People forget many things after 7-8 years but when they are ready to harm someone, suddenly people remember even their earliest baby memories That is basically twitter dramas in nutshell
Tbh, this is what I hated on a drama unrelated to this. To not make it vague, its about that Poppy Playtime Controversy. Just part of the small fandom at times before MOB Games was even a thing, just before everything went down where Ekrcoaster decided to tell his harrasment story. Nobody outside of our communities has talked about it. But until 2022, the MOB Games drama just came on a whim in twitter just because of a plagiarism comment of the same creator. Now, everyone just lists down each suspicous and malicous action MOB Games puts upfront just for the heck of it. I'll say this in behalf as it is partially their fault for not addressing this alot sooner 2 years before it happened instead of making it a ticking time bomb, but people really love bringing up just the "Ekrcoaster v Enchantedmob" scenario in front of an arguement regarding MOBGames. Its old news at this point.
@@gabrielheinz6845 there's a difference between "Saying bad jokes 10 years ago" and "Ruining someone's life so badly that they check themselves into a mental hospital." One is a dumb 18 year old saying dumb and bad jokes that they'll proceed to regret 10 years later. Another is mentally bullying and harassing a MINOR because they didn't want to join their hivemind where creativity and fun goes to DIE, making a channel that primarily targets and nitpicks that particular minor's videos whilst disguising it by making fun of your own videos which noticeably ends up having less sins then the one that bullies and nitpicks the minor's video for every single mistake that most people wouldn't end up NOTICING in the first place, then proceeding to use their popularity to not exactly plagiarize but certainly NEUTER the traction of said minor who's now grown up after having to go and check themselves into a mental hospital cause said bullying and attacking caused them to want to kill themselves who wanted to make a game expressing their creativity, and because of said game with a potential amazing future not blowing up immediately but having the chance to, enchanted mob got scared and ended up making Poppy Playtime in order to try to alter the attention from Ekrcoaster to them and it ended up WORKING, and now i'm not even sure if Ekrcoaster is WORKING on his game it's gotten that bad. One is a young adult making a mistake, another is what was essentially a rising business getting pissy after someone rightfully decided not to join their rising monopoly and proceeded to bully and attack them into the ground, forcing the MINOR, the MINOR to check themselves into a mental hospital so they didn't kill themselves, and then proceeding to make Poppy Playtime to try to prevent the now grown up minor from getting any more traction then they wanted them to. There's a difference, a MASSIVE, FUCKING, DIFFERENCE. TL;DR (since i know a lot of people have the mentality of "I ain't reading allat!1!!11!" ; One is about OMOCAT, a single person making a mistake, and another is about EnchantedMob, a business that bullied a minor to the point of suicidal tendencies, and trying desperately to cover Ekrcoaster up every chance they get.
Omocat *did* say some weird stuff in the past, but you can clearly see that she has changed as a person, people need to move on. Edit: Bruh don't tell me i created a whole war in the replies just because of a comment 💀
W you! And by the way I wanted to point something out, most of the people who are clueless of the concept of character development in real people are either Tiktok or Twitter users. Well, that says some things about people.
The thing is, is that the internet was way more edgier back then, and there were a lot of p*dophile jokes at the time as well, for example the p*dobear meme etc.
People (especially on Twitter) tend to just kinda "forget" that when they decide to cancel people for shitty past behaviour. They forget that Omocat made those tweets back when jokes like that were considered perfectly fine, and she has clearly changed since then, but people act as if those jokes were _always_ unanimously considered gross.
the thing i hate most about this is like.. ten years is a long ass time. the internet ten years ago was *drastically* different to how it is now, and making jokes like that was like. still kinda weird but pretty normalized. and even then, do you honestly expect someone to behave the same way they did ten years ago? have the exact same beliefs and the exact same sense of humor? you can still find the jokes weird and gross but people change, god damn it. she’s clearly shown *multiple times* she doesn’t think/joke like that anymore and yet people are still intent on bringing it up and dragging its bloody corpse through the mud. just leave it alone already.
Expecting twitter users to understand the internet was different 10 years ago is futile bc most of the people mad about this stuff were likely at the most 10-12 back then and probably didn't use the internet for more than club penguin, toon town, and flash games.
It's always important to keep in mind that the internet was a completely different place prior to 2013. People (most people) used to post edgy or cringe stuff with impunity back in the day. I can remember the internet's behavioral transformation over the following few years was actually pretty jarring. For this reason, it's difficult to get an accurate assessment of a person based on 10+ year old posts. Modern internet standards cannot directly translate to the standards of 10+ years ago.
Twitter keep forgetting is that the late 2000 and early 2010 was a different world compared to now it was quite common for almost everyone on the internet to be edgy even big youtuber like Markiplier and PewDiePie drop the f bomb and did a bunch of edgy joke during that era of the internet
It went from a place with genuine creativity and humor to a place where the minority of upset and lifeless people could dictate to us what were allowed to find funny
Both are bad . Nowadays it's impossible to make a joke without someone being offended on twitter, they're crybaby and so sensible And back in 2013 it was really really dark . But I prefer troller other than crybaby
why did they bring Toby into this??? wth. Also imagine trying to cancel someone who made a game… about forgiving people for things they did in the past
Twitter is place where if you do nothing you get insult if you do something you get insult if you agree on the right you get insult if you agree on the wrong you also get insult
@@josephsigala6631 it angers me that people forgave Toby for saying the f slur bcuz he represented greatly the LGBTQ community in his game but not Scott even tho he did the same
People still do stupid stuff they can learn from at 21 years old, it's not like 18 is some magical number that makes people randomly grow up. I saw some people compare how Omocat and Toby Fox "responded" to their controversies as a gotcha against Omocat, which is also stupid. Toby Fox has clearly shown he's not homophobic with his games, meaning he's made direct actions that show he's "improved as a person" (ignoring the context in the romhack). Omocat has apologized twice and not said creepy stuff again. Both are completely valid ways of dealing with the controversy. As for distancing art from the creator, I think a lot of people also advocate pirating the game for people who want to do that, in which case they wouldn't be spending money on it.
"Doing something stupid" and saying you like little boys are drastically different things bro, nobody just jokes about something like that unless they're serious
@@lazybones8962 10 years ago? People definitely did joke about stuff like that, just like they joked about school shootings, called people slurs, etc. A lot of people have denounced their actions from that time with good reason. I think you underestimate how much internet culture can change, as well as how different subcultures of the internet are. As far as I'm aware there's not a single allegation of her doing something to a child or even saying something creepy about a real child, so I have no reason to believe she is actually a pedophile.
@@ITRHeck at my school that stuff still happens and is baisickly normalised and yet most people grow out of that stuff it realy is joust that people gain new experiences, I remember someone who is still a Homophob and thats mainly because he has had no other experiences with lgbtq people other than that his family thinks theyre bad
I have to say there, there’s no happiness over in a dying media like Twitter. And if there’s people who still persist with these “automated” tweets they’ve sent, what’s the point of their maturity?
What twitter fails to realize, in almost every single discourse and drama, is the fact that the suspected person is HUMAN aswell. Humans who go through changes, subject to being unfiltered and unbearable, and as Omocat stated; cringe. Infact, these people, who want to "cancel" the creators, have probably gone through the exact same phase of being unfiltered and unjust. It's just insane to me how twitter thinks they have the right to be the "judge" and enact what is "right" from "wrong" when they themselves aren't any different, and may be even worse.
A lot of the ppl creating controversy are children who weren’t around 10 years ago when this stuff was being said. So they didn’t participate and feel moral superiority and a need to cancel ppl. I was around, I didn’t make such jokes, but since I was around I know that 10 years is a long time and ppl change drastically. Something children don’t understand
Lets be honest, there's tons of people out there who have made similar jokes especially when they were younger. Often not even as an outlet, but just for the sake of seeming edgy. It's sad to see almost exclusively popular people getting targetted for these 'edgy teen phase' style tweets, when I'll bet the people complaining about them probably made similar jokes themselves.
@@mac081793People who tend to throw false accusations of others such as accusing them of PDFilia also tend to have darker skeletons in their closet. They always wind up being hypocrites.
I feel like the Toby Fox controversy is an excellent example of why cancel culture is stupid. As a kid he put a homophobic slur in his romhack, but as an adult, he has created some of the best queer representation I have seen. Recently, pepole tried to use that to judge him for who he was, which is different from who is now.
It reminds me of the whole FNAF bullshit involving Scott Cawthon (the game’s creator), people found out that he was republican and started harassing and threatening to hurt him and his family while calling him homophobic. But, Scott has shown many times that he donated to the LGBTQ community, so if he really didn’t support it, why would he continue to fund it? It makes no sense.
@@Cubeytheawesome right? People are awful, I felt so horrible for him, I was scared for him too, cus even if those were empty threats he got, there are people who would actually go to the extreme to harm someone because they pissed them off online. I’m glad he’s safe though.
@@katylepetsos7512completely different situation. also politics play a part in people's every day lives lmfao so keep your ignorant dumbass bullshit to yourself Scott cawthorn can justify his actions anyway he wants but it doesn't change the fact that he donated to people who have real genuine power in society and the people who are on the same side of the political spectrum he is are trying to use it to strip away our rights, and those are the people who he chose to donate to. think before you speak fuckwad, cons/repubs are the ones who are trying to fuck us over it's not a matter of "well erm both sides have issues if you think about it!!!!" stop acting like this jackass is a completely innocent saint who does no wrong
@@katylepetsos7512oh the problem with that really isn’t the lgbtq+ side of things, it’s the bipoc side of it. a lot of the politicians he donated to are racist in some way, shape or form, and he has never contributed directly to something like a stop aapi hate fundraising unlike lgbtq charities. on top of that, have you seen a single non-white person in the fnaf franchise, ever, really think about it. if you said no then i would like to tell you that is because there is exactly two if i am right, one of them is from the novels, and the other one is from a fazbear frights story, and do you wanna know the real kicker? _they’re both black_, there are no asian people in fnaf, which is specifically the race which one of the politicians scott donated to were spewing hate about. let this sink in, and ask yourself what the real issue here is.
As an LGBTQ+ person, I personally find the usage of the f-slur in context hilarious because after the character says it MEGALOVANIA STARTS PLAYING- Also yet another instance of Twitter not understanding people can change!
I find it wild that they are getting mad at toby fricken fox when it comes to being homophobic like in undertale alphys and undyne are canonally dating along with RG 01 and 02 in deltarune Susie and Noelle are starting to form feelings for each other and deltarune asgore possible being a closeted gay like how dr andonuts was in the Halloween hack like their is a lot of evidence to counter the belief that he's homophobic
As another person in the community, i agree. I started laughing out loud, it was pretty funny. Also he has tons of LGBTQ representation in undertale, so it wouldn't make sense if he was homophobic
Regardless, I don’t believe her saying a word really matters in the grand scheme of things Regardless of what word she’s using. People make a big deal over nothing nowadays, when our ancestors regularly got killed in wars
@@Ja_Skulli sounds like somebody wants an excuse to say slurs /j But in all seriousness, slurs were created to be offensive which is why we don’t say them. They shouldn’t be treated like ‘normal words’. btw Toby Fox uses he/him
@@weirdcakes304 Most insulting words were not created to be offensive. They were most of the time just descriptions of reality: words like mоrоn, idiоt, imbесilе started out as actual non-offensive clinical terms for people with distinctly different IQ levels and disorders, "nеgrо" just means black, and, well, "fаg" has a more interesting history, but we know that for a very long time it used to mean "something long and thin, mostly firewood", which then turned into "a cigarette" by obvious association, and then there's a theory that gay people would start smoking women's cigarettes which were thinner than men's, and the word stuck to them. What made them offensive was the aggressive intent they were used with. And sometimes, slurs can be reclaimed. For example, the word "queer", which originally just meant "odd", became a slur towards gay people, but now they've turned it into a term that they use to describe themselves. As a bisexual person with a few health issues, I am of the opinion that all slurs should be reclaimed and words only have as much power over you as you allow them to, and their meanings can change *vastly* over the years. I believe that everyone has the right to say anything and what matters is their intent behind it - if someone wants to insult you, they can do it using the most tender words, and people can commit hate crimes while being completely silent, you know. But if someone absolutely hates being called something, whether it's a slur or something innocent, like *a version of their name that they don't like,* we should absolutely respect it.
Something I find funny is that at my school, when looking for sources for a research paper, there's a rule that it has to be somewhat recent, say within 5 years of whenever you find it. Because the world--and the people in it--change, and a source from 10 years ago is ABSOLUTELY not as credible nowadays. So why in the French hell can't Twitter understand this?? Also as someone who's almost an adult myself, I regret things I did literally YESTERDAY. There's no way I'd be condoning the things I did 10 years ago. Plus those tweets were obviously dark jokes. People still make those kinds of jokes nowadays, yet you won't see Twitter laying a FINGER on them, but Omocat gets backlash for jokes she made 10 years ago just because "popular = bad" TL;DR- Twitter is dumb and ruins everything I care about.
I usually do not support people on the internet or write long comments like this one is gonna be, but I honestly feel a bit annoyed by how dumb the internet is right now. When someone does something weird or bad 10 years ago and everyone looks past it, that means this person is forgiven right? well no because it's the internet and any weird stuff you did at ANY point in your life can come back to bite you decades after, it just makes no sense, if people decided that OMOCAT was a bad person 10 years ago and never forgave her then sure, but forgiving her only to start talking s!@# about her after 10 years is just childish and dumb, please grow up guys and do something important with your lives instead of canceling people on the internet.
Yeah it's really stupid and the thing is that she agreed with the accusers and agreed that she accidentally did something she didn't know what it ment she also apologized instead of making a 10 page essay about how everyone that accused her is wrong twiiter is full of wacky people
It’s because the internet is slowly shifting into a place where mentally ill people and those who are disconnected from reality can gain power over other people. That’s why words are banned, why degenerates are getting support, and why people hold grudges to the point of attempting to cancel somebody for no reason at all
Imma be real, if you sit back and REALLY think about it- is what she said really that bad??? Don't get me wrong, it's weird as hell but there's nothing about her messaging minors, there's nothing about her harming any children. If she was saying slurs then maybe it'd be a bit different but she's never harassed anyone or done anything like that, half of the tweets sound like jokes... tone cannot be known through text. It's certainly not tasteful but at the end of the day, it's harmless and she hasn't presented that behaviour ever since, the internet loves to treat things like this as if someone committed a murder. If you guys would like to know about creators who are ACTUALLY creeps, go put that energy into trying to de-platform Nobuhiro Watsuki.
Nah bro her saying “slurs” wouldn’t even be that bad Cuz if you think about it, most of the people who lived through those traumatic events couldn’t care less about the words. Not to mention, it’s just stupid that we try to ban words from specific people to start with
As a csa victim myself im so exhausted of people caring more about fictional characters more than actual victims. The proship drama is so exhausting, fiction doesn't effect reality. Saying someone is an actual danger to others over some pixels is pretty disgusting to people who actually have experienced these things
But fiction does affect reality there were many inventions inspired by works of fiction, fiction affects people. The drama is over edgy jokes Omocat did like 10 years ago.
@@dxrk.purpl3_xx i mean yeah they aren't hurting anyone but you can say that about Literally Every Community Of People Considered Weirdos Ever. you could say it about loli/shotacons. "they're weird but they aren't hurting anyone they aren't thinking about real children". that could be true, but it's not the fact that they aren't hurting anyone it's the fact that they are glorifying weirdo behaviors like relations with minors and abuse. now while a bit questionable, i think it is okay to depict these themes if you handle the topic with care and have a legitimate narrative reason to do so, but these people do it with the intention of them and other like-minded weirdos getting off to it, which obviously doesn't sit right with me.
@@dxrk.purpl3_xx I've seen more horrible stuff come from the 'normal' part of the art community more. I've seen genuine sa threats being told to people over fiction. Or that they 'deserve more trauma' and it's not just a one time Occourence I've witnessed it. I've seen this happen at least 10 times
It's draining honestly, people seem to care more about fiction than actual victims. Especially as a male, people just tend to ignore my trauma. Yet some anime character is more important to them.
Personally, I think the only thing omocat mistaken is the lightness in wich she wrote those old tweets. She was obviously kidding, I don't really think she WAS nor IS a pedo wtf. But probably she didn't think to the conseguences for the fact she had a big following, and people would misunderstand. Guys have some chill pls 😩
Small correction: Omocat was actually correct about shota’s meaning. It literally means young boy. Shotacon (short for shota complex) is the attraction to young boys. There is nothing wrong with saying shota in itself, in fact it is a relatively common name. I would also mention that someone can like aspects of Lolis and shotas without it having anything to do with children. One that is pretty common is shota voice which sounds distinctly different to actual children and is often heard in characters who do not qualify as shotas at all. You might also think lolis and shotas have a childlike feeling that makes you want to protect them. Just because a lot of people are viewing it sexually, does not mean it is sexualised inherently. Loli is sufficiently divorced from the book Lolita in Japan that it isn’t the same concept. In omocat’s case, the other tweets are kinda shady but I have no idea why people go after the shota shirt when it is literally just an observation. Any other demographic on a shirt aside from Loli would not be an issue to the internet but it as always the internet makes everything sexual immediately.
nope, the term comes a character called Shōtarō from Tetsujin 28-go. A magazine form the 80's coined the term shotacon when they noticed a trend of people being creeply interested in the character
so omocat was in their 20’s when they made those tweets? as someone in their 20’s currently, I would NEVER tweet about wanting to be a drifloon, and as a pokemon fan from back then, people STILL thought drifloon was fuckin’ creepy back then- no way anyone would take “I wish I was a drifloon” as a joke considering it’s dex entries
I gotta say, finding this video really helped clear my head regarding this stuff. Heard about this stuff in June regarding Omocat from a friend and it made me very on the fence on whether I should even play Omori, since it's been on my list for a while. There seems to be some stuff I've heard about that wasn't brought up here, but honestly that makes sense. At the end of the day this shit is just fucking Twitter drama that got blown out of proportion. Sure, maybe Omocat has secretly still been a terrible person and is just way, way better at hiding stuff. But what matters now is that this shit happened 10 YEARS AGO, and evidence that things are like how they were back then is minimal to none. Obviously I haven't done my own research into this (partially cause I don't want to spoil more of Omori for myself) but considering it's Twitter, I don't think it's worth thinking about too much.
I just want to say since I've seen it floating around, there is an edit of a screenshot where someone replied with "BOOOOORING." to some drawing about healthy ships or something where someone edited it to make it look like Omocat wrote that and some people are using it as "evidence". The person who edited it themselves stated that it's just an edit and joke but some people take it serious. Ultimately what you think of it all is your business, I just wanted to make sure that you judge the situation off of things that actually happened, not off of edits that some try to use against her.
The people pushing the omocat drama are literally just losers on kiwi farms who are jealous of her. It’s often competing artists who can’t stand that she has a successful store and and game. That’s it. That’s the drama.
As someone who really really likes Omocat , yeah those tweets were fucking weird. But it was ten years ago, ten years ago. There was no repeated behavior after that , Two apologies , and an explanation where she acknowledge what she did. I think that we can let her off the hook now.
I feel I should mention whenever people try canceling someone for something they did in 2010-2013, they don't realize that the entire internet was a completely different place. Everyone(and I mean everyone) were edgier and more crude back then, because of the time period. But things change, and so did every single person back then.
I don't know what's with Twitter digging into 10+ old tweets and using them as a benchmark on whether someone's a good person or not. I personally don't know enough about Omocat to have a proper opinion on it, but I feel like we'd need a lot more than just this to know whether she's done something way worse than posting some edgy and uncomfortable tweets in the past. Since it's Twitter, they'll just blow the entire thing out of proportion without properly researching whether it's just bad humor from back then, or if she's done this kind of things to other people, including minors. It's a serious allegation that can cause more harm than actual help when thrown around like that. Dragging Toby Fox into that is just plain stupid. Keep it in mind that this romhack was created what... like 15 years ago? He was a teenager, pretty much anyone at that point says something edgy or regrettable, but what's important is that he quickly has shown signs of growing up from that. People are acting if they haven't said anything shitty when they were 16. Both Undertale and Deltarune have plenty of LGBTQ+ characters scattered around, and they're all represented in a respectful way, so he's clearly shown how much he's learned over the years. This was also back in the 2000s, when the Internet was a lot younger and filled with dark shitty humor. As someone who's used it in these times, I'd like to remind you, that back then it was popular to use the word "gay" as an insult, just to show the state of the Internet at that time. tl;dr - Omocat's old tweets are bad, but people are throwing too harsh allegations without having much proof to back it up, and the whole Toby Fox drama is just straight up dumb
It's more about having no follow up. Like, she said couple weird things in the past but there was nothing about it after that. No proof of her touching someone or being the same. Even with this she didn't hurt anyone by tweeting that stuff.
This kind of humor was common on the Internet 10 years ago. The people trying to cancel Omocat and Toby Fox were probably making the same kinds of jokes back then.
it should also be noted that toby fox said the slur once and then proceeded to make two games that feature homosexual relationships, characters who are heavily implied to be trans, and non-binary protagonists, ALONG WITH A GAME LITERALLY ABOUT HOW PEOPLE CAN CHANGE FOR THE BETTER AND ITS UP TO YOUR TO FORGIVE THEM OR NOT.
1:28 shota is also a name used for males in georgia. it actually makes me confused that shota means liking young boys. when its just a name in georgian.
The internet jokes about everything from child sex trafficking to hiroshima to sus imposter and big chungus. Unless someone has actually requested nudes from a kid, or assaulted one themselves, I literally do not give a shit.
Omocat may have said some questionable stuff back 10 years ago but her apologizing and telling us that she *was* a cringe art repressed student without making any non sense excuses tells me that she has changed and is shameful of the stuff she has done in the past. I’m sure she has changed from 10 years to now. And I am a complete different person myself too from back 10 years ago to now. There’s *no way* people doesn’t change through 10 years.
Honestly, toby fox has even expressed a lot of regret and dislike for that rom hack he make a forever ago. Hes expressed that he wants to put it behind him as a stupid and bad decision he made at 16. So fucking lame of people to bring it up. There couldn't be less of a point in doing that lol, it's honestly pretty downright mean to bring it up. Ofc people have every right to care when hurtful words that have been used as weapons against them are utilized for a laugh, but unless you, like, kill someone, we need to accept that sometimes kids lack the judgement to make good decisions, and that they're often making them from a very limited perspective. There couldn't be less of a point to bring it up now. It's not going to help anyone, and there's much worse things to care about than "this literal human being isnt completely perfect in every way!!!". Istg if some of you held other creators to the standard hes often held to, you'd hate every single one. Im not saying that someone saying the f slur shouldnt be seen as a bad thing. Im saying we should examine how suffocating it must be to never be allowed one mistake.
the funniest thing about people thinking Toby is homophobic is that we literally have canon Undyne x Alphys, a transgender lion AND non-binary Frisk and Chara, and that is ONLY in Undertale, I haven't played Deltarune but I'm sure there's probably more there.
Regarding Toby Fox, a lot of people in the community just lack the maturity to understand not only the fact that everyone has a DIFFERENT perspective on what's good or bad, they also also miss the point of writing a story with flawed characters... you can't write a human world without the problems of humanity(discrimination, aggression, etc..), but you also can't tell the players how they're supposed to feel about EVERYTHING. As a writer you don't need to agree with the use of the word "F-Maggot" to have a character say it, though it will mean said character will be kind of a dickhead, it doesn't mean much else... not every sin is punished publicly, and the writer should NOT be antagonized for it. If you feel offended by the fictional character, take a step back and consider "maybe this character is meant to be offensive?", and if you can't handle that, simply understand the story isn't made for you.
Here's my two cents no one asked for I think the tweets are weird but I don't think she's a pedophile it feels two long ago to take seriously as well as all the tweets giving off the impression of someone just messing around and doesn't realize what there saying.
Twitter when they find out someone has said a single weird thing 12 years ago: "I sentace you to DEATH!" FR though, thia situation is probably the most terminally online I've seen people be regarding OMORI and Undertale, shows how desperate people are for drama that they're trying to get Toby and OMO to fight each other and such. What we could use is Toby VS Andrew Hussie, give that delusional agressive weirdo some calm cold burns like he did to Matpat. Mostly joking about that, but it'd be pretty funny. Toby is no longer a prisoner of his Basement. :p
I too have done and said cringey racist shit 11 years ago. Now I don't. People change and grow. I don't know how folks don't get this. To think you are the same person from your past just says to me that you've never had any sort deeper relationship with anybody.
About the "shota" shirt i also thought a while ago that meant "cute anime boy" like Omocat did, as i've always liked Vocaloid as a child/teenager and always saw videos calling Kagamine Len a shota, bc he was cute and not so masculine, and thought shota could also apply for adult man that didn't look manly, had big anime eyes and no evident masculine features such as big muscles and beards. Also i thought "loli" meant cute girls with pretty dresses like Sailor Moon and so i used both those words normally, its funny looking back then when i used those therms without knowing their real meaning
Look, we already lost many creators, from Notch, to Andrew Hussie, ever Robert Manion is suspended and not playing Professor Hidgens. I won't stand for another public figure to be hastily covered up by a cardboard cutout of beloved internet synthetizer and singer Hatsune Miku. Full support from me to her. Also, revisionism can GTH, they actively made Miku worse by associating her with artist censorship on a level not seen in centuries of history. She deserves better than to be a glorified censor box. Love Omori, like Omocat, and appreciate you. GL
I honestly don't know what to say,but i think that omocat has madurated and criticizing her because of some stuff that happened 10 years ago is...weird
I love how people start these moronic crusades to lynch someone for stuff far over a decade ago, while both Toby Fox and Omocat dont give much of a shit and just keep idk, selling merch and stuff without a care in the world.
I love how twitter and social media in general expects people with a stable platform to just be right away perfect and always perfect. Right down their apologies. We're human beings, we're prone to fucking up at some point. And this was EXTREMELY lighthearted compared to actual claims of pedophilia. So she made jokes about liking little boys that she crushed on in the 3rd grade, so she made a joke about being a driftloon. Mind you, the pokemon steals kids in canon, why aren't cancelling gamefreak for making that kind of pokemon? Nowhere does any of these "controversies" entail any victims of her conduct. No kids were harmed, I feel people are just bored with their lives and have no sense of reality to recognize a proper monster when they see it. Call her past tweets weird, creepy, even gross or whatever, but that is nothing compared to others who sent kids used underwear and decided to play the damn ukulele as an "apology". Literally to the ones trying to cancel this woman, say you're chronologically online without saying you're chronologically online.
Ho boy, at least the things I posted in _my_ past would only be considered "cringe" or "the height of stupidity" at worst... Hell, I even vented about how cringe I was in the past at some point.
i think it's pretty hypocrite of people to hate on omocat for a shirt but not even acknowledging the fact that Toby fox made a whole album about a MINOR having Bpreg, not justyfing omocat but you gotta be coherent, if you hate on omocat for a thing she did 10 years ago you have to hate on toby too, i do not hate any of the 2 because i belive that a thing called REGRET and MATURING exist
Look this ain't enough for me to not buy omori, considering that this controversy is small beans compared to blizzard and the guys who made atomic heart.
What about yandere dev that guy did way worst things then any indie dev like omocat and toby fox if your comparing the worst of the indie game industry plus the yandere dev rabbit hole of controversy is so deep that it a miracle he hasn't gotten the same treatment like edp445 for multiple reason
Ok cool but like when are we gonna talk about the fact that Omori is supposedly on PS4 and PS5 yet has not showed up on the store page a whole year after the initial playstation launch in europe?
This reminds me of the time people tried to cancel Mr. Beast for that one time he included the "I identify as an attack helicopter" in onw of his earlier skits and said some (I don't recall what hw said, go search it up if you want) stuff online like a decade ago. OMOCAT does seem to have genuinely changed, and has very obviously grown. I'm not saying we should look past it or forget or even forgive, but that we should understand. Understand that people change, should change, and that sometimes change is inevitable, for better or for worse. Have a good day.
honestly have these people heard of Fujimoto's twitter? I'm not attacking anyone but many people know about the author of Chainsaw Man being also a "weirdo" on the internet and everyone was just like "haha that's funny" "literally me 💀" but with omocat people go like "YOU WHAT??" "kys thank you" and cancel her. as always, cancel is selective.
One of the things I hate most about this controversy is that it splits up both the omori and undertale/deltarune communities even more than they already were and it's not safe to make any opinion on this topic and you guaranteed to be harassed either way, just like "oh you support omocat? well you should kys" and "oh you hate omocat? well you should kys." it's just like what happened with the scott cawthon trump controversy and the pokemon sword and shield controversy where both sides are split and if you dare disagree with the other than they'll harass you. And there's not even a "right or wrong" answer so it makes it harder for you to even form an opinion. This is why twitter and the human race were a horrible horrible mistake.
twitter users "discover" that you can change and grow as a person and that your past can linger even after you've grown like a bruise that won't heal. twitter users also "learned" that knowing this still, you can move past recurring instances of your past that may haunt you.
seeing people as the same person as they were 10 years ago is insane to me, that's not even 50% of my life time, so something I did 50% of my life ago dictates who I am now, that's insane, only on twitter(x)
i mean its stuff from 10 years ago and internet back then is different from internet now, and so are the level of edgy-ness a average internet user(mostly twitter) can take
Yeah, this just sounds like Twitter being Twitter. They're always blowing things way out of proportion and exaggerating any kind of drama. Personally, I will continue to support Omocat because I myself have quite a cringy past. Most of us do, after all, thinking and saying weird things, especially when we have been exposed to the unfiltered Internet for most of our young life, where we are influenced by whatever fandoms we're in or whatever we're interested in. Going along with Omocat's influence from Japanese culture, I will say that having a cringy past is quite common and in Japan, they call this "chuunibyou," or "eighth-grade syndrome" where we do very cringy things because we're still kids and not mature yet. So yeah, it's very likely Omocat had a case of chuunibyou when she made those old tweets, but as one can obviously tell she has grown up and matured beyond that, and her excellent storytelling and art skills shine in OMORI.
I’m still supporting her, and before you say that she is like that my reason is that it literally happened like he said in the video, a decade ago. Omocat didn’t make the best apology yet she has grown. I know it sounds like i’m being “overly defending” but it seems like continuing to go on about things that happened over 10 years ago is a bit insane, I just see it as that she apologized tried to make up for it, you have the choice to forgive her or not but if you don’t just move on with it and continuing to harass her.
bro the fact that she posted things saying she liked little boys was hilarious 💀💀💀 I don’t really care if she is or not a pedo she made a good game that her life not mine and it’s not like omori had any secret messages in it
@@MetalBansheeX>the game is trash Bro I know my name says skyrim but what the fuck do you play thats good if your bar is that high? Do you just not play games?
tbh on the toby drama? As a gay person reclaiming the F slur (idk if youtube will nuke me for saying it) the line tl;dr "Eat shit f-ggot" (again censored for youtube sake) Is the FUNNIEST SHIT TO ME, Idk why people are so mad about it especially with how lgbt+ friendly toby is nowadays even back then the character who says this in the romhack was implied to be closeted gay like
If everyone’s horrible jokes from a decade ago resurfaces we would all be considered horrible people. As an annoying little child, I made many terrible jokes on stuff like roblox. Nobody is perfect, and the fact the only “evidence” against her is just stupid edgy jokes. THAT is it. Nothing more, nothing less. The fact I still see serious and joke comments in every Omori video about her being a pedophile and it is annoying.
The takeaway from this is that there's something called "Growing and changing as a person". And if you don't believe people who have done terrible things in the past can change, just look at the countless people who used to say racist things online who ended up being defenders of equality and fight against prejudice, the people in the LGBTQ+ who used to be homophobic, or the countless other examples. Yeah, people do *bad* things- but the point isn't to say that those things were okay. It's to take in the good with the bad. I'm sure there's some things you did in the past too that weren't the best. But that's okay.
as a gay dude i honestly don't rlly give 2 shits abt toby fox using the f slur in a random earthbound rom hack like 10 years ago and the fact that is being compared to what omocat said feels rlly dumb bcus its honestly not nearly as bad
The Twitter users who think people are just like what they were a wile ago are the only people that can't change, at least to me. Unless they drop that philosiphy then they are stuck like they are now, stupidly stuck on the past and fueled by drama.
@@Johnthe_silly i know right If omocat was as bad as twitter make her out to be then she would be considered a female yandere dev Also how come there aren't a lot of exposing video on RU-vid similar to the ones about yandere dev by twitter "logic"
I can't believe people resorted to a shitpost of a line when Toby collaborating with Omocat is right there. If you want to drag Toby into this, this should've been brought up.
They're the same series, correct, but not the same game. He mentions them as seperate games, not as seperate series. Also Mother released in 1989 and stars Ninten, Mother 2 released in 1994 and stars Ness, and was given an English localization as EarthBound.
