Amazing.

I think you only have one problem. The problem is that you are too beautiful.

I think a true example of the devil trying to manipulate the situation, so that someone that will have a great impact for the kingdom of God isn’t born.

Powerful testimony. Praise the Lord.

I want to understand Jeff's arguments. Does anyone have any books or video explaining in detail?

yeah, I call BS on that one. People have known for centuries where babies come from.

Butt stuff

They are projecting elitism. They truly believe low income, colored people don’t know what the consequences of sex are.

Exactly.

Actually you would be surprised at the ignorance of some of these kids. They don’t know that conception is when a sperm and egg unite. Does anyone recall the ridiculous posters they carry that will say stuff like “if abortion is murder then oral sex is cannibalism.”🙄 They think just the sperm alone makes the baby. Where does this ignorance come from?

This so much. I should be able to do whatever I want, Damn the consequences... That's the mentality.

@Templar yeah I wouldnt agree with that at all, my comment was not meant to demean all women.

Open your Bible and read genesis.

Many women use birth control, tho.

Sex has become merely an transaction and that’s the start of the problem.

Just wanna say, as someone who was adopted, went through the foster system, and was intensely physically abused, it is nice to see people saying what you’re saying and not “foster kids suffer therefore we should abort”. That argument is the quickest one to get under my skin. Thank you.

People get treated badly therefore kill them? Lol that's the opposite of what to do like satanist it's the opposite of the truth .

What it forms down to is, isnt it better that a child has the chance to crawl their way out of the depths and end up building a great life with God than to never have the chance at all? Overcoming adversity is a beutiful thing.

Every child deserves a chance at life regardless of who they grow up to be…

Poverty, hard times, finances, convienance, or just a simple desire to kill, have never been actual justifications to kill, ever. Just because I want to kill is not a justification to actually kill someone, anyone, even criminals, let alone innocent little boys and girls. We can only use lethal force, and just the force necessary to stop the iminent and unavoidable danger of death or grave bodily harm. We can't just execute someone simply because we want them dead. When u remove the excuse to avoid responsibility, there r no more excuses for abortion. That alone is quite telling. It lets us know that these r all just excuses to avoid responsibility and behave wrecklessly, all at the cost of an innocent boy or girl's life.

You couldn't have said that any better! You're so right! They want to enjoy sin without the consequences

It's beyond gross, its absolutely abominable. But yeah.

but people's sexual activity can't be dictated by others, especially in a world where many people are delaying marriage - and sometimes forgoing it altogether.

@@wylier Then don't expect "others" to perform your abortion... Do it yourself, and don't demand that my tax money pay for it...

Umm.. it’s 2022 you telling me people don’t know that they can get pregnant if they have s3x?🤨

So what Durbin says is basically All Life is to be preserved no matter the form (foetuses are babies therefore abortion is equivalent to killing an infant). There is an exception to this rule (which already contradicts his rule of „all murder is immoral“), if a human has commited an evil act, it is ok to kill him. comminting an act (such as rape) qualifies a human to be in a different „category“ of human. In a situation where the child is threatening the life of the mother if she doesn‘t abort he has to chose which life to save (because deciding not to abort is equal to chosing to kill the mother) If you follow this, then logically it follows that you cannot defend yourself with deadly force (since that is murdering a human, it doesn‘t matter the situation). Therefore he either breakd his logic OR must value the life of a woman less than that of an (in his word) unborn child. If he goes this route, he is actually using the same argument as pro-choice proponents, which is: „murder“/ending a human life is ok in circumstances where it serves a greater good e.g: when a foetus endangers the mothers life when rapists deserve desth penalty when you defend yourself with deadly force etc. To sum up there are two problems here: he is inconsistant with the maxim of „no human life is to be murdered“ he seems to value a female life less than that, which i think most people disagree with. Basically what durbin gets wrong is that he claims a (deontological) maxime of „in any possible realm, there shall not be a case of murdering a human life“ because murder is inherently immoral (based on his that‘s pretty Kantian and had one problem: the maxim cannot be broken, so it doesn‘t matter e.g. the „value“ of a human life since all humans shall not be murdered. Therefore claiming that it is ok to have death penalty invalidates his maxim logically. It is the classical problem of deontology

Yes he is outstanding, brilliant apologist, this takes time and practice.

@@zurrischnurre519 except there is not 1 situation where a baby needed to be killed to save the mother. that makes no sense. are you talking about double effect principle? that's not abortion.

efklelfkw efnw there is no contradiction. If you murder you should be put to death. You should not kill innocent babies.

You are right. I lost patience with those women. The mental gymnastics they were playing were ridiculous. The pastor having that patience has the great benefit in convincing someone that he really does care for them.

Let's hope so. If only one out of the 3 it would be better than none.

From my experience, I figure they forgot it all within seconds.

I want to understand Jeff's arguments. Does anyone have any books or video explaining in detail?

I want to understand Jeff's arguments with atheists and abortionists. Does anyone have any books or video explaining in detail?

@@user-me1tk9yx2l Its called presuppositional Christian apologetics, Greg Bahnsen has a book that Jeff said he had his teeth kicked in by reading. Frank Turek is a good with this as well.

Doctors are sorcerers :: pharmakeia

Same thing happened to several of my friends when they were pregnant. All carried to term. 3 graduated top of their class None of the children had down syndrome. The tests are not 100% accurate. Even if someone has down syndrome.......God makes no mistakes!

Abashed Sanctuary if

They (the scientists and doctors) check the baby for certain genetical merkers. However, just because they find those merkers, it doesnt mean the baby will have down syndrome. It just means its got a higher chance to have it. That being said, even though Im not an expert, I do wonder if the method of investigating those genetical markers shouldnt need more improvement.................

@@jonson856 we do need improvements, the whole reason the doctor called us in to give us this info was to suggest an abortion

That's awesome!!!!!

That's the truth

Whoa awesome way to put it, Amen!!!!!!!!

Amen, beautiful statement, God bless you and ur 👪 always, 😍 👵 grandma Victoria

Good point ma’am!🕊

Yeah, there's NO way

In my city there's a pharmacy that doesn't sell any type of contraceptive method, neither condoms nor pills, nothing, because the son of the owners is a Catholic priest, but it is the only pharmacy that has this rare policy

@@anybrzla3149 Wow! A Catholic priest that believes in something that's biblical. That's pretty cool. Oops. What am I talking about? All Catholic priests believe in some things that are biblical. They just all hold to a lot of humanistic traditions as well that are not biblical.

Lol

Walmart literally sells vibrators. They definitely have condoms

Thank you for sharing!! Are you close with your mother? How is she doing? Blessings

Wow that amazzfgujru

God bless you, mama!

Oh Jesus bless you C! You're beautiful my sister in Christ

Amen, littleness C. Thank God your mum didn't listen. God is GREAT

what are they 'guilty' of, tho? "Switching up the argument" is something that Jeff did, too. The exact point is when one of the women directly asked him if a rape victim should be forced to bear the child in the case of pregnancy. He didnt admit that his answer was, in this case, 'yes'. He used biased language to hide the fact that he does believe this. You might also like to know that Jeff actually thinks that women who terminate pregnancies should be put on death row. Not too many others believe that, tho.

Amen!

normally the pro-choicers are yelling at Jeff and calling him names. Kudos to those women they are full of love and grace just sadly misplaced in regards to the unborn

@@katherinepoindexter4380 full of Love and Grace!? Hmmmm.. Well, they were certainly Created in the Image of GOD!!) Let's pray for their Salvation, that they {individually, apart from their group think and united rebellion} may Actually be filled with The SPIRIT and not just reflecting the Image of GOD that they are suppressing. May GOD Bless You, and Keep You, In The HOLY CHRIST.

@@Chirhopher I agree. I should have added to my original comment is that any love, any mercy, any grace comes only from God in Christ. Any love that people have is the reflection of God's grace and mercy. Thank you for your comment. God bless you back and may He keep you in His mercy and grace forever-Amen

@@katherinepoindexter4380 spoken like a calvinist :)

she didnt have a choice back then. cant be thankful XD it was required

Me too. God bless you!

@@Xarai everyone did have that choice lol, but they usually did illegal abortions. Thankfully my mother wanted my sister and me lol

Me too she gave me up for adoption, and I was adopted by the greatest set of parents that God has blessed me with

@@Xarai ?

I would disagree. I have watched many of his videos and on most subjects Jeff cannot truly take on another person's perspective, he just states his understanding of there perspective without changing when they correct him. He assumes they just don't realize there point of view is the way he understands it and tells them that, which is considered gaslighting. Gaslighting is a form of manipulation. All that said, I think he does a lot less of that in this video and when he does do it I am sure he does not realize it is manipulative. But that doesn't change the fact that it is.

@@kaitlynrains5606 That's not true. He uses analogies to stretch their views to broader applications. When people "correct" him, they're usually avoiding his broader point.

@@kaitlynrains5606 If your perception of reality is distorted and twisted, someone trying to show you a new way of looking at reality is not gaslighting, it is simply someone trying to help you understand something that you are struggling with. When you use the term gaslighting in this context, it degrades the term. Gaslighting is when someone tries to convince you that you are crazy, and is used to manipulate and control, not when there is a difference on world view and you are trying to convince someone to see things differently. How are we supposed to have healthy debates when people are so afraid of being Gaslit? Are you sure that you want debate, and not just push your way through? Kind of sounds like you are trying to gaslight by not letting other opinions be expressed and heard, and saying they are the ones gaslighting. 🤔

Yeah but at the same time Christians and conservatives just keep losing decade after decade because we keep playing nice. Christians need to step it up and be more aggressive.

@@kaitlynrains5606 yep. Jeff is one of the most arrogant and condescending pastors I’ve ever seen. White privilege to the extreme.

I agree that these girls at least did not acted like the typical hyenas pro abortion. And Pray God that the seed grow fast 🙏.

That's true. At least he debunked some myths about christianity (That men have no responsability within christianity, that women are not equally as valuable as men, that christians don't care about what happens to the babies after they are born).

Amen, and millions more across the nations. That we are a nation of life in every way.

It’s a shame your omnipotent god can’t change their minds....🤔

@@jlspl150 Its their free will choice.

Very true its a typical Romans 1 situation "suppressing the truth in unrighteousness".

If any of them are like me, then there is hope. When someone comes with the opposite opinion than what I have, I fight back. However, after the conversation, I still think about what they said and really think about it in regards to the info I have. I have changed my position on different things lots of times and all except one was afterwards and not during the conversation.

fresnoredemption this is true. Pastor Jeff is planting seeds. These girls may have a change of heart 1 day, or 1 month, or 1 year, or 20 years later. I was not always on Christ’s side and I didn’t change my mind immediately. It takes time (Lord willing) and the work of the Spirit.

I feel like they’re scared to accept the truth..

It's not him they are fighting... It is YEARS of conditioning. The concept of what is developing inside another human being is foreign to them. The developing baby has been dehumanized through perverted education. Children are being conditioned to think of the baby as property.

That’s interesting too that you say Don’t give up, because that’s what we do when we abort a child

Jeff does not really understand this issue inside out, he just understand the part everyone talks about. The fact of the matter is that even these girls and other pro-choice people also do not understand this issue correctly. So, there is ignorance on both sides in most discussions on this topic.

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No, they sounded childish and air headed. So much "like", so much "I feel", so much "give me welfare or I'll kill the child".

@@adamwalker2377 yes but did you also realized that they asked multiple times what for solution do we have for those who decide no abortion ?? I am against abortion but BEFORE i walk around convincing people not to go thru with it we need a solution for them also. Cause that kid will have a miserable life with uneducated parents or unloving parents. It is very easy to show people how bad that is and that they are committing a sin, and then we turn away leave them deal with the propblem after. We need solutions first to really help those woman

@@Scriptures-say we owe nothing to those women. That's like saying "Fine, if you don't want me buying a prostitute, you owe me a wife."

@@adamwalker2377 I get what ur saying but the process of coming to a realization can be slow, give it time , the talk they had was marvelous, the seed was implanted, patience is key, people dont change one day to another, they'll go home thinking about it all night, wish u best stay safe👍

They would lose, they are using the system to get their way. So cheating in essence

Can you like if like I like and then like the form of like so... like I can't like to like for the like like like like like!!!!! BOOOM

Christians do plenty of mental gymnastics as well. Also you should read what Numbers 5:19-22, 27-28. Those verses literally talk about inducing miscarriages to verify whether or not women had not been unfaithful to their husbands.

Yes! My son was diagnosed with an eating disorder at 13 months of age. Regardless of income, you could make 6 figures a year, my state provides early intervention that sends a licensed therapist to my home to provide services. When he would be preschool aged he would have free access to an early intervention preschool with both disabled and regularly developing students. Then when those kids are school aged, there at programs for them within the school system. We decided to go a different route through a therapy center that was funded my local churches just due to personal preference and at 25 months his eating disorder is under control and he is eating normally, but we were offered free services. This is something I have been able to locate in every state. Maybe some don't have in home intervention, but if they need it, there is a way.

there is? why didnt you name them? and why does someone HAVE to have a fuckign baby? because you want teenagers to become poor lower class citizens with no education or a happy future? nope just working shitty jobs for shitty wages with a shitty family and a shitty life. congrats you are as immoral as your bible

Xarai I was a single mother at 21. Hadn’t completed college yet. The local health department in every state offers subsided food programs, medical programs, child care programs, and housing programs. I know because I used them. 12 years later and I’m married with two more children. No longer in poverty because I worked my way out. Women are more powerful than you’re giving them credit for. Becoming a mother DOESNT make us weak it actually makes us stronger ;)

@@Xarai "working shitty jobs for shitty wages with a shitty family and a shitty life..." A shitty family??! A shitty life?? Wtf is wrong with you? Poor ppl''s families are shitty are they? Their lives are shitty? You just betrayed what contempt you actually have for poor people. But yeah, you're the caring one right? What a disgusting way to speak about ppl.

There are 1 programs, do not have sex...as a man I use my right hand, as a woman use a dildo or your finger...needs meet no child involved

Yes, but that alone is not an argument for outlawing abortion.

@@wylier actually abortion is not illegal in majority of states, so I’m not sure what you are talking about? If in fact you want autonomy over your own body and feel pregnancy would be a nuisance , it seems self-evident that the most intelligible options would be to make the responsible decision & utilize the readily available (& numerous) inexpensive birth control options available prior to conception - thus showing far greater intelligence and sensitivity!

@@alexkruse5284 that is a strong argument, but birth control is in fact widely available, and widely practiced. However, birth control can actually fail from time to time. It's not as 100 percent foolproof as you imply.

@@wylier planned parenthood is still up and running and offers many affordable options, that are cheaper than abortion - unless you are suggesting that is a less expensive route? !? Also many pharmacies and offer the morning after pill WITHOUT a prescription -and it is far less than the cost of an abortion (at that point conception might not have even happened ) -but if you are concerned that your birth control failed - it’s another option far less traumatizing than abortion! Look @ Wylie, let’s be honest there’s many ways to not get pregnant. Sure accidents happen but for most people if you don’t want to get pregnant you make sure you won’t get pregnant! Like Pastor Durban says only 2% of abortions are for necessary medical interventions and rape so the rest are... ??? They figured an abortion was cheaper ... than a condom? A free morning after pill? Spermicide? Diaphragm? Birth control pills?

​@@wylier If you know that birth control can fail and are just going to immediately use that as an excuse, then you should do the responsible intelligent thing and just not have penis-in-vagina sex if you don’t want a child. If you really think that being pregnant and having a child would ruin your life, then a few fleeting minutes of physical pleasure certainly isn’t worth the risk. Abstinence is free and 100% effective. There’s no need for lame excuses or abortion.

They are far too self centered to care about another life.

Even if your life hasn’t been wonderful, you still deserve to have one

Same. A lady I know did take the test and was strongly encouraged by her practitioner to terminate her pregnancy due to her results indicating Down syndrome. she chose not to terminate and her baby boy was born normal, healthy and without down syndrome. When I heard that story I knew I’d never take that test. I’d hate to spend my whole pregnancy worried about an outcome that may not be accurate. God bless ladies.

Same here, we said nope. Has God ever created anything that wasn't perfect? Nope.

In high school in yr 9 the sex ed teacher was pregnant and she said to us students in the class, she had the test done (was was in her mid 30s) and she was waiting for the results to come back and if positive she was going to have a abortion. I don't think the test was positive b/c she had the baby, lucky for him.

I tested for abnormalities in all of my children. Not so I could kill them, but so I could prepare to care for them as best I could. I wanted to know in advance if my child would need special care or life saving surgeries or therapies.I wanted to do my research to find the appropriate doctors and specialists and have a team ready to help my child as soon as they arrived.

@@saragrace1258 Same, after I had my son doctors found two little holes in his heart which they didn't pick up until after his birth (the doctor heard he had a murmur) thank god he didn't need surgery, my son was healthy compared to some of those babies, but all babies are worth it.

Jesus Saves , If a rapist got any of these women, I'd say these beasts got lucky anyone even touched them..

So what Durbin says is basically All Life is to be preserved no matter the form (foetuses are babies therefore abortion is equivalent to killing an infant). There is an exception to this rule (which already contradicts his rule of „all murder is immoral“), if a human has commited an evil act, it is ok to kill him. comminting an act (such as rape) qualifies a human to be in a different „category“ of human. In a situation where the child is threatening the life of the mother if she doesn‘t abort he has to chose which life to save (because deciding not to abort is equal to chosing to kill the mother) If you follow this, then logically it follows that you cannot defend yourself with deadly force (since that is murdering a human, it doesn‘t matter the situation). Therefore he either breakd his logic OR must value the life of a woman less than that of an (in his word) unborn child. If he goes this route, he is actually using the same argument as pro-choice proponents, which is: „murder“/ending a human life is ok in circumstances where it serves a greater good e.g: when a foetus endangers the mothers life when rapists deserve desth penalty when you defend yourself with deadly force etc. To sum up there are two problems here: he is inconsistant with the maxim of „no human life is to be murdered“ he seems to value a female life less than that, which i think most people disagree with. Basically what durbin gets wrong is that he claims a (deontological) maxime of „in any possible realm, there shall not be a case of murdering a human life“ because murder is inherently immoral (based on his that‘s pretty Kantian and had one problem: the maxim cannot be broken, so it doesn‘t matter e.g. the „value“ of a human life since all humans shall not be murdered. Therefore claiming that it is ok to have death penalty invalidates his maxim logically. It is the classical problem of deontology

@@zurrischnurre519 efklelfkw efnw Let he who has no sin cast the first stone... It's in the Bible John 8:7 Sin is wrong small or big..Can't kill someone because they sinned. Obviously for to trust God and His goodness and GRACE, you got to have testimony, that's when you have to put aside your human understanding and let His will in your life and have ur faith in him tested... Then u will see He is good for He will never fail his word 2timothy 2:12

@@zurrischnurre519 you're overthinking it. One is a form of justice and another isn't. Our laws are logical and pretty easy to understand. Another example is protecting the innocent in war. He answered what he believes in the the life-threatening case of birth, too, and it is logically consistent. Murder and killing are two different things. Sacrifice is another idea, as well.

@@Tyasiaaaa Amen, Sister. I'm glad you had a change of heart.

@Kyla Morales Amen!

Oh, well if God just takes them then I guess I don't feel so bad aborting them! I have just become pro-choice thank you very much!

After watching perhaps 20-30 hours of Jeff’s arguments, lectures and debates online over the last couple of years, I’ve found his positions to be almost universally unreasonable and intellectually bankrupt. He’s certainly charismatic and engages with a level of civility I think we should all applaud, and his right and freedom to speak his mind is something we should all champion. The enemies of free speech and free expression are enemies of all of us-religious or otherwise, pro-choice or prohibitionist.

@@mookiewilson4166 if your conclusion from this video alone is that Jeff is "universally unreasonable and intellectually bankrupt" then you need to watch again. Every point that he introduces is so morally based in truth that there is no response to it except deflection. Every human being is of the same ultimate value from the moment of conception. No one human can have the decision over another human's chance to live. These things are self evident in our souls because the Law of God is written on our hearts.

@@mookiewilson4166 any evidence that his views are unreasonable? I'm not ruling out the possibility that this is true, but I'd like to see for myself. Everything I've seen seems reasonable. So... examples?

It happens all the time!

It happened to me. He's now 18 and in college, thank God!

And if her baby was born with defects, she would probably still love it.

God is saying to these doctors that cannot even get Toyota Corona Virus right. Your not God you don’t know and any mechanism you try to use to obtain a future reading is rubbish and that is true on so many levels, especially on there lockdowns. No economic or financial assistance in anyway just destroy your place of work, business and home. Then tell you it was for your life and health. The problem with these Doctors they don’t have wisdom of God they put there entire faith into that system that when it is wrong by a country mile. Their answer is even worse, it just happened move on. Statistically we got some right. God is 100% and to why his standard of Holiness, Righteousness and Salvation is 100%. I’d rather have my faith in Lord Jesus Christ then in that rubbish. A person of wisdom would not ignore the test a doctor provides, but he won’t rely on it completely. He or She will use the Wisdom to use all different sources before coming to a conclusion like that. To why I argue these medical doctors are nothing more than glorified scientists doing tests on us to see what works or what doesn’t.

Happened to my coworker

Yes, there was a lot of deflection on tough questions, and you noticed that one Pastor Jeff would hold them to something, they will just try to say we believe what we believe and you believe what you believe.

That's S.O.P. it's like windows 98 and the blue screen of death

Lol me too, I stayed up till 7am two days ago watching them

Why does criticism = hatred? Maybe people can simply disagree with him and remain good people.

@@vilicus77 Agreeable point. Have you seen some of the hit pieces out? I have. Definitely haters. But you do make a good point.

@@ptrd Ya, people who blast nonsense online because they have a veil of anonymity are ruining the intellectual fun of the internet. But it happens on all sides; in political conversations and religious ones--no side is immune to it's worst elements. Personally, I am not a theist, and I always receive vitriol form Christians who just want to preach. Atheist do it too. I enjoy it when I have a conversation with a thinker who disagrees with me and can maintain civility and honesty.

@@vilicus77 True, and along the same lines as your point; anonymity doesn't = nonsense and vitriol. I think it's absolutely okay for commentors wanting to keep their privacy.

@@ptrd I totally agree. I use my real name, but abbreviate with my first initial. In your experience, do you see as much negativity coming from people using, what appears to be, their real name? I know it's anecdotal, just curious.

It's the Holy spirit in him :) Jesus Christ died for our sins and whoever believes that is born again: He is born from the spirit. The spirit of Jesus starts to live and grow in him or her.

I honestly didn't feel any part in the conversation where it was super heated. Kudos to the ladies too actually.

jay Yes

holy spirit doesnt exist lol

Exactly what I was thinking.

At least they have the respect to discuss this, unlike most.

Adderall or cocaine is my guess.

Some people talk fast naturally

@@stjohnssoup Ben Shapiro comes to mind...

thats the millenial reprogrammed computer brain. most of them talk fast.

"And like, yeah and I think and like, grey areas and like."

The middle girl's the most intelligent & honest, she's just unwilling to submit herself to higher law. That is the rebellious antiChrist spirit of "feminism" at work.

I mean it's fair to respond to a question with a question. There isn't anything wrong with that really. Espically when asking for clarification or when trying to get someone to think.

@@kurimsonkitsune4408 There isn't a problem with a question, but the questions she asked were trying to twist his argument, like "so you think rape and incest is ok?"

Yes Amen the babies body is the temple also or does babies bodies not count

Yes it is but you must be born again for your body to be the Temple of God and that is only possible by believing in Jesus Christ and repent from you Sin but a baby cant do that cause it doesnt have the Knowledge of Sin

That’s only for Born again Christians. The Holy Spirit doesn’t force himself unto people that don’t want him. That would kinda be spiritual rape, God is a gentleman he’ll wait until you consent and ask him in.

Well, that is True For CHRISTians. This is a different issue for pagans that are slaughtering their precious children. They are indwelt by a different 'spirit' -none of which is HOLY. They were however, Created in the Image of GOD. They must suppress this Truth and We must expose The TRUTH, as HE Is Our MASTER.

@@mikebaku1803 , very good! This is the closest to Truth, most Scriptural that i've seen here. We are actually Born Again From ABOVE, by GOD Alone, and then HE Grants Us Faith and Repentance unto Eternal Life! Keep up the Good, Brother Like. Solí DÊÔ Gloría

Do we have 60 million spots to fill for adoption and enough money to support all these women while they carry to term? Possibly putting the rest of their lives in jeopardy?

They say they didn't learn anything in education systems, sex education etc, they are in college systems and still haven't learned anything, that's something

Deshundrick Burt anyone has a choice to kill.

You can't have both options. One is moral and the other is physical and immoral.

@@sharmibhalla6757 TRUE

@@apology5924 TRUE

Deshundrick Burt The always convenient euphemism...

Darius Rodgers wow that’s a really poignant way to put it- killing a family member. That’s true😭

Numbers 5:11-31 - abortion performed in the bible Hosea 9:14 Give them, LORD-- what will you give them? Give them wombs that miscarry and breasts that are dry.

@The Called 333 true. We were all created individually and will have to give an account to God individually

@@Xarai always remember to give context before citing verses lol. Bible verses without context don't help

@@Xarai It has been a while since I've dug deep into this book of Scripture, but I'd highly suggest reading much more than that verse. A verse outside of its context can easily lead people into the wrong direction, and it's a way that people try to make the Scriptures say what one wants it to say, instead of allowing the texts to speak for themselves. But if I recall correctly, this area of the book is in regards to a public legal dispute. And so I believe what you're reading about is a prophet explaining to these people that judgment is inevitably coming upon these people who are engaging in cult-like activities during these festivals. In fact, I believe the part you're referencing is specifically in regards to what the prophet is asking for God to do (as judgment) since these people are engaging in idolatry. It's not saying that God wants people to murder their babies (or as some call it, engage in having an abortion). In fact, God says the opposite. He gives a commandment for people not to murder. However, in this passage, it's simply a prophet addressing the idolatrous crowd and asking God to bring judgment upon them. And God bringing judgment is also quite different from people deciding on their own to take lives. On another note, although I'm way too tired tonight to even look into what you're referencing in Numbers, simply seeing an act occur in the bible does not constitute God giving consent for people to engage in such acts. Cain kills Abel, but that doesn't mean it's fine for people to kill their brother. We also read about Judas Iscrariot hanging himself, but that's not saying people should go out and do that. In fact, Christ said that it would've been better for him to have never been born.

teenagers - if you seriously think teenagers are mature etc then you don't deserve to be able to have children anyways. You think everyone has to live by your standards and your way. srry bud but the entire country disagrees with ya

@@Xarai what exactly are you saying? Are you saying teenagers should be able to have sex then kill their baby if they become pregnant?

I really wish that was the basis of his argument, because when people know they have to be accountable for their actions I honestly believe people will make better choices about having sex

Unforgiveness too.

Blinded,its done by intent.

Well I’m never going around you! You are a smart guy! haha!!! I agree with you on all accounts!

Bruh, are you a detective?😂

💯💯💯💯 body language gives them away

Sounds like something some guy told her to hookup with her without protection and she believed him....

😂😂😂

@@cloudx4541 We could say she got screwed.

@@belmum1689 Leave 🤣🤣🤣

I've seen them in the health isle because I buy eye medication there.

Imagine being killed by something you have never even heard of.

SpartanVirus Comment of the year

It almost seems like they were liking what Pastor Jeff said, but at the end just reverted back to their own beliefs, void of any consistency

What makes him so effective is his compassion and humility. You should try it. It is the Jesus way. Gitsome!

@@VMAri-in5cl Leftists are slaves to their emotional compulsions; it is maddening trying to reason with them. Jeff was amazingly patient; I was seriously in awe at him.

@David Lo Pan Same to you, friend!

Sorry, his "rabbi"?

@markj6700 I know right it's a womans right. They should be able to kill there child up to the age of 18 if they misbehave too cause like poverty and like rights.

markj6700 more name calling eh? Nice. Thought I’d find you hear spouting your vile tongue. Pathetic.

@markj6700 I support your right to murder babies dude. Cause like women's choice.

@markj6700 👍 science bro.

markj6700 Sorry if we don't support the right to make a choice to murder innocent lives in the womb, actually I'm not sorry. This decision is ludicrious and ridden in selfish idolatry that seeks convenience. I've yet to see a response from pro-choice that warrants the taking of most defenseless's life.