“So you have a movie for me?” “Yeah, it’s based on a book called The Lightning Thief” “Oh, so you read the book?” “Well I meant to but then instead I took a nap for nine weeks so instead I just read a three paragraph summary on the internet while I was in the Uber on the way here.” “Oh, so you wrote the entire script in a what- 10 minute Uber ride?” “Pretty much.”
Persephone shouldn’t have even been in the Underworld. She’s only there during the winter months but this movie takes place in summer. Still mad about that to this day.
The script as a whole is terrible,” Riordan wrote after naming some of the things he did like about the film. “I don’t simply mean that it deviates from the book, though certainly it does that to point of being almost unrecognizable as the same story. Fans of the books will be angry and disappointed. They will leave the theater in droves and generate horrible word of mouth. That is an absolute given if the script goes forward as it stands now. But the bigger problem is that even if you pretend the book doesn’t exist, this script doesn’t work as a story in its own right.”
@@owdy3973 Also, he was in the wrong for kidnapping persephone. Back to my other point though, why did persephone exist in the first place? Because zeus banged demeter (lol)
@@benstone596 i mean yeah he did that, but that's better compared to Zeus that's literally banging everyone including his own sister, other goddesses and sum random girl and still better compared to poseidon that rape medusa which make Athena jealous because she's his lover (even if technically athena is zeus's kid so poseidon's niece) and then athena cursed medusa which makes her turn into the monster and also Poseidon cursed that random queen to have kid with a bull ( Minotaur) and many other stuff Compared to them, Hades is literally the chillest God
@@owdy3973 Yeah I agree hades was probably the least destructive god, just think it's funny that most stories in greek mythology start with "then zeus saw x and banged it", or is a spin-off of those stories
Persephone shouldn’t have even been in the Underworld. She’s only there during the winter months but this movie takes place in summer. Still mad about that to this day.
@@jamescolm1133 impossible Dinoysus would have transformed peter johnson into a dolphin and would have saved the day by himself and would have been made king of the universe
Alternatively: "Does that have any psychological effect on this child?" "Actually he's not a child. We aged him up to a teenager to appeal more to our audience of children." "That is how that works."
And it was plot relevant that he was 12. Due to the prophecy thing about a child of the big 3 making a choice at age 16 that decides the fate of Olympus or something. But nope! Movie ignores that completely.
Theres actually an explanation for the no PTSD thing. PJ Demigods are hardwired to be Heroes. Their brains are rearanged to make them better at surviving monster attacks.
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Roaming_Guardian oh yeah that’s right. He got misdiagnosed with ADHD or something similar, but really he was a demigod.
Prophecy: One of you three's children is gonna maybe destroy the world Zeus, Poseidon, and Hades: Ok we promise not to have kids Zeus: Has Jason and Thalia, and who knows if there's more? Poseidon: Has Percy, and again who knows if there's more? Hades: Tries to protect the kids he already has but doesn't have any more
Well i think in the movies hes pretty douchy but in the books hes good i guess (which is wierd to say about what is basically the devil in Greek Mythology)
@@titancaller005 Nah, I'm pretty sure Tartarus would be more "the Devil" kind of guy (honestly, almost anyone seems more like Satan than Hades). Hades always seemed more like the accountant, or the CEO that's just there to make sure everything works alright, he was not directly in charge of punishment, and held their version of Heaven too.
I was lucky enough to never read the books before watching the movie, so i don’t know how far they went away from the source material and still enjoy it.
I know right. I also envisioned this movie adaptation of Eragon that doesn’t exist that they could make a pitch meeting about. Oh, and then there‘re also possible pitch meetings on non existing Pirates of the Carribean sequels... So many options!
"So they head to the entrance of the underworld which is located in Hollywood" "That's where I live!" "Same here sir." "Wawawow!!.. Do you think there's a meaning behind that?" "I wouldn't worry about it." "Ahh.. Ok" Hahahahahahaha!!
@@robynguzman3276 As a fan of both, I'd say that while Harry Potter is often over-rated comparatively, they are about equal to me, especially compared to the first four books of Harry Potter, since the last ones were rushed. But I also have to say that they have an equal amount of plot holes, as much as I adore them both. Just to give a few examples, the "demigods have to attack first" rule is ignored later on, and it is never really explained why the super-evil Titans just don't assume their divine form and instantly kill everyone but the gods they are fighting. After all, they don't care for mortals, and never have.
Makes a lot of sense. (There are a lot of satanists in Hollywood, especially the Hollywood elite. Beyonce is one of of them. Look up the meaning of her daughter's name. Blue Ivy.)
"He wakes up at this training school for special people." "Oh - Hogwarts." "No, not Hogwarts - Camp Half-blood." "Oh - is the Half-Blood Prince there?" LOLOLOL!!!! *GOLD!*
My husband watched the movie, And never read the books. Always made me mad when he say it was a good movie. Finally got him to read it and he was like; “Waoh you were right that was nothing like the book, book is so much better” “Thank you!”
@@Soren59 Hair color, eye color, or accent. God. She's supposed to be blonde, gray eyes, southern accent (she's from Virginia in case anyone reading doesn't remember)
@@girlwithoutafairy nah, thats not the bad part. The bad part was the "athena always have a plan" in capture the flag game. Instead of ambushing percy, she duel him despite having number advantage....
"What about the author? What does he think about us not following his story?" "Oh screw him sir!" "Oh...no thanks." "No I mean we don't care about the author's opinion at all an we blatantly ignore all his suggestions!" "Is that okay?" "Probably not but this will make us money sir!" "Okay then!"
@@shaunjimbangan1166 nah if you read it on his site he has parts of the email he sent them. They completely changed bits of the characters around. Obviously the most egregious one that Percy is supposed to be 12. Not a big deal either way I guess though for us. Those emails were interesting though
"so then they head to the entrance of the Underworld which is located in Hollywood!" "that's where I live!" "same here, sir" "wow wow wow -- wait do you think there's a meaning behind that?" the shade lmao
As much as this is a terrible film to any percy Jackson fan, at the very least it led to me making the connection between filmmaking and the entrance to the underworld
I can just imagine that it doesn't do that and she literally goes the whole movie with this ladies hand wrapped grabbing onto her because they're on a time crunch and don't have the time to break it off until the end of the movie
@Cyrus Dodson-Sands It's the pestilence of our age. You simply cannot make a film adaptation without converting at least one character to black, gay or female. We are one step short of Beth Hur, the black Wright Sisters or Noah with his lifelong partner guy. (They should write something new with whatever setup they want, instead of breaking and ruining well established stories.)
"So Harry Potter leaves the safety of Hogwarts, runs off with his goofy friend Ron and the clever girl Hermione and saves the day?" "No, you see Percy leaves Camp Half-Blood with his friends...you know what, yes, yes he does."
We have a contender in the form of HOOT(starring Logan Lerman, and a tough blond), and The Kid Who Would Be King has the spirit, despite being Arthurian.
@@zeromaniac5210 true but any young adults will have some psychological effects if they decapitat someone for the first time unless they have some mental problems
Crotchwhistle Purple we are mad because it deviates from the book so much and is literally something different. I would not be mad if this was its own thing but it did not stay true to books that we percy jackson love.
yeah i wouldn't think too hard about it. They just have similar literature themes, that being the Heroes Journey. Imo tho Percy Jackson is objectively better, and this is coming from a massive Happy Potter stan
@@lucasrfma I disagree personally I just think they both have the same hero’s journey type story that’s been around since ancient times. But everyone is entitled to their opinion I don’t wanna start any beef 😂❤️
I personally wouldn't have cared that much if the ages of the characters was the biggest change. Sure, it would still lead to some issues later on in the series, but that could be easily fixed just by changing the prophecy a tiny bit. And maybe 12 to 17 was a bit of a huge jump, I think 15 would be better as there are a lot more good 15-year old actors than 12-year old ones.
While I still don't know why they did this(I mean Harry Potter starts when he's 11), I was more upset with the total annihilation of percy's character. He was witty, impulsive, loyal, brave, and kind of a lovable moron in the books. Honestly one of my favorite fictional characters of all time, even more so than Harry Potter. And then they made him into an angsty, boring, emotionless shell of a person. Hell Grover is more like book Percy's character in the movie! And it wasn't just percy, it was literally every single character. The only semi close correct casting was annabeth, but even then they turned her "slightly a know it all" attitude into straight up bitchiness. I really, really hope they get the show right. Percy jackson deserves an excellent adaption.
"This is the story of a kid who is having a hard time at life, but then he realizes he's part of a bigger magical world and he has power and he need to start his training," "Hey wait, that's Harry Potter!" "Really? I was thinking Shazam." "Huh, because Luke Skywalker is what popped into MY mind." "Are you sure? That description screams most of the X-Men to me."
@@dennisbeaman958 Yes a gene that let's them break physics up to and including the conservation of matter and energy. Face it, the X-factor is basically the "magic" gene.
@@ryanward5770 I don't quite think they were trying to pass off the actors as 12 year olds. Still, if Harry Potter could get so many great 12 year old actors, Percy Jackson could do the same.
I love how the villain is set up to be Ares in the book but last page turns it into Luke lol. In this they literally were just like yeah Hades seems bad lets go with him 😂
@@robertbench5187 Bruh just chill. It's just an inside joke for people who've read the books to disregard the existence of the movies. Even the author hates it. This isn't a hate comment btw.
"There is no war in Ba Sing Se.. Or The Last Air Bender movie.." "There is no Percy Jackson movies in the fandom." "Same thing with the Artemis Fowl movies."
Well the reason they all live in America is because in present time America is the most powerful nation and this is the same reason they lived in Greece in ancient times
Goddamn *awful* movie. A *real* damn shame that they put the name "Artemis Fowl" on that turd of a movie. Destroyed almost *every* character from the ground up.
I remember buying the book for this after I saw the trailers and read it cover to cover so quick I was excited as for the movie! Once I got in though the whole time I was just saying to my mate oh no, this is all wrong, oh no why are they doing that, oh no they forgot this 😂 Bit of a laugh now if I’m honest
All Teenage Fiction novels share a lot of similarities. PJ and Harry Potter are pretty close but you can find the same themes from them in Hunger Games and Divergent and so on
There was another movie he doesn't die... just forgot what it's called something about channing Tatum protecting a princess on earth from his step brother? Lol idk forgot
„He decapitates her.“ || „Wow, will this have any psychological effect on this child?“ || „Not even a little.“ Almost the very next scene: *Percy decapitates the Hydra three times in a frenzy of violence*
@@cadenceframe2141 Artemis Fowl is a fantastic series that is definitely worth reading. I like the Percy Jackson series more, but both are vastly underrated.
In case anyone is wondering, Ryan was kind of right why Olympus is on the empire state building. In the books, Olympus moves around the world and it just so happens to be in the west and the empire state building is kind of the center of the west.
So, how do they know how to fight Medusa? Well, Percy remembered how Medusa was killed in the myth. Wouldn't that mean that Medusa was already dead? Whoops, oh well.
@@tylerjefferies420 isn't that quite contradictory? I feel like having a soul is pretty essential in being resurrected, and depending on how you define a soul, an intrinsic property of something that can do so.
@@okkoheinio5139 Ask Rick Riordan, I didn't write the books, I assume the soul is what ties people to the real world and its rules so when they die, real people and animals and such stay dead. Their lack of souls removes this tie from the natural order of things, thus making it possible to resurrect. But Rick's explanation might be different, I don't know.
@@tylerjefferies420 I'd imagine it's because souls get collected by Hades and end up in the Underworld. If you don't have a soul, it can't get collected and so you can't go the underworld. It still doesn't explain how they reincarnate, but if they straight up didn't die in the first place then I think it make more sense and explains why Medusa's head can still turn people into stone even while decapitated.
Without getting into soul business, the simple explanation is, the supernatural beings like monsters, gods, titans can’t be killed completely. And when monsters die, they go to a place called Tartarus and they reform there and come back when they are strong enough. So yeah, monsters come back after they’re killed in this world.
I didn’t realize “keep the plot mostly the same when adapting a novel” was such a hard conclusion to reach. Like sure, you should change it a bit, but not that much. And then they completely of the rails for Sea of monsters
If a movie forces you to read the books to answer huge questions like “Why is Mount Olympus on the Empire State Building?” Then it hasn’t done its job as an adaptation
@@Shizzy5321 basically the gods go wherever a place has the most power. They went to rome first, then Europe a bit, stayed in britain for a while till landing here in the usa.
@@Shizzy5321 to borrow from the first book "Come now, Percy. What you call Western Civilization... is a living force, collective consciousness that has burned bright for thousands of years. The gods are part of it, [a] fire started in Greece. The heart of the fire moved to Rome, and so did the gods... wherever the flame was brightest, the gods were there. They are now in your United States. Look at your symbol, the eagle of Zeus. Look at the statue of Prometheus in Rockfeller Center... like it or not-America is now the heart of the flame. It is the great power of the west. And so Olympus is here."
@@manuelmoreno1453 which the greeks settled in the East while the Romans settled in the west. which is why New York is the hotspot there and somewhere in cali is the Roman's area
@@barrys9842 I had almost forgotten the horror of that one. I learned a bunch of the individual words as well as quotes in the ancient language, and many other overly nerd-like things to prepare for the movie... I was... Let's just go with surprised...
But in the books there were no bad guys, it was just ares getting possessed by Kronos.(And don’t talk about Luke because Percy didn’t know that until until Luke poisoned him with a scorpion)
@@yoshidinono8095 Yes you can... and "Tight" is always sudden... in every single video... mostly because he says it at completely inappropriate times where it doesn't really make sense to call something tight.
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