Penn Slammer 3 vs Shimano Saragosa SW Who makes the best Surf Jetty Pier Boat spinning reel? Sealed

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Who makes the best Surf Jetty Beach Boat Pier reel?
Who makes the best Zeebass or Vanstall alternative?
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@andys.1316 6 лет назад

Pretty much the only 1hr long video from RU-vid that i would watch

@dreyn7780 3 года назад

Foolish.

@davidmoreno3371 4 года назад

I've had the Penn slammer 3 5500 for at least a year and I've used it in the surf it's been banged on rocks, fallen in sand. All I do is wash the reel to remove loose sand and continue to fish. I've never opened the reel for maintenance because it is still as smooth as when I first got it.

@321thach 4 года назад

Yeah those Made in China Penn are no joke

@fadelover123 4 года назад

@Joker Toker yeah true. I had a Chinese made oven one time and a American oven. The American one started having problems after 1 week. The Chinese one had no problems for 5 years.

@bavianbezuidenhout8099 4 года назад

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@pascha9993 3 года назад

China is no joke nowadays 😂😂.... for more information, ask your President

@pissywilly 3 года назад

@@pascha9993 shots fired 😳🤣

@mikemelina7395 4 года назад

I now have two very full seasons of fishing on my Slammers on Jetty, CCC, Surf and Boat: 4500, 5500 and 6500HS. They've been dunked, splashed, soaked, dropped in the sand and on the jetties and with minimal maintenance have had no problems. Perfect. I can't speak for the 'gosa, which I'm sure is a good reel as well, but as for the Slammers, they are butter-smooth tanks. Love the drags as well(I've avoided coffee grounds)

@floridabmw3150 6 лет назад

Prob the absolute best side by side comparison of any product I’ve had the pleasure of watching. YOU my friend are good.

@nyoussef2623 6 лет назад

Great review, I will be adding a slammer 3 to my arsenals.

@kelank12 Год назад

My husband bought it for me after our fishing trip. Great action! So smooth it's like reeling over silk! Absolutely LOVE it!

@dixondjallen6620 3 года назад

Penn has really stepped up their game over the last few years. I use the Slammer III 4500 for snook fishing where I would usually use a reel at least one size up(4500 etc.) It's the truly waterproof and that amazing drag that sold me; 3500, 4500, 6500 and a 8500. And I used to be a die hard Shimano reel fan too. Also the new Clash series are great Inshore reels. Star Seagis or custom made rods... And I work part time at Bass Pro Shop, Daytona Beach and have many other reels to choose from with my employee discount. BPS brand products, I get a 47% discount on BPS made products. So you know where my paycheck goes lmao!

@chrisjones720 3 года назад

Are the 3500 and 4500 technically the same size? Just the 4500 has more line capacity?

@timothylisk7665 4 года назад

I have 30 trips over last year from boat and beach on SL3 4500 almost 200 hours. Just a spray rinse after and oiled a couple times. Has been dunked has been sanded. Performs better than new. Definitely do not notice back slap. Also can pickup on Amazon or eBay at $180. or less if you are patient. One of the best value reels I have bought. Great review. It influenced my initial purchase decision

@radventures887 4 года назад

You my friend should be hired by the top reel companies. Very well detailed with components most normal anglers won't be digging to find out how they work. Hats off sir and keep doing what you do. God bless

@TackleAdvisors 4 года назад

Thanks brotha!

@Scarekrow24 2 года назад

Companies don't want to make a reel that's too good. Planned obsolescence.

@jeffreysumaylo3075 2 года назад

true story

@liamcoleman8244 5 лет назад

Have a saragossa 6000 and 8000, I really am losing faith in penn their reels last a while but they are never buttery like the shimanos, line lay is wackadoodle, and I always get wind knots. I wish shimano put a deeper arbor on the saragossa because it just does not have enough line to back up its beefiness. I’d go with shimano they are just better quality and you dont need to worry about getting a “bad batch” like the penns.

@dixonallen2610 4 года назад

I have four Slammers and a high speed Slammer III 8500. Absolutely great reels. Those drags wow! Thanks Penn!

@TheJollymice 4 года назад

Unbelievable power! Definitely getting the 10500

@edl3063 5 лет назад

Own both gosa 6000 sw and slammer 3 4500. Gosa hands down for me a much better surf reel. Effortless cranking in big tins and fish. Slammer is smooth under zero load. Cranking in big tin or fish requires much more effort and has a slight coffee grinder thing going on. Gosa upgrades...got rid of the factory egg handle knob and swapped out with sustain 10000 circular Eva knob, saving over an oz..and solves for the odd oem egg knob. Also, swapped out factory grease after first season with corrossion x grease and oil., Slammer pluses...looks better, higher lock down drag, and has great line lay.

@saltwaterreeffishing9865 5 лет назад

ed l you are comparing orange to apples, get a slammer 5500 or 6500 the 3500 is to small if you are comparing it to the gosa 6000 sw.

@riccardocarbo2479 4 года назад

Great discussion here, thanks. I got myself that 2500 LL. I really like the reel, overall but I can't get over the spool sitting on such a tiny "shelf" washer on the shaft--as you said, all that pressure has to pile up right there, narrowly. I minor problem I'll say Penn overlooked was the angle of the line roller to the spool of line, particularly when full. It pays off off the spool at an angle wider than the line roller is angled for, so it runs tight against the sharper edge of the roller just before it guides on to it. No likey! That could feasibly fray line or rumple it. My reel lays line biased on the lower part of the spool, even after removing the most shims possible and reeling in tightly. My 2500LL's drag locks DOWN. The only way to take adavantage of that degree of drag would be 60lb braid on a Tuna stick, which means getting spooled after 30 seconds of Blue Fin fury since you haven't the yardage to give it. Impractical as that all seems, it's nice knowing it's there!

@dixondjallen6620 5 лет назад

I really like my slammer III's. I have 4500, 5500, 6500 and 8500. Drags are just bad ass. Never had any issues with line lay or internal grinding under pressure... And i clean them after every use so sand is never an issue. Goosa's are fine reels as well i just prefer penn...

@MongoDAoC 4 года назад

I have a L

@huudinii123 3 года назад

how much is the size difference between the 4500 and 5500? the 4500 to me looks like almost the same size as the 5500...just a little bit smaller overall.

@kresanreddy6809 3 года назад

High quality video, really broke the ice on choosing or making choices between high end grinders. Thank you.

@Al-oe8ib Год назад

Can not wait to see a comparison between the Authority and the Stella

@normanedwards8552 6 лет назад

much thanks for this comparison review I've always wondered which was the better reel.

@zamora3D 6 лет назад

Awesome review as always. I am interested to see what you think of long range reels like a Shimano Ultegra XTD?

@austinlkelly 3 года назад

I second this. I have those and the Saragosas.

@mdgeist472 4 года назад

Also consider when you crank the reel, the main gear will push the pinion forward off of that little base. Plus the shaft should keep the pinion aligned along with the 2 main bearings.

@FloridaSkiAnglers 2 месяца назад

I have battle 2 4000, spinfisher v 5500 and penn 105 vintage never been service for almost a decade . I abused it and sometimes forgot to wash with fresh water and still smooth like new

@kevinturpin7937 4 года назад

Thank you I love the way you break down the whole reel It’s definitely made my decision that much easier it doesn’t say who is doing the commentary or at least I didn’t see it what a great job of explaining and analyzing

@kevinrich2993 4 года назад

Dude you’re the G.O.A.T of reels

@kevinturpin7937 4 года назад

Do you know if this is Alan Hawk ? Every place I go someone has mentioned that name this guy is brilliant

@thebayoudiaries8389 3 года назад

@@kevinturpin7937 He isn’t, but he’s very similar in knowledge on reels and their mechanics. I always go to TA’s videos before purchasing a new reel.

@davidshelton832 6 лет назад

Awesome video. I had written off the Slammer before the upgrades but you made me rethink the Saragosa. But wait, what about the Slammer 3 HS version? How does that compare?

@nicholascapuano9877 5 лет назад

I fished a slammer III 5500 really hard for an entire season (extended dunking on almost every trip, and was cranked underwater on multiple occasions) and had zero issues. I would get home and open it up expecting to find water and would find nothing. Great reel, just with there was a bailess version.

@lachlanoneil8938 5 лет назад

Been fishing my spinfisher v s for a year or 2 now and they are still going strong even tho they have been splashed or even fully underwater almost every trip.

@PhillyJohnny 6 лет назад

Hey man - you put out some great videos. It's nice to just get honest information about all kinds of different products from someone without a bias. Will certainly look to your videos when spending big money on gear. So much to be learned from these videos.....just great.

@christiancml 5 лет назад

Watched the whole video! Great attention to detail. Looks like both are solid designs but the Saragosa is more waterproof. Also I do love the looks of the Saragosa plus have read elsewhere that their warranty is solid. There are guys out there that have messed their Saragosa reels and Shimano sends them a brand new reel. Conclusion, purchased a Saragosa for my first nice reel!

@MrMolderone 5 лет назад

What size you get mate? What are you targeting?

@christiancml 5 лет назад

@@MrMolderone I got a 6000 for surf fishing in the East coast of Florida, USA. We get Kingfish, Pompano, Redfish, Jack, etc.

@stephenTcartwright 5 лет назад

I have watched so many of your videos man. You put so much effort into this channel and provide such comprehensive content. thanks buddy, keep it up.

@dreyn7780 3 года назад

But none of it is actually relevant. For example, ALL reel designers choose to make a sound emitting from the object. Not once do you reference the sound. The user IS concerned with sound. Feel is also extremely important. Designs can be futuristic. You're Supposed to grow into the product. Clearly you're uneducated and unwise. Nowonder you're antisocial.

@mylovebugcat 6 лет назад

Penn Slammer III Sizes 3500-5500 have automatic bail trip Sizes 6500-10500 have manual bail trip

@miamiwax5504 4 года назад

@the truth automatic means when u crank the handle an open bail will close. Manual means u have to flip an open bail closed by hand. An automatic bail can accidentally trip in the middle of your cast and u lose an expensive lure.

@bigdaddyjb1613 Год назад

Just do the automatic delete.

@marcuslarwa9098 5 лет назад

I’m glad u brought up TwinPower, I was really thinking about getting one. Could u possibly do a video on it please. Tyvm new subscriber.

@TackleAdvisors 4 года назад

I know it's a year later...but working on one with the tp sw 14k now

@charliemaddock3459 4 года назад

I bought the gosa 6000 put 30lb braid caught a couple 6 ft sharks on it from breakwall ( casting retrieving big baits) 2 weeks of use ! Now I can feel the gears ⚙️ working when I wind it , still very smooth. Getting the slammer 3 8500 for this type of fishing, going to use the gosa for lure fishing only 👌 . That’s my experience anyway hope it helps🙃

@MrGb4ever 6 лет назад

It would be really interesting to find out for any of the guys that had the drag knob melt on them during a fight how much drag pressure was applied to the reel at that time...I mentioned this on a few videos that compared reels in the same class both in cost and size...It`s impressive that you can spend $349 on the biggest Penn Slammer and it`s rated for 60 lbs of drag...When the 25000 Saragosa is $409 and is rated for 44 lbs of drag...So most people would most likely go for the Slammer because they`re getting more for their money but how much of that drag pressure is really effective within that 60 lbs?..And how long would it last before it breaking down?....If both reels were put through constant pressure of say 25 lbs of drag the Saragosa could still possibly be a better reel because it would last longer than the Slammer even though Slammer is rated for much higher drag pressure..I believe I brought this up with the Stella vs Dogfight comparison video.

@iamajames 6 лет назад

Fin nor offshore 9500 also has 60 lbs drag but at a lower ratio, also much cheaper all can handle tarpon grouper sharks. Seems like a trend to use giant spinning reels to replace conventional gear

@MrGb4ever 6 лет назад

Do you have one or know anyone that does?

@MrGb4ever 6 лет назад

I completely agree and in reality a lot of guys and in most cases aren`t even going to use close to 40 lbs of drag on spinning reels. This video however has convinced me to buy the Penn Torque II for my 80 lb class but I can understand why guys would stick with the Slammers since they have the same drag system as the Torque with this exception of the drag knobs.

@MrGb4ever 6 лет назад

Thanks for the feedback!...I think I`m going to wait for the Slammer to be on the market for awhile longer before I go buy one for myself.

@MrGb4ever 5 лет назад

Coza, do you have a Saragosa and if so do you have to send it out for service?@Coza King

@saltylue33 6 лет назад

got to say your analysis is pretty damn thorough. bravo. makes me feel more confident about my 8k gossa. youve got a new subscriber. keep up the good work

@TackleAdvisors 6 лет назад

Thanks Salty! Glad you got something out of it. Gosa is a tank..I can't wait to see what the next gen brings.

@ajy440 5 лет назад

i just got a slammer 3 for 148 on amazon. was going to get the jdm theory off of j and h cause i saw that one video you posted and looks like such a good reel, maybe whenever i get back from my florida trip ill get another combo and add that to the lineup :)

@FranktheTank319 5 лет назад

My Slammer 3 6500 laid line crooked. I had to change the bushings to the thinner ones that came in the box. After I did that, it was just as nice as your reel. But I love the look of this reel. I wouldn't mind the shimano, but it's not as striking... Get it? lol

@Distantttt 6 лет назад

honestly man lots of people hate penn, i can kinda see why, but the slammer is a amazing reel. you gotta give credit when credits due. great vid.

@TackleAdvisors 6 лет назад

Yeah....spot on.....I wanted to hate this reel because it's an easy target....but it's a damn fine reel.....quality control aside......its a reel priced right and built like a tank...and they swapped out the reel after the bearing failed so their support after the sale is great too!

@Arie-Z 4 года назад

I can't pick! I'll buy both!

@jakelencher817 3 года назад

3:22 your camera shook so i thought my monitor was moving from you getting the drag plate out, thought there was a fourth wall break going on there.

@dixonallen2610 4 года назад

You should always manually close the bail on all spinning reels...

@lenoxcebu6533 4 года назад

We use this reels exclusively for jigging here in Cebu Philippines. I use a slammer 4500 and my friend uses a gossa 8k. I pulled a 58lbs king mac using a 20lb jbraid w/ a 30lbs florou leader on my slammer and the drag was phenomenal. My only issue with the slammer is its cranking power but overall i love it. Still smooth as the day i bought it, no it’s actually more smoother now even after a year and a half of jigging , 16hrs a week for more than a year and still no issues its a tank🤣🤣🤣.

@grinchdavis 2 года назад

Dude I visit the Phil's quite often (pre-pandemic), would love to go fishing with you guys my next visit if possible

@riccardocarbo2479 4 года назад

If I may clarify: At 50:40, you mention the rotor play as being related to the ratio. I'm quite sure that the play comes NOT from the space between the gear teeth (which makes the gear ratio a non-factor) but has all to do with the amount of rotor travel required to actuate enough resistance from the anti-reverse mechanism. So, the handle is not an accomplice. You'd be right about the "six times more play in the rotor than the handle" IF the anti-reverse were under the main gear whereby the rotor's reversal rotation is transfering torque from the pinion to the main gear, THEN you'd get that sort of play, which was true back in the Z-days and lighter SS models of yore. But since the anti-reverse is at the pinion gear, the main-gear-to-handle train bears no guilt in crimes of the un-reel. I appreciate your deep dive with the mechanics/materials. I've been fixing reels since I'm 9 years old and still can't overcome it. Any tips? :)

@jeffsmith8958 5 лет назад

Maybe I’m lucky but I haven’t had a knock on either my 4500 or 7500 Slammer 3. Personally, I like the feeling of a Penn spinning over Shimano, something about it feels very sturdy where the butter smooth shimano just has no feel at all. People love the smooth feel but I like a little feel.

@jeffsmith8958 5 лет назад

Interestingly I now own a Saragosa, Slammer III and a Daiwa Saltist. Different sizes slightly but similar.For what it’s worth I’ll be selling the Saltist and Saragosa and purchasing another Slammer III in the 3500 size or 4500 size. I’ve owned a lot of reels in my life and I’ve never been in love with the Penn spinning reels but the Slammer III is the best $250-$280 reel ever made to me. I personally think it’s a better boat reel by a long ways compared to the others. I’m not a surf fisherman so I can’t comment but the Slammer III for my style of fishing is amazing.

@williama.santannajr.2676 4 года назад

Slammer 3 does also ship with an EVA handle! I switch out to that in the winter months!

@lukphom3727 4 года назад

What’s a EVA handle

@831savageoutdoorsman6 6 лет назад

I don’t have a slammer but I do have a 2 spinnfisher v one Is a LL they do start slugish but but as you put more time they do get smoother

@dwhisel 3 года назад

Great reviews!!! I’ve been binge watching all week. What would you prefer for Inshore fishing in the Carolinas between the Penn Battle DX, Slammer III or the Spinfisher VI? I’m looking at 4000/4500 sizes.

@TackleAdvisors 3 года назад

LOL.......thanks man! I'd get a Spinfisher...Or saragosa SW. Slammer is great...but a tad heavier and clunkier....I've seen some clunky slammers (top and bottom of the oscillation cycle annoying sensation)

@dwhisel 3 года назад

@@TackleAdvisors thank you sir!!

@itvisor1 4 года назад

you are the best guy who I found doing the exact comparison "head to head" by far the best... If I will have tipple like I will do it for you... I do appreciate the work you do for us...

@patrickhershey3134 2 года назад

Thanks for the great review. Best review on these reels that I've seen.

@edbranch3239 5 лет назад

I have to tell you... I feel you have the most informative channel. I appreciate the way you explain the differences between the reels. Very easy to understand! You helped me make one of my better purchases, the TRNX 401. Fantastic reel for big snook In Florida. I just want to tell you, thank you.

@TackleAdvisors 5 лет назад

Hey Ed. Thanks brotha! I hope it treats you well! I've received tons of feedback since putting out those big low pro vids. And haters aside... The overwhelming majority was positive. A couple water intrusion issues but that's pretty much it. Best of luck with it

@timross3275 3 года назад

What line do you have the slammer spooled with? I have been searching everywhere for it to put on my slammer. Bumble Bee look is awesome! Also, where are you, got me hooked and left me hanging. :)

@timross3275 3 года назад

C'mon man,were you at?

@kevinreeeder82 5 лет назад

What are these reels used for ? Boats or shore ?. I can’t afford a boat but I love fishing the Chesapeake bay from the shore

@scottbainetwisted_keel_adv5821 6 лет назад

I recently purchased a penn slammer 3 5500 and man i love it. I matched it with a tsunami elite airwave 11'-0" surf rod for now and it feels so balanced. My son and girlfriends son and I are going to fish hu tington beach state park jetties and surf second week in September and i hope to get another one but a 4500 on a 8'-0" popper stylre rod to thru some biv plugs for red fish and anything else that comes along. I think when i find the right 8 foot rod the 5500 will go on it and the 4500 will be on the tsunami. Thanks for the break down on the reals. I looked at diawa bg and i love shimano. But penn has always been good to me i still have all the penns ive ever bought.

@tidalflatzoutdoors3516 2 года назад

Hello TA , In this new age of ‘ heavy is thumbs down ‘ , why would Penn stick to die cast metal ( some say pot metal ) rather than cmc aluminum or even Ci4 , w the latest materials “Carbon - Carbon” : These Also Having Better Torque Retention Properties ?,,, Just Saying in Curiosity Thank You Sir 🐟🇺🇸✨

@thetylerklein 5 лет назад

Scoob what line is on the slammer? Looks sweet I need to spool mine. Just bought 500yds of 30lb PP but I like the thought of trying a new line...

@TackleAdvisors 5 лет назад

It's fireline tracer braid. I believe it was old stock (still one of my favorites)

@1heinrich1990 3 года назад

For kayaking which one would you go? Thanks for the nice review!

@ethanfarrell313 3 года назад

If personally you with the slammer, the size would be more comfortable and it give you the option for more drag

@1heinrich1990 3 года назад

@@ethanfarrell313 Thank you, I went for the saragosa about 7 weeks ago and loving it. Will go penn next time.

@ethanfarrell313 3 года назад

@@1heinrich1990 that’s good that your liking it

@charliemaddock3459 4 года назад

Hey man I’m really interested in what you said about greasing the roller bearings !! I have always used crc spray after wash down ! But what I think your saying is grease it heavily and leave it ?? Please just let me know what’s best because I would rather just grease all my line roller bearings on all reels and leave them for longer periods and no crc !?

@ابوخالد-د6ذ8ب 3 года назад

Please, what is better, Sargossa or Slammer? My English is poor and I can't understand the video

@VexxJam 5 лет назад

You have the most thorough and detailed reel review vids on RU-vid. Awesome work 👍👍

@sv2296 5 лет назад

I use to watch for info now I watch because I still can't believe some one is able to undo and remount the whole reel. Well done

@ianroddie357 4 года назад

Do you think the gosa or the slammer would be a better surf reel and what size would you recommend for surf, thinking about getting the saragosa 6000 but not sure if it will be good enough for surf fishing. Thanks

@tomreilly6637 6 лет назад

Hi Tackle Advisor. Can you review the Quantum Cabo's - some people say they are great and others say not. Would be good to see one of your in depth reviews against the Saragosa or similar. Thanks. Tom

@jimquantic Год назад

Great comparison, wish we also covered (three way comparison) the Daiwa BG lines

@vaskodimoski5690 3 года назад

How much better is the slammer compared to spinfisher in thr bigger sizes other then the drag?

@jimbo4612 6 лет назад

Own 2 Penn slammer 3 5500 and been up to my chest with 40lb stripers and the reel taking a swim. No probs ever. no corrosion no anything other than the Penn slammer bail closes a tad stiffer which actually helps in the long run if tossing lures. No premature bail closing breakoffs. Fishing bud actually owns a saragosa 5000 and it fucked up on a nice 35 lb striped bass which burned line and locked the spool up. Also noticed that my friends saragosa had damage on the line roller. Penns drag on the 5500 40lb. Hooked a 110lb white sturgeon by accident and the Penn had problem controlling this beast. Penn indeed has no rotor lean. Had ideas that the Penn might be less than penns old standards but pleasantly have found the Penn is solid as hell. Also have had waves splash the Penn over and over and no raspiness? not sure what happen to this one but mine gets put through hell and has never had a issue.

@TackleAdvisors 6 лет назад

It really is a very good reel. As is the Gosa. After penn sent me the new spinfishers. I found one that was missing the hydrophobic coating. I asked penn if it should be there and if mine were retail release..and they confirmed it should be there and that they're pre retail......But 2 out of 3 had the coating....I say that because when i had that slammer....I thought I had messed something up...but I've now seen some penns with a barely there coating...and that slammer i think it was as missing as the one I have here. And that will allow water to get into the ar clutch area and kill that pinion support bearing which is what happened. The day it was dunked..all was good.....same with the next day not fishing it..the third day is got noisey... (saltwater) Penn replaced the reel and it is in tip top shape and back in the og owners hands. Quality control....every companies most important aspect..can be penns problem at times....Vids like this go a long way to push them to focus...(I know they are watching me wit the upcoming spinfisher vids i'm shooting...and when I launch the vid this week focusing on one of their november launch reels. They may get a tad nervous...But it's for the benefit of the consumer..And I don't recall in the history of a retail release anyone has done something like this

@bigbuba16 6 лет назад

Welcome back buddy! Also congrats on the 10,000 subs!! Time to start making some more chedda!

@I_am_archie 4 года назад

I just recieved the slammer III 3500. I hope the knock doesn't drive me nuts.

@DaveMars0 3 года назад

I need a shore jigging reel in combo with a Majorcraft Solpara 1002h 60-100g. Penn Slammer 5500 or Saragosa 8000 or BG mq 8000??

@DbaldetToShuffle 6 лет назад

In the end, it's preference. I have little to no knowledge about saltwater fishing and only get to do it when I'm either in Greece or when the time comes and I'll be able to go to Sweden or Norway (European dude). So, even as a Shimano fan, the next bigger salt-proofish reel I might well get will be the Penn. Feels really comfortable to me looking at the knob too and since I can definitely run into AJs in my favorite area in Greece, that's reason enough to me. Since I lost legit all of them so far. Also, what I was wondering - you talk about your hands being not too big, so how big are they? Mine are about 9in long and not particularly wide and never had issues with big knobs at all.

@sturgis97 4 года назад

Something you did not mention is that Penn does have a another handle that is not metal that is included with the reel

@christophervela5447 4 года назад

Honest question....why don't you make reels?

@BlamBan 6 лет назад

I just bought a slammer 3, I'll see how it is next month when i go back to Bermuda after university.

@cyb3rtiger 5 лет назад

Kaelin Joseph I’m thinking about getting a Slammer.. 1 year later, update me how has your reel been?

@cyb3rtiger 4 года назад

the truth It’s great bro. Really good. The thing is, if you’re used to catching Spanish mackerel, small yellow jacks, or anything around that size really.. you need to lower the drag alllll the way down or else the reel is overkill. The reel is so strong, when a smaller fish gets on you almost can’t feel it on your line because drag isn’t being budged whatsoever. Definitely a secondary reel for boats/inshore/offshore. If you use it as your primary for Shore/beach, it feels great but it’s overkill to anything that you can catch. I.e. Don’t use a gun to kill a spider when you have a perfectly good shoe you can use

@cyb3rtiger 4 года назад

the truth 10/10 best reel I’ve ever used hands down.

@cyb3rtiger 4 года назад

the truth I got a 4500 myself because I needed a heavy duty reel because I like the water up to my stomach when I’m on the beach fishing. But even the 4500 is a Tuna/Tarpon/Kingfish reel. Anything smaller and you’re gonna be reeling in as easy as a commercial fisherman. I love this fucking reel though I’m looking at it right now

@fadelover123 4 года назад

@@cyb3rtiger there beasts. I love mine!

@jacksonherald3405 4 года назад

Hi mate, love the review. I do a lot of offshore fishing on a kayak, so the reels will be getting dunked. splashed and bashed. What is the best choice for me? Cheers

@TackleAdvisors 4 года назад

I think the best bet for a tank reel would still be a gosa... New ones are coming soon... FYI . Not sure how the new one will differ

@dinkmaster8129 6 лет назад

Just for the record, I love your videos man but I got a question. I watched this video a couple times and I noticed that you were talking about the slammer and how far you got it in saltwater and u said it almost got above the spool but for the most part it wasnt dunked much. Is this the same slammer you were using in another video, because I remember one of your reels in your videos had a seal broken on the rotor near the main shaft im not exactly sure of the location where it was at, but dont you think that would compromise the sealing of that reel if it was dunked with a messed up seal? Trying to decide between these reels and a shimano spheros for a surf shark fishing trip soon. I guess my question is if you used that slammer with a broken seal during testing and if you believe an unbroken seal would've greatly improved the slammer's sealing. Thanks for what you do for the community. Team Shimano!

@TackleAdvisors 6 лет назад

Yup same reel same torn o ring under the rotor nut.. And on top of that.. I thought I messed up the hydrophobic seal. Which I recently found wasn't applied correctly and almost completely absent. (it's missing on one of the new Penns they sent me) which got me thinkin that there wasn't an obvious coating there on the slammer 3. The top bearing failed on that slammer and was replaced. Just last week the owner of this slammer told me that the latest replacement was the worst of the now 3 replacement reels...

@BkStar1320 6 лет назад

So now you recommend more the saragosa or do you still recommend the slammer?

@1qwertyrewq1 6 лет назад

I have read that the Shimano Spheros SW comes in JDM and USDM versions, with the former having a lower quality cast drive gear. Do you happen to know if that is also the case for the Shimano Saragosa SW or do they not have different versions of the same model? Thanks for the review please keep it up!

@TackleAdvisors 6 лет назад

The JDM spheros is inferior to the USDM...that's why in the links I make mention of it....Hex handle and something else is lower quality. I haven't seen any cut corners in the jdm gosa

@xerotao 6 лет назад

There isnt a hex handle on the JDM spheros.....

@leonardlucioscordeirokusdr5119 2 года назад

What reel has better long cast Saragossa 18000 or penn slammer iv?

@svolatys 6 лет назад

Hi, I'm choosing reel for inshore spinning and rock fishing. Most of the time will be working with around up to 2oz stickbaits and jigs. Currently considering shimano saragosa 5000sw and biomaster 5000sw. What would you suggest ovee those two reels? I know biomaster is alot lighter but is it as rigid as saragosa?

@vjabonador1067 6 лет назад

For a budget popping setup used for GTs, Dogtooth tuna or Kingfish either offshore or from the rocks, which one would be better, a Saragosa 20k or a Slammer 3 8500HS? The Penn has better drag (on paper), a bit lighter, a higher line capacity, a faster line retrieve and is a bit cheaper (though I can find deals online for the Saragosa 20k at $250-300 if I look around a bit). The main issue that I know with Penn reels is that they're generally too heavy for working a popper or stickbait all day (aside from the Torque), but the 8500hs seems a good compromise without going full Stella or Saltiga. Since the Saragosa 20k (or the old 18k) is generally considered the minimum for GT popping (weight-wise, drag-wise, capacity-wise and reliability-wise), I wonder if the Slammer 3 8500HS can do it a little bit better? I'm saving for a decent, not top-of-the-line popping setup for GTs here in the Philippines (we don't really have a lot of 30-50++ kg monsters you'd see in Oman or Australia, more like 10-25 kg, but there are some), and my local tackle dealer stocks more Penn stuff than Daiwa or Shimano. I'd most likely have to order online for the Saragosa if I do go for one. What would you recommend? I'll also be using the reel for offshore jigging.

@vjabonador1067 5 лет назад

@@baku7478 Yung may stock na Penn Slammer 3? Dito sa Iloilo bro.

@vjabonador1067 5 лет назад

@@baku7478 Yup. Small size lang ang in stock but makaka-order ng mas malaki yung proprietor. They also have the Spinfisher V, no Spinfisher VI yet though. Frankly I'm leaning more to get the Saragosa, but maybe 10k size lang, I found a seller in Australia willing to ship for cheap.

@vjabonador1067 5 лет назад

@@baku7478 As far as I know there's no problem with either method. There are good jigging spots off the coast of the town of Oton with plenty of trevally (mamsa/talakitok) and grouper (lapu-lapu). Trolling usually gets you spanish mackerel (tangigue), trevally and tuna from what I've heard. My personal recommendation though is to fish in the neighboring provinces of Guimaras or Antique, they have cleaner waters and the fish are less wary. You might even find dorado/dolphin fish/mahi-mahi offshore.

@steventhompson558 5 лет назад

First of all, great, in-depth video comparison! Yesterday I was talking with a guy at my local B&T shop who was annoyed that he couldn't get his beloved 7 year old Shimano repaired because Shimano no longer has parts for it. He bought a Penn Slammer instead. This was not surprising to hear about Shimano -- they do the same with their cycling parts. I guess that is what they refer to as planned obsolesce. Shimano makes some really good stuff, but they're constantly changing things. There is certainly something to be be said about change for improvement, but I think Shimano changes just to change -- and then they market that small change as a huge improvement that you can't live without. I have both Shimano and Penn reels. In this case, I opted to go with the Slammer for surf fishing because it is a very competent reel and I want to be able to fix and service my reel should southing go wrong a few years from now.

@geoffcollins2094 6 лет назад

Saragosa 8,000 put a 10,000 spool on it..pack it with hmp teflon grease.. Nice for surface lures poppers etc

@Louis.Rebolloso 5 лет назад

So the Saragosa or Penn Slammer III?

@graemeafek1474 6 лет назад

How is the Saragosa for the beach environment where salt and sand inevitably get to the reel?

@TackleAdvisors 6 лет назад

It's one of if not the best outside of the van Staal zb range of reels

@rtorres3442 4 года назад

Hey bud happy new year. Really appreciate your in-depth reviews on gear. I'm considering both of these as an option for surf plugging here in the Northeast but did hear that the Saragosa's have an issue with line slap against the rod guide in some cases because of the design of the reel foot which seems was designed more for jigging. If this in fact is the case I'll likely lean more towards a Slammer, Saltist or Spheros. Can you elaborate on this? Thanks.

@TackleAdvisors 4 года назад

It depends on the guide layout. In some instances there will be a bit of line slap due to the parallel reel foot.

@rtorres3442 4 года назад

Makes sense. Has Penn addressed the knocking issue you mentioned at 29:00 and is it more of an issue on the larger sized reels? Thanks.

@rabidgp 6 лет назад

One thing I really like on my gosa 6k is how powerful the gearing is. I try other reels and have to wind a lot harder.

@gonimysh 3 года назад

What about the Daiwa BG ?

@rabidgp 3 года назад

@@gonimysh I have 3 sizes of the BG's, 2500, 4000, and forgot the size of the other one. The BG's are not well waterproofed, and this comparison is gosa vs slammer. I have since previously picked up a 5500 slammer and it is a nice reel, have some heavy braid on it 40lb and I can crank in cobia off the coast and use it in the surf with heavy weight.

@gonimysh 3 года назад

@@rabidgp Thank you for your answer but my question is about power. I know that the BG is sot sealed as a Saragosa and in the long run the Saragosa will live longer but what i want to know is which reel is more powerful, the Saragosa 6000 or the BG 4000. I am making you this questions since you have both. Thank You

@rabidgp 3 года назад

@@gonimysh The gosa is more powerful, smoother, and the consider that the two reels are not the same size. Surf fishing from the beach I can retrieve a 4 oz pyramid sinker and rig effortlessly, where the 4000 takes more effort. One issue with the gosa is to be careful to not drop the spool, I dropped the reel once from about 3 feet and it dinged the spool lip which I had to lightly sand so it wouldn't cut the line. The aluminum was softer than I thought it would be.

@gonimysh 3 года назад

@@rabidgp may i ask where are you from? I am curious to know what kind of rods and reels do you use. I live in Italy and for fishing from sandy shores we use usually 4,5 meters rods with big pit reels like the Shimano Power Aero 14000 XSB or the Basia Surf 45 QDA which have large spools for casting far 100 -150 meters using leads 100 - 200 grams. Reels like the Saragosa or the BG are used for heavy spinning and boat fishing.

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@fractalofgod6324 5 лет назад

At 48 I'm just getting into fishing and I'm some what over whelmed by the complexity of it all so I've been trying to study on RU-vid and forums and I stumbled across this video... Man steep curve 😂 I've now subbed as your video was very impressive. Many thanks for sharing your wisdom.

@TackleAdvisors 5 лет назад

Hey Jimmy... You're doing it right. The forums are a wealth of knowledge. I post on Stripersonline.Com as Scoobydoo (and other forums as well) glad you were able to get somethin out of it. You're welcome

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@fractalofgod6324 5 лет назад

@@TackleAdvisors cheers scoobs... Just joined the forum you linked, I'm 40jack. 👍🍺

@0riginall337 5 лет назад

It can be as simple or complicated as you want. Pickup a cheap combo with good line and you’ll be fine for awhile

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@fractalofgod6324 5 лет назад

@@0riginall337 thanks Lee, I'm in a really tight budget at the moment but want the best chance of catching a fish man. Its just trying to see the wood for the trees.

@nicholassabella8338 3 года назад

Penn and shimano should just make a reel together

@jamesmullen6423 5 лет назад

Do you have a buying guide for top of the line spinning reels? Looking into buying a penn torque 2 but can’t find any review/comparison with competitors.

@davesiu680 3 года назад

I am curious to know since Penn Slammer 3 5500 and 6500 have the identical specs but different in size in terms of the body and internals. Does that make the 6500 more stronger and produce more power when reeling the fish?

@tonykomer2997 3 года назад

Yes. The 6500 is a larger frame size where the 5500 and 4500 are same frame size. Bigger body and parts more strength.

@davesiu680 3 года назад

@@tonykomer2997 thanks for your reply

@deerphoria4314 4 года назад

Would you buy a saragosa 10000 and if you wanted a 8000 spool then buy one or buy a saragosa 8000 and then buy a 10000 size spool if needed?

@TackleAdvisors 4 года назад

Did that with my 08 Stella SW's it'll work with the gosa as well... Buy the gear ratio you want and spare spool you want

@duranpillay4221 4 года назад

Are you able to tell us the the thickness of the braid (diameter in mm ) for the line capacity ?

@MaverickCompany 5 лет назад

Dude great video. Watched several times already. What is the line roller of the Slammer 3 made of? Brass? Stainless? Thanks

@TackleAdvisors 5 лет назад

I think it's ti ni coated

@flopsy3333 6 лет назад

Hey man, great video as usual. Can you do offshore / surf rod? what brands worth to look at.

@michaelvitopaa6171 6 лет назад

flopsy3333 shimano tiralejo and penn carnage ii rods are pretty good for surf

@rabbitskinner 6 лет назад

Saragosas have never let me down why would i risk another reel

@fadelover123 4 года назад

Because it's not a risk. I like fishing smaller Saragosas and big slammers

@dannylee3989 3 года назад

You can't go wrong with shimano reels, value for money

@davidcaron714 6 лет назад

Great content. I wonder if Ave copies your phrases in his boltr videos or if it’s the other way around.

@TackleAdvisors 6 лет назад

He's awesome and we think quite a like...I've heard him use a few sayings that i've used over the years......I haven't watched him in awhile and popped him on the other day and heard him use one of my favorites.....get two birds stoned with one bush......

@billturner2370 6 лет назад

You make the best fishing reel videos! Keep them coming.

@allengallion930 6 лет назад

The almighty Scoob is back with another great review! You know your stuff and I've made several purchases based on your reviews. Thanks for all the great info! My 6k and 10k Gosa is still going strong as ever. Still plan on getting a slammer 3 though just to mix it up. I love the handle on em. I am really impressed with my Ballistic LT 6K also several big Tarpon on it and still butter smooth. We'll see how it is at the end of the fall after a few dozen really big fish.

@rebornspirit1047 4 года назад

I have an Issue and hope you can help. My saragosa 6k sw has always had a issue with line lay out of the box. I've changed the shims and still can't find the perfect amount of shims for it.

@vladocamus 4 года назад

Great review! I have Saragosa 8000, and i hear the "knock" every time the spool is going up and down. Is it normal for Saragosa? Ty :)

@TheKingzfan 6 лет назад

As always a great review! A pleasant surprise on a Tuesday afternoon.

@victors8924 4 года назад

Honestly, I have never had any problem with any penn reel. I have always done a proper PM to them. If you always maintain the reels, you shouldn’t have any problem.

@ajcrx0421 6 лет назад

Hello Tackle Advisor, I'm looking to get a new reel for my St. Croix Triumph 10'6" 2-6oz for chunking bait for stripers and blues here on the east coast. Which reel and size would you choose between the Saragosa, Slammer 3 and Spin Fisher VI? Would the new Spinfisher LC hold up to 4-5oz weight being thrown?

@MaverickCompany 6 лет назад

I'm sure it's somewhere in your playlist but...how do you get your parts so cleannnnn???? Water pick? Ultrasonic cleaner? Elbow grease?

@TackleAdvisors 6 лет назад

I use a waterpik and dish soap....then usually denatured alcohol to speed drying. (making sure it's safe for the part)