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Pepperball Live SD self-test - the good, bad, and ugly! 

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Curiosity got the best of Scaredy Cat? Exposure to 2% pelargonic acid vanillyamide (PAVA) from a Pepperball Live SD round ball was tested. Capsicum oleoresin is the natural oily resin from the Capsicum plant upon which PAVA is derived. PAVA acts on a specific pain/heat receptor to activate intracellular signals through nerves to the brain. It's a skin, eye, throat, and lung irritant. I break the 0.68 caliber round ball to document the time course of exposure, short-term and long-term effects, and comment on the efficacy under various moisture conditions. No secret, yes it burns but there are things that modulate the effects of PAVA up or down and it's really important to know those if chemical rounds are to be used effectively.
I chronicle exposure from initial minutes to 1 hour later to 4 days later and provide some unique perspectives other than just what we already know about pepperballs in general. They do work. Because of the insolubility in pure water though these aren't going to be more effective in rain but the right liquid can help to spread the chemical to other parts of the face, scalp, neck, arms, etc. Clearly a cloud of powder and the impact of a projectile is the best way to reach eyes and mouth but my method was sufficient for me to feel the burn.
Important point: I did this on a hot humid mid-summer day so the effects of sweat and body oils certainly play an important part in the misery index. Watch the entire video because I discuss many of the key factors affecting PAVA but this comes later on during my recovery phase!
If you have any sympathy, please give it a thumbs up and subscribe for more videos coming your way soon. Let me know your thoughts for tests you would like to see.
Intro music is from the RU-vid music library (This is not a Christmas song - NEFFEX)
Exit is from iPhone iMovie app
#pepperball
#lesslethal
#capsaicin
#capsicum
#pepperspray

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@markcalvert7601
@markcalvert7601 Год назад
If you take a full exposure, you will find that it is nearly instantly debilitating. There is no escape aside from a gas mask. Having taken exposures from OC spray and PAVA 2 balls, I can tell you that the latter is awe inspiring. OC can be effective; PAVA is wildly effective and maintained the burn for the better part of an hour.
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical Год назад
I believe it. I only got a little taste of it from my test here. Someday I just might walk into a good cloud of powder to experience it but I'm not ready yet. Thanks for sharing your perspective.
@lesslethalfordummies
@lesslethalfordummies 2 года назад
I am sorry but i love watching these pepperball challenge videos. Way to take one for the team. I feel like if a threat is eminent just dumping the mag on them increases the likelihood they will ingest the powder one way or another. Interesting when watching law enforcement deploy pepper rounds they also fire multiple successive shots.
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical 2 года назад
Yes multiple shots are probably essential to get sufficient coverage. The VKS with a hopper full looks top notch for that purpose. And I learned if you are particularly devious and have to fight, breaking a PepperBall over the head of someone is a tactic worth considering.
@lesslethalfordummies
@lesslethalfordummies 2 года назад
@@ScaredyCatTactical hopper full = world of pain.
@2c-BA
@2c-BA 2 года назад
Thanks for taking one for the team! I feel your pain. I once had one that had a crack in the shell of a Live-X round and I placed it in plastic bag to save it later, for some unknown reason. I had some of the power on a couple of my fingers and thought I brushed it all off. A few minutes later I was distracted with a phone call and accidently rubbed my right eye, not really thinking I had any on me. My eye immediately starting burning, watering and was completely bloodshot. The burning and irritation probably lasted a good 20+ minutes. As you know the Live-X round is more than double the strength than SD, so you probably can image how bad this burned. But I don't think I had much more than a microscopic amount that maybe unknowingly melted into the oils of my skin. For the amount of power outside the crack seemed negligible and still managed to fry my eye. Like LLFD referenced, I think it is most effective with multiple shots to ensure proper distribution. I sure could have use one of those wipes GH below spoke about. Thanks again.
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical 2 года назад
Thanks for watching and sharing your story. I have heard about cracked Pepperball rounds causing troubles. Definitely had I looked up and let the powder fall in my eyes it would have been much worse with the same burning inside the eye lids as opposed to just my scalp and forehead. I think getting eye exposure is the key to incapacitating someone. Skin pain or even coughing is something easier to work through.
@Outrider74
@Outrider74 Год назад
Brave move. I made the mistake of wiping a VERY SMALL amount on my face. It wasn’t unbearable, but it did not feel good at all. I can’t imagine getting a cloudful of it in my eyes and nose.
@juicyfruit6311
@juicyfruit6311 2 года назад
You now know what it feels to be on the receiving end of these. Congrats! 😁 I've been hit by a Taser, sprayed with pepper spray, and hit by pepper ammo. Gives you a different perspective being on the receiving end. After getting shot at by pepper ammo, I did notice some delayed effects of the powder. I ended up turning the fps to about 310 and mixing paint with chemical rounds. First 2 shots of pepper at high velocity. If that doesn't hurt, paint rounds to the face is the next option!
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical 2 года назад
Thanks for watching. Yes, I'm now a member of the pepper club. I like the paint idea as long as the rounds can tolerate pepperball velocities. Red paint would be my choice.
@juicyfruit6311
@juicyfruit6311 2 года назад
@@ScaredyCatTactical Been using GI Sportz 2 star paint. No breakage so far in my TMC or Tippmann running at 300 fps. Planning on testing it in my TCP soon.
@greghonore2320
@greghonore2320 2 года назад
I believe there is a company that have handy whip’s that neutralize PepperBall powder. It might be burna but not sure
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical 2 года назад
Yes good point, Byrna has some coming out. That’s a great idea in case you get accidentally exposed to some of the cloud. I got most of it on the top of my head. If the powder gets in your hair the wipes won’t help though. The sweat will make it run down the forehead as a slow painful drip. Messy stuff!
@ResidentialRepairs
@ResidentialRepairs 2 года назад
That reminded me of my old Academy days before graduation they walked us through what they call A gas house with several Di s inside with gas masks on and we would have to take a deep breath once they were sure you took that breath they escorted you outside and then there was another couple Di s who would wipe mace underneath your eyelids and let you have a feel of that so we got a double whammy gas and mace all at 1 time And there was only 2 water hoses available for all of us by the time you got your turn to the water hose you really had an experience you would never forget.
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical 2 года назад
Thanks for sharing the story. I have heard similar ones from others. It's part of good training to know how it feels in case you get exposed in the future. I think anyone using PepperBalls should try to at least experience it once.
@Joreel
@Joreel Год назад
They were still doing that in 1995 when I was in boot camp. I wonder if they're doing it today or if they got so Woke they stop doing it because it might hurt a recruit's feelings.
@scottsymonds1950
@scottsymonds1950 2 года назад
point is to be a cloud after the burst from hitting someone
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical 2 года назад
Yes, I agree. The cloud is key. I only experienced a fraction of what a good cloud would do. How exactly to get the best cloud is the trick though.
@Joreel
@Joreel Год назад
@@ScaredyCatTactical having a fan blow it towards you would probably have given you a stronger effect, but yeah Pepperball rounds are no joke. I had to experience Pepper spray and Tear gas when I was in basic training in 1995. I have never forgotten that painful experience. There are some really good chemical wipes that will neutralize the effects of the Pepperballs. I have a Byrna SD and we made sure to also buy some of those wipes so we can wipe down any surfaces the powder gets on if we ever have to use it in the house to stop an intruder as soap and water doesn't remove the chemicals very well.
@themartialartway
@themartialartway Год назад
Wow. I just ordered Diablo hellfire pepperball from eBay. I will talk on it next week. Heck I may open it to see if it works!
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical Год назад
Be careful if you test it on yourself. But it would be a great video. Remember that plain water just spreads it everywhere and makes it burn worse. If you apply anything to neutralize it, use milk or something that has proteins in it. The proteins will bind up the active PAVA and greatly reduce the discomfort.
@themartialartway
@themartialartway Год назад
@@ScaredyCatTactical Very nice! Didn't know that. I may chicken out. I may shoot (rarely- lived in an hoa) and smell it to see how potent it is.
@slingshotwarrrior8105
@slingshotwarrrior8105 2 года назад
I've gotta get me some of those rounds bro! That will take the wind out of your sails! 😆😆
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical 2 года назад
The Live SD are probably the most cost-efficient for what you get. I have Live-X (5% PAVA) too but wasn't brave enough to try those out. Either will work, if you can unload a couple on someone. Not sure how they would fire from a slingshot. Maybe something you can test!
@slingshotwarrrior8105
@slingshotwarrrior8105 2 года назад
@@ScaredyCatTactical I could do a slingshot test, here are some products I'd suggest for you to test out. The cobra adder, repeating crossbow, Steambow AR-6 Stinger 2 Tactical Repeating crossbow. Trust me you'll like these products, are available on Amazon bro.
@chriszimmerman9737
@chriszimmerman9737 2 года назад
Brutal. I’ve had a few mag breaks early in my LL journey. It sucked lol.
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical 2 года назад
It could have been MUCH worse. I got enough though on the skin to really understand that aspect very well. My scalp and forehead is still very sensitive and red days later. I cannot imagine what it must be like in the eyes.
@gerardmcquade9102
@gerardmcquade9102 Год назад
might be a good idea to mix the pepper balls with some water balls in a hopper
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical Год назад
That's an interesting idea. The water would definitely spread the capsaicin all around and make them miserable.
@Rover-gg8jj
@Rover-gg8jj Год назад
Will be 7,5 joule still effectiv with pepperballs? Im adlig because im from Germany and we are Not allowed to use above 7,5 joules.
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical Год назад
Great question. I think that 7.5 Joule is just fine for pepperballs. But test a couple brands of pepper rounds and make sure that they will break reliably on contact at that power. They may break on hard surfaces but not on the body covered with soft clothing. You have to know what works and what doesn't.
@Rover-gg8jj
@Rover-gg8jj Год назад
@@ScaredyCatTactical Thank you for your help. I will try that out !
@theodorejuliano1079
@theodorejuliano1079 2 года назад
Help! My new VKS jams and has two rounds in the barrel. Any trouble shooting ideas?
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical 2 года назад
Sorry to hear about your jams. The VKS generally does well with shaped projectiles from my experience. What type of projectiles are you using? To fix, de-gass the launcher, remove the barrel, and then you can use a wooden or plastic stick to dislodge the projectiles from the barrel. In the future, I would suggest using round projectiles like the Grimburg JULv2. They work really well as long as you screen for best bore match first. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UDd_RA0Q0C0.html
@oregonpatriot1570
@oregonpatriot1570 4 месяца назад
Use a credit card to make lines and snort a couple lines through a straw.
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical 4 месяца назад
I might as well eat some Carolina pepper wings with my Capsaicin hit.
@intergalacticangler
@intergalacticangler Год назад
should a changed your shirt i still see bits
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical Год назад
You can bet I changed it soon after. Yes, I still remember shaking it by mistake in the laundry room and getting a nose full. It wasn't pleasant lol.
@dwright361
@dwright361 Год назад
That was lame test. Shoot something hard to atomize the powder.
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical Год назад
Look forward to your video! Thanks for watching.
@chrisalarcon7013
@chrisalarcon7013 11 месяцев назад
Why do u keep wearing these bodybuilding tshirts lol jw
@ScaredyCatTactical
@ScaredyCatTactical 11 месяцев назад
They aren't a sponsor lol. I probably should stop giving out free advertising. I have a ton of them from 10 years ago when I was big into supplements and got free T-shirts with my orders. My career keeps me in business clothes all the time so I love to wear those when doing knock-around things and my videos just happen to be shot during those off-days.
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