Thank you for the sitdown, Promise. I see I triggered a lot of your viewers 😂😂😂 Anyways, parenting is an emotional topic... but most women are confused, delusional and responsible for most broken families. Kodwa ke most women never take accountability so they'll never fix themselves. My kids are happy. Their moms are happy. We're good. ✌🏽❤️
Thank you for the sitdown, Promise. I see I triggered a lot of your viewers 😂😂😂 Anyways, parenting is an emotional topic... but many women are confused, delusional, and responsible for many broken families because they are too self-centred. And sadly, a lot of women never take accountability, so they'll never fix themselves & their children will bear the brunt of their shortcomings. My kids are happy & healthy. Their moms are happy. We're good. ✌🏽❤️ [Edited update]
Lol I can’t believe how well black men project their lack of accountability on black women. This guy literally says women are responsible for many broken families when we are educated and we can see the stats of fatherless households in South Africa. Also as someone who works in the education sector, I can tell you for free children with both parents, that are consistent in their lives perform much better and go through life much easier than kids whose parents are the opposite. It’s a fact, I have seen this first hand. 😂😂😂 This man finds women from good homes and gives them broken homes. That is ruthless and devilish for me. To show that you are selfish and you don’t put your kids well being first, you said something about your kids being too young to co-exist and build relationships with their siblings, are you mad or are you dumb? How do you not know that the best relationship are fostered from an early age? And no, people are not triggered they are just calling you out on your bullshit. All you are doing is living out your own childhood trauma because your own father was a womaniser and that’s on period! The fact is you won’t get to tuck in your kids at night and read them bedtime stories is sad to me. You won’t get to learn their favourite foods, their favourite cartoons, their favourite smells, you won’t get to experience all the small beautiful things present parents get to experience. You will only be an inconsistent character in their lives. They can’t rely on you for personal emergencies or quick advice because your attention and time is all over the place. Black children deserve so much better. And for fucks sake get a fucken HOUSE for your CHILDREN!
Happiness is the most important thing in every household. We all must where our hearts are. I admire your openess & your truth, thank you for sharing your truth with us & stay blessed.
Penuel is smart but irresponsible in my view. The black family structure is already broken by the colonial system and he is continuing the same thing and making it sound profound. Our black children deserve to be raised by both parents in one household.
@@morutiphutiemmanuelmoloto5444It's that nonchalant attitude that makes our black society crumble today. What ever happened to shaming ppl for simply doing as the wish without any repercussions. We know ukuba many black kids don't have two parents within their households and is resulting in the shit we are seeing in our black communities. I like Pen but I do condemn his recklessness in terms of having many kids with different mothers. I'm not saying he shouldn't do whatever he wants and yes it's his life, BUT he should expect ppl who have different opinions/values then his to criticize him for his actions. That's how you create a strong society by shaming ppl, not watching them do what ever they like because it's there life.
He's such a good speaker, the way he dodges giving direct answers, the "do you pay maintenance?" question had him playing gymnastics. He is part of the reason why as the black community we have broken family structures & such unhealthy family dynamics.
He likes saying on his channel how he does not believe in child support or maintenance. He also says he believes in kids starting to work early. And bragged how his son had a modeling gig at 2yrs old. Of course he would believe his kids has to work cause he doesn't want to support them. My dad would have called him "maak & duck". But what do we expect from someone who is all abt himself. Other men will ultimately raise his kids & support them. His poor kids they deserve better.
The way you're concerned abt support/maintenance, I hope you're not referring to financial support. It's a form of support that is overrated in my opinion
He said "Theres a comfort in knowing that Even if i dont have access to the child, I know that the support structure is a healthy environment", LOL what a trigger because most deadbeats disappear deliberately knowing that even in their absence, the child will be okay and taken care off. Theres nothing special about this guy...I still say Id like to hear from one of the baby mamas...ke sure its a totally different narrative.
No amount of maintenance can ever compensate for a full time, fully present and fully invested parent in a child's life. I believe parenting should never be part time, you are responsible for a whole human being until they can be responsible for themselves. Nothing fancy about single parenting. I sincerely hope his kids aren't lacking in other areas.
Promise thanks for the interview, when i have a daughter i will be showing her this video to warn her against this type of man. I will also watch with my son once he grows up to show him that this isn't how he should be treating his seed. Thanks and you look gorgeous per usual.
Don’t have kids until you’re married, financially and emotionally ready unless you want a stressful life in this economy. He talks like this because he is not the primary caregiver. His baby mamas are the ones going through itt! All my friends including my sister had their kids in their 30s and they’re all healthy
He thinks kids are ornaments to point to. One day they are going to see this. They deserve better& its sad that some girl will volunteer to be baby mamma no 7.
Penuel is really leaving in his own world.He gives me a person who needed counselling and because he never got it,he created his own rules.He isn’t answering questions directly.Having 6 children from different women is a mess because it involves step fathers, half brothers and half sisters 🙆♀️
You are pretty my daughter and I love your voice. You sound humble and look a focused young woman. I'm a retired lecturer and got widowed in 2019. One day I would love to talk to you about my blended family and step parenting. The purpose being to share experiences to young married couples who happen to be in that situation, for example, how I survived my 30 years + courtship and step mothering my husband kids, how I felt after giving birth to mine whilst looking after my husband's before giving birth to mine. We eventually got separated by death, after a beautiful friendship and companionship, having grandchildren from my step children and mine, turbulances ad excitements. My story could cover 2 or more episodes because of age. Keep up the good work my baby.
Are you paying maintenance? Yes or no! Wuuuuu men! 😂 lol “maintenance shouldn’t be about money” aybo izngane zizodla iHomework???😂😂 Men bore me shame… The audacity to say “I’ve withheld sending money at times” Aybo, abafana
Pity we live in a world of social media personalities who preach crazy confused and confusing messages, yet because he says that with good English many who are as confused will be misled. And the truth is he is also a victim of circumstances, having learnt from his father. Now he preaches it like the gospel truth😓
I thank God for my father who told my brothers never to go around spreading their genes all over place and not looking after their kids. My father set the excellent example by looking after his family. I can't stand men who do that, because the children bear the brunt of this problem. I also encountered the same problem, where my ex did not look after my sons, fortunately coming from a balanced home, I raised them the way I was raised, they turned out well. I have no respect for such men. Children need both parents, it is fair on the children so I am speaking from experience.
I hate Nota ( Baloyi) with passion, but I remember him saying " I have both parents and I'm previllaged like that" ....up to this day, for me, that is the most powerful assertion his ever made.....it made me stop and think how lucky I was, I appreciate the little things in life and don't take ANYTHING for granted!
I see a little boy who had a really bad role model (his father). He never had any proper moral guidance. But he's well educated so he tries to intellectualize his mistakes. He doesn't live out his beliefs but finds ideologies/narratives that can vindicate his actions. I hope you find a moral compass, I pray that you find the Lord so you can stop searching for yourself in these different women and stop spreading misinformation. On another note your delulu about some ideal family dynamics kinda remind me of Amanda's delulus on coparenting with the wives.
Lol this guy is just like my baby daddy, Big English ya mahala with no accountability. He needs to stop planting kids nje. Im very interested to hear from just 1 of his baby mamas. So much delusion here.
@@glendakanyane2547Yoh my baby daddy let me raise our kids by myself for 5 years with his fluent English, started being involved after he was diagnosed with diabetes. These ones who sound profound will dribble the life out of you😂 He's a good dad now thou
Just a quick reminder, this is the same man who attempted to create his own religion. I'm glad he abandoned that self-important journey. Reflecting on it provides insight into his thought process, believing he is or was a god and expecting people to follow him. Can you imagine dating such a man? Generally, individuals with a heightened sense of self-importance often believe they are always right, displaying stubbornness and an aversion to correction, typically lacking respect for women. He often speaks in vague terms, relying on his proficiency in English. I mean, who isn't aware that God created the union between man and woman, commonly referred to as marriage? While culture has evolved, many family principles still hold true today. Refer to your Bible, folks. Marriage goes beyond mere reproduction; it is about glorifying God through the union. Recognize that marriage is ordained by God for His glory, surpassing all the other positive aspects it brings. Therefore, practicing marriage without belief in God can be challenging, leading many to divorce. Anything of God done outside of God is destined to fail. Let me pause here for now. I suggest we delve into studying our Bibles to distinguish truth from lies. ZV ❤
“Sow his wild oats” is an understatement when it comes to this 6x dad to 6 baby mommas😅 Now I get why he was so upset with this Mbali vs Black Coffee saga. The dude was furious, it was like personal for Penuel, now it makes sense hey🤣Before we judge people’s perspective on any matter, let’s check out the roots first. The child support/spousal support is a very sensitive matter to his type.
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🎙️ *Introduction and Podcast Overview* - Podcast introduction with a focus on family dynamics. - Brief mention of the guest, Penuel, and acknowledgment of the sponsor. - Light banter between the host and guest. 03:36 🤝 *Collaborative Podcasting and Platform Size* - Discussion on collaborative podcasts and prioritizing content impact. - Emphasis on storytelling and gaining comfort in front of the camera. 06:08 🌍 *Penuel's Background and Upbringing* - Overview of Penuel's upbringing, academic achievements, and early ventures. - Highlights his diverse entrepreneurial experiences. - Touches on meeting influential people and his truthful persona. 08:56 💰 *Entrepreneurial Ventures and Learning Experiences* - Penuel discusses his various entrepreneurial ventures and the value chain. - Reflections on meeting influential people and the impact of his persona. 16:47 📉 *Business Downfall and Lessons Learned* - Candid sharing of challenges leading to business downfall in 2015-16. - Emphasis on regrouping, starting over, and resilience. 18:53 ⏰ *Biological Clock and Societal Expectations* - Addressing societal and biological timelines, focusing on the biological clock. - Advocacy for understanding one's biological clock and challenging societal norms. 20:55 🤔 *Desired Parenthood at a Young Age* - Penuel's desire for young fatherhood and challenging societal expectations. - Stress on aligning with biological readiness over societal norms. 21:06 🧠 *Views on Marriage and Nature* - Expresses views on marriage and leans towards nature over capitalism. - Discussion on societal focus on female dynamics in events. 23:12 🤝 *Commitment vs. Marriage* - Distinguishing commitment from marriage and critique of historical context. - Emphasis on commitment, service, and provision. 25:42 🌍 *Family Structure and Future Plans* - Perspective on family structure and the goal of a loving home. - Discussion on flexible living arrangements for the children. 27:21 🛣️ *Unplanned Life and Co-Parenting* - Reflection on the unplanned nature of life and importance of support. - Emphasis on co-parenting for the child's well-being. 30:05 🏛️ *Court Case and Legal Challenges* - Sharing a personal court case and challenges in legal battles. - Emphasis on family meetings and potential bias against men. 33:00 👨👧👦 *Single Dad Experience* - Discussion on the experience as a single dad and challenges. - Emphasis on active involvement beyond financial support. 38:10 💰 *Maintenance and Communication* - Complexity of maintenance and need for better communication. - Encouragement for fathers to actively participate in their children's lives. 41:11 🧠 *Perspectives on parental rights and responsibilities* - Importance of education on parental responsibilities for both genders. - Emphasis on fathers' involvement for the child's well-being. 43:00 🌐 *Promoting equal rights for both parents* - Advocacy for equal rights for both parents. - Stress on educating young individuals about parental rights. - Significance of fathers in children's lives. 48:58 🤔 *Misconceptions about surnames and legalities* - Clarification on the misconception about child surnames. - Explanation of legal aspects related to children's surnames. - Preference for both parents' surnames. 53:45 🔄 *Varying perspectives on surnames* - Exploration of practicality of dual surnames for children. - Recognition of cultural implications and suggested alternatives. 55:23 🌍 *Cultural and practical aspects of arranged marriages* - Reflection on historical context of arranged marriages. - Advocacy for understanding diverse cultural practices. 59:19 🤝 *Vetting and transparency in relationships* - Importance of vetting partners for compatibility. - Openness and transparency for a healthy family structure. 01:01:09 🧑👧🧑 *Penuel's children and their mothers* - Penuel has six children with different mothers. - Mothers don't communicate, but children love each other. - Plan to create a shared homestead for the children. 01:02:33 🌍 *Cultural background and family heritage* - Penuel identifies as a Zulu boy despite Suu heritage claims. - Importance of strong family ties and shared cultural identity. 01:04:01 🤝 *Relationship dynamics among the mothers* - Mothers don't communicate extensively, but no issues. - Penuel acts as a core link, facilitating interactions. - Future plans involve creating a homestead for the children. 01:11:00 🌐 *Adoption and communal family concept* - Discussion on adopting women into families for support. - Advocacy for a communal approach to family life. - Challenge to traditional views on marriage. 01:13:48 💬 *Open conversation about complex family dynamics* - Personal story about unconventional family structures. - Advocacy for open conversations and challenging perspectives. - Emphasis on gentle guidance and understanding. 01:18:09 🤐 *Challenges of open communication* - Reflection on challenges in expressing intentions openly. - Acknowledgment of varied communication styles. - Importance of recognizing good intentions behind actions. 01:19:48 🤐 *Importance of timing in revealing certain information* - Timing matters in disclosing sensitive information. - Examples of when to reveal information. - Emphasis on considering the impact and seeking professional guidance. 01:20:12 🤫 *Acceptance of some level of secrecy in relationships* - Acknowledgment of secrets in relationships. - Discussion on personal tolerance for secrecy. - Mention of scenarios where keeping secrets may be acceptable. 01:21:08 🤔 *Understanding the nuances of sharing certain information* - Discussion on selective disclosure of sensitive information. - Mention of situations where revealing details might not be necessary. - Consideration of emotional impact and potential consequences. 01:22:01 🧬 *Future discussion topics and acknowledgment of leadership qualities* - Teasing future topics, including DNA testing in relationships. - Recognition of leadership qualities and impact on perspectives. - Expression of appreciation and anticipation for future discussions. Made with HARPA AI
His viewpoint is so complex. I cringe watching this as a 28 year old childless female. It sounds "good" in theory but the practical aspect of it so heartbreaking. Child bearing is so controversial whether public/private you give birth to a complex individual with individual sometimes your selfish needs limit your childs development some kids need the family unit to thrieve. Never have kids from a place of lack or a place of selfishnesss cause kids didn't ask to be born. You shouldn't bring children to be traumatized by your choices. Yooooooooh
I've just discovered this Chanel love it. I'm already subscribed ☺️. Penuel is the kind of a guy who likes to appear as a smart, intelligent and complex in his views or perspectives. He is so controversial in all most his talks etc. As a listener you must listen to him very carefully 😉.
Great interview as always Promise,I like the fact that he acknowledges his past mistakes, he doesn't know what he was doing. Well, we all wish or want to live a certain life but GOD decides.. Welldone once again and wish Penuel all great things in life..🎉🎉
🤣this episode is an illustration of what society will look like in the future. eish the essence of the idea of a family is be reconstructed so sad shooo
I'm way older than Promise, but I learn a lot from how she sees things relationship wise. I'm married for 17 yrs now but I'm still learning. Thank you. we need more like you.
One of the things I notice abt Pen is that he looks at everything through the western ideas or lense. Like wen he talks abt marriage n property ownership, believing in commitment rather than marriage. But the truth is, in Africa especially in Zulu culture the purpose of wat he calls" marriage" was never abt property ownership,and commitment is one of de fundamentals in african 'marriages.' Also this thing of using English terms to explain or define African concepts n systems is where we confuse things. My point is there might be similarities between the western systems and African systems,but the differences are the most important. So we need to be careful abt generalising as if its the samething...
Penuel is very messy especially regarding the baby mamma situation.😂😂😂 Outside of that I find him very interesting. He's thinking goes against the grain.
I love telling my kids that "Dady bought you this or paid for this and that " so that it is engraved in their mind that he there for them. I know what it does to ones life when knowing that uBaba loves me. I am slso a firm believer that kids should spend time with their fathers irrespective of the status of the parents relationship. Its important for me that i raise kids who would not think they are abundant, of course situations differs because co-parenting is never easy.
A dusty, bandit with an English accent. I have never seen someone dodge questions like this guy. Also, he claimed he had no issue with the kids living their moms but all of a sudden he is in court fighting to keep the kids here. Please man, he is fooling no one.
@nompumelolo hehehehe the nature, biology, then proceeds to lecture about how the body of a woman works. Delusional! This is how you know you are dealing with a redpill nkunzi. Wow! Nick Canon.2.
Pen if the father didn’t marry the mom umntwana ngowakulonina,why will my kids use their father surname if he didn’t pay lobola for me???Imagine raising my kids that are using your surname??You are disappointing me
Penuel has an elevated sense of self importance. Yes, he is smart but even through that smartness, his disrespect for women still shines through. He is a classical example of the kind of men I want my daughters and nieces to stay away from.
Can we have a part 2 of this talk,Pen is always expressive and controversial. I don’t agree with some of his ideologies,though I do enjoy listening to him and hearing how he views life.
His wording may feel some type of way but he's not wrong. Historically, when women got married, the responsibility of their care shifted to their husband. They were to obey him almost as though they were a child. He's not wrong tbh.
@@thatothobejane4674 Nonsense. When a woman got married, firstly she maintained her CLAN NAME, she never became Mrs so and so, the whole Mrs nonsense is patriarchy brought on by colonisation. Secondly, when an African woman got married, ilobola was paid in the form of cattle and land. The cattle was divided between the father, mother and daughter. In a nutshell, women acquired WEALTH at the point of marriage. The women tilled the land (the female cycle is linked to the earth, so when women handle crops the harvest is bound to be better). Men herded the cattle and hunted. In essence, the man brought meat whilst the woman brought grains, vegetables, fruits, seeds and nuts, through this women were able to control the granary and in essence the home, as well as the MARKET PLACE. A woman, a wife respected the man, her husband and submitted to him, because he provided her with wealth and security (cattle and land). Due to colonisation, all that changed. Few men can afford cattle or even land, hence why women don't respect their husbands anymore!
@marymulea4338 Penuel is an idiot who has very poor understanding of African culture. When a woman got married, firstly she maintained her CLAN NAME, she never became Mrs so and so. The whole Mrs nonsense is patriarchy brought on by colonisation.
Hmmm i think he doesn’t realize his thoughts and opinions are based on what life has exposed him to, which some call it childhood traumas. I doubt he would have such thoughts and opinions if he was raised in a different environment.🥲 and the sad thing is he has convinced himself that he turned out okay.
Tjoo....This gorgeous, articulate man is so self centered. It is Him first before anything else. I am for traditional family values and men like him are a definate no no. I pray he does not get HIV/Aids in his quest to multiply his seed. Can someone tell him about soul ties, and spiritual realities of sex please.
Soul ties aren't real People came up with the term to try to discourage polygamy or sleeping around. if you're monogamous and only sleep with 1 person at a time, but have found yourself already having slept with 6 people, you're still gonna have a pleasant life since you were practicing monogamy. What soul ties will affect you?
People who are HIV+ can't pass-on the disease when they are undetectable. Yes, they may still be HIV+, but they can not "harm" the people around them by passing on the disease through unprotected sex or childbirth as long as they take their meds and remain undetectable. There's medical steps that are taken when when an HIV+ woman is pregnant, to ensure the child does not contract the disease.
The second baby mom denied him access despite her knowing HIM OR his family for the LONGEST time i applaud her for not pretending to be happy LIKE OTHERS with this pen method of family building. PEN IS definitely repeating his father mistakes
The 2nd baby mama is just as guilty as a Pen. She willingly made a selfish decision, brought her kids at a disadvantage, and decided to birth children for him, knowing who he is and what he believes in. Let's not pick sides.
Promise wanted to sound smart towards Peneul little does she knows that this guy can talk for days one question is enough, Promise kept on cutting him.
@Godpenuel you are i still love you man, i know you from UJ through my brother when i read one of the books you wrote as uku Khanya kwe langa if i remember well. All that matters is your kids and the mother of your kids comfortable and happy
I fully agree with Penuel when it comes to co-parenting. Both parents have equal rights & equal responsibility. It's unfair to want the man to take responsibility, but dictate which rights they get. On the surname as well, I agree. Whether married or not, give the child their full identity. It's known who gave birth to them, but who fathered them??? Give each black child their true identity regardless of the circumstance they are born in.
We need to scrutinise this mindset this man has as men. For a public figure, he is not showing any direction to the younger men. Anyone can make a child, being a present parent is a different level. Imagine, every parents meeting/ school events his 6 kids only have the mother there? Nor does he “believe” in supporting their mothers financially?
I started following him before he started podcast, he used to vent on social media about his kids and was talking about court processes and men rights, and I followed him because I could relate because I am a father that is raising a baby girl too and his experiences were an eye opener for men nje.
Sometimes it’s ok to only dive in the subject you excel in. You cannot be a doctor, a politician, a psychologist, a psychiatrist, a dancer etc at the same time and that’s what I sense from this guy. He thinks he knows everything 😢 why can’t man like him ask us /professionals who deal with kids who grew up without their fathers how it feels, affect them and their thoughts on this subject. Kids need both their parents especially when they’re still alive. Also not only blaming him alone in this situation, women need to also take accountability and always have higher standards. Why would you conserve with a man who have so many kids and never been married or doesn’t stay with his kids. With all the information we have with just a click of a button and we still failing and damaging our kids mentally and emotionally. And to mothers who didn’t have fathers in their lives and choose to repeat the same cycle, shame on you because you know exactly how it feels growing up without a father while others kids did.
Penuel for me just shows that we, as people view life differently and that's ok. As long he's involved in his children's lives and plays his role as a responsible and present father then personally I don't see anything wrong with that
Penuell is a young man who knows exactly what he wants and stand for in life. Its beautiful hat he respects the mothers of his kids after breaking their hearts shame, hes such a catch. I love the fact that he takes good care of all if his kids wholistically ❤
I had African Spirituality lalela bhuti, African Spirituality must Lead, if you were following Spiritual teachings you will understand your roots and take fully responsibility as indoda yakwantu
Promise please invite your mom to share the story with us, it is shocking but at the very same time amazing knowing how best another woman built a nation. I think there is so much to learn from such stories
I don't agree with the term "children belong to the mother". They don't, children belong to both parents unless the dad has totally abondones his role as a father. Women tend to think they have more rights and they can play games using the kids because of the saying.
Penuel knows the dates of dating and the when kids were born and how long all the events took place. Better than most men in marriages that live with their kids
penuelism,penuelist,i relate so much with penuel,in many ways,ppl who see kids as a poverty trigger have lack mentalities no matter how much money they might have ,just check how wealthy ppl and mentally wealthy people have endless children,they have their reasons and wena u busy criticizing ppl with children,uzosala wedwa ungafuni ukuzala ubengumzali(no shade to those who can't biologically conceive ,an not talking to them )and all that money u working yo ass hard for,your family that can't evn stand u will chow it with your enemies ,who are u doing it for,kids make it all worth it ,u lack,niyalekisha neengqondo zobukoli benu,siyekeni sizale and sisezozala sandisa isizwe nezizwe ,money and marriage doesn't guarantee not having stress ,health issues or you will raise good children ,so many are married but still single parenting within marriage but i guess they vibing with'i would rather cry in a Mercedes than crying while riding a bicycle ',so funny those without kids seemingly have an idea of how this thing works ,ungekalethi muntu lana ku planet earth,Thula uthi tu coz useyingane.
In my tsonga/shangaan family, my paternal grandfather gave my aunts to my uncles and father as adoptive fathers when he wouldn't be around anymore. As it stands, each brother is responsible for his sister Meaning lobalo negotiations and mediation of any sort as a father should. Meaning my aunt is traditionally my fathers firstborn daughter.
im closely following Penuel lately because of his clear and strong views that i have discovered...this guy stands for what he says...wether we agree or disagree with his views
They are 6 in different houses all over the world. A call a few minutes doesn't make you a father or builds a relationship. 1+ 1 = 2. Other men will inevitably raise his kids.
@@beewest5704 he's there for his kids & supports them financially. you don't know his visitation, let's not get ahead of ourselves. the man is there for his kids