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[PAYDAY 2] Can Counterfeit be fully ECM rushed? || DSOD, no exploits 

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Is it possible to fully ECM rush Counterfeit? Clearly this is usually a loud heist, although there are several strategies to stealth for a little bit (2 to 5 minutes), or the clear alternative of going loud from the very beginning.
However, what if you wanted to ECM rush the whole thing? As long as the first cop patrol is kept alive, the assault will not begin, but they still get in your way while you try to lay down the hose, often shooting you and ending the stealth. Furthermore, the heist is quite long (2 minutes for the code lock hacks, then 3 minutes for the drill, and finally 2 minutes for the hose...), so even if you can rush most of it, the DSOD assault will still cause the run to fail. Is there any reliable strategy for a full ECM rush?
➽ TIME STAMPS:
0:00 → Short intro: available stealth ranges.
0:35 → Theoretical ECM rush: time constraints.
1:00 → Theoretical ECM rush: cop interference.
2:30 → Theoretical ECM rush: lucky 25% chance, unreliable.
3:04 → New plan for a fully reliable, full ECM rush?
4:51 → The cops arrive.
5:49 → Entering the basement.
6:37 → Laying down the hose ahead of time.
8:39 → Drill about to finish: be ready for the hose.
9:18 → Water starts (90 seconds until shields).
9:55 → Running out of ECM time...
10:44 → Shields spawn.
11:40 → Assault? Or escape time?
12:02 → Money/XP breakdown.
12:10 → End screen!
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#PAYDAY2 #Counterfeit #ECMrush
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Special thanks to Doc, Helmut, and Read, for participating in this rush! The fact that they all knew about the safezones ahead of time made this project very straightforward. Very good performance from all of them!
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Recorded with: GeForce Experience
Edited with: Vegas Pro 12.0
Game version: Aug 12th, 2021 patch (Update 209.1)

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@jdflasky1969
@jdflasky1969 2 года назад
I like how when the two cops find the tied up hostage, the first one reports the tied up hostage, then the second one sees the first one radioing to dispatch and radios in that the first cop needs backup, then the first one sees the second one radioing to dispatch and radios in that the second cop needs backup, and this dumb cycle continues until Marcmb shoots them both
@mr.boxhead4075
@mr.boxhead4075 2 года назад
8:28 I know who isn't going to be a part of the next video
@gamerboy244
@gamerboy244 2 года назад
"1, 2, 5 or even 10 minutes." I've never stealthed it for any less than 2 hours.
@Commrade-DOGE
@Commrade-DOGE 2 года назад
Money printer go: brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr *need ink* brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr *need paper* brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
@officialgamet7712
@officialgamet7712 2 года назад
This truly is a unique ecm rush. What else will u rush with ecms
@ZachariusStorkanus
@ZachariusStorkanus 2 года назад
Ecm divorce rush
@alt1763
@alt1763 2 года назад
ecm rushing phd's
@cumcer6140
@cumcer6140 Год назад
Heat street
@theofficialdoc_313
@theofficialdoc_313 2 года назад
Wow, never this early! :D But another pleasure to record with you, Read and Helmut! EDIT: 3:27, loved that little look I gave you. Almost like a "Can I help you?" hahah
@theofficialdoc_313
@theofficialdoc_313 2 года назад
@Helmut We meet again. Any news? How's Cookie and H3ll holding up? We'll make this a catch-up reply section LOL.
@theofficialdoc_313
@theofficialdoc_313 2 года назад
@Helmut That's good to hear! Hope all are well!
@ilovewizard
@ilovewizard 2 года назад
Anyone here play Salary Time the second installment?
@theofficialdoc_313
@theofficialdoc_313 2 года назад
@@ilovewizard Trust me, I'm never this early to reply. But no, Helmut does though! ... :D
@ilovewizard
@ilovewizard 2 года назад
@Helmut i dont believe you proove it
@samb1532
@samb1532 2 года назад
Once again, counterfeit is ripped open despite the dev's insistence on making it a loud heist. Congrats, this looks like a really good ecm rush. I'm hoping the mechanic stays around in some capacity for P3, but maybe not as dominant as an option for stealth.
@TeemoQuinton
@TeemoQuinton Год назад
I juat hope pagers get reworked so you're not forced to ECM rush for most thingd
@MSFLegion
@MSFLegion 2 года назад
I really love watching Marcmb do these ECM rushes there very satisfying to watch I can't wait for payday 3 and all the ECM Rushing he'll be doing
@Mr.Slinky
@Mr.Slinky 2 года назад
Assuming ECMs exist in PD3. Remember, in payday the heist there was only ammo, medic, sentry and trip mines
@crassianleviathan6187
@crassianleviathan6187 2 года назад
@@Mr.Slinky It's evolving... Just backwards
@the_officials38
@the_officials38 2 года назад
I think the 1 bodybag trick is easier and soloable, without the risk of failure
@mauer1
@mauer1 2 года назад
damn you dont know me. Ive already failed the body bag trick so many times it isnt funny anymore xD luring the 2nd cop is so difficult with low detection rate sometimes.
@the_officials38
@the_officials38 2 года назад
@@mauer1 As the video said, if you're under 20 detection you might experience problems
@nasm8109
@nasm8109 2 года назад
wait it still works?
@the_officials38
@the_officials38 2 года назад
@@nasm8109 Yeah, I did it to get thte basement dwellers achievement
@nasm8109
@nasm8109 2 года назад
@@the_officials38 how do u even get the bag up there? I tried so many times, it’s like it’s been blocked off my payday
@eimerhegel427
@eimerhegel427 2 года назад
Marc: please guys don't break it… His friend: missclick
@vicenzofonsecademellosouza2849
@vicenzofonsecademellosouza2849 2 года назад
Clicked on this notification with amazing speed xD
@vesk4000
@vesk4000 2 года назад
I mean, of course an ECM rush is possible, since you have made the video, but still I'm amazed at your impressive and clever strategies
@zemonsim
@zemonsim 2 года назад
8:34 yea I would totally kick someone that stops the music when he runs out of ECMs
@ArthurSuen91
@ArthurSuen91 2 года назад
Excellent plan. now let see if overkill figure out new countermeasures to your countermeasures on their latest countermeasures to prevent stealthing counterfeit.
@eaeaeeaeae8238
@eaeaeeaeae8238 2 года назад
Ecm is the most powerful speedrunning tool, while also being stealthy. This is truly impressive
@mypleasureman7823
@mypleasureman7823 2 года назад
litterally blew my mind when seeing your crew doing this
@dreamer1206
@dreamer1206 2 года назад
Thats crazy! When i read the tittle i thought you went mad
@dragonboi2067
@dragonboi2067 2 года назад
7:27 comedy gold
@cottoneyejoe8285
@cottoneyejoe8285 2 года назад
You always amaze me mate. I was thinking "he has 2 mins on the hose and like a minute 42 on the ecms. No way it'll work." I ate my words
@LegoAlex99
@LegoAlex99 2 года назад
In the words of Dallas Fantastic! Just fantastic!
@YourFavoriteVampireSuccubus
@YourFavoriteVampireSuccubus 2 года назад
Was thinking this yesterday too, you read my mind
@thepurplepikmin7513
@thepurplepikmin7513 2 года назад
I love this game the cops spend 6 minutes trying to call for back up and just leave a tied up lady on the ground
@friedteto
@friedteto 2 года назад
Welp nice method, and great way to get the Achivments XD
@sebas_x23
@sebas_x23 2 года назад
Here always chief! ^ ^
@shrimpboom8
@shrimpboom8 10 месяцев назад
The real way to answer the phone was to make sure the call never made it to the house all along
@vimal4861
@vimal4861 2 года назад
1000 IQ!
@Abe_Maruki
@Abe_Maruki 2 года назад
Makes me wonder why Overkill didn't just make this a stealthable heist in the first place. I get in the first game stealth wasn't an option, but for this game they should've made a new path for it being stealthable. Maybe make it so the guy who owns the house (somehow forgot his name lol) makes the cash in stealth but you have to answer phone calls or something.
@dariusgavrilescu5035
@dariusgavrilescu5035 2 года назад
Yea just think of Cook off having a stealth side and overwrite that with this heist would be broken af
@NintendoNerd64
@NintendoNerd64 2 года назад
imagine if they had voice lines for trying to call control but the ecm jammer was blocking it, that’s all you would hear
@mauer1
@mauer1 2 года назад
oh damn the poor second cop car
@kappa2454
@kappa2454 2 года назад
nice
@tecneck8669
@tecneck8669 2 года назад
Another chapter in how to "stealth" counterfit job
@hackersource4634
@hackersource4634 2 года назад
Good 👍
@MartinSK44
@MartinSK44 2 года назад
Good 👍
@MannFace51
@MannFace51 2 года назад
What if you did this on a Crime Spree and bought extra deployable for more ECM time?
@maciejstopa9929
@maciejstopa9929 10 месяцев назад
great video but we are gonna take it all tonight from pd1 is better :)
@jamstheshapeshifter
@jamstheshapeshifter 2 года назад
Flames Of Love slaps. Love a good Doo-wop
@gabendorf6470
@gabendorf6470 2 года назад
@Marcmb can't you juggle the cop like you solo juggle pagers?
@Marcmb
@Marcmb 2 года назад
Very well spotted, GabeNdorf! Indeed, that technique that I recently showcased could be used here as well. Very handy!
@TacBans
@TacBans 2 года назад
10:40 entire reason why you should do it. So far, i've gotten - Church of Scientology - Pizza place - Bodhi's Pool Repair (ironic) i guess that one's a reference to Undercover, Taxman's called Mr. Sturr.
@siwyr6560
@siwyr6560 2 года назад
U can use this in crime spree
@mauer1
@mauer1 2 года назад
you can also just stuck them with 1 or 2 body bags
@TheTSense
@TheTSense 2 года назад
The only thing I want to know is how to stealth this heist in Payday 1
@h3llcruizzer739
@h3llcruizzer739 2 года назад
wonder what you'll come up with next. Maybe a way to do this heist in loud? :O
@MartinSK44
@MartinSK44 2 года назад
No Marc doing loud would be like if Kevkild started making stealth guides :D
@mateusz92380
@mateusz92380 Год назад
1:25 There are signs of FREEZE
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Haha that lined up surprisingly well!
@mauer1
@mauer1 2 года назад
you know you never did this mission the intended way because you didnt knew about the phone call
@ent.8764
@ent.8764 2 года назад
8:34 Block him and ask OVERKILL to tag him as Cheater.
@MSFLegion
@MSFLegion 2 года назад
Wait what did he do?
@giulgu17
@giulgu17 2 года назад
The only loud heist which can be ECM rushed. Impressive! Edit: I forgot about mallcrasher but it can also be stealthed so I don't really count it
@mauer1
@mauer1 2 года назад
well technically you can also ecm rush mallcrusher.
@martink9797
@martink9797 2 года назад
And day 1 Firestarter
@mauer1
@mauer1 2 года назад
@@martink9797 isnt day 1 firestarter a stealth though? dont you have to go loud at some point if you kill guards?
@martink9797
@martink9797 2 года назад
@@mauer1 ah yeah you're ight I misread the comment
@martink9797
@martink9797 2 года назад
but I'm pretty sure you could ECM rush it if you were extremely coordinated with when you killed the guards but it would be very difficult
@AnInternetClown
@AnInternetClown 2 года назад
I think that you should be able to fully stealth counterfeit, but as an exchange you could not print any money.
@AnInternetClown
@AnInternetClown 2 года назад
But I know it's just a crazy idea...
@mauer1
@mauer1 2 года назад
@@AnInternetClown well this is the way you know ^^
@AnInternetClown
@AnInternetClown 2 года назад
@@mauer1 I mean like overkill official you know, because if you do it like this you still get the dozers and the alarm goes off, but yes until that moment, this is the way to go
@KPW
@KPW 2 года назад
I've got this track playing in main menu
@ManicObsevations
@ManicObsevations Год назад
"weather the heist should be played loud from the start, stealth for a bit, or full stealth" I'M BORED WHAT DO YOU WANT ME TO DO. IT'S FRICKEN PAYDAY2
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Do all of them yeah! Variety is key to keep this game entertaining :p
@saibot1246
@saibot1246 2 года назад
I wish the Arbiter on halo 2 legendary cloud stealth rush the levels. Sorry legendary flash-back and i have 11 levels left.
@thischannelisnotinuse8446
@thischannelisnotinuse8446 2 года назад
There’s signs of freeze
@vantus727
@vantus727 2 года назад
Just asking, but for the most of the time the cops were completely absent and were not calling even though they were alerted Is it possible to make the rush longer by not placing any ECMs or using pECMs during the absence?
@vantus727
@vantus727 2 года назад
And I also realized they started calling again when you got close were they just out of the range?
@mauer1
@mauer1 2 года назад
@@vantus727 cops can be out of range, though thats seems a little too close to be out of range
@vantus727
@vantus727 2 года назад
@@mauer1 exactly
@dariusgavrilescu5035
@dariusgavrilescu5035 2 года назад
@@vantus727 The thing is that if there is a wall pixel thick they can t see u cops dont hear u soo if they dont see u ur not being detected
@dariusgavrilescu5035
@dariusgavrilescu5035 2 года назад
@@vantus727 also I think it would be possible but its a pretty rough thing to do and if it works without it having to do ur thing then there is no use to it Edit:talkimg bout ur Main comment
@spkoftdvl
@spkoftdvl 2 года назад
Dont make Overkill angry Marcmb :c
@AnanasIsAtYourDoorstep
@AnanasIsAtYourDoorstep 2 года назад
i don't quite see a point in ecm rushing it, if you can just do the codelocks and make the guards stuck afterwards. less risk, same result pretty much unless it's actually fun, then maybe ^^
@mauer1
@mauer1 2 года назад
well it seems a little bit more reliable in a coordinated run (especially with just using a body bag)
@dariusgavrilescu5035
@dariusgavrilescu5035 2 года назад
Well this is an alternative way of doing if ur bored and wanna try something new and it could be the only way to do this almost full stealth when overkill will fix their AI
@mauer1
@mauer1 2 года назад
@@dariusgavrilescu5035 well that the guard has to get to it is somewhat of an intended game mechanic. fixing the problems with it could mean that several other major bugs that could end up as abuseable as gamebreaking
@22TwentyTwo
@22TwentyTwo 2 года назад
which heister where you using? I don't remember who has that voice
@22TwentyTwo
@22TwentyTwo 2 года назад
@Helmut by not playing as him
@22TwentyTwo
@22TwentyTwo 2 года назад
​@Helmut ok...
@haldir255
@haldir255 2 года назад
Question: why do you use the locomotive shotgun over the judge? Just personal preference, or is there some sort of advantage? Because stat wise, the judge seems a lot better to use... Newer player, don't hate me :(
@MartinSK44
@MartinSK44 2 года назад
Hi! The locomotive has a bigger mag and can reload individual shells but it doesn't matter that much what shotgun you use in stealth since you one shot everyone if they don't detect you and it is personal preference
@haldir255
@haldir255 2 года назад
@@MartinSK44 thanks for the answer!
@MartinSK44
@MartinSK44 2 года назад
@@haldir255 No problem!
@dariusgavrilescu5035
@dariusgavrilescu5035 2 года назад
@@haldir255 btw always buy buck shot on a shotgun cuz it gives more knock back
@haldir255
@haldir255 2 года назад
@@dariusgavrilescu5035 thank you, I'll keep it in mind!
@skiller5034
@skiller5034 2 года назад
Yet another ECM rush no one thought possible till Marc's crew went and did it. No Mercy next? :D
@theowindings4692
@theowindings4692 2 года назад
which shotgun do you use for stealth
@MartinSK44
@MartinSK44 2 года назад
Hi! he uses locomotive 12g shotgun
@endy611
@endy611 2 года назад
What mod is it to auto-load your assests?
@MartinSK44
@MartinSK44 2 года назад
Hi! The mod is called preplanned the link is in the description of this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--ZXS1UpjTqI.html
@tngo1234
@tngo1234 2 года назад
What's 10:25 meaning?Doesn't this trigger a gun fire if using shotgun in 5 m?
@mauer1
@mauer1 2 года назад
it means that cops that are alerted for (i think) over 5 seconds will have a 10% chance to fire their gun when killed. you can only get around this with killing them with a shutgun from within 5 meter
@dariusgavrilescu5035
@dariusgavrilescu5035 2 года назад
Death shot means to shoot instantly in pd2 terms and I think shooting from 5m or less is a game mechanic
@tngo1234
@tngo1234 2 года назад
thx you. i never know this helpful info!
@alt1763
@alt1763 2 года назад
@@mauer1 pretty sure its 3 seconds also 5m is the range in which bullet force will actually affect a civ/guard's body movement direction
@mauer1
@mauer1 2 года назад
@@alt1763 could be 3 aswell. probably around the time when they are done shocked and slowly approaching the sus object
@williemedicog2163
@williemedicog2163 2 года назад
Could you solo juggle the cops?
@Marcmb
@Marcmb 2 года назад
Haha! Very interesting suggestion Willie. Indeed, solo juggling could easily be used here, to stealth the whole heist without using any ECMs at all :p
@saibot1246
@saibot1246 2 года назад
7:09 Why you don't kill them? Because of reinforcements?
@allstardevitt
@allstardevitt 2 года назад
2 minutes after they're killed, the assault will start. They don't want the assault.
@h3llcruizzer739
@h3llcruizzer739 2 года назад
as he stated 2 minutes after killing them the assault would start, that's why you want to delay that as much as possible
@mauer1
@mauer1 2 года назад
well yeah, the point beeing is the map is forced to go loud after 2 minutes of the first cops beeing dead. so you cant just kill them.
@saibot1246
@saibot1246 2 года назад
@@mauer1 thanks for the explanation.
@miss_bec
@miss_bec Год назад
Using only PD2's canon, how do you explain the lone skulldozer in the sewer during the escape? Wrong answers only.
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Haha good question! My guess is he thought he was invited to the BBQ Pool Party, but he got lost and ended up in the sewers :p
@KindaBoredToday
@KindaBoredToday 8 месяцев назад
@@MarcmbMaybe he lives in the sewers for 69,420 years and then gets awakened by the payday crew and trys to kill them
@alex_the_animator6033
@alex_the_animator6033 Год назад
999 like
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Awesome! Very prestigious like :p enjoy it Alex!
@TheSalemiLid
@TheSalemiLid Год назад
I just had a thought. Do both cops on the first patrol need to be alive, or atleast just one? If it's just one, why not pull that trick you did with Hoxton Revenge- the cuffing thing? It might be difficult to setup and probably pointless but it might cut down on necessary ECM time and only require 3 people, instead of 4.
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Hey Salemiii! Good chain of thought, indeed :) In order for the assault to be prevented, BOTH cops need to be alive... the devs thought of almost everything! However, you have access to many more tricks, not just the cuffing loop showcased on the Hox Rev rush. This heist in particular is a great opportunity to use _cop kiting,_ which will also keep a cop busy infinitely, as long as you can keep it up. You can find an example of this on my very first PAYDAY2 video (you'll have to scroll down for a bit), titled "Cop kiting basics"!
@Lizard10164
@Lizard10164 Год назад
Very smart, but no both cops are needed alive, sadly 🥹
@jaywebster624
@jaywebster624 Год назад
I say for them to not do it again
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
Never do _what_ again? Sorry I don't quite understand :D
@jaywebster624
@jaywebster624 Год назад
@@Marcmb you know the radio part when you asked Would you kick him for destroying the great music? I made this comment for that
@Marcmb
@Marcmb Год назад
@@jaywebster624 Oooh I understand now! I made this video quite a while ago, so I had forgotten about that :D Fully agree with you in this case, the music was so good!
@L-O_T
@L-O_T 2 года назад
its no way bc if u blow up c4 automatic turn on alarm if u use ecm that no work
@sebas_x23
@sebas_x23 2 года назад
The C4 blowing up is only a problem for stealth printing, but if ur not gonna print then there's no problem whatsoever.
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