When Mayihlome said the worst thing to do is marry for love. I differed. But I think he meant affection. Which is that feeling. The butterflies and stuff. But Love. Love is commitment. Love is choice. It’s a jacket you must put on every day. You don’t marry for it. It is instead a verb. An action you must take everyday. This interview got me thinking. Kudos to Black Pen and Mayihlome!
I think what he was trying to emphasize is love only cannot sustain a relationship. The things that affect our lives on almost everyday and how we view them and how decide to tackle them everyday is what sustain a relationship.... Well that's just my opinion.
@@lehlagaremogadime7494 I most definitely agree. There are other practical things we must all consider when choosing a partner. We sometimes dismiss them thinking affection will be enough. When it really isn’t and won’t be.
@@lehlagaremogadime7494I disagree with him but agree with your interpretation. love is what helps you tackle differences in decision making and the everyday how. The patience kindness etc.
Mayi is a great thinker. He balances a lot of Penuel’s “alternative” views with a more “neutral” view that gives the viewer a broader perspective on things which is how the audience learns. A podcast with the two of them sharing world views would be phenomenal
Hell, this conversation is so intelligent. I liked the insights on parenting and getting married for love, Mayihlome is spot on... Values such as mutual respect and shared goals are vital in sustaining a relationship... Deep thoughts. Greatness and black excellence displayed
Mayi has this crystal sobriety to his views. He presents very calm and healed, an all-round worked on individual(evidently)! I find him grounding. If there is any published literature from him, I will definitely be getting my hands on it. A beautiful sit-down👏
The esthetics of this set is dope the colors and the close up angles too nice, very intermate and engaging well done Pen and the team this is a wining formula when it comes to the look and feel of the show.
Half a mill equipment no wonder your shit clean bro👌. And the aesthetics of the show are simple, undistracting and themed to engage the psyche like a blank piece of paper and the conversation is the writing.
This is probably one of the most powerful pieces of information on the internet; It's so groundbreaking and refreshing, I am looking forward to part 2. Without sounding tribal but we as a Xhosa tribe do not have such profound speakers in our time except maybe those who are political affiliated and as a 2nd biggest tribe in the country after the Zulu's I always wonder if whether we are ignorant, complacent or maybe just not equipped enough and my conclusion is that we are too segregated as a tribe as opposed to the Zulu's who more often than not show unity and solidarity nonetheless thank you Penuel and your team for unearthing these great minds and bringing them to our attention.
This was a great conversation. I appreciate These gentlemen touching on the topics they touched on especially on intentional parenting and black parenting.
This was one of the best conversations ever. I thoroughly enjoyed it. Mayihlome brought all his emotional intelligence on the table. Thank you for inviting him Penuel.
Phenomenal conversation. I felt like i was receiving game from OG’s. Seeing you men armour-down to dissect and engage is extremely refreshing and has consequently unearthed a lot of wisdom and knowledge. Thank you, Men. P.S These are the sort of conversations we would have if you stayed for drinks after touch , Pen 🌚🌚
Great conversation, young aspiring Philosophers, indeed our country has capable leaders. Congratulations Penuel for the Podcast, your contributions are impactful 👏👏👏💪❤️
Waze wakhula Mayi. An insightful conversation! Re. school comment, we also noticed that our local school has done away with mother/father's day. Those are now referred to as "family day" or "special person(s) day". Key progressive changes brought upon by visionaries. 🙂 To intentional parenting and living.
I really agree with this part of Father's day. My daughter's school has got father- daughter movie night and us with no husbands we must look for people to take our kids there. And you have to trust this person as he will spend a night with your daughter
It may have looked like MacG is bashing *Uncle Ruckus* but that has created attention/interest to this channel. I had to come here for the first time to preview the 8K picture :)
Very good conversation. It felt light, like guys just chilling and not an intense discussion. I fully agree with Mayihlome's view on Politics not being a family business, someone cannot lead simply because their parent led.
This is a great interview to watch and listen to. Pen always takes out the best from his guests, he is a genius. Then juxtapose that with this great orator, Mayihlome. Wonderful. I will wait for part 2.
There's more to people than naratives & media. Great conversation and I like the fact that we understand that not all "black" people should be in politics to be excellent.
Wow.. this conversation is awsome, this what men should constantly do, not about bragging about what you have, but you could contribute to the society. I like these young, i can't wait for the 2nd round, you could even make it a round table and gather those young men Pen
The absent father issue is sensitive and it played a big role in my life. Grew up with so much hate for men and my relationships never lasted. I broke down seeing a child brought to our practice for a dental procedure and the dad was there reassured the girl that she is brave and he was proud of her. I was torn apart, to date I do not have a baby. I want my baby to expirience love from present parents.
Have you tried attending therapy? You need to see a professional and heal before engaging in romantic relationships because your childhood traumas will insist on haunting you and causing ripple effects in your life. You may have suffered from the fatherless daughter syndrome (colloquially referred to as daddy issues). It's not your fault whatsoever and you shouldn't feel ashamed, which is why you need to see someone. I will also add that I am glad you have a good sense of self-awareness which is a good start to resolving your past. I wonder if you grew up experiencing mental health issues that are actually probable and justified. This is a very sensitive matter and I am speaking from a position of the same experience. I wish you grace. Please do not be so hard on yourself 😊
Mayihlome is strong and also very profound on his views he is factual, Penuel need to do his research the undertone of Penuel is Patriachal and the disclaimer he is making for loving and respecting black women is not here or there. Can really be possible true that all the women he impreganted were wrong and he was right? Thank you Mayihlome for schooling Penuel of Fatherhood and Parenting .
Damn guys am literally laughing with you guys on them side jokes!! Shout out am not even half-way but am already satisfied but still intrigued to watch some more!💥
iIm loving Mayihlome's views on single motherhood and parenting boy children. His empathy towards us is heartwarming. He understands our struggle. Also his view is so logical especially where he categorically states we are very capable of raising well-balanced young men. Enkosi
Great conversation. i would like to differ a bit with Mayihlome. on the part of presence, a lot of black men are blocked out of their children's lives. Pen asks a valid question when he asks if Mayihlome is referring to our fathers or us. Modern black men want to be in their children's lives, we just have so many sisters giving conditions, if you dare differ with what she deems a great father/parent then you are out in the cold when it comes to your kids. Again Pen is correct when he says, successful co-parenting situations are those where the man complies with the rules set by the mother, otherwise, forget it. As a disclaimer, i have to mention that i got massive respect to Mayi, he is such a great man.
This is arguable. Are the "conditions" necessarily in bad faith? Sometimes, one parent may simply only want what is best for their child's life which could be in disagreement with the other parent. I think it depends. Modern black men are actually improving (slowly but surely) the shortcomings of their forefathers because as society is evolving, humans are becoming more progressive and understand how important intentional and gentle parenting is. We are learning to be more affectionate, compassionate, attentive, and patient. We are understanding that emotional presence is needed greatly for the sake of stable mental health. A hug, a pat on the shoulder, a kiss on the cheek, asking how someone's day was, showing up, being vulnerable and so much more. Yes, black men may be lagging behind as compared to men of other races and that is due to a myriad of reasons, but as much as we acknowledge this reality, I have come across a lot of men who are getting their ducks in a row. It's not happening as fast as we would want it to happen, but I am hopeful we can realize a change one day. We need the present and level-headed fathers that we have to be role models for other men so that they have people to look up to and not end up being ushered into the dark by the many lost souls in this world. Penuel refers to female privilege and I am not sure about that. His examples of what kind of ideals women supposedly expect from men are in themselves morally justified and I think a man or woman is inclined to agree with them. He mentioned a woman not wanting their child to wave a gun or watch porn? Is that a wrong thing to ask for? If a man would expect the same, how would this be any different? In some cases, both parents could be of the same view. I am of the opinion that if something has merit, then both parties should be able to reach an understanding of co-parenting harmoniously as the caregivers of the children. It goes down to also sharing the same values and having mutual respect, which makes this process less challenging and less selfish. If not, you will encounter conflicts. I also think if you feel unfairly treated in consideration, you should then seek legal assistance for a less biased resolution. The other discussion would be people having children that they are not prepared to take care of and this is a serious issue in the black community. We often shoot ourselves in the foot. Apologies for rambling.
This podcast is a gift that keeps on giving. Loved this interview. We have great black men living in our midst. I have no doubt that young minds watching are being shaped to epitomise black excellence. 💛👏
Instead of hating on Penuel's progress, Mac should just hire a creative interior designer so that Podcast and Chill could have a better looking studio other than the yellow "Puzi Juice" aesthetic. He already has a good quality videos. Penuel just came with a dope set up and I honestly don't think he should be competitive while he's already at the top and paving a way for African podcasts. That's very short-sighted for a "genius". Also, he shouldn't claim that Black Pen is captured just because he's a non-racialist and associated with Rob Hersov, everyone is different.
Yho mfana this is an excellent interview. Bravo to you god Penuel. MacG wants to be a gatekeeper and is threatened by other people entering the podcast space but you need to shut down the noise and put a mental block to him.
San'bonani Beautiful People On Parenting, but'omdala can we some how in the near future have an episode, even a series. Cause I believe we are all doing this "life thing" for the children and it is fundamental to have a base as "brown/ people" and a community. As i am hearing the conversation on parenting it hits home, by home I mean Africa and definitely the World at large. We could have our own base of the does and don'ts. For example, is'bhaqo / corporal punishment They is a way in how you discipline a child using a belt to having a parent slap a child, that's just an extension of the how to or in some instances where even the belt is used beyond measure, in a nutshell I feel it would just be beneficial to have such a series in our archives. Lol ngithi ours cause I am family to the show and the movement at large. Ngiyabonga. Happy Sabbath, Bless.
Also those stats in high school "by show of hands how many of you have a father, mother, no parents" That was cruel and mean. We found out we had orphan classmates who would have not wanted to divulge that information. Even me I didn't want the whole class to know that my father was alive but absent.
I like how Mayihlome put its about former comrades leaving the ANC. Trevor is not the only comrade that left but AB Xuma and John Dube died and they were no longer members of ANC
Love is relative Eros/spouse love must always be conditional with limits. Mutual trust, respect, communication and religion/culture are some of the conditions, universal and timeless