I attended Southwest Bible College (Moreno Valley, California), which was not officially associated, but was based out of the Assemblies of God. I'm Baptist, and going to Bible College with Assembly of God believers was a great experience. There was a lot of respect shown toward all evangelical positions on issues, but the profs would share why they held the view that they did. I am so thankful God led me there. In Baptist's stereotypes of Pentecostals, speaking in tongues is this huge deal, but it was hardly ever brought up (only in theology class, and only when we were specifically talking about that subject), but the biggest difference between myself and what the school believed that came up more regularly was that I believe in eternal security and most of them did not. But again, it was very respectful, and all scriptures that appear to support both positions were examined, and students were encouraged to believe what they thought scripture was saying. It made me look more deeply into my own belief on that, and come out even stronger. I'm still good friends with several people from there. I think it is healthy for Christians to step outside their own traditions sometimes and make other Bible-believing, Jesus-loving friends. These people enrich our lives greatly. I know the Pentecostal friends I made had seldom fellowshipped with a Baptist before meeting me, and their stereotype was that Baptists didn't believe in the Holy Spirit working in our lives at all today, so l was able to break those stereotypes as well.
You're wrong, wrong, wrong. I am Pentecostal and the doctrine of "lose your salvation" is an abomination of hell and makes salvation by works, self achievement and being good enough or worthy enough to get heaven. BLASPHEMY.
@@barrypatrickius Not at all. You cannot earn your way into heaven. It is by faith alone and even that faith is given to you. But you can certainly turn away. The scripture gives plenty of warnings against falling away. The whole book of Hebrews is to address those who turn away from Jesus with disastrous results. Why the warnings if it can’t be done? The warning over and over about enduring to the end, the warning about having tasted the goodness of God and turning away, the exhortation to ‘hold fast’, the warning not to ‘drift away’… You can’t ever get into heaven by works but you can certainly lose your salvation. I gave my life to Jesus as a simple act of trust in Him. An act of pure faith knowing I could never be good enough to get into heaven and that Jesus is the only way. I had no real knowledge of scripture and just had simple faith. Now I believe you can lose your salvation. So which is it? Am I saved, because people are once saved, always saved, or lost because I believe you can lose your salvation and you (wrongly) assume I think salvation must be earned?
I'm Pentecostal and we regularly fellowship with our Baptist brothers and sisters. Last year we held our jurisdiction women's conference in a Baptist church. The pastor of that church and the whole congregation were very supportive and helpful. Wonderful experience.
@Onebasedboi Hypocrite. Why'd you come and try to lecture me on my beliefs if you espouse not being concerned with other people's beliefs? Stop wasting people's time.
I have to add some info about Chilean pentecostalism that is an autonomous revival, the same was the azuza street and the India revivals. And here because Pentecostalism split from methodism the majority of pentecostals baptize infants and by pouring or sprinkling. We have other differences, especially in worship are very not contemporary and even opposed to modern styles of worship, and also have bishops, and a very ordered structure (from methodism) there is usually a bishop, and sometimes also a president (for legislative issues, and bishop for ecclesial issues), presbyter pastors who form along with bishop the presbytery, the deacon pastors, and then the "under test" pastor, also have "obreros" (worker in English maybe) that are lay "pre pastors", and then the leaders of classes (a form of very small congregations used early Methodism), and also secular leaders like the leader of the chorus, women, riders(like the ones of early methodism in houses, but here in bicycles), young, children, etc. And have annual conferences where people of the denomination can join together in a national or international even, and also "zonal conferences"
And about women they aren't ordained pastor, sometimes maybe deacon (btw deacon is different here from deacon pastor). But when a pastor dies usually the woman have either an administrative power over the congregation, with sacraments administrated by other close pastors, or they receive a salary but other pastor is installed in the congregation
Thanks for sharing. I've visited a couple of Pentacostal services. I was a teen when I visited an Assembly of God service and just recently was invited to record an African American church service that leaned toward Pentacostalism.
I did make a video on COGIC, but it was before my current style, so it's not quite as in-depth as some of my videos have been the last year and a half. Not sure if you have seen it. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3w0GX0setLU.html
@@EssenceofPureFlavor It just depends on patterns of missionaries and conversions and migrations. Where I live, we have both, but the Oneness Pentecostals are the overwhelming majority.
I had a childhood friend whose family was pentecostal. I remember they had a shrine at home where they prayed together. They can marry only the members of their denomination and marry right after completing education or simply once they reach adulthood. What I didnt find here or in any other description of pentecostalism is that women are only allowed to wear skirts and dresses, no pants (unless it is super cold). Or is it only a practise typical for a particular congregation ?
Speaking from my experience attending First Assembly of God, woman can wear pants and I have never heard anything that even made it frowned upon. I imagine that was just the congregation you came across. Also, I don’t know anyone that attends that has a shrine at home. Again, just my experience with a Pentecostal church. Also, we can marry outside the denomination, although at my particular church you have to go through their pre-marital classes if you are to be married by their pastors.
Ty as a 60s scoop protestant raised till I found out about them being just as wicked as catholic & what they have done to my people , I took my children to a United church till they said learning with me by travelling all over Canada doing 4 day & night camps sometimes over a hundred natives from all over stepping back 300 yrs on islands , forests and traditional land in Manitoulin and Alberta men doing there jobs & woman doing there,s some fasting some getting there names and sweats fasting no electricity. I am so lucky to have these memories that many 60s scoop never having anything as both my parents were greatly affected by either the schools my father taken @ 5 and my mothers family all drinkers many loosing there babies to the 60s scoop as well. I love a preacher Henry Gruver for many years & I wanted to know what Pentecost was because of him. As my husband was from a catholic generational political world leader family & the adopted teacher owner whose husband a scottish protestant that let us know the evil of the catholic church & seeing it myself with the Vatican being shaped like a snake with the sickest looking reptilian jesus and \tamus dogon Mary & the Pope calling himself father as well as just seeing the demonic spirits around them as a mother type an x nun let me understand why she left that mistake, again Ty for explaining
@@ReadyToHarvest How well I know about the Oneness Pentecostals. I was part of a "coffee house" ministry c. 1980. There was one such who harassed us with his beliefs on Oneness and on Spirit Baptism necessary for Salvation. We finally had to make a public announcement for everyone to ignore him based on Titus 3:10-11 to reject a factious man after two warnings. He had many times two warnings.
@@ReadyToHarvest "Not trinitarian Pentecostal denominations" No I am in a trinitarian one, that is floating around the idea that it is needed but it seems to be a recent development.
@@ikengaspirit3063 Maybe the pastor or someone else in the Church leadership has changed their position on the Baptism of the Holy Ghost being subsequent to salvation to being the moment one is born of the Spirit (John 3:5) and now that is the direction he wants to lead the Church. I can see how that could happen if a pastor developed friendships with other pastors of Churches that uphold that belief.
i listen to a Baptist preacher but my physical church i like to go happens to be Pentecostal. However, there's no speaking in tongue session during service as some would imagine. I listen to any preaching that's Bible-based and will go to any Bible-based church.
The belief that drinking alcohol is a sin comes from several different verses in the Bible. Proverbs 20:1 says wine is a mocker and strong drink is raging..those who’re deceived by it are not wise (I am paraphrasing that). The Bible also says that if you want to be a leader in life it would be best not to drink alcohol (Proverbs 20-28 somewhere in there). In the New Testament, the Bible says to not be drunk with wine but be filled with the Spirit. Ephesians. It also says that as Christians we are to live lives pleasing to God (Romans 12:1-2; Eph 5:11; 1 Corinthians also says we are Gods temples we are not our own person anymore but His because he purchased us with his blood when we got Saved). Since we are ambassadors for Christ, should we then smoke/drink/use profanity like the world does? Is that representing Christ well? In addition the only time the Bible ever says it is ok to give a person alcohol is when he or she is on their death bed to alleviate pain. Today that is not necessary due to modern medical techniques. I hope this was helpful
I'll help you out. I finished this video. And I'm like Arminian and believe people can fail salvation from this scripture I found Galatians 5:19-21 that when sinning that those who practice such things will not inherit the kingdom of God. Galatians was Paul's teachings, proves it can fail eternal salvation. Grandpa believed he couldn't go to Hell, and Arminians believe he could. I'm against suicide. I was depressed also to suicidal. I almost did suicide as a 5-Point Calvinist. And these scriptures got me more hope. I became more Arminian now from these scriptures I posted on here. I believe people can fail salvation. Loving God is wanting to be useful for him much. What if a person could do that much of his time? And I enjoy working from this. People who enjoy working. When it's more likely to be boring to non-Christians. New American Standard Bible (NASB) Mark 9:33 (V)They came to Capernaum; and when He was in (W)the house, He began to question them, "What were you discussing on the way?" . Mark 9:34 But they kept silent, for on the way (X)they had discussed with one another which of them was the greatest. . Mark 9:35 Sitting down, He called the twelve and said to them, "(Y)If anyone wants to be first, he shall be last of all and servant of all." . This is for Christian world domination. Why to raise kids Christians. God Son Jesus said similarly to whoever is useful the most is the best merited of the apostles. Useful merit for eternal rewards and competition with other Christians. With God Son Lord Jesus Christ faith teaching, people will want to be useful for the kingdom of Heaven, which usefulness happens on Earth and if any other place. We need to help this world as much as we can! This text could motivate, supposed to be Christian people, to do all types of usefulness. Chores, volunteering, grade school, high school, college, and work. Good people, this world needs them.
Lol... This is the first time of commenting that I am asked to comment politely.... It seems like everyone knows that there is only about 2 min worth of comment when it comes to this topic...
I grew up Pentecostal, the only thing I'd say is probably a VAST majority say tongues is necessary for salvation... While, I don't consider myself Pentecostal anymore, this is my only issue with the denomination.
@@haroldbeauchamp3770 Then maybe i grew up around a lot of Oneness Pentecostals. I met a few who didn't believe it, but some of my family were told they were going to hell unless they spoke in tongues.
@@NATNAEL.LOVESU Well, i did as well and like i said in my above comment, my brother and mom were told they were going to hell at our Pentecostal church if they couldn't speak in tongues.
There is nothing else required for salvation than to believe. All else is just works that can not bring you salvation. That's the truth of it. We have missed the mark.
Here’s one right here. Okay I was saved in an American Baptist church but left that church and attended an independent pentecostal church and Bible college. I’ve been saved and Spirit filled for almost 50 years now. By the way, the pentecostal Bible college taught the born-again experience. They taught the same thing I learned as a boy in the So. Baptist church. I fellowshipped with thousands of born again pentecostals.
Oh please, there are saved people from every Christian group, Catholics, Orthodox, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Methodists, Baptists, Quakers, and Pentecostals.
A rather banal - at times deeply liberalised - form of this spirit-revival enthusiasm has become popular among Catholics. Some, though rather few, are indeed genuinely 'charism' led, Father Mark Goring on RU-vid is an example of the genuine sort (in the Catholic understanding of charism = moved by gifts of the Holy Ghost). I fear liturgical dancing, arms raised hippy-hip-shaking, beat-enhanced Peter, Paul and Mary, faux-ethnic folksy, celebrant-entertainer, D-I-Y liberty presentation is the standard aimed for (at its highest); rather more like a 1960's Hootenanny, or a Late Nite TV Chat show, than an actual Four-Square-Gospel Pentecostalised Baptist 'Free At Last, Oh! My God, Free At Last' fest. If that doesn't sadden you, well, it jolly well ought to .. because, in terms of Catholic liturgy, it is a tawdry fraud (the spirit of the times at work, not the Spirit of God). Keep the Faith; tell the truth, shame the devil, and let the demons shriek. God bless. ;o)
So much confusion and man made religions today. Why can’t we just keep it simple like Eph 4:5 or Acts 2:38. There is only 1 God 1Faith 1 Baptism. I remain Apostolic following the Apostles Doctrine. My heart aches for the false prophets who ( just as I ) will bow before Jesus & give account. Mt 7:21-23 I pray I am not moved from the love of God & never return to the pigpen but serve Jesus wholeheartedly eternally
Because our Lord commanded it. You may not need works to be saved, but that doesn't mean you can do jolly well what you want. Faith without works is dead.
@@Qwerty-jy9mj The original reformers, when saying "sola fide," meant that salvation is *caused* only by faith. Works express this faith, confirm this faith to ourselves and to others, and make us more like Christ. All good things that, if ignored, make someone a worse Christian.
@@hyreonk Pentacostals aren't part of the "original reformers" and claim there are no such things as sacraments. All of them also believed in baptismal regeneration, with caveats to Calvin but whatever. There are other issues of consistency with sola fides in full, no matter how high church the denomination is. The most fundamental being something seemingly unrelated to faith which is the denial of sanctification as a _process._ The implications of saying works correlate to faith mean that you can test faith by works, which is exactly what protestants accuse Catholics of doing. If sola fides is true, then the prosperity gospel people got it right, Bill Gates is a model Christian and drug addiction positively means the addict is an apostate. Well, that's not how the faith works, thank God.
The speaking in tongues only happened in the first century to enable the first century Christians to speak another language to spread the gospel to the gentiles. Thus was one of the gifts done away with after the death of the apostles. Why would anyone want to speak in tongues today and what would be the point if this?
Wow. I thought it was supposed to be the Holy Spirit that gives the gifts. Apparently it's you. I'm really glad I began speaking in tongues before I found out I need your permission.
@@arielview6601 It was the holy spirit that gave the gifts to the first century Christians but if you read the accounts in the NT it clearly states that these gifts would be done away with.
@@julielarge6120 I'm so sorry that you have cut yourself off from the gifts of the Spirit. That is unfortunate. For those of us who believe, we know that the Holy Spirit will never leave us for He was sent to comfort us in these last days.
@@julielarge6120 I suppose you are referring to 1 Corinthians 13. This is what happens when you allow people to take scripture out of context and turn it into doctrine. All the gifts of the Holy Spirit will operate in the Body of Christ until that which is perfect/complete appears. Has Christ returned to the earth and set up His kingdom and no one noticed? No! Therefore, the gifts of the Holy Spirit are still available to them that believe. These gifts are for signs, for edification, for comfort and to glorify God. Yes, that's right, they glorify God. Whoever has told you differently, is either a deceiver or a false teacher. It's too bad that you allow yourself to be lied to without even bothering to search the scriptures, and testing those spirits. Be a Berean.
Yes tongues ceased after the first century. When the Church can speak the gospel in all the languages of the world, there's no need for the stopgap of tongues. And, historically, tongues did cease. I don't think God brought back tongues in the 20th-century just to give divine legitimacy to slimeball Pentecostal pastors. And, honestly, anyone who is willing to think gibberish is actual language is a clown.
Assemblies of God are the more civilized and middle-class Pentecostals. I don’t believe in their version of speaking in tongues and they believe you have to work your way to heaven. Believing you can be lost again is the same thing as working your way to heaven.
The Pentecostal beliefs are based upon the three things to be saved, full submersion in water by baptism, repentance, and being filled with the Holy Ghost. If a church doesn’t believe and preach those thing are key to being saved then they aren’t Pentecostal and aren’t going to be saved in the end.
There is only one type of Pentecostal, if a church has any other belief other that that it’s wrong, what I described is Pentecostal, there isn’t another
Women pastors are incompatible with the Bible. Premillennialism is contrary to Christianity. And, their tongues is nonsense. Nope, Pentecostals are not theologically sound at all.
@@Thunderlord1738 the thing is, as a whole he made it sound like all Pentecostals adhere to Biblical Inerrancy and Biblical marriage etc, while only SOME of other denominations adhere to those (and the other half are ultra liberal).
@@SpiritLife Hi! I’m a Pentecostal so I guess I speak from a biased perspective. But I personally have observed a great care taken by the Pentecostal church to adhere to the bible and all of its teachings. Other church denominations that I have attended seem to have a tendency to elevate their tradition and comfort so much that they usurp the format the Bible gives us for praising God. I definitely recommend giving Pentecostalism a look, God bless you all :)
@@nathanlitvin2033 that's been my experience too. I've been involved at charismatic non denominational churches for the past 20 years. I respect anyone who believes the Bible regardless their "denomination" label. But I feel like more and more as the Lord refines His bride in America, the old denominations will fizzle out and more Christians will be united under the Bible alone. Liberal "denominations" will all but disappear. There will be a more clear distinction between true believes and the unsaved
Every denomination has a bad person somewhere in its history or currently. To throw out a major group of believers because of Jim Jones does not show maturity of thinking.
@@ronashman8463 Pentecostals have far more than their share of preacher scandals. But, what else would you expect from a from a movement led by conmen?
The Pentecostal beliefs are based upon the three things to be saved, full submersion in water by baptism, repentance, and being filled with the Holy Ghost. If a church doesn’t believe and preach those thing are key to being saved then they aren’t Pentecostal and aren’t going to be saved in the end.
This is talking about the majority of Pentecostals. This is what they believe. You can decide whether or not you think they will be saved, but the video is accurate. You are talking about Oneness Pentecostals and I have videos on them as well.
The Pentecostal beliefs are based upon the three things to be saved, full submersion in water by baptism, repentance, and being filled with the Holy Ghost. If a church doesn’t believe and preach those thing are key to being saved then they aren’t Pentecostal and aren’t going to be saved in the end.
Pentecostal have been around for over two thousands years. We are the original church. They tried to kill us off. Yet we have come full circle. The church started off with Peter first preaching in the book of Acts. Shalom
