@Agtren Pedro is on the bottom half-guard for about three seconds, then sweeps gaining the north-south, which the student does not escape. Basic armbar from there finishes the roll with a submission. Good job Master Pedro Sauer!
Carlson Gracie believed in learning to rely on technique and once one understood technique and leverage they could bring back their use of athleticism and strength if they had those abilities. There's nothing wrong with using those abilities, as long as you know when to use them and how they relate to technique. Not using tools at your disposal makes no sense.
@Agtren It's funny you say that. I have had the opportunity to roll professor several times. The first few times, I went balls to the wall trying to beat him. It didn't work. His style forces you to slow down. It's the craziest thing you'll ever feel. He is able to completely impose his will on you. You learn way more by slowing down and just taking in what he's doing to you. Once I started doing that, I learned alot.
@MikeOxlarge41 Exactly. I hate grappling people that go crazy (like many/most new students). It's difficult to train and flow that way. All you end up doing is riding them until they're exhausted; then after that, they just lay there and hold on for dear life. While they're easy pray at that point, it's not as beneficial training.
@Agtren That would be wrong. The entire point of BJJ is to be able to win without using any force at all. It makes you use the technique properly and greatly improves your skill. If you learn to use the technique without any strength you can easily beat someone who has never rolled like this. Sparring this way is the best for improving your BJJ skill. Anyone can go quickly and use a bunch of strength, but the true artist don't use any at all. You would know this if you really trained.
@Agtren I understand that in a realistic situation you would use strength to win. But what happens if you rely on strength in practice? If you ever come across someone who is bigger than you, you will lose. Simple as that. I roll daily with guys twice my size and I try to use as little strength as possible, which gives me a huge advantage over guys who try to use force in practice. The only guy at my gym that I have not been able to beat is 125 pounds. No joke.
@fortanell1 So, technically, what happened here? First Pedro stands up to gain an advantage over a ground opponent. He does not pass the guard right away, but rather settles for top half-guard and stabilizes, controls. He then initiates a basic half-guard pass. His opponent IS a black belt, so the student counters the pass with a reversal.
roll for technical superiority to learn trying to avoid injuries and train hard outside bjj like you're a wanna be navy seal and beat everyone when the time comes. This advice is Free.99
I think I agree with Eddie Bravo. Don't get me wrong, Gracie jiu jitsu is pretty much sacred art, but it does have some flaws if you're trying to learn it for MMA.
@Agtren i see soo many students traying to tap out the profesor not to learn from him at the same time the profesor will make them look foolish,one word ..respect..you profesor wil know if you sparring with technique and respect and will teach you anything you want to know..its the same principle here,not to be an ass but to learn from him...
@Agtren some times a guy shows up super strong with a lot of technique , then it would be a different story ,im 150 myself and toy with a guy 200 up with no technique its a lot fun ,just becarefull dont push it too much
@fortanell1 Every teacher gets tapped out by his students eventually... even the greats. You are lucky to have an instructor that is like an encyclopedia of BJJ. Train smart.
I'm 154 lbs and I've made 260-285 lbs guys tap out. The teachers who were too chicken to roll with the new super-heavy bodybuilder type with 10 years of other MA experience would have me go against them. No joke. It's great not to rely on strength, unless your partner, who is just as or more skilled decides to put some "umph" into it. Which at a competitive gym everybody does. Then you have a choice - use strength or get ran over by stampeding rhinos.
Well, I hope they don't train like this all the time. I can't really credit Pedro Sauer for getting this tap. Sure, Sauer may have a high level of skill, but his student was clearly scared and completely passive. Of course he was forced to tap. This may develop technique, but it's the completely wrong way to train for competition or mma! It's good practice maybe once in a while...
@TheAdrokk You are living in a dream. Jiujitsu competition is exhausting and I know that from first hand experience. The ideal may be to win without relying on strength, but that doesn't mean you are actually supposed to avoid using any. This "sparring" is very light. Perhaps too light.
there is no such thing as sparring too light and with too much technique, you clearly haven't watched enough black belts compete. The best in the world are using about 80% technique and 20% force, how else are 150lb guys destroying 220lb opponents. Hoyce gracie would never have beaten the opponents he did under with your knowledge.
