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Paul Romer: Why the world needs charter cities

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www.ted.com How can a struggling country break out of poverty if it's trapped in a system of bad rules? Economist Paul Romer unveils a bold idea: "charter cities," city-scale administrative zones governed by a coalition of nations. (Could Guantánamo Bay become the next Hong Kong?)
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@trevidog 8 лет назад

The interesting thing I find about the comments is how knee jerk they are. It seems more like 90% of the commentators have preconceived ways the world runs and should run and seem incapable of displaying the imagination to explore new ideas, which makes me question why they watched the video in the first place. While I personally think the idea is unworkable because strongman nations won't want the loss of legitimacy of having a more successful city run by someone else in their country, countries with poor rule of law are too susceptible to changes in governance and corruption and finally no developed country will want to be involved for fears of colonialism and general bad press. I still am willing and interested to at least see a new perspective on how to deal with an important issue.

@atlas42185 5 лет назад

I disagree. 1) there are already examples of this, it's just not exactly as Romer describes. I believe all of the UAE's 7 Emirates have organized special commercial jurisdictions which to varying degrees have their own set of laws, making commerce easier. As Romer just mentioned, Chinese cities in the HK-Zuhai-Macau metropolis have adopted such practices. Macau is basically a smaller Hong Kong, but with slightly less economic freedom, and a more tourism centered economy. Macau itself has leased parts of Hengqin island from Guangdong effectively as a real estate charter. Labuan Island off the coast of Malaysian Borneo is another example. 2) strong men governments do not behave the same because they are not all subject to the same circumstances and the incentives those entail. The UAE is a federation of absolute monarchies, yet it is an a golden example of what Romer describes. Many dictatorships suffer from failures to foster real economic development. These kinds of jurisdictions can give such regimes the best of both worlds. They can protect the legal institutions that special interest groups love while circumventing those institutions so they can actually reap the benefits of real economic development. Without legit efforts like this dictators are often stuck digging themselves into holes (Putin for example).

@MrBlitsBlits 9 лет назад

Rapture in Bioshock anyone? : "I am Andrew Ryan, and I'm here to ask you a question. Is a man not entitled to the sweat of his brow? 'No!' says the man in Washington, 'It belongs to the poor.' 'No!' says the man in the Vatican, 'It belongs to God.' 'No!' says the man in Moscow, 'It belongs to everyone.' I rejected those answers; instead, I chose something different. I chose the impossible. I chose... Rapture, a city where the artist would not fear the censor, where the scientist would not be bound by petty morality, Where the great would not be constrained by the small! And with the sweat of your brow, Rapture can become your city as well."

@ezratyson8544 3 года назад

Which book is this passage from? I loved it.

@GSXR750wx 3 года назад

Bullshit. Chartered Cities will be tax-havens for the rich, specially in England (as UK will be destroyed for this purpose).

@arkology_city 3 месяца назад

@@GSXR750wxwhat if they had direct democracy and ubi instead?

@stensoft 9 лет назад

So, just like real-world Sim City?

@AxleCarp 5 лет назад

This man's proposal was the blueprint for a new kind of colonialism in Honduras: newrepublic.com/article/120559/ive-seen-sorts-horrific-things-time-none-detrimental-country-this Given the literal migrant caravan en route from Honduras as I'm writing this, I think we can see how well this "charter city" idea is playing out.

@ouss 2 года назад

The English word for “charter city” is colony. As La Wik puts it: A ‘colony’ is a territory which is mostly ruled by another state or can be run independently. A colony differs from a puppet state or satellite state in that a colony has no independent international representation, and the top-level administration of a colony is under direct control of the metropolitan state.

@DixyRae 15 лет назад

You're correct. But capitalism is an idea with a PR problem. When you use the old language, you preach to the choir and alienate everyone else. I like what Romer is doing here, providing new ways to think about older ideas that are actually good, but people are afraid to to return to with a fresh perspective. The opt-in model is good, because it doesn't force anything on anyone. A socialist model has more problems because it DOES require compliance from those who may not agree with it.

@gabrielsantiago3016 4 года назад

I kinda heard an ancap, when Paul talks about welfare programs as coercion, while market economies as choice. But yeah, the more autonomous regions, the better! Want to work in a liberal market economy? there's a city close by. Wanna try out an anarchist collective? We've got you covered. Most people would be happier if they could easily live somewhere that genuinely shares their own values, I guess.

@gabrielsantiago3016 2 года назад

@@varvarvarvarvarvar I am being serious. My main point isn't about anarchists themselves, it's about people being allowed to easily live somewhere that is aligned with their beliefs. Don't like anarchists? Go live in another town close by that isn't. It should promote cooperation with other cities and citizens, under the threat they leave your town empty, for better offers. But since you've brought them up, have you ever truly, without letting preconceptions guide you, read about any anarchist society (Paris Commune, Andaluzia and Catalonia, Neozapatistas) or book, like "Bread and Conquest"? You'd realize they truly aren't as "Dangerous and chaotic" as you're painting them to be, and that's mostly pop culture's fault. For some wide standardisation, most anarchist stuff somewhat fits into "libertarian socialists" instead of "No Rulez hier! ONLY MAd mAX!".

@brolixPD 2 года назад

As of 2021 these concepts did not age well for Hong Kong and its relationship to mainland China. The problem with economists is their obliviousness towards moral-political premises, i.e., the ethical view of either man's life as an end in itself or of man's life as a means to the ends of others. You cannot - and must not - compromise on that. This is the essential foundation and bridge form ethics to politics and then to economics, not the other way around, which is the central flaw in Mr. Romer's proposal and of most economists in general; to confuse causes with consequences and divorce economic freedom from its necessary antecedent: political freedom. If you cannot fight for both, you end up with a mirage called charter city.

@louisng114 10 лет назад

CGPGrey sent me here

@briangamboa2310 6 лет назад

what video was it?

@kittylover3597 6 лет назад

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@asandysoldier3164 5 лет назад

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@jzk2020 5 лет назад

Rules for Rulers.

@guanabaradebonechefedomorr7318 4 года назад

And we have today a charter city in honduras, the name is Próspera :D prospera.hn

@onbrowserapp7186 4 года назад

How's that going? What's the status?

@martymcfly5423 4 года назад

i cant find "Prospera" on google maps. Also that website has practically no informations. It looks like every Company can create one of those Special Zones" everywhere in Honduras if the location is accepted by the government. "Cities will be created with the intention of attracting investment and generating employment in currently uninhabited parts of the country, or in municipalities that agree to be converted into ZEDE zones." - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zone_for_Employment_and_Economic_Development_(Honduras)

@kexclusive4875 3 года назад

Can someone please explain to me what is chartered city?

@reichhopprivatwatch1406 3 года назад

@@kexclusive4875 in this case total domination of capital

@izdatsumcp 3 года назад

@@kexclusive4875 It's a city that is administered under a different set of laws than the host nation.

@robertolaiz 10 лет назад

I would love to hear him telling some Chinese people that those "charter cities" have helped erase their poverty. I would really love it. "Slavery" is something that is ringing in my ears, but slaves usually got food and housing, and this is not even the case. And he mentions that is not colonialism because it's a matter of choice... I can imagine how much of a matter of choice is for all the people working miserable jobs to have those jobs...

@jonnyaxelsson9940 9 лет назад

Adrián Magro You spend some time in the Chinese countryside. Then you spend some time in Shenzhen. Then you can come back to talk about "slavery". It is way too easy to say "1. SEZ 2. ??? 3. Profit", but the policies around the SEZ have made China, and the Chinese, richer, stronger, and more successful.

@KnThSelf2ThSelfBTrue 10 лет назад

I think he knows that there will be opposition to it at first... That's the point of a charter city right? To try things out? Anyways, I dig it.

@ouss 2 года назад

@notbobby125 12 лет назад

Hundorus amended it's constitution so a city could be built that is free from basically all local and federal laws, and construction of the city is expected to start this year. Guantanamo Bay may happen later, but it looks like it will be more likely for the next Hong Kong to be in Hundorus instead.

@osvansalinas1141 6 лет назад

notbobby125 Honduras

@JoeKnowlesy 12 лет назад

This is pretty inspiring. I just wish he would tell us something we could do about it. Like maybe he could sell posters and bracelets to us that have a cool slogan on. I think that would solve everything instantly...

@DarkEnjinu Год назад

This was a great presentation and I liked the information that was given. I have been looking into what Charter Cities are for a short while and they seem very close to colonies for sure despite what is mentioned in the video, especially since colonies do still exist today under the name of territories. Though they are called territories the rules of a colony still apply and the first example that comes to mind is Puerto Rico. The major difference though is instead of creating a new judicial zone within the new Charter City, the current one is bribed or coerced. This is an amazing idea and I do hope to see some real good come from it for those who need it because I see so much potential, but currently it seems the one who have the means to move forward with such an idea are those that have benefited from the previous system that cause this idea to come about in the first place.

@Ral9284 10 лет назад

Freedom is the outcome or the consequence of responsibility. Capitalism is the only economical philosophy that allows to everyone to do just that by making oneself responsible of being free. If oneself is irresponsible, well the consequences of that are catastrophic, one will end with the opposite of freedom. There is nothing more destructive for any individual than being slave of ignorance.

@robertolaiz 10 лет назад

And what if you are from a race that has less chances because racism? What if your parents don't have enough money? What if you are born with very health issues that your parents can't afford? We are coming from inequality. People have been born richer than other for centuries. Pure Capitalism, with almost no state, and with all services in the hands of the markets has never happened; the case is that we all pay for capitalism, as we saw when the banks that played with everyone's money came back crying because they've lost all the money that wasn't theirs and they were going to sink. I dare you to mention one reason why capitalism can be classified as a system that makes people free. And don't tell "free market", because as I said coming from a situation of inequality, in general, the richest will be only richer (e.g. Goldman Sachs) and the poor... Please, tell me one,

@Ral9284 10 лет назад

Is based on selfishness and reason.

@robertolaiz 10 лет назад

I don't understand that sentence. Did you have autocorrect on?

@Ral9284 10 лет назад

Sorry, Adrián Magro, as I manage more than one language I forget to change the autocorrect language. But, I fix it. Read again: *_Is based on selfishness and reason._*

@robertolaiz 10 лет назад

I agree on selfishness, but reason... really? Where is the reason in capitalism? Btw, I've just realized we have another common language: Spanish. So ¡Saludos!

@theyreheretokillus 9 лет назад

man oh man does this guy need to advice the president on a few things...

@Ayo22210 7 лет назад

I think money supply increases should fund a charter city and it could be a new stable digital currency.

@NickGreyden 12 лет назад

I like the idea. However I can see huge holes in the project that can lead from anything from civil war to hostile economic takeovers of countries. Good idea, but so many holes would have to be patched before even attempting the project.

@ouss 2 года назад

@benlock1134 9 лет назад

"the company Nelson purchases his telephony from"

@TheMaskedProducer 8 лет назад

there's a large flaw in this line of thought: it's called Foxxcon. Foxxcon is the largest manufacturing base in the world, one of these factories that makes your iPhone in China. Foxxcons employees are what we need to look at, not the CEOs that drive GDP up or the share holders that live in luxury Hong Kong apartments. The employees face the worst conditions in the entire world for working when not considering the American Penitentiary system, slave labour, and child labour. There is no choice, these people either work for capitalist slavers or fascist dictators, and so your argument that the choice model is exemplified is wrong. It's the same fallacy as when looking at the UN and NATO's world democratising, they overthrow democratically elected socialists and replace them with capitalist dictators. One of those dictators was called Saddam Hussein, placed to counter Soviet expansion into a weaker but more Democratic caliphate. We all know how well that went. Do not sacrifice the welfare of the common people for numbers on a Wikipedia page, GDP per capita is immensely skewed by the richest 2% of the world, owning as much as the poorest 60%.

@frencheneesz 8 лет назад

Um, those workers do in fact have a choice. They aren't forced to build iphones.

@MiauFrito 8 лет назад

+frencheneesz You're right, they can choose between building iPhones or starving to death

@iyobosajoshuaowiejosh900 5 лет назад

Miau Frito they have the choice to leave the city

@theinternetsavedmylife 5 лет назад

They also have the choice of working for someone else

@Trazynn 15 лет назад

There's also an environmental version of this curve. Mr.Romer's idea is essentially meant to flatten this curve. He wants to reduce the footprint of developing countries before they start industrialising. If you can introduce cities that already have all the right policies in place, you can prevent environmental nightmares that are a result of unchecked industrial growth.

@bogdanoff_ 5 лет назад

People complaining about colonialism are the same who advocate for open borders. Funny, eh?

@kevinmurimi2176 6 месяцев назад

Colonialism created borders

@EVROPAEAESTHETICA 13 лет назад

This blew my mind. I can't stop thinking about how amazing this would be. So many people could be helped.

@kexclusive4875 3 года назад

Can you please explain to me what chartered city means?

@diegocarcamo2123 2 года назад

I discovered the darkest think

@diegocarcamo2123 2 года назад

He proposed a strange model to my country which consist on building cities from other countries that will work as an individual state each one the main problem is that they removing peoples choice and evolution the main is that he is treathing with a criminal state and they will use his mldle for their own benefit if some one knows these please help to stop him from destroying my country

@EVROPAEAESTHETICA 2 года назад

The idea of charter cities is to start brand new cities in an area with special economic rules (i.e.laissez faire capitalism). The special zone will become wealthy through this process and be an example to the host nation and also be a stimulus to the rest of the local economy. The country would then begin to transition to this economic policy on the whole. That is the explanation of the charter cities idea, steel-manned (represented well). My view on this idea has changed drastically since 10 years ago when I made the original comment. *I oppose charter cities.*

@diegocarcamo2123 2 года назад

@@EVROPAEAESTHETICA thanks for info it looks to be a pretty but what if the actual politicam parties are completely related to criminal activities what will happen?

@totoroben 15 лет назад

I see what this guy is talking about. If I were to design a special zone it would be a car-free city with locally produced food and solar electricity and local production of goods. That is what Americans need as a model.

@TheYahn 11 лет назад

I really liked the visuals at the end. They represent these ideas perfectly

@TakeTheGreenPill 15 лет назад

This is similar to the idea I have for a global community. CALL THEM "AREA CODES" CITIES! Each one has a maskot, no countries just cities!

@ncooty 8 лет назад

All in all, I think this idea needs a little more time in the oven. The idea of "better rules" is too vague to be actionable. "Better" in which ways? As has been noted here, step 3 seems quite problematic. E.g., if Denmark is invited to run a small chunk of Angola, who will choose how that chunk is governed--the Danes, the Angolans, the citizens of the new city, or someone else? Could it be turned over to a private company? Who will choose the leaders of the new city? How much latitude will the city's "leaders" have? (Is "leader" a euphemism for "owner" or "ruler"?) Which currency will they use? (A new currency, as in Hong Kong? What country would want to invest in a currency with sky-rocketing inflation?) How will the fiscal policies of Angola interact with those of the new city? Can the new city sign international agreements? How binding would they be? Can Angola dissolve the agreement? Is the establishment of the new city a diminution of Angolan sovereignty? What court would arbitrate disputes? What will the foreign country get out of it? Cheap labor? Open access to natural resources?

@iyobosajoshuaowiejosh900 5 лет назад

ncooty the idea of a charter city is a test run of new ideas, like he already mentioned, the only impediment would be lack of imagination. The point is giving freedom to enter or not enter the city therefore only those who are okay with the laws would go in the first place and it dissatisfied can always leave, besides the rules which you ask about he already stated would be mirrored from already developed countries, like how capitalism gave us choices between what product of cell phones we want, the point of a charter city is to give the new inhabitants choices of what system of laws they would rather abide to.

@platano214 11 лет назад

City-States have been experimented with and I think we should look to the Ancient Greece city state model and the autonomous communities of Spain as influences.

@cockroach2 15 лет назад

My guess is that its for the same reason we dont have just one huge power plant that supplies power to everywhere in the country: It's more efficient to distribute the plants (or cities) into subsections where a bureaucracy can more easily oversee them.

@Floccini 7 лет назад

We should lead by example and make Brownsville or Detroit charter cities. Current residents keep US citizenship. Newcomers need a Passport and VISA to get into the rest of the USA.

@ouss 2 года назад

@abhinashkumar9429 5 лет назад

after Nobel prize

@j44mac 12 лет назад

In 1790 in the US, farmers made up 90% of the workforce. Now, farmers make up less than 3%. By your logic, we had more food and more food choice in 1790 than now. You're forgetting that better technology and better rules make it so a single person can be far more productive.

@rossplendent 12 лет назад

I'm a little upset about this talk. I've had this idea for years, but I'm just a kid, so no one would listen to me. On the other hand, all that matters is that the idea is out there. Of course, it's not likely that people will listen to him either.

@Sondre7 15 лет назад

Excellent talk. Truly gets at what really matters, rather than the "sunshine stories".

@KyCuJe 12 лет назад

The overall problem with your reasoning, is that if they set up a charter city, they have far less power over that city than they would other cities. If they never set up a charter city, then nothing changes. I don't see a down-side.

@aussie_anarchist 6 лет назад

I disagree about the choices for leaders. A leader is the leader of a State. A State is an organisation which holds an effective monopoly on offensive violence. In these charter cities the leaders should be limited and confined to the protection of the people of the city and their property, which means only a police force and a justice system, and an international military force to protect from foreign invaders. This is essentially why Hong Kong is so successful. It is the most Capitalist place on Earth.

@JBrazosCole 11 лет назад

I'd love to live in a "free zone". Where do I sign up?

@kaunas888 11 лет назад

Sounds like a nice idea, and he is thinking outside the box. Unfortunately he never defines what are these "good" rules. He seems to assume that once we make a special economic zone, leaders and planners, will stop being flawed corrupt selfish squabbling humans, and all agree to do the right thing. The elites today cannot even agree on how to improve our society. Some want more government intervention. Others want less. Selfishness infests the entire process through and through.

@Ah4b 11 лет назад

i was with him until he claimed that the human footprint and crime could be reduced by concentrating people to a city... That's just the opposite of what is happening...

@osvansalinas1141 6 лет назад

Ah4b I guess he meant it will reduce the burden on other cities of the country.

@AdobadoFantastico 9 лет назад

LOL, I doubt any South American nations would have much interest in letting Spain establish charter cities. I gave him the benefit of the doubt for the first 15min. But his examples betray an ignorance of political/social issues. If he'd had suggestions of pairings where there aren't such obvious concerns, it wouldn't seem like he's suggesting these places should all go, "hey, you want to give that colony thing another shot? We want you back." There's just....so much about that that is....uncomfortable, to say the least. I get the concept, and it sounds vaguely plausible. But it assumes complete political cooperation.... which is the opposite of what you'd get. It would be a political nightmare. There's a reason no one ever ASKS for one of these places in their country. Again, I understand his thoughts/hopes. But this is one of those ideas that takes a lot of things for granted. It BEGS for Murphy's Law to get all up in there and start some wars. Speaking of which, anyone recall a place called Crimea?

@osvansalinas1141 6 лет назад

Anguel Roumenov Bogoev where did he talk about Spain setting charter cities?

@cockroach2 15 лет назад

I cant find any statistics on the profit rates of countries (if you have a source handy I'd like to see it). I can tell you that according to the CIA world factbook, India has a real GDP growth rate of 6.6% and that according. From 1991 to 1995 investment in India grew from $132 million to $5.3 billion. Cities like Bombay, Hyderabad, and Bangalore are flourishing from the computer industry. I don't mean to be rude, but I'm not quite sure how you could not know about all of this.

@gthang91582 15 лет назад

Dude...it's called Miami. Miami is Cuba's Hong Kong. And what makes you think Castro would freely allow his people to leave to their new Canadian built Hong Kong? The whole country would move there. Castro has spent the past 50 years keeping his people within the confines of Cuba's borders. I don't think he'd be too into this 'Charter Idea' exactly BECAUSE it gives the people choices. Not sure if you got the memo, but Communism sort of operates completely antithetical to this notion here.

@cockroach2 15 лет назад

1. That we only need one model can be argued, but I'll give you the point because more importantly... 2. The model is not the issue here. Unless I'm misunderstanding you, your improvement on Romer's idea would be to just have all the poor people in the world who wanted come to Hong Kong and the like, to which I say you can't function like that. A distribution of such cities all over the world (especially in needed areas) would be neccesary.

@osvansalinas1141 6 лет назад

I support this idea. Where do I sign up?

@grazzitdvram 15 лет назад

this isn't entirely true nor is it entirely wrong. If artificially constructed cities are the aim they should not look to emulate the traditional city designs that are failing the world over. Rather then condensing everyone into an artificial cities, connecting the villages and towns into massive sprawls that contain farms and industry is the much more intelligent way to design. The distance is an advantage, transportation is the problem. Condensing will only result in a condensed problem.

@LordRelvenous 12 лет назад

Holy shit that bit with the balls at the end fucked with me. That's what I get for watching TED videos stoned.

@KayamaTakeru 12 лет назад

Number of doctors to number of citizens indicates absolutely no positive correlation.

@DesignPunkStudios 13 лет назад

This is a brilliant economic system but it leaves behind the problem of food production. We don't have enough land to feed the 7 billion people that are on earth today. If we take up uninhabited land then we're going to likely take up farm land. That means more food shortages, more starvation, fewer people which means less demand which means less money for the production side which means a crippled economy. Less land means higher food prices. Take current cities and transform them into charter.

@mousers21 15 лет назад

I saw it, but talking in generalities like "good rules" is just fluff. It doesn't mean anything. The ideas are just fantasy and isn't realistic.

@tourv016 15 лет назад

This is the basic idea Robert Nozick proposes in Anarachy, State, and Utopia. Unlike colonies, the rules are determined by the citizens, not forced on them by others. There could be capitalist cities, communist cities, theocratic cities, secular cities, and so on, and people can choose to live in which ever one makes them happiest.

@theiamania 15 лет назад

I have a hard time seeing what is new in this idea. There are hundreds of these cities all over the world, and the one thing that they all have - well you could say that they are build on - is the extreme exploitation of labor.

@DesireSpasm 15 лет назад

A market economy as a whole doesn't fail as long as institutes that make bad decisions are allowed to fail.

@tarohoa 15 лет назад

Yeah he didn't specifically say how it'll reduce carbon emissions but i think he may have meant that if everyone is going to be provided for, having cities would reduce the CO2 emissions because they're more efficient as the guy above said.

@Zetimenvec 15 лет назад

and talking of arable land at the end. It's not about how much land you can build large buildings on, it's about how much farmland you have that can support the big cities.

@Salem309Y 15 лет назад

the using of "Earth at night" NASA pic to demonstrate the difference between nations is very brilliant!!!

@gthang91582 15 лет назад

This is a dangerous assumption that people make: comparing apples to oranges, so to speak. Your assertion implies a total disregard for an anthropological understanding of Cuba. Cuba is COMPLETELY different that China. Though they both may be characterized as "communist," China has a wildly different economy/culture than Cuba. There has been no interest, under the rule of Fidel Castro, for Cuba to become a manufacturing powerhouse. He's quite content on keeping the country stuck in 1955.

@ElDeclan 15 лет назад

There isn't anything really wrong with capitalism, so long as it's controlled and regulated properly. Without capitalism, there would be no property rights, no democracy, and very little progress. But we still need to challenge the over-acceptance of capitalism; you have a good point, we need a more socialist out-look, but, at the same time, a combination of capitalism and social/communism would be a phenomenal idea.

@kaunas888 11 лет назад

The idea of introducing a forms of voluntary colonialism is probably Romer´s best idea. The Chinese are already doing so in Africa and having the most success there since real colonialism. It is obvious that third world countries are incapable of successfully governing themselves, and need 1st world management to improve their lot. The only problem is dealing with the envy from the rest of the country when the precolonial states take off leaving the rest of the country behind.

@osvansalinas1141 6 лет назад

kaunas888 that envy needs to be channeled into imitation then competition and hard work.

@thpt 15 лет назад

Dr. Romer never actually discusses how to FEED these billions of new people in new cities in deserts/mountains/other uninhabited (for good reason) places. *eyeroll*

@ingaman 12 лет назад

Colonialism is what brought Africa to where it is today! We need to send more NGOs over there. Obviously their government is corrupt. Every third world government is corrupt!

@adrianrg75 2 года назад

This is nothing new. This is just neoclassical restatement of what classical liberals and libertarians have been calling for for centuries. But, obviously, he avoided to mention the logical conclusion, as it would be, I assume, "too radical": secession. If you want an example of an actual proposal, a much more thought out model, you should read Robert Nozick's chapter "A Framework for Utopia" in his book "Anarchy, State and Utopia".

@jeanpauldupuis 15 лет назад

one thing is for sure: the master sets the rules, and the slaves will obey, on penalty of death. as long as you have the *right* rules, it's ok to have masters keeping slaves under penalty of death. it's ok to live that way. it's ok.

@raizon36 15 лет назад

"good rules" is an obvious euphemism

@LordRelvenous 12 лет назад

Honduras is turning to charter cities as a way to stimulate growth. So it is happening.

@TheVigilante2000 15 лет назад

Look, this desert has no one in it. A perfect place of a new 'charter city'. Forget about the energy, water, food, transportation, its empty!!! Perfect? He has some good ideas, but he is so simplistic in his approach, I cant say I really trust what he is saying.

@ShakuShingan 15 лет назад

I never said India was not growing, my OP was comparing the two countries from the 1950 period to 1975, the end of China's socialist era. The profit rate isn't going to be an immediate indicator of success or failure in the Indian economy because even if it is falling, the sources of labour are constantly being shifted to poorer countries, making it invisible essentially. The rate of profit in India and many other countries is falling, China's may start to fall around 2010 - 2015.

@MrSyzygyG 12 лет назад

"you could use the gains in the value of the land to pay for things like..." - Paul Romer when discussing how to finance these charter cities. Hahahaha, I wouldn't count on this.

@j3ffn4v4rr0 Год назад

He showed 14:00 a shot from his airplane window of the "immense stretches of land where 100s of millions of people could live" on the coast of Africa. There's a very good (and very obvious) reason nobody lives there right now. It's endless barren desert with ZERO value. Any value these people would hope for would be completely artificial, a bubble created by their investment plan and some prayers (probably to Satan).

@giancarlo3000 11 лет назад

Just by watching this video I totally convinced myself that economy is not a real science. It is completely decoupled from the natural reality. He only speaks about arable land without taking in consideration factors like water sources, weather and efficiency in resource distribution. I see that modern economics is the complete oppossite of economy, which is to economize, do more with less, no waste, preserve, not consumption for the sake of consumption and growth for the sake of growth.

@orfeasmusic 10 лет назад

Vere Very nice video! I really enjoy the way you present it!

@comradepinko 15 лет назад

The video begins with an example of a "bad rule", he also points to real successes and a potential Cuban charter city. Did you even watch the video or did you get disgusted after a few minutes and stop watching?

@ShakuShingan 15 лет назад

Essentially, China was a peasant based economy, whereas market based economies were industrialized, without socialist reforms, they would not have advanced fast enough to make the successful switch to market based economy. Take India for example, India was at the same economic level as China in 1950, similar population and so forth, but they directly inherited a market based economy. In comparison, China's policies caused a lead in literacy, innovation and equality.

@Ckomon 12 лет назад

Good observations, stupid conclusion. There is no uninhabited land where new cities could be started, and all "uninhabited land" is part of the natural environment. Existing cities need to be given greater autonomy.

@frankstrawnation 12 лет назад

Why?

@romehalt 14 лет назад

The company he mentioned in Shezhen, Foxconn, is now facing an internal crisis in China because of the huge amount of orders from Apple which, until now cause 16 of their workers to kill themselves because they couldn't stand the pressure. A small price of human lives that is included in each and everyone of the Apple's techtoys being sold now in the developed countries. Think about it when you consider buying an Apple product.

@tukkek 15 лет назад

He actually defined "good rules" as being those that give people and leaders (both of them) more choices... But hey, I'm with you - that is as vague as it gets.

@sigmundklaus 15 лет назад

if nelson has no electricity at home...but has got a cellphone... where does he recharge it ? :))

@jamie-sims 12 лет назад

I really like the idea if it could be used to provide semi-sovereign areas to try out new models of government or economics. However, I worry that it will follow the process of neo-liberal globalisation which has destroyed social democracy - an emphasis on cutting taxes and regulation to compete with other jurisdictions.

@majinspy 15 лет назад

People don't just need land for big super cities. Cities require huge tracts of land for agriculture. For ever inch of urbana there is neccessary agriculture, preferably geographically near the city. Also, Cities can't be built in many places on earth because of how remote, high, low, rocky, cold, or swampy (etc) that they are.

@kaunas888 11 лет назад

The autonomous communities in Spain are not city-states. They are at the smallest provinces. Normally they collections of several provinces which contain many cities and even more towns.

@Doombug5000 14 лет назад

In reply to the currently 2 highest rated comments on this video, after the 'Opium Wars' Hong Kong was 'lent' to Britain, it then proceeded to flourish; by the mid 20th century, the average resident was ten times richer than their Chinese counterparts and 4/5ths as wealthy as the average British citizen. That's pretty phenomenal economic progress. In reply to the other, in poorer countries, people DO flock to cities, for whatever reasons (Dick Whittington ring any bells?) its an observable fact

@ZandXbell 11 лет назад

Sadly, the Honduran government decided to shut down the charter city program because Paul was supposedly "taking all of the credit". NPR's Planet Money did a show on this.

@vikitheviki 15 лет назад

Best win-win situation is to make it all free and available to all without any cost. This is totally possible if we change the rules completely. The rules we have today is there coz we think they are necessary, but they are not. They exists for the sole purpose that there are a few people in this world that wants to own everything and charge the rest for it. We can build any society we want and so far we have done a pretty lame job.

@pred09ale 13 лет назад

Romers idea reflects the typical - narrow - mindset of mainstream economists. The world isn´t flat. His models of endogenous growth theory are good for a broader understanding, but they don´t fit to reality. This regional development "off the drawing board" just don´t operate. There is "no best practice policy" or "one-size-fits-all-strategy" for economic growth. Worlds regions, its economies, societes, laws etc. are different and so they need different and specific strategies.

@Edgrot 15 лет назад

Wrong.....maybe for where your from but I have a PHD in American history, mind you I didn't say US history. I have reviewed and read the laws and treaties and know everything I say about the topic is 100% factual. Now as far as the rest of the world they need liberty and personal sovereignty as well. Some countries and historical venues I can comment on though as it ties into American history.Now I give out facts and if that sounds preachy that's not my problem.

@JBrazosCole 11 лет назад

I wish Paul Romer would go a step further, and not rely so much on "better rules". State nullification will achieve all of these ends without bothering with trying to get the state to limit its self.

@534seeds 12 лет назад

wtf?, it just so happened to be nighttime everywhere on earth at the same time when they took this picture?

@AbeldeBetancourt 15 лет назад

What if we walk in our bare hands instead of the feet? Many people succeeded in life because of that factor, they changed the rules. Let's walk upside down!!

@RealityStar9 12 лет назад

Charter cities are the future but sadly it will take extreme desperation for those in power to give up some power to allow the help humanity needs.

@tarikabaraka2251 Год назад

Paul Michael Romer es un economista, empresario y activista estadounidense. Fue economista jefe y vicepresidente sénior del Banco Mundialhasta el 24 de enero de 2018, cargo que ocupó desde junio de 2016. Fue galardonado en 2018 con Premio del Banco de Suecia en Ciencias Económicas en memoria de Alfred Nobel.

@mongobeetle 11 лет назад

The British East India company used the same strategies to take over India. No matter what language this is nonsense couched in, its still colonialism. Corporations want "free zones" away from western law to operate more freely in, that is what these charter cities are.

@gthang91582 15 лет назад

China is also a gleaming example of what unregulated international trade can do on a society. Swarms of previously rural inhabitants moving into increasingly industrialized zones to work for manufacturers who treat them like robots. Consequently, China has a dwindling rural community, reducing food production for a rapidly increasing population forcing them to start importing. DANGEROUS. You have to look deeper for the real solution. This is a surface solution.

@igorkrupitsky 15 лет назад

When British created Hong Kong they had Worlds best military to protect it... A charter city sound like a good idea only if there is a Supper Power to back it up. I cannot imagine even the poorest African nation to give up its control of an inhibited land and then just watch how newly rich inhabitants make iPods.

@jamesrumsey 14 лет назад

When your new "choice" is predicated on the poverty created less than 100 years ago by colonialism, is that really a good choice?

@DrSpooglemon 13 лет назад

@DesignPunkStudios I have heard of deforrestation and most deforrestation is land clearance for farming(usually livestock). A lot of it is also due to mining for gold, etc. I don't kow what dat you are basing your assertion on but just consider the logistics of importing timber from africa. The fact is that timber used in construction comes from sustainable forrestry. Why sustainble? Because it makes good business sense. Tropical timber for designer furniture, etc. may be a different matter...

@mousers21 15 лет назад

My point is it's all BS. "Good rules" without defining or giving examples or even presenting a basic set of good rules is just a fantasy. Saying we need good rules is also like saying if only we had "good economics" we'd all be rich. It's a fantasy concept with no basis in reality.

@vladsinger 15 лет назад

What's with the thing at the end of some of the TED lectures? Is it a metaphor Nokia uses for "connecting people" or something?

@j3ffn4v4rr0 Год назад

Nowhere did I hear precisely how Nelson would have electricity in his home. Only a plan to further corporatize the lives of regular people...how often has that gone well? Not to mention, this basically abolishes representative democracy, under the guise of "choice".

@igorkrupitsky 10 лет назад

"This American Life" made a segment about this talk called "Some like it dot".

@MrAtowong 10 лет назад

the chinese example is terribly ignorant of the reason why SEZ (special economic zones) work.. chinese have a hukou (passport) system that restricts ppl's movement. otherwise the whole of the countryside will move there... while the prinicple may be sound, the examples are horrible

@SHABAD0O 15 лет назад

Holy shit, some dead guy talked about world domination?! What a totally new and strange occurrence that has never happened ever before in the history of ever! /sarcasm.