Baseball has some weird "unwritten rules" and some AWESOME drama This is a clip from The Pat McAfee Show live from 10am-Noon EST Mon-Fri. SUBSCRIBE: / @thepatmcafeeshow MERCH: store.patmcafeeshow.com
Gotta be honest I've never understood the whole 'don't run up the score' mindset. It's not like its parents playing with their kids, it's grown ass adults playing competitive sports. If you suck, you suck. Take your beating and learn from it.
The ONLY time I can understand getting annoyed or frustrated is in basketball when the game has 10 seconds left everyone accepted the game is over and a player goes for a steal or takes a wide open shot just to try and get a few more points. Although I do understand if you disagree with that too
Some plays just delay an already finished game. Why go for an onside kick up 40 or go for a 3rd and 5 with 10 seconds left when ur up by 3 scores when you can take a knee? Some plays yeah you play until the game is over but some things you shouldn’t do as a courtesy for someone else.
As a rangers fan, it doesn’t matter how many runs you’re up or the count. Don’t throw a pitch that can get rocked if you can’t handle a homer. Also why was the score a factor? Didn’t we put up 30 on the Os? We were swinging at the end of that game.
That was something not so many people talked about. Like, you don't like getting homered with the count 3-0? Then try to throw a decent pitch, don't expect a monster hitter to be nice.
I love rangers with all of my heart and I am with you on this! It doesn't make sense that we are making a big fuss over this. Don't throw a pitch down the middle if you don't want it to be rocked!
@Michael Heathman If tatis took the 3-0 pitch, he probably would've gotten some offspeed to setup a double play ball and he's down 3-2 now. If the pitcher didn't want Tatis hitting 3-0, he shouldn't have tried nibbling with sliders the first two pitches, and then miss outside with a fastball. Tatis just saw the fastball, the pitcher has to hit the zone, why wouldn't he swing. If the rangers are still trying to come back and win then why should the Padres stop trying to score
The pitchers have fragile egos. Majority of the unwritten rules are to benefit the pitchers. They seem to have the worst temper tantrums. Worst of them all: Madison Bumgarner.
The Rangers had 2 innings left to come back and score 7 runs to tie the game. We have seen games where a team scored 6-9 runs an inning. So that grand slam by Tatis was the extra insurance runs/nail to the coffin to win in case the rangers sneaked back in the game and scored runs.
💯so true .. it’s unfair to say the Rangers have the right to give 100% in an attempt to come back, but the Padres can’t give 100% to maintain their lead
If Tatis struck out in that ab because he passed up the perfect pitch at 3-0, and Texas scored 8 runs between the two remaining innings, that would’ve been the kind of loss that can send a team into a downward spiral. They won, and continue to win, and a good deal of that is because of the hitting of Tatis.
If the manager had a problem with it then why was Tatis still in the game up 7 in the 8th. If you dont want him doing what hed gets paid millions of dollars to do then take him out of the game.
As a kid on a travelling baseball team, we've beat kids bad enough to switch hit and pull out wooden bats to have some fun. I've also been beat so bad that our opponent gave us a water break during the top of the 6th because we couldn't get them off the field. My parents and coaches told me the same thing either way, if you don't want someone to keep winning, stop them...
I still remember my team giving up over 20 runs, mostly in one inning, in the pouring rain. We were told to stop them. We didn't cry then, why are paid professionals crying now?
@@ooSyzygy if it wasn't for the summer Georgia heat, our coach probably wouldn't have accepted the break before we could get 3 outs. We all learned that day that there's levels to this game, and when it's someone's day, try to escape with you dignity and catch them the next time 😂
Losing bad is honestly fun when you're getting better, just playing. It builds character & makes you decide to stay average or work harder. We only got whooped by all 12 y/o teams but still 😂
Obviously Chris Woodward didnt see the braves lose 11 runs in an inning which destroyed their playoff birth. The game is never over if there's still one inning left.
I think most baseball fans have seen their bullpen blow a massive lead in this era of baseball where most hitters can tattoo the ball and put it in the seats. So I don’t understand this notion that they were up enough runs. It’s beyond dumb!
There should be no issue. I might have an issue if this was college or high school, amateurs not getting paid. But these are professionals! Win or lose, blowout or close game, they're getting paid. Professionals shouldn't be complaining about running up the score.
@@user-vk4dj3dg6r ehhhhhhh i think high school leagues should implement a mercy rule. If a national championship contender high school team played a private high school with 150lb 5ft7 linemen, i'd hope they show some mercy lol. D1 and above, no mercy for sure.
It's just the principle of it. Up 7 runs in the 8th inning, bases loaded, and a 3-0 count. The pitcher can't throw a strike and he's most likely gonna walk him and bring in a run. There is no reason to swing on that pitch. No hate at all to Tatis the guys a STUD. No reason to get too upset over it, it's just very very looked down upon
When your coach is in his first year after spending many years with the oppoaing team. Dudes still loyal to the rangers and not the Padres. If i was the owner or GM id question his loyalty and integrity
If they don’t want the players to play the game to their best ability, then don’t let them play. What’s the point of paying them all this money if you’re gonna have them half ass it
I agree. They can score respectfully, without excessive celebrations, but scoring as much as possible for fear of pitching implosion/ bats get hot should be the unwritten rule. As many runs as possible.
Thank you for the reference; I was sure it had happened multiple times, sorry it was regarding your team, but I'm a Reds fan and they provide their share of highlights for others as well. Peace!
All throughout little league from T-ball to senior division ball I was taught by my coaches to have fun and play the game with a “Sandlot mentality”. That all ended when I started playing high school baseball and my coaches and peers enforced the “unwritten rules” upon me. I was called “classless” and even was called a “thug” because I flipped a bat after crushing a home run in practice! After my sophomore year my motivation for playing baseball was crushed because I couldn’t be myself anymore. I still love baseball but I understand why baseball doesn’t appeal to kids anymore.
That and they decided to publicly smear and shame the greatest star the MLB has had since Babe Ruth and out him for steroids when he was clearly only taking them because he was sick of seeing lesser players getting juiced up and stealing his thunder
Ryan Steiger is totally correct... more of those unwritten rules should be broken. If the battery didn’t want to give up a hit, the pitch should’ve been in the dirt...
MLB’s motto is “Let the Kids Play” but then when a player hits a tater which is DOING HIS JOB, he gets backlash for it. This is so dumb I can even believe it’s real. The MLB is so soft.
I absolutely agree with you guys 100%. But I will say, in regards to stepping on throats and finishing off games, one big difference is there is no way to run out the clock in baseball.
Before I even watch the video, guarantee pat makes this about “old whites”....will update if I’m right He sure as hell started alluding to it at the end 😂😂
Okay so long story short, so if people are raving about him hitting a Grand slam on a 3-0 pitch and he supposedly should not have 🤦🏻♂️ does that mean if the opposing team comes back in the 9th and rallies they have to stop one run short out of respect 🤦🏻♂️ WT* is this world coming to!! Ahhhh🙄 people are soft nowadays.
Played team sports for 40 years. When we play, we play to WIN! Perform to the top of your ability. The OBJECTIVE is to CRUSH the other team... There’s a reason for the saying “There’s no crying in baseball”
Padres manager only said he gave the take sign, that it was missed, but Tatis has the green light moving forward. It was Woodward that took the issue, then got suspended for having his pitcher throw at the next batter.
There is it’s called mercy rule but it’s used more in the early innings like if the score is 15-0 entering the 4th inning the games have a called due to mercy rule but every inning it goes up by five runs so for them to have gotten mercy ruled they would have to score another 15 runs at that point
The thing is even high school players are worried about their stats. You got students needing to go to college on a free ride. My opinion, once you get to highschool, it's open season on everyone.
Baseball is the team sport where a individuals stats matter most at the end of the season that home run will add value to him may help him get a on the all-star team during the season anything helps.
There were several issues that weren't discussed. One was that Tatis missed the third base coach sign for him to take. The pitch was a strike, low and outside, but Tatis has good power to the opposite field so he took a swing and added four more RBIs to his stats. The other issue is that Manny Machado had the next pitch thrown behind him, so in a sense Tatis put a teammate in the crosshairs. With a pitching staff that stinks and only 60 games this season I'm sure the Padres players will be swinging for the fences to score more runs, but also giving the fans what they want. By the way, in the second game of that series against Texas Will Myers hit a another grand slam in the first inning.
As a baseball fanatic, this is one of the dumbest “rules”, unwritten or otherwise, that’s ever been uttered. You don’t want the guy to send one to your moms front porch? Don’t groove one down the middle regardless of the count
28-3 😂 .....never stop playing until it’s over. If you have a dominant season or team, do not lower your standards for the competition if your getting PAID to do so. Football IS different, because of injuries due to fatigue. But baseball isn’t as demanding. They were just ready to go home.
It's not unwritten because it's negotiated each time, but in football if one team is trying to run out the last few plays, the offensive lineman say "we're kneeling ". And if the defensive line says okay, nobody hits each other. But if the O line says it and the D line is silent, the the O line knows to be ready to block.
The Rangers beat the Orioles 30-3 like 5 years ago. They didn't seem to have a problem with it then. No lead is safe and you should always try to score more runs.
I think it’s a mutual understanding/respect in baseball that your limited on pitchers so if your out of fresh pitchers the other team could just tee off and make the game longer, risk injuries, use up more players and then next game it’s the other team’s advantage so it’s a mutual thing that we lost let’s go out fresh and healthy and the other team gives us that respect tomorrow
The only time I've really seen this in football was when Chris Boniol tied the record for field goals in a game. The Packers weren't really happy about the Cowboys kicking a short field goal when Dallas was up 12 points with a minute to play. When they realized that it was for the record, they were ok with it and congratulated Boniol. That said, any hitter that doesn't swing at a hanger with a 3-0 count straight up isn't a hitter.
One unwritten rule in football I can think of... When the offense is up and has enough downs to run the clock out, you let them kneel without crashing the O line. I remember someone not doing that a few years back and it was a pretty big deal.
I'm on the side of Michael Irvin from a baseball standpoint. If someone hits a homerun off me, pimp it, do what you do...but don't get butthurt if I strike you out and go crazy. Be a better pitcher to stop homers, or be a better hitter to not strikeout.
These are the same people that got mad for Damien William's running for the TD in the superbowl rather than running the clock out. He was 2nd in the running for superbowl MVP before that and just made a name for himself even more with the touchdown.
I think this is an “unwritten rule” in like city ball or maybe some high school games. But when you are competing for a championship swing that bat and go hard!
Unwriten rules never mattered to me or my traveling team when I was in HS playing, it was we’re gonna score and we’re not gonna stop untill the games Over idc if were winning by 15
Yes there are unwritten rules in the NFL. The most obvious one that comes to mind is that when you're blowing a team out, you start moving to less air attack and more ground game. This lends itself to not running up the score. Unwritten rule.
They say it doesn’t make sense but they do it in football and basketball when the second string goes in. Gets close, first string goes back in. Gets close, you swing on that pitch. but all do it. btw- I have no issue of putting the pedal down when you’re up at that level, but I’m also for good sportsmanship too.
When I played it pissed me off when we had a big league. I couldn't hit the ball out to save my life but stealing bases was my thing. A walk id be on 3rd. The bombers could hit bombs with a big lead but I had to go base to base
There’s a couple unwritten rules in football that I’ve seen but maybe Pat doesn’t want to talk about, but they aren’t quite as drastic as baseball. Like at the end of the game, if you look over at the other coach and they give you the down sign then you can just take a knee to end to end the game. Don’t remember who I saw going over this. In basketball, it’s appreciated if you don’t score the last possession if you’re going to win but if stats are on the line or something then stats.
