Pathfinder Kineticist Class Analysis 

I play a geokineticist in pathfinder society. Level 11 just fought rune lord krune. I was doing an average of 60 damage a round with metal blast. By the end of the fight i was the only one still alive or conscious , did 99 damage with an empowered metal Blast for the KO which left me with an effective 13hp

One of my friends in one of my games is an Undine Water kineticist, her nickname is "the executioner" since her damage is SO HIGH! And she always somehow gets the last hit on enemies. This class is definitely one of my favorites since you can do so much with it. I do agree with chat/commentors that you should really just go Dex since Blasts ARE "light" weapons for the sake of Weapon Finesse, and Blast damage is strictly Con based no matter the form infusion.

Nice video. It's always a treat to see one of my favorite classes covered! I'll keep it on tab in case I need to link someone to an explanation. Humble suggestion for feat advice, though... Physical blasters should get Point Blank Shot and Precise Shot ASAP. Without them, you'll miss way too many shots. Energy blasters should get Spell Penetration and its Greater version by mid levels. Many creatures have spell resistance. PBS and Precise are still good. Melee Kineticists are much better off staying DeX based. It helps your ranged AND melee if you take Weapon Finesse and it's far less taxing in point buy.

Interesting. I'd never even looked at Kineticists. They sound like they could also be accurately called Elementalists.

I decided to play a Kineticist for game my group is doing after Christmas and this video was the first recommendation on learning the class! Thanks a bunch.

Seriously, when Kelikke joined up I was CLUELESS. What the frakk is a kineticist? Thanks OP for making it clear that kineticists = Korra/Aang. Ok. So I’ve been leveling those girls wrong. Time to respec.

love this and your guides are fucking awesome. I just got into Pathfinder and this has me happy af

I've got an ifrit pyrokineticist with elemental whispers 2 giving her a fire wysp familiar. Its a protector archetype which is able to boost my character's AC and the familiar can split damage 50/50 if they're touching my character effectively giving her 50% more health. On top of that the resonance and servitor passives of the wysp stack with bodyguard and quick reflexes, allowing the wysp to buff her AC by a whopping 4. This +4 also goes for aiding another in melee combat which along with constantly being burned thrice and soaking the damage with the familiar, let the character take a physical blast type and still consistently hit since her attack bonus sits around +16 and goes up to +21 max. She's level 6. I love this build.

Really excellent guide! I had to look for a while before I found one for pathfinder 1e. Thanks for the tips! this is my first forray into Kineticist and im really looking forward to it.

Been looking at building a Duergar Geokineticist. Either ARG or DSP chassis. Thanks for the vid D6!

You forgot to talk about the Supercharge, Composite Specialization, Metakinetic Master, & Omnikinesis (which allows you to use every element at the cost of 1 burn either per use of a blast or to change any wild talent (Infusion or Utility) into any other wild talent of the same category) abilities in the Kineticist class. Though most of them change or reduce the cost of certain previous abilities, Omnikinesis should’ve been in the video for sure since it’s an original ability & doesn’t change or reduce burn cost of previous abilities.

It may seem weird, but I’ve built an Archetype for the Kineticist called the Elemental Injector which is entirely based on Bioshock. You lose quite a few of the class features in exchange for Elemental Elixirs (Eve hypos) which you can use to remove burn, heal, and eventually use to gain burn to change your kinetic blast and even eventually your element entirely.

I've asked for this and here it is, very nice.

For a melee Kineticist the Kinetic Knight subclass is a must

Human - dual talent - you can go +2 dex and con at the same time. Hobgoblin have the same but are probably not a good option socially in most games. Air is the best for movement options and lightning is the least resisted element, earth is a close second plus you have defensive options. The issue is that your playstyle is pretty much the same regardless of level, in other words, they can be boring to play after a while. A possible dip to benefit the class is 1 level in Urban Barbarian/Invulnerable Rager Barbarian, why? Because the Urban Barbarian can control their rage allowing you to do your kineticist stuff AND the Invulnerable Rager gets damage reduction. Take extra rage as a feat and use judiciously. Another option is to boost charisma to 15 and take Skill Focus (Diplomacy) and Eldritch Heritage + Improved Eldritch Heritage (Pit Touched) - this will boost your Con score at high levels. You could do some alchemist dips too.

I've been playing around with several builds of this class for the past week and I got to say...I want my current character to die. Lol Going Geo, picking up Earth Glide and take fire/air/aether as your second to get what is basically fly or actual fly. Then take "Shot on the Run" feat and come out of the earth, unload onto your target(s) and then sink back into the earth afterwards so they can't even target you. I the idea of flying up to the roof of a cave and just Earth Gliding into it is just awesome to me. Disclaimer: Your GM is likely to be pissed he can't hit you and you'll come across an enemy that can hard counter you when you go into the earth. Like kill you instantly if done right. Or he might magically enchant the walls to where they can't be used in that manner, a mimic wall, or just straight metal walls. (Consider getting Void and getting the talent that allows you to live without needing to take a breath.) Also, there is an option to still do sick damage and heal like a freaking beast. Imagine your damage + 1d6 as a heal that other people in your party can take the burn for you. You're looking at 5d6+20ish per touch at level 7....and that doesn't include the burst healing(acts like channel energy) that you get at level 8. Which can take that healing(half if you don't have the wood blast) and apply it to everyone(and damage all undead or heal enemies that aren't undead). Really sick class...I'm looking forward to it. After typing this...my warpriest tomorrow might be a little more reckless than normal.

I would have mentioned Oversoul Kineticist. It's my favorite archtype. A Halfling Aether Kineticist with a feat focus on Diplomacy has been a blast to play, and at seventh level I can now become invisible whenever I choose to

Oddly enough, my barbarian just died and I was thinking about rolling up a kinetic knight to replace him. Been giving the kineticist a closer look and I like what I see.

D6, Would you be opposed to doing a video on rangers? They're one ofbt he classes that has a bit going on with eml, especially if you go with an animal companion, and I'd like to hear your take.

I've got a undine water kineticist, who uses her blasts to heal allies. One of my party members is a fire kineticist as well.

Interesting. I may have to finally try out the Kineticist.

Such an underrated class. Its not super high tier but damn is it fun

Would be interesting to introduce a chance of possession or soul corruption or just a psychotic rage state for a character that regularly pushes their limits with how high their burn can go.

can you cover mesmerist next?

As some advice if you wanted to make. Lich or vampire go with overwhelming soul archetype makes con based into character based.

As much as I appreciate you giving the Kineticist some much deserved love, you literally just read the class out of the book. You could have gone into the pros and cons of different elements/blasts/talents...

Ice Blast is not a Touch Attack, it is a Physical Composit Blast , half piercing, half cold damage.

Kineticist, the best hidden weapon. I would suggest Gunslinger/Kineticist multiclass combo. If your gun or guns are taken away... 😉 Surprise!!!

I am currently working on a class that is a combination of Fighter, Brawler, Monk & Kineticist, and yes, it's as unbalanced and overpowered as it possibly could be 👍

Why has no one tried to build megaman with this class??? Am I really the only one? Gathering Power's flavor text just screams Megaman X to me XDXD

Do a video like this for the Psychic class please!

I played one. Everyone kept pointing at rules in the book that seem to counter each other. This was walk through cleats a lot of that up and if I get to play more often I would like to play one again

Doesn't weapon finesse apply to the energy blasts? They are ranged touch attacks, and touch is considered a "light weapon." The physical is always a ranged attack, needing dex... I'm mostly thinking in terms of conductive weapons.

I'm working on a Wyvaran kinetic lancer and being new to pathfinder I'm struggling a little bit

Very informing episode, will you be covering 2nd edition pathfinder stuff when it launches?

Was this made before the Wood kinesticist came out? That one is over powered on the Skulls and Shackles story.

i just want to know roll to see if say fire blast lands or not because honestly its 1 in the morning and im lost

did wood and void just not exist yet when this came out?

Nice. Does this mean there is a kineticist build video in the works? 🙄😁 ~ Adam

you guys should do ninja next

Do you take requests? I'm wondering if you know how to make a workable White Haired Witch, or a pre-errata Scarred Witch Doctor.

...did they not talk about void or wood?

Hey i have a problem that i dont know what an associatet blast is and i want to use the Thundering Infusion but dont know what they mean by electric, thunderstorm and sorry for bad english

Still no ranger analysis? Sadness

So I've seen in numerous forums and discussions that the Kineticist isn't a really good class to pick due to having only a d8 Hit Die, 2/3 BAB, etc... These discussions date from many years ago, however, probably before the Kineticist received updates or adjustments. Would anyone still recommend picking this class over other choices? I really love the concept but I don't want to be behind the other players number-wise and be useless.

str? not even sure if kinet knight uses str

Doing the math is atrocious for these guys unfortunately, you are far far to squishy. By 20th level persay with a +10 to con you can accept 13 burn points which gives you essentially a -260 to HP (It might as well be if you still go unconcious when brought to that threshold. So for using your resources you are brought to 100 effective HP at 20th level? Are you kidding me? Some cr10s can deal 100 hp in a single round. You are built like you are supposed to be a sniper far far far far away from combat because if you use your resources you are given to do something actually cool instead of just a flat smack em a time or so. You are punished by -20 health per burn point? Absolutely rediculous. They do not deal nearly the damage necessary to be that bad of a glass cannon. For example a wizard with a 0 in con that retrained all their d6's to max has 120 hp. And a flat bare wizard has much more damage potential with just bare bones spells past what maybe 5th level? Frustrating to me that its so difficult to make this class even average as per raw. TLDR: im butthurt.

It seems really cool, just not for me. Great video.

Every person I've played with that tried kineticist has regretted it. The lack of a role play identity compared to other classes made them very bland.

toughness doesn't give you additional burn, wtf are you talking about