Peavey Invective 120 - who is this for in 2021? (vs. PRS MT15) 

I have the invective 120 and i absolutely love it. Its a super versatile amp.

New Soulhenge it’s a good day

Its already been stated in the comments, but you need to crank the post gain much higher than you had it, and make sure the master boost is on to de fizz this amp, it s much more open then.

The Invective 120 is so killer!

I personally love the amp. Knowing that the channel volume affects fizz is a tool once you are aware of it. The pine and v30/Creamback invective cab really makes it come alive. A lot of reviewers have had trouble dialing it. Oddly enough...for me is the easiest amp to dial that I own. People like different things. Cheers!

I've had the 6505 mh and the Invective mh, and I gotta say hats off to the Invective. Such a killer amp. And I don't care what people say, 20 watts is plenty loud for live (especially if PA)

Really like the honesty. This "oh it sounds so great" world needs some honest feedback (not bitter/agressive or whatever, just honest). Thanks for that !

Invective all day man! I have both amps. The invective does take time to dial in vs PRS.

i just got one thing to say: it's just about pleasure. I know plugins sound great, emulation, blablabla, sound great... but just having a big real amp with the tubes, the pots, etc. is just so pleasing. also, does an emulator look badass on stage???

The PRS sound so much better boosted than the Invective. Kinda reminds me of my 5150 Stealth but with more low end.

Wow, your MT15 sounds so good

The Peavey Invective is the best amplifier I’ve personally ever owned or played through besides the 6505. I sold my EVH 5150iii and a Mesa Recto 25 watt amplifier so that I could purchase a Peavey Invective, I got the amplifier here and learned so much about it. You’ve got to crank the post gain to if you want smoother tones and you can also back off of the post gain if you want more of a fizz sound, my dad has a Marshall 410 H that I also tried out before I made my purchase on the Peavey. I’ve had it for over a year now and this thing is amazing it has so many tones you can get out of it and it’s sturdy built! I play a lot of cleans and some blues as well as classic rock then I also play a lot of metal this amplifier covers all of that stuff every time I plug into the Invective it actually inspires me to play more best musical purchase I ever made. If you count all of the boosts on the channels it’s more like a six channel amplifier it’s beast of an amplifier I highly recommend anyone to give the amplifier a listen in person. Lots of low end as well

Theres just so many things to dial in on the peavey. I dont know how long you got the amp for but it'd be interesting to see how you base a rig around it after you have had it for a while (like what pedals and IRs work best), as to dial in tone to your liking

Now I really wanna see / hear your opinion on the mini version

Part of the fizz issue on the crunch and lead channel is you have to mess with the master volume and adjust the the channel volume accordingly. The lower the master volume the more fizz.

I wanted to sell my MT15 but this video brought me to give it a last try and i only can say that I was blown away. It will not leave my house. So much fun to play. Damn hard for such a little amp. After playing modelliers all day I forgot how great it feels to unleash such a monster! Thanks so much!

17:55 is insane haha, extremely spanky and percussive, massive yet tight bottom end and no fizz going on whatsoever.

I’ve had the problem with the fizz too. I found scooping the mids a lot more than you think you should and pushing the treble helps a lot more.

If you want to bring down the fizz you need to turn the post gain up almost all the way and then use the Master volume to control the volume. It also helps to run the amp with the Master boost always on with the Master boost at about 1/4 volume on the back. All that being said, I owned this amp for over a year and never loved it. I sold it a few months ago and I don't miss it at all. It was a huge let down for me.

Lot of people complain about the hiss in this amp, seems like a regular 5150 is a better choice for most

Thde MH version is Highest on my list . Ive never been so floored by an amp that does what i want it to as the Invective.

Great video mate, I’m a loyalty user of hx stomp but sometimes I think that I want a mini amp to have “the real deal” based on your videos I really liked the jet city, and I was wondering if you can recommend another mini amp low cost I’m from the third world (Chile) is very expesive export gear here.

İnvecticw is better i used prs and invective 20 i. İnvective is better for my taste prs is like 50 watt hiss but sonething missing

You’re doing it wrong. Now, that’s not your fault because it takes a little research to understand how to kill the fizz. Peavey messed that up. Turn the post gain up to 3:00. Higher post gain = less fizz. Also I have no idea why people have this thing about an amp having to sound pretty much its best a noon. That’s a self imposed limitation. Dial it in a bit. Don’t be scared of extreme settings if need be. And yeah it’s fair to compare the MT15 to the Invective using a boost since the Invective has an onboard boost. Probably better to use the same outboard boost with both but it’s still fair the way you did it. I agree the Invective has too much gain. A lower gain tube helps. I had to do that with my Stealth 50w as well. Overall, good video. Maybe try it again with high post gain, low master. And again, you aren’t afraid to dial in the MT15, so don’t be afraid to dial in the Invective. 👍

It would be really cool for you to do a comparison of mini heads! Off the top of my head, PRS MT15, Laney IRT-SLS, Peavey Invective MH and Blackstar HT-20RH. Great video and awesome tone with that MT15!!

Low master with post cranked on the the invective = less fizz for the bedroom volume. Did you try that? Watch sonic drive studios video on it.

I've got the PRS... can't beat the price and it sounds great!

Higher post gain settings solve the fizz issue.

Amps are just fun as fuck compared to digital they both sound great but having a real amp is fun to have and tweak

I think your correct for us small size operations type guys - home studio smaller set up - The PRS MT15 is an awesome sounding head - bogner ubershall type vibe to it (Tremonti's tone) great clean channel - to many switches and stuff and the Peavey a bit over kill - The PRS is cheap also big sounding for less money - my next head

Peavey sounds much better to me. It's open and heavy. MT15 sounds boxy and small. I have played MT15, and I couldn't get any good sound out of it.

The question of who needs this in the rioe age of plug ins? I do. I love the plug in sound but the real thing "an actual amplifier" is always better in my mind.

This is an amp for professionals who play live. This is not a bedroom amp. Its for players who are the real deal.

I just found my favorite RU-vid guitar guy. Soulhenge, you slay!

I have the mt15 and can confirm that it does a great job with any high gain sound you can think of.

You also said that you’re using an overdrive with your other amp so what do you expect.

Is it the 5881 or 6L6 tubes version? Its a awesome tone man!

But you didn’t EQ the Invective and you did EQ the PRS… you got the PRS head where you wanted it but didn’t do the same with the Invective… Fan of your channel btw

More videos with that carvin please :D

Amp power isn't necessarily about how loud you can crank it. Its about how little the power section distorts. Even at the same relatively not-loud volume, a 15 watt amp's power section is more saturated than a 100 watt amp. More power = more headroom. So yeah, you can definitely go louder with a 120 watt amp but that's really not the point. Anyway, in 2021 this amp like any amp is for someone who wants to play through real tubes and a real guitar speaker. That's about it. It might not be ideal for anything other than inspiration.

I don't like Fortin Grind/33 at all (TC Preamp types in general) but I tried it with an MT15 and that sound was amazing.I like the MT15 over my Archon for raw metal tones.

Dude, first and foremost, nice playing and great video. Here is what you need for the MT15, a Wampler Tumnus gently tweaked to personal settings. Of COURSE you need to CRANK a 120 watt tube amp to get the most from it. Under say, five, on the volume setting you are not pushing the power tubes. All of the tone is coming from the preamp at that point. The power of the amp REALLY tells you where you have to be on it to really hear it. On a 15 watt amp you need to be pushing 10 watts to REALLY have the voice of it coming through and at 120 watts you REALLY have to be upsetting your neighbors and sonically killing the squirrels outside to really get the most out of the amp as the amp was intended to be played.

It would be for me. I still use analogue rigs for live work.

A very boring amp. I'd rather buy a 6505 and a boost/noise gate for half the price.

It just sounds like its running a bit cold, might be a good idea to crank the output section up a bit to get rid of some fizzyness.

Fellow gear heads, I have a question. If this is THE misha mansoor signature head, why does it sound fizzy and not so low mid focused? Periphery is all about the low mids right? But this amp sounds kind of dull in my opinion. I’m a huge peavey fan, and even I got disappointed by hearing this. Is this a misha/money exploit? “If i say it’s my sig head then all the kids will buy it?” Or is this honestly what he was envisioning when he came out with this head. It sounds 8/10 for my tastes, but i just wanted to have a discussion about it.

Lets be real here, I bet most of us are just bedroom guitarrists, so who the fuck is going to spend 1699,00 € on this amp, when even last week we had a 50% sale in every Neural DSP Plug in? Fuck. I know it's sad, but the reality is that plugins will only become bigger and bigger.. thank god (for my wallet)

As much as I love this amp overall, I get what you're saying about that fizzy sound. It just doesn't feel like it takes up enough space if that makes any sense. Guess it's something with the mids, which is really unfortunate because I've always thought the midrange of the EQ was supposed to be at the forefront of the genre/sound this amp is geared towards. I know Misha uses the Invective as a power amp for his Axe FX when he plays live, so the sound might be a bit more pleasant if it's hooked up to one of those. But honestly, it should sound good as a standalone thing and it's unfortunate that it's lacking there.

Where were you before I bought the invective?doesn’t say much when periphery just uses those amps to power the axe fx 3

Firstly - run all 3 post gain channels WIDE OPEN. Run Master Boost at 5-6. Those 2 hints right there change the amp completely, and for the good. Trust me on this. The sounds you're getting are really bad. It sounds nothing like my 120. Not a big deal, you just haven't had enough time to get it right.

You need to bias the amp manually when swapping different power tubes. Its not automatic. Its in the manual.

Incredibly sick and juicy tone! I hate to be that guy, but was stated anywhere what overdrive is being used and the cab IRs, for the PRS? This and your other videos are enough for me to want to grab one of these. Thanks mate!

You need master boost on and set 0. Master volume 2 and post 7 fiizziness gone;))

Basically a 5150 with a shit ton of extra bells and whistles can’t go wrong with it more of a studio amp really due to the weight or maybe local gigs I wouldn’t tour with it personally but it’s amazing very much the modern metal mothership of tone.

Sounds Good & Nice playing 🤟

I like all the gain and saturation so I need this

I wish you would have compared them using the same boost.

I agree that both amps do sound completly different anyway... but for me the PRS bass is really flobby in some way. I actually really prefer the Peavey. I would have expected a clean cold tone from the peavey. A matter of taste both sound good huh.. :P

I normally enjoy your content but I must say this review was a bit unfair and unprofessional. If you know this type of gear is not built for bedroom use, why go through this type of testing? I was hoping to find an honest review of this amplifier since (unfortunately) there's not much information out there. Seems like a missed opportunity to really inform your viewers.

I don't think this amplifier is capable of biasing itself. Whenever you change your power tubes, you should have the bias checked, even if using the same type of tubes.

No one needs a 120w tube amp.... Secretly I am buying all the valve amps I can get my hands on. 😁

There’s a lot of knobs on it I’m sure there’s a way to get a sick sound out of it, only thing I know is that most people that use a 5150/6505 say you’re not gonna go past 3 on the gain knob.

OMG... That PRS tone is... 🤯🤯🤯 It's almost like you need a 10 bend eq it the effects loop of the Peavey and that's probably why they put the pedal power in the amp.

I bought an Mt15 based on RU-vid videos and hated the feel, it was too mushy and sounded way better in recordings vs in the room. I sold my 6505 for it and missed the sound of the 6505. I even bought a precision drive for the mt 15 and the attack still wasn't as good as the 6505 with a boost.

Great review, I’ve been wanting this comparison for a while. I have the MT15 and LOVE IT! Invective has cool bells and whistles but the MT15 is the best amp I’ve ever owned, and I’ve owned many (Randall Warhead, Crate Blue Voodoo, Peavey 5150 block letters, Blackstar ID100, Bugera 333Xl, Randal RG200, Bugera Trirec, Peavey VTM120, Marshall Mode Four, and Bugera 6260). PRS MT15 wins every battle.

I have this amp. to you comment about the unbalanced volume being a problem recording. It shouldn't be as you should have everything dialed in prior to recording. should all amps be matched if all channels are at noon?? I don't know. I don't know of any that are. Non issue for me as I've never played any of my amps with everything at noon. just my .02 none-the-less a good video. Thanks for the hard work

I personally like the sludgy 5150 type tone because i am used to it cause all the bands i listen to use that type of amp.

I don’t want a process metal tone that every metal album has now . With a 100 watt amp you can get an abrasive but tight metal tone and make it unique to yourself . I own axe efx , plug ins and shit but it’s just not going to give me a sound I want . So I’d still take incentive 120

Hello, I'm not so English speaking and I can't understand everything by ear... Can you please write what a beautiful overdrive do you use with PRS. It's so killer...

I have a peavey invective MH its getting returned tomorrow, despite it being defective I think the mt15 just plain sounds better and I already own an mt15

I have a Peavey Invective.120 and an Invective.412 cabinet for sale as a bundle. If someone want one. 1 Year old Barely Used.

So you lean more towards a mesa/bogner sound. Invective is legitimately just a slightly revoiced 5150. Great video dude!

It’s not fair without using cab to compare

Based on the ‘nature of ‘gain’’ it seems ridiculous to expect levels to be the same just because the knobs are in the same place... good thing they turn I guess \m/ See if your PRS acts the same way :) I doubt it does

that prs sounds godly

2 signatures up against each other!

Hyey mate good video , i wanna know , i want to buy the prs mt15 for bedroom playing with a captor , the captor will only be used for reduced the DB level so i can crank the amp , Did the prs mt15 sound good with the 20db reduction and how the 20db affect the volume , because i dont know the db level of the prs it is 90 db or 80 etc if its 90 than -20db its 70 and that not that loud

right tool for the right job. i would not buy this for the bedroom. you hit the nail on the head towards the end; it comes alive at band volume.

Man the PRS MT15 sounds awesome here... Previously its not interested me tbh.

This amp gets some hate but it’s literally the Swiss Army knife of amps. Your settings aren’t right

Sweet head! 🔥

9:17 still have the drive on - which is why it is gain-y and saturated.

I haven't watched the whole video (it's a little on the too long side for me), so maybe you did it, but about the fizziness, why don't you adjust the treble and presence ? That's why they're there ? Also I thought it sound extremely tight and agressive, very cool. You got some great tones out of it !

Great amp, but sold mine in 3 months and got the EVH Stealth...too many volume issues....and it the fizz gets louder as you crank it. I literally had to crank post, master and engage the master boost to get a decent stage volume. I dont personally think it should even be rated at 120 watts.....seeing the Stealth blows this amp away on 2. This amp would be great in a studio IMO

Noise Gate is the most impressive thing here.... and the MT15

It looks like you give him too much gain;) Probably not the same lvls of gain like in your prefered settings in other amps.

Are you using the XLR out or the line out on the captor?

You cant compare a 15 watt amp size to a 120 amp watt amp. A real metal guitarist keeps both amps.

To be honest, the Invective sounds like a bag of chips. Why does everything sound so thin on 'modern' amps?

I'm kinda mixed, I have Neural Nolly/Cory Wong/Cali/Omega and they sound amazing with my Tannoy Gold 8 monitors. However I have an EVH EL34/Archon/Mesa TC and a Bogner cab next to it. The Plugins sound amazing but playing the amps when nobody is home is pretty next level.

They make a mini head of the invective that might be better ?

This amp is way too fizzy. It definitely needs an EQ on the FX loop to cut out a lot of the fizz.

I love the PRS in this video. It's super chunky and full. The Invective is way too big and full of features I don't need and won't use, assuming I could even find one. Rather have a good plugin chain or a little lunchbox amp and cab emulator. Great video

The price point on the 120 is tough to make people bite IMO...especially considering the competition. The MH seems like a good option at its price point compared to the competition. I love my MH overall. It's not the best amp I own, but it is very versatile and covers a good range of tones.

amp needs to be scooped twice. The hiss sits in around 4k Use 2k for the first scoop 8k roll off Use the empty Fxloop. 32 band EQ

If the TwoNotes Captor is doing what it should, and loading the amp(s) correctly (I think it is) then I definitely don't like that fizz from the Invective, which seemed to never go away, no matter what the settings. Your PRS sounded much better. It's a shame, because the specs of the Peavey should make it such a winner, 9v power, programmable footswitch, 2 x FX loops, noisegate, but no, I'd rather have the PRS.

invective 120 has to be pushing 8 speakers and loud enough to blow your pants off to get that special sound .its hard to get in the studio.

MTS 15 is the winner. And its extremely loud. Not too heavy. Sounds great with all my pedals. Still breaking the tubes in on mine.

Sorry, what was the name of the OD ?

mt15 for me