I'm currently playing Ace Attorney and I was NOT expecting the game to actually be so heavy handed with the Phoenix/Miles subplot. I thought the fandom just liked a good old rivals to lovers, but no they're actually just like that.
i was the same when i first played LMAO. i just figured it was another instance of fans seeing two men who hated each other and shipping them for no reason. nope. these two are IN LOVE.
@@peachii3124that’s actually my exact thought. and don’t get me wrong, i am one of the biggest enemies to lovers yaoi lovers ever, but even *i* didn’t expect just how heavily they’re implied
@@artsyscrub3226 i’ve read before that the games were based on yaoi mangas, though i’m not sure if that’s true. it’d be really damn funny if they were, though
The Game Grumps' reaction when you learn Phoenix became a lawyer to meet Edgeworth is also priceless. In Dan's words, "This is something you'd only do for somebody you wanted to MARRY."
@@55alegriaMy favorite head canon is that since Phoenix was originally a theater major he got the idea to go to law school for Edgeworth from the Legally Blonde musical
I also love his reaction to Phoenix becoming a lawyer so he could meet Edgeworth again: "you based your whole life, on this ONE GUY? That helped you this ONE TIME? Years and years back? Nothing to do with your parents or your family? No? Just for this one friend you had? When you were in there??? You MUST be in love with him, Phoenix!"
as someone who has never played this game, this is actually insane to me?? learning what these guys' dynamic is was so crazy wdym he became a lawyer just to see the other guy
What i find the best part of all this is that they ACCIDENTALLY made them homo for one another and then when they remastered the original trilogy they purposely made lines GAYER (but the unnecessary feelings line was always there... How do you NOT know what youre doing with that... 😭)
I love when RT accidentally predicts plot points... April May: *exist* Phoenix: She has all the men fall for her! Dan/RTGame: Oh no! This case can only be solve by the gays!
@@X-SPONGED Well, you could count Phoenix too, but T&T kind of gives an explanation by making Dhalia a thing. There was going to be a sprite of Phoenix with heart eyese, but I guess that it wouldn't have make too much sense if by that point he was like "if you helped killed Mia, I will end you!". There is some dialogue that says that he blushed a bit while meeting her, but I don't remember,
Tumblr is always hyping shit up that's subtext (which is fair since there's such little queer rep) so I was like "Well it's probably just very lightly hinted at. Tumblr loves a lovers-to-rivals-to-lovers" But God damn, it's just straight up TEXT apparently, huh
They're genuinely as close to a couple as you can get without explicitly making them canon lol. Iirc Capcom has even grouped the together for Valentines promotional material 😅
@@Puppy_Dough tbh at that point I'd just take it as confirmation like "congrats gays, Capcom says they're gay" and if Capcom tries to argue we go "oh so you're queerbaiting then?" and we get to watch them either stfu and accept the gayness or owe up to the queerbait
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I love watching people pick up on it, it feels interesting and funny because this subtext completely went over my head when i played and i only realized how obvious it was when watching other people play. That seems to happen alot with the games and stuff i watch, im really upholding the clueless gay trope for myself lol
Shenpai: "bro they're so gay" Shenpai: eagerly reading each dialogue Edgeworth: "feelings" Shenpai: doesn't read it out loud at all Shenpai: slams table "HAPPY PRIDE MONTH Y'ALL"
Rewatching this after my first playthrough many years ago, I feel like Maya trying to affirm that its just friendly and competitive makes their relationship look even more suspicious LMAO
She really could have chose any other wordings besides calling them “rivals” but she did and now it looks like that thing in shounen battle manga where the rival and main character are so close and influence each other so much they basically have a relationship over the main character and the designated love interest. Luckily, Phoenix has no designated love interest and the person “closest to him romantically” never loved him and sent a double to do the dirty work.
TCNick3: Realisation Shenpai: Happy Pride month RTGame: "well that was awkward" Pixel Partners: taking this very seriously Save Data: Chat going crazy Game Grumps: gay fanfic ahoy Press buttons n talk: secret boyfriends Joseph Anderson: BFs in law school?
Even better, Phoenix said he wanted to “save Edgeworth from himself”. Yeah, he took his time as he was an art major but he was committed when he got the chance. This is not just a story about effectively gay love, it’s a redemption romance-equivalent arc.
One of my favorite reactions is from Paperboxhouse where Alfred gets shocked, puts on Got To Be Real by Cheryll Lynn and just starts dancing for like 2 minutes
@@Rainy_Astra Is it? *Checks up varios ships* Wright x Edgeworth Gumshoe x Edgeworth Apollo x Klavier Athena x Juniper Maya x Franziska ... Oh yeah you're right
The fact that a few of them got on the "they were EXES" train from the "meet again" bit, it's like. Shu, how did you not realize it sounds GAY they sound GAY they are GAY for each other
The "just fuck already" makes me think of the B99 Monty Hall bit where two husbands are fighting over the answer and one of the characters just goes "you just need to bone"
Maya coming in with the 'They're CLEARLY rivals!' is so the same to me as Nimona in that one scene seeing Ballister's bf and just being like- "Oh! Nemesis >:)"
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@@sweetpea2604 It could be but the creators have also admited they like the ship and the people working on the game have as well so it's likely they did it on purpose for funsies
@@artsyscrub3226 apparently, when making the game, especially the later games, everyone in the team shipped them... except Shu Takumi, the guy who WROTE the dialogue and intended it to be about Edgeworth doubting the morality of his career and about Phoenix wanting to be friends with him again.
@@fizzycolalizzie ah, the classic video every Ace Attorney fan has come across at least once. That thumbnail with “BASED ON GAY MANGA???!?” Lives rent free in my head.
