Paul Ince SLAMS The Way Man City Have Been Treated By The Premier League Compared To Everton 😱 

I'm guessing someone at the premier league has had their car scratched by an Everton fan??? They seem to have a vendetta against the Toffee's!

PL is becoming a JOKE now

8 points for the price of an average midfielder is an absolute joke. Everton have been operating under premier league sanctions for the last couple of seasons, so any perceived sporting advantage has been more than balanced out by that. There is no club in Europe more persecuted than Everton, its utter corruption of the highest order.

Biggest scandal is that Everton have spent nearlly 900 million and are shite

Reeks of curruption, pure bulls,,,t

As per Everton, remember FFP is on a 3-year rolling basis and their 1st deduction was based on 2 years ago while the most recent is based on the most recent year that just closed in which they breached FFP again and hence the 2-points. I think the whole thing is a shambles and without an actual framework for punishment, it makes everything look very suspicious as per the Everton fans' rightful perspective for asking questions. I think the PL have shot themselves in the foot with this by not being transparent with their reasons why a punishment is given and to what degree. A framework would solve a lot of it, yet they (all the PL teams) seem not to be interested in doing so otherwise, it would have been done.

In the Everton case the PL keep rushing into one mistake after the next. They wanted to hit the club with 17 points deduction to relegate them. That would have illustrated to the Government they can run their own house without outside interference. The PL didn't bank on an appeal panel finding their recomendation to be illegal. Now they rush through a second deduction against Everton desperate to avoid the season ending with unresolved appeals. In doing so the panel on this current case couldn't agree with the PL viewpoint on some parts of this hearing because the PL didn't give them enough time to hear the case. So it would appear Everton will have another deduction next season or whenever they return to the Premier League. Teams like Luton might have something to say about that. This whole process gets more amd more messy for Masters and his cronies. What have they got hidden that is so damning to keep the eyes of the government out so desperately.

did not see this coming from the ex-United player. Truly remarkable.

Why’s nobody talking about the fact that Manchester United have been charged and fined for breaking FFP rules this season. The same way that Arsenal and Newcastle in the signings of players on loan with a 12 month buyout clause is a joke to get around the FFP rules. Everton were constantly advised by the league that they were in a position to be in trouble and they still signed players who were influential in them avoiding relegation.

The Premier League allowed Spurs to waive the stadium costs as regards PSR, but are holding Everton to account for the very same thing. They (The PL) also changed the rules at the start of the season, in response to the clubs threatening legal action, which is how they have managed to charge Everton twice in one season. The PL (over the two charges) recommended Everton be deducted 17 points total... The rules will change again next season and will probably mean a financial sanction is the appropriate punishment. Which will suit City and Chelsea (probably Newcastle too) fine.

115 charges and still walking around smiling !? Those brown envelopes must've been full ?

they’ve already explained forest got less points deducted because they addmitted straight away and everton didn’t. it’s been spoke about on talksport andy 😂

Get rid of FFP.

The reason that the PL isn’t publishing a table of penalties for the degrees of overspend is because each case of overspending will be different. Some will have mitigating circumstances, others won’t. If for instance a club overspends by £10m more than the allowed and is a genuine oversight, should that be the same penalty as a club overspending by £5m that does it intentionally? The intentional overspend is a smaller amount but the intention is different. In City’s case, they have 115 charges to answer. Everton had a small number and it still took two seasons for it to be sanctioned. It’s clear that the greater the number of charges, the longer the timeframe to punish. I don’t think the PL are trying to protect City at all. If they got immediately relegated due to the sanctions and had to sell all of their players, the Premier League won’t notice their absence. They have a tiny fan base. The plastics would soon move to another team.

It's beyond scandalous!

In all fairness new ownership at Chelsea self reported to UEFA and the Premiere league issues they found in the books from prior ownership. Lumping them in with Man City and the approach MC has taken to drag out their situation ( probably until Pep leaves) is not correct. The two are different situations completely.

I don't understand why people can't understand the sheer scale and complexity of the Man City case means it can't be resolved quickly in regards to Everton who essentially admitted guilt with their own evidence. The Man City case is proving fraud, embezzlement and false accounting etc. Consider the punishment of Everton in regards to the clubs who got relegated last season, who suffered more? Consistency over punishment could be argued could be better and better framework of reference could be instilled but this level of outcry is mental.

Will Man city lose some of there league titles

Everton and Notts Forest both punished Man City still marching on - utter lunacy. Add to this VAR and LFC getting screwed at Spurs et al. Frankly at 65 and having been born and raised in Wembley football has been a mainstay in my life. Now, I have lost all faith in the sport. I could add all of FIFA's corruption the game is ruined. Time for a change and a new passion.

Has Andy goldstein done any research at all... the judgments were released which tell you why the points deductions were given and the reductions for mitigating factors

They should take points start of season and that's ur lot if more points to be taken then that's to be start of next season... Never during or after

Mr ince needs to get back in his box he knows as much as I do about this ffp

It does make me chuckle when I see the non-Mancunian United fans who couldn’t point Manchester out on a map let alone old Trafford calling City fans glory hunters 😂😂😂😂

There’s no justification that Everton can be deducted points for two season’s financial errors in one year. Yet Chelsea who self reported on years of errors uncovered by the new owners hasn’t yet even been addressed ?

Why don't the league officials should jump on man shity 115 faults and still have not been fined and points deduction why don't they can not understand it

What rules? The same ones Chelsea are abiding by?

At the end of the day you’ve spent far more than Forest. Their threshold was a lot lower due to the two years in the Championship. Let’s be honest for over a decade now you’ve recklessly spent. It’s been coming.

Everton's mistake was owning up to it and not having so many charges against them like City, which will take so long to get through that Hell would of frozen over by then.

Nothing on the fact premier league changed rules mid process with Everton.

paul ince forgot about one charge for m city there 🤣 its actually115 charges paul clearly its taking longer because the complexity of what city are being accused of doing is way more complicated than the everton and forest situations tho both of them clubs admitted they broke the rules no way are city going to do that with the 115 charges hanging over them because the punishnent would be far worse than a points deduction however it is annoying how long long it is taking 🤔

Paul Ince & all those like him can slam all they like. The fact remains , City has won a lot and shattered all kinds of records. The rich sheikh liked us over you! . Envy will shorten your lives.

Imagine being santioned for breaking FFP Rules for over spending on total dross and also fighting a relegation battle four years in a row. I mean, talk about being mismanaged.

Seems the rich clubs have a different system judging them. The premier league is losing respect for the Man City non action, be consistent and deal with it

The problem is man city have denied the charges Everton and others have admitted culpability that’s the difference

What about Scamchester City?????115

Understand the injustice but what the PL are alleging are also suggesting Executives, investors, financial ppl committing fraud. Proving that would be jail for ppl that's how insane what PL is doing

City's lawyers must have sore tongues with the amout of brown envelopes they've been licking😂

That's why i stop watching EPL corruption all over

155 charges need to be heard sooner the better or the rest of premier teams should strike

Every single Premier League Club are signed up to the ffp rules. That means they agree that they are good and necessary. Therefore, going on to break them is unacceptable. End of.

I’m glad someone’s finally calling out City. The reason however that Everton and Forest are being dealt with quicker is because it’s one charge compared to 115. Plus City are refusing to cooperate, compared to Everton. Everton have however broken the rules and lost a fortune, so they shouldn’t go unpunished.

The shitty issue has been going on for years and behind closed doors! What happens when the rules change? A precedent for punishment was set when they allowed the Scabby 666 to get free! Sours a top 666 side? intended! This stadium will generate North Liverpool! I have personally seen an agenda like this since Thatcher degenerated Liverpool in the 1980s!

From a neutral’s point of view, disappointing that it’s just 2 points. Another 6 points deduction would have been great. Everton would now be sitting 2 points below Luton and Forest, third from bottom, but with a game in hand. What a relegation fight we’d have had on our hands - with Everton still having both Luton and Forest to play! As it is, with just a 2 point deduction, Everton to stay up easily. Luton and Forest to fight it out to the last day of the season when: Luton host Fulham. Forest away to Burnley. Likely to go down to the wire.

115 and tge var decisions that have favoured them over Liverpool and now arsenal in recent years is disgusting

Could Andy explain one point? He doesn’t care why the rules were broken - player spend or stadium. Only asking because if any team wants a new stadium, are they to basically have the cash in the bank first? That would never happen in real life. So no team would ever improve their place if stuck in a stadium as old as Goodson. We all can’t be given stadiums on the cheap, Man City and West Ham in mind. Did those two teams not get a sporting advantage by not having to spend large amounts on building costs so money could be spent on players? Sure Arsenal, Spurs, Sunderland, Brentford and all recent moved teams would agree!

And City cooked the books and covered it up for over a decade and the only reason it got out was because they got hacked and leaked. What should their punishment be, including the 115 ffp.

There's no clarity and fairness that's why it looks very bad and biased. If it was at beginning of the season, we can understand but out of nowhere like that, just no. Bayern, Real, Barca, City, Chelsea and Utd never got a positive net spend in the last 7 years but nothing happened to them. Either wages or transfers.

Expecting a lot more from TalkSport pundits/ ex-players/ experts. TS seems to speak very little and or give more a detailed insight on MC and their charges. Disagree that FFP is system in place to prevent clubs getting into financial trouble. I don’t see how deducting points helps. It makes the club less attractive for players to play for or join.

Everton have actually been let off. They were deducted 10 points but because the FA knew there was going to be more points deducted they gave them 4 points back to cover for the future deduction. No agenda against Everton because they should actually have a total of 12 points deducted

Punishing Forrest and Everton but what about non cooperating ManCheaty 115+ ?

Well if Everton built a new stadium for the prem league maybe they could build one for Man United

Leicester aswell are getting away with ...

The rest of the teams in the league should refuse to play matches against MC until their case is done. Let them pick up their points, they’ll lose revenue quickly.

Bravo

They shouldn't be complaining. Lucky to only get a collective 8 point deduction.

Everton blaming City for breaking the rules? How is spending money you dont suppose to not gaining advantage of others?

Money talks the rich 🤑 get richer

Multi million pound organisations like Everton, Forest and Prem league can also afford top lawyers like City. If Cities charges are so clear and obvious it would not need expensive lawyers to prove them. Its a stupid statement about the affordability of top lawyers etc.

Everton agreed to these rules as did everyother premier league club and Everton & Notts forest admitted they were guilty of breaking these rules.. Cmon City 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😃😃😃

Because Everton lied to the premier league! forest got 4 because they Co operated. Was originally 6 reduced to 2 for Co-operation. Everton are facing a third PSR charge but will get punished for that this year due to interest payments on the stadium and the premier league have said they would not be able to conclude this in time before the end of the season. “Forest Gained a sporting advantage” how?! The amount Forest could spend was less, because of the 2 years in the championship. Forest were at a disadvantaged from their promotion and favourites to go down! We sold Johnson 3 months after June 1st, he played 3 games. So we breached for a total of 3 months. Everton’s has gone on for years with a higher amount to spend. Hope this helps.

No one can bring a show to a halt like Goldstein.

Everton did they over spent by £250m £105 is the limit but Everton spent another £250m on top of that

What’s embarrassing is how little the host of a national radio station knows about the subject he’s discussing🤦🏻‍♂️ the Everton fans just have a victim mentality

They changed the rules about the stadium counting halfway through the review process. They are corrupt.

Calm down Paul your eyes are flying in different directions

It's a spitting penalty

It’s baffling

Maybe because the pl bit off way more than they can chew and have to have the time to sort things out before absolutely getting smashed at the trial.

Sporting advantage should be taken into account if there is a sporting advantage - City have one from their breaches, Everton and Forest have gained nothing from the overspends

Pl and f.a are currupt just like alot of football associations around the world yet they have the audacity to fine or punish clubs. Why give them a further points deduction towards the end of the season. More sense would be to do it for next season. It's like they are trying to get gem relegated

This is just a nonsense I'm a city fan, why do Everton fans go after city, we are not the people doing this to them, i think this is , degusting ,the EPL are bent

I actually think Everton got off lightly. They've been charged for breaching the rules for two seasons - the first breach they got 10 points deducted and reduced to six points. I would have thought they reduced it because they wanted to put back those four points in this deduction but instead it was two points. In my mind, they won two points.

Its just blatantly obvious now that city are getting special treatment,,,, theres no other explanation

City should have been deducted points by now by the Prem doesn’t matter about Uefa charges Prem is it’s own entity. Just shows the level of corruption it’s nuts. People need to revolt over this.

The Premier League and their commissions must now show, with their handling of the Chelsea and Manchester City cases, that they are worthy of any respect and not deemed corrupt! So accordingly, for being fair, impartial and trustworthy, Chelsea must get very heavy points deduction, if not outright relegation to Championship; and Manchester City must be relegated straight to League One or League Two. The whole football world are watching and waiting.

The FA just hate the City of Liverpool in general

Just go back to the old days at let teams spend what they like cos when they get caught cheating the fans don't like it

Everton Delayed there First breach so they didnt get hit with points a year ago, because they new they would have been relagated.

"Listen, I don’t know enough technicality.” And then continues to give an opinion on a subject matter he knows next to nothing about. Pretty much sums up the social media world we live in now.

Pointless trying to explain these legal things to football supporters most of the words are bigger than four letters😂

City? Always room for more midfielders, I guess - not included in the FFP?

Nothing done to man City with 115 rule breaches 😊

Video does not match the Header... 20 clubs make up the premier league and the question has to be... is the PL competent?? How many years to bring the charges against City... the serious charges are pretty much the same charges UEFA brought and we know how that ended... Kangaroo court, then when it was put in a proper court... no evidence! Premier League only brought the 115 charges under pressure... obviously no evidence or it would have been heard long ago! Now we have a situation where the rules brought in by fools... are pretty much restricting every club... January transfer window or should I say Loan window.... Either clubs are caught in the overspend or cannot buy because they would be in overspend! The clubs caught in it are then forced to sell the academy players! The PL could not have made a bigger mess and when you drill down, this started as trying to stop over borrowing and long term debt and remarkably (Spurs & Man Utd) turned it into a rule by where your revenue governed your spend... so no matter a club owners wealth, he cannot spend his own money whilst some clubs are a billion in debt, but can spend as they have high revenues! Now as a City fan you may think I'd have a problem with it... but all I ask is put City to one side and tell me FFP/PSR is good for the other PL clubs, it simply is not... the question is always.... but what about City... and I understand that... But lets say... what you hope happens and we are put in the conference.... that still leaves you with this FFP/PSR and it is not going away, only getting worse... and my last point! Remember City have consistently voted against these FFP/PSR rules as they knew what would happen and exactly that has happened and people still want to slag City off... Had you followed and voted with City, there would be no Everton, NF, Aston Villa, Newcastle and many other clubs strapped and punished by FFP/PSR.... Turkeys voting for Christmas!!

There is NO rules.

A man goes to court for burglary Gets 6 months Different bloke goes to court for burglary Gets 3 months and 100 hours community service . Fact is, dont do the crime,dont do the time

The Sheikhs pulling em strings !

Oh the what about City brigade 😅

What about city 200 point deduction

Two completely different and very different cases. Only idiots will compare the two.

Kevin Campbell summed it up- he doesn’t know the situation. This is typical of all the fans who keep complaining, your clubs ALL signed up for the rules, you’ve broken them and then you cry about it. There’s no hidden agenda, no conspiracy, you’ve broken the rules, you’ve lost over allowable amount. Stop the whinging and start directing your anger towards the people running your clubs not the rules the clubs have all signed up to. Get a grip.

Everyones on the take

City should be stripped off their title and send them to league 2...This is worse thab the Juve scandal..m

I don't understand how Everton get the points deducted when Man City's charges are far more severe. Because of the severity Man City's fate should take priority. Otherwise they could win another Premier League title which should have gone to Arsenal or Liverpool based on fair competition financially and sportsmanship.

How much over the limit has the likes of Man City and other clubs over spent then?

How is a conversation about everton suddenly about our City. The hate is real

So it’s high time Fan power came to the forefront to show these jumped up FA executives just who controls football, A fans united protest against these ridiculous points deductions and made up FFP rules that favour some clubs over others. We are sick of this now. What kind of protest would make them open their eyes to the damage they are doing to not only fans hearts but their mind health. This system stinks and needs to be stamped on now. Maybe if we could get every premier league and Championship fan to boycott one game to start with they might see this for what it is, a joke !!!

I cant stand everton, however this is bang out of order. Cuty and chelc can do what they want.

City's fans like how dare you we did nothing all we did was cook the books spent a bil on players they never had to get the squad together to win trophy how dare anyone question that 😂😂😂😂

City wont get done 'til they've won the league 10 times in a row and the champions league 6 time s, then they'll get a 3 point deduction suspended for a season.

Hey