pattern testing Muller passing waterfowl choke. (surprising results). 

Thanks man I really appreciate it! Please consider subscribing!

That’s awfully white of you …..

Yeah lol that was almost a year ago. My videos are definitely a lot better now.

Well I'm sure you'll like the Waterfowl chokes. Use code CASEL10 to save you some $$$ And I'm not sure what shells your planning on shooting this season, but I definitely would recommend getting some Salt Creek Custom Ammunition. I just finished testing some custom shells I had him make and boy they pattern amazing at 20/30yds. They are a 2 3/4" 1 1/2oz #5 bismuth traveling 1250fps. Would DEFINITELY RECOMMEND. They pattern great out of the Muller Decoy choke. I'm actually going to post a video of me patterning them later tonight. So make sure you have the notifications on so you can watch it!

That my combo. And I get over 80% in my groups all the time. Boss #3/5's and passing. Patterning at 25 and 45yrds. Boss just suits these chokes so well

Thanks man I appreciate it

If you go watch my new steel vs TSS video, I patterned the passing choke with 3in #2 Rio shells. And they patterned phenomenally

The UFO is a really good choke I like it, and you can shoot any type of shot out of it, but it has to be smaller than slugs and buck shot. But if you go watch one of my newest videos I patterned it with Apex ammunition waterfowl TSS. at 80yds and it did amazing. It is a extra full also

Ok

Kent patterns just fine out of stock chokes too.

Not as good as muller though

What your max range

With that setup in the video, about 40-45

Yes really, I've seen it, and I'm going to make a video of me patterning it at 80 yards in the next few weeks so subscribe and ring the notification bell so you know when I post it

Sky Blasting

We shoot a lot of meet shoots, some call them chippers or back fence, most are 80 to 120 yards. My oldest coast to coast 660c does better than the krieghoff kx-5. But the stoger 3200 20 gauge gets them out there too.

Yes you can shoot any shot type

Go watch my newest video, I patterned the UFO with Apex TSS

What choke thread pattern does it take?

@@coocspursuits honestly don't know but am researching to find out . I bought it a month ago I'm searching to find info on the choke threads

​@@robert4027 if you want to talk to Devon witch is the guy who works for muller he should be able to answer your questions. This is his phone number he said you can text him or call him. 9048054354

My Winchester SX4 12ga

Wouldn't hurt to buy another lol

The decoy is a light modified, the passing is a improved modified

Passing is terrible too

Thanks, subscribe. I have another Muller video coming out in the next week

Thanks

Well I patterned both with the same shell and Muller did better, but carlson is still a good choke

Everybody has their favorite chokes. I shoot a lot of sporting clays, Continental, and meet shoots. There is a number of people shoot the Miller's and they all love them. Talked to buy who had them over 10 years. One was cracked and they sent a brand new one free of cost. Only saw one guy shooting carlsons, other than the ones I shoot in my 20 guage for competition.

That's muller, not miller

Everything in life is a compromise. Even lead 1145 fps target loads pattern better than 1300 fps target loads. You compromise pattern for energy. Whether the difference is worth it is debatable. By the time you get out to 40 yards the gap between a 1400 fps and a 1550 fps tightens up a lot. Carlson is usually better than OEM and Muller is usually better than Carlson for me when I try all three. That could just be an artifact because I usually pattern OEM, then Carlson and then Muller, but I don't change unless the pattern is bad to start with. Honestly I've fixed a gun a lot of times with just switching OEM chokes as they can be pretty inconsistent from one to another.

Hello,I've been doing research on Muller chokes and thinking of buying one . What is mullers a lying tool about ? I try to be informed before I buy

They pattern better with low fps loads, 1300fps works best, boss make a 3" #3/5 bismuth and they pattern really good out of the choke at 80 yards even. Go watch some of my newest videos with the Muller Chokes, I got deadly patterns out to 80 yards

Sounds like you need to use the UFO muller choke if you want tighter patterns. If you get it let me know how it performs

Anything faster than 1300 it blows your pattern out but everyone believes the high velocity steel marketing

Exactly

The pain I had reading this. Shotgun ballistics do not work the same as rifles. And realistically 95% of duck hunters don’t shoot past 35 yards. Insert “oh I killed one of them there spotted leopard hybrid mallard Canada gooses at 75 with my Jebs ultra tight bun hole choke”. If you are patterning and want optimal pattern at 35 or more you HAVE to step down your shot size to atleast 2 shot and even then you ONLY have 121 pellets in a 3” shell. Muller himself tells you, you need 90-100 in a 30” circle to be lethal. Lightweight pellets do not hold energy no matter how fast you throw them patterns just blow up. Surviving duck season did a video and showed that 200fps slower only moves the shot string a few inches at range on ducks so AKA negligible.

I have a video where I patterned it with TSS on my channel

If you go watch surviving duck season he does Muller vs jebs and Muller did better

@@coocspursuits Please don’t take this comment as being negative towards you or him. I have watched that video and really disagree with his assumption of Jeb’s. They make high quality choke tubes. I do agree with most of what he says. Non ported almost always performs better than ported. He only tried one Jebs choke tube and it was a ported choke and it was a .690 constriction choke. I have been pattern testing shotguns, ammo, barrels, and tubes very extensively for over 25 years. The video he made is only a fraction of the number of guns, tubes, barrels, and shells I’ve tested on paper and game. Carlson and Briley non ported chokes are usually reliable, but have seen more Ported Carlson choke tubes that were poor quality. There are some wads that do not separate from shot constantly causing erratic patterns and Most of the time a ported choke tubes designed to separate the wad from shot will improve patterns with those loads. There’s an enormous amount of factors to everything in the shotgun world.

Jeb’s are the worst choke tubes I have ever tried