Agreed, 100 percent!!! I actually laugh, because Fleetwood Mac is one of my favorite bands as well as original lineup Kiss, and Peter and Mick Fleetwood are underrated and underappreciated drummers and Ace and Lindsey Buckingham are truly underrated and guitarist 🎸 wise as well!!!
I agree Peter was perfect for Kiss he certainly help them create that unique, special sound, they didn’t sound like every other rock band. Eric Carr was a good hard rock drummer, but he sounds like every other hard rock drama, the same sound if you listen to songs like I love it loud, that big drum sound it’s great but it’s common. Peter made the band sound unique. I heard Paul Stanley say when our car was in the band they became a Mitu band. Meaning whenever was popular they would do, they were just like every other hand metal band during that unmasked period , but with Peter in the band they were unique. That’s all me and he was great, that means he was a perfect match for the band and they made them sound good, so he was great forecasts. And he did inspire a lot of great from as of today, most of it with his image the big drum set, all the cymbals the rising platform , all the bells and whistles it just inspired young drummers
I think you hit the nail on the head, when your sad kiss mesmerize people. I think what Peter Criss did , he wasn’t a great drummer, he was kind of a weak drummer, but he had all the bells and whistles. The big drum set, the rising platform the bells and whistles he just was mesmerizing he just inspired a lot of young drummers with his image as the cat man
I never thought Peter was a great drummer , but he help Kiss sound unique and different then the other bands of the day . I also agree a lot of great drummers credit Peter with inspiring them to play drums Mike Portnoy said Peter inspired him as he did to Brian Ticky
I agree he inspired a lot of top drummer , but it was most image , raising drum set , 8 Tom toms You could inspire someone, teach somebody, but that don’t mean you are great . If you want To hear great drum solos, Listening to Steve Smith with journey in 1983, Tommy Altridge , Mike Portnoy , Mike Mangini, Billy Cobham, Stewart Copeland, Greg bassinet, Virgil Donati Listen to a recording videos by those drummers and then tell me Peter even comes close to having a great solo, he’s using all the facts Peter with flangers .
I totally agree. In fact, 100000 years drum solo from Alive is and will be my favorite all time because of the bass drum beat and flanger throughout. Therefore, I never understood why he changed it for God of Thunder since I first heard it on Alive 2. Furthermore he played the same Alive drum solo just as a slightly slower pace during the reunion tour.
I love Peter Criss! Not every drummer has to have chops like Terry Bozzio or Bash like Bonham to be a great drummer. Peter was a unique, musical drummer. Be it the hi hat pull-offs in Dr.Love, the syncopated beats in the chorus of Shock Me, the ghost notes in 100,000 years, the ride cymbal brilliance during the solo of Nothin’ to Lose, or the simple cowbell quarter notes in Ladies Room, Peter played signature parts that enhanced the song, and inspired legions of real drummers and air drummers alike! Peter’s playing had soul and feel. It breathed! This solo is Krupa influenced and cool. Check out his solo from the January 1976 shows at Cobo Hall in Detroit- a young Peter was fast and furious- a great solo! His 1977 Detroit solo on You Tube is also a great jazz influenced piece. His 1977 Japan tour solo is awesome, demonstrating Peter’s unique feel for his tom-Tom’s and fluidity around the kit. When people slag Peter or try to compare him to other drummers, my response is simply this... Rembrandt, DaVinci, Van Gogh, and Picasso are all considered great artists, yet all of their styles are completely different. They have nothing in common, but they are all amazing. As is Peter. Eric Carr had the power. Eric Singer has the chops, both great players, to be sure, but in my opinion neither of them had the unique , signature feel, sound or soul of Peter Criss, and that’s why Peter will always be my favorite Kiss drummer... and one of my all time favorite drummers period!
Well I agree with most of the things you say, except that Peter was a moody drummer, sometimes he was real good sometimes he was terrible. He said himself he wore his emotions on his sleeve, if he was upset about something that day he would be terrible, I heard him at Madison Square Garden the 1996 reunion tour he was great he was really hitting hard he was really into it he was really 100% focused on playing that night, but I heard him like a year later he was terrible again he had ProTools all over the drums, flanges to enhance the sound they were so ringing, the overtime sounded terrible. I also disagreed with the gene Krupa thing he sounds nothing like Gene Krupa, just because your play on the floor tom toms don’t mean your Gene Krupa, did he like Gene Krupa maybe, but I could tell you for a fact he did not take private lessons from Gene Krupa I will take that to my grave, I actually had a conversation I worked with Gene Krupa for almost 3 years at that time he open the school of drumming with cozy Cole, and I said to him how are you going to teach at the school when we play six nights a week. He told me if you’re crazy I’m not going to teach I do not have the patience to teach a private lesson I will never teach a private lesson that’s a special talent that I don’t have , Peter might have but I doubt it went to the school but I have no proof that he didn’t go, but I have a fax right from gene Krupa‘s mouth saying he never taught anybody. And remember this was before kiss so Peter wasn’t famous yet so I do agree that when Peter was on he did help make that kiss sound unique he had that may have a style I can’t put my finger on it I would’ve never played say juice do I heat played it without 16th notes running through the song I wouldn’t have done that to me that sounded cheap, but it was part of what made the song unique, and different than other rock bands. And Peter did inspire a lot of people I don’t think because he was a great drummer I think because he was in calfs he has a rising platform, he had ProTools on his drums his drums sounded with loungers and the lights and the Pyro tech everything was so exciting so everybody was just inspired and wanted to be like that
it is interesting to hear what trained musicians get out of music. being untrained myself, is like being colorblind and hearing someone talk about the world of color they can see. I just play e-drums by ear- quantized in a daw I can hear the difference timing makes. curious though, do you count when you play or do you relax and feel the beat ? Cheers!
Actually nobody with real talent cares about Peter Criss he was a band drummer, he never played with anybody else. All the great drummer everybody wants to play with them like Steve Steve Gadd, he plays with Paul Simon, Eric Clapton, steely Dan, Chick Corea, Herbie Hancock everybody wants to play with Steve Gadd, Tony Royster he plays with Katy Perry, he plays with Jay Z he plays with Jay OSF stone, he plays with me not Ferguson everybody wants to play with Tony. Tony Williams he plays with Miles Davis, he plays with Herbie Hancock, he plays with Dizzy Gillespie everybody wants to play with Tony you tell me one person besides cats and to be honest they don’t even want them nobody wants to play with Peter he’s not that great.
Franks sadly wrong in his opinion but also correct. I, as a drummer was influenced by Peter Criss and a host of others but I have fond memories of Peter and others who got influenced me into drumming to this day! Chill Franky boy! This is rock and roll not Jazz!
@@What-supwiththis5448 I think Vincent was referring to @franksaldino3938 who complained that Peter wasn't a REAL drummer and mentioned a couple of people who he considers real drummers that artists want to work with. But none of the artists he mentioned are considered real rock and roll.
This is the coolest Peter Criss solo I've ever seen. As a kid of the 70's I grew up mesmerized by KISS like much of the world. Most people's favorite was Gene Paul or Ace, but I was a Peter fries guy from the beginning. I don't play drums or anything but he was my favorite KISS member. I remember riding my bike down to Tower Records and buying the albums. Awesome memories, awesome times.
To say he wasn't a great soloist must make me think you're one of those guys who thinks a good drum solo has to have double bass blowing your face off or it isn't good. This solo is dynamic, jazzy, has tons of feeling, heart and soul --- AND his endurance rocks like you said. A style like his is hard to find. I can't imagine how anyone could speak critically of this guy, unless they think drumming is a contest. Just my two cents worth.
Agreed, Peter was heavily influenced by Gene Krupa. Go and listen to a few of his Solo's for a better perspective/context. You'll definitely see his influence here. Peter was great in the 70's and drumming is not a contest.
But, this was 77 and nobody is talking about the Dynasty tour!!! The key is he looks amazing here in this drum solo, it just shows like any of his solos from 74 thru 78 he was an absolute beast and awesome!!! Go Peter
@@ACETYGRA true 77 love gun was kiss,s peak in the 70,s so for Peter. In 79 he really started to go hill but dam he was everything for kiss in the beginning. The one and only catman. Yeah I know Eric is way better but he was always held back by Gene and Paul
I really love what Peter does on his drum solos. He really lets you have it BIG in a clear and powerful way, knocking the audiences on their asses! Notice that Peter plays all of his drums that he has instead of just a chosen few drums. So many drummers in the rock era had these massive setups but they only hit a chosen few drums. This is pathetic. All great drummers should go "around the world" like Peter does, hitting all the high drums then arriving to the low drums.... FANTASTIC! We love you Peter! You are a rock legend!
Peter was not the first drummer with a big set . I saw The Who and Cream in the 60’s both had big set as did Carmine Appice and Deep Purple , Blue Oyster Cults drummer , Joe Franco in the 60’s also used two bass drums 4 rack toms and two floor toms
If I think this solo is good you got go on RU-vid put in Thomas Lang , Mike Mangini, Billy Cobbham , Virgil Donati , Greg Bissonette, Tony Royster Jr , Eric Moore , Sonny Emory , Dennis Chambers , Terry Bosio, Chris Kowal, Chad Wakeman, Butch miles, Rufus speedy Jones, duff Jackson I could name 100 more guys that have solos if you think the Peter Criss solo is good these guys will knock you out enjoy the videos
@@franksaladino3938 How about Danny Seraphine on "I'm A Man" on the 1969 album. I believe top Pop Rock drummers have a better sense of what the audience wants to hear: Bonham, Moon, Peart, Copland, Collins, Henley, Baker, Palmer, Bruford, Starr, Watts, etc....
Peter Criss inspired me to play drums when i first heard them. I was playing since 5 yrs old, and heard KISS at 10 yrs old . That was when i first heard them. He was my first idol, and i wanted to be him. All i knew then was that i loved listening to KISS and he was the greatest drummer on the planet
Yeah I was at the Alive II tour concert December 30 1977 in Atlanta GA. Great solo great band best show I ever attended. Keep rocking brothers and sisters of the K I ⚡⚡ Army ✌️🤘 Brother Gary ⚡ ⚡
@@dominickcruces9077 Singer has always been original even while wearing the cat makeup. He has always had his own stage presence and own style which is far superior to Peter.
I am woman and i never played any instrument but i have been able tô understand that Peter hás an unique style soft, criative, Hard at same time with extraordinary non boring Drums solo using literally all pieces of a drums like nobody else. He knows how tô play and explore full equipment making good music only with a drums but then he sings too PERFECT MUSICIAN❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Anyone who even suggests that Peter Criss isn't an excellent drummer hasnt seen him live and heard his drum solos. Very underrated as a drummer and much maligned!
I remember first seeing Kiss on a poster for the first time at my cousins home when I was about 5 years old around 1977. I remember it was a poster of them on stage in concert and it scared me. But I couldn't stop looking at it though. And that my friend is when I became a KISS fan. Thanks Marty
Man did you ever hear drum solos by Thomas Lang Tony Roaster jr Dennis champers Virgil donati Chris cole Carmine appice I could go on all night check out a real drum solo with flangers and effects
@@youngfeller5376 true fact. He was average on a good night. Rushed the tempo too much, repetitive boring fills, and never was capable of being consistent - unable to even replicate his own stuff accurately. Honestly, none of the initial band were great musicians. Ace was the closest with his unique style. Later Carr and Bruce Kulick and even Singer probed to be far superior musicians
a musician drumming with rhythm and creativity, makin a solo behind the skin interesting, vivid. i feel i am listening to music, not only fast and loud boom boom.
To have your musicianship stand out and stand the test of time over all these effects says A LOT. His drum sets were massive for the time and all drummers were looking to see what Peter did. Everything we have now in regards to live drum rock performance is because he raised the bar with every single tour.
Peter Criss is very underrated. I don't hear too many people bring his name up with the greatest drummers of all time talks but he is. His timing is perfect and his solos are tribal and raw. Paul and Gene always take the attention but Peter Criss is one of my favorites.
You gave no idea what your talking about . Peter was not consistently good . I head him on the reunion tour he was hitting hard , sounding awesome , but I saw other shows where Peter’s timing was terrible . Just listen to this solo , put a click on the video the timing slows and speeds up . I do give Peter credit for being a big part of making Kiss one of the biggest bands around , his drumming was different then most other hard rock drummers making Kiss sound special
He is certainly not on the list of great drummers because he is not a great drummer . I would admit he did inspire many great drummer to play drum . He was in one of the best band around playing to thousands of people , everything sound great , he was a big part of their unique sound . You don’t have to be a master great drummer to sound good in a band
Agree with other reply. His timing is not good at all. And I really doubt he could play with a click. Poor guy. I am not a hater, but he isn’t underrated at all.
@@franksaladino3938 Being a great drummer doesn't mean your Bonham or Cobham. Criss was a great drummer. One of the best of all time? No. But was he great. Yes he was a damn good drummer. People like you dont allow people to like what they like and think technicality is more important than the music.
Everybody has an opinion, some may want to appear more knowledgeable, some want to unfortunately compare, even his drumming against himself, I think if fans are enjoying it then that's what it's all about, I enjoyed, so thank you so much for posting!
Paul Stanley may have been correct about many things, but what he lost was appreciation for Peter Criss. This dude was good drummer, but more than that, he was showman, just like the rest of the band. What made this band great was their ability to share the stage. What destroyed this band was ego. Long live the members of Kiss from the kid who has loved them since he was sixteen. He is 60 now. 🎉
Your laughable Buddy Rich REALLY !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Peter is a weak rock drummer at best Most of this drum solo is terrible using flangers to improve the sound Please listen to Buddy and tell me he sounds like Peter LAUGHABLE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@@franksaladino3938: It's well known that Peter Criss, Jerry Nolan (New York Dolls), among other drummers of the time, took drum lessons from Krupa. You can put down Criss all you want. But the fact remains that Criss was the perfect percussion sound for KISS in the 70's, not to mention his vocals and character also. Without Criss, KISS doesn't become what they did. Criss also influenced countless drummers from around the world in the 70's. Tell me? How many drummers did you influence from around the world? How many $Millions did you make playing drums and singing? How many drum magazines were you featured in? lol.
Peter or Jerry Nolan absolutely did not take private lessons from Gene Krupa I worked with Gene for three years he never taught he did have a drum school with jazz drummer Cozy Cole in NYC , so maybe they went to that school , but private lesson from Gene never. I studied with Jim Chapin I know Peter took a few lessons from Jim , but Gene no way believe me Gene did not teach anybody
I followed Kiss thru high school, had never heard this solo. Surprising how many elements remind me of Peart solos. Definitely more skill shown here than you’d glean from their song tracks.
Peter wasnt the most technical drummer ever but he didn’t need to be. He was PERFECT for KISS. Neil Peart would have sounded like crap playing with Gene Simmons. ALL music has merit and ALL musicians have talent. But not all music and musicians are the same and THAT is what makes discovering mother music so awe inspiring. Years of blood sweat and tears comes down to a 3 minute solo…..that’s ROCK and ROLL!! That’s why we LOVE it…..that’s why we LIVE it!!!
Awesome drumming it's even more complicated by what even most drummers would think with the beats and techniques and that kind of stamina is simply amazing
I agree Paul could talk out of his ass like Gene . I think Peter is a weak drummer, but he did some different drumming and a big part of what made Kiss a unique band , different sounding band
ONE OF MY FAV ALL TIME DRUMMER THE VERY FIRST DRUMMER I EVEN HEARD ONE OF THE REASONS WHY I CHOSE THE DRUMS LOVE THIS PETER IS A AWESOME DRUMMER AND SINGER
I don't give a second thought to what the critics or other band -members say! I think Peter Chris should be considered as one of the greatest drummers of all time!
Felicidades, siempre lo original es mejor, Peter es único, hasta cuando canta, su voz rasposa y potente que el solo sabe levantar, su ritmo y velocidad en la bateria, lo ha demostrado en otros vídeos, Carr y Singer, no tienen la voz para cantar, ni el tema de Beth, logran hacerlo bien, en bateria son buenos, pero sigue siendo un asiento muy grande de llenar, ese esenario es maravilloso, el misterio de los cuatro originales, sin exceso de luces, pantallas y poca pirotecnia, esa era la magia y misterio del grupo, soy fan desde los 70's, gracias por subirlo, un abrazo desde Cd Neza, Estado de México.....
Way underrated, in my opinion if he was in another famous band he would get more recognition, because a lot of people didn’t take kiss seriously, But they were my fave’s!! My first album I ever bought was Dressed to kill when it was first released, I delivered a lot of newspapers for it!!
When I was a kid back in the 70's, I wanted to be a drummer because of Peter, I became one... it was Peter Criss, Neal Peart, and Nicko McBrain to inspired me to be a drummer.
@@youngfeller5376 Peter Criss is a good drummer, but this was back in the 70s, I was a kid, so it was still inspiring,,,,no need to sh*t all over my comment.
@@Vinylrebel72 all I was saying was you mentioned 2 very technical drummers then Peter who is beginner basic even in his best years. Kinda like mentioning Eddie van Halen, randy.roads and Neal young as great guitarists lol
I have no idea why Peter Chris is constantly getting disrespected. He was a fantastic drummer, was lucky enough to see him live back in the day and he blew me away !
and i will say one more thing about peter his drum style helped drummers that wanted to play,learn to play,it broke them in, so good or bad he was a influence on alot of people in the early days. and the one who want to say pissy things about him and kiss, go ahead but they are laughing at you on the way to the bank,lol
How in the bloody @&!#% hell could Paul "The Narcissist" Stanley EVER publicly state that Peter Criss couldn't hold a song together with his playing ?? And that it was HE that had to 'instruct' Pete how to drum to certain songs. Asinine !!! I've claimed it from the mountain top before and I'll claim it AGAIN .......I went from KISS Army member in the beginning to not giving one shit about their career once Peter and Ace were disbanded. The very two that really mattered during the early years. I believe that Mr. Egotistical ( Gene ) and Mr. Narcissist ( Paul ) were "afraid" that Ace and Peter were the more popular of the four. Just IMO !!!!
Hey there! I'm not that trained. I took a few years of drum lessons and some guitar and string bass lessons. But I absolutely play drums more by feel. I never count. Maybe that's "wrong" but it works for me. Mick Jagger once said that Charlie Watts had the most unique feel- that his playing breathed and he always knew when to push the Stones forward, or when to pull them back and keep them from falling off the cliff. Some drummers tend to play slightly ahead of the beat, and some play slightly behind the beat. I know this will sound crazy to many, but I tend to prefer those guys than the ones who play right on the beat. They just sound less mechanical to me. That being said, I love DEVO's original drummer Alan Myers and I love Neil Peart. I think most would agree those guys are very exacting, deliberate drummers. I guess this is why I just can't listen to music made with a programmed drum machine- it simply does not, and can not duplicate the individual dynamics, swing and feel of a human drummer.
Cuantos bateristas perfectos hay en los comentarios, Peter Criss creo una banda, estos 4 hombres forjaron el rock de los 70s y 80s, si tocas rock, escuchaste kiss, deberian tenerle mas respeto, Peter es un gran baterista, los solos son parecidos porque nunca fue un gran fanatico de hacerlos, los hacia porque eran parte del show...
Peter es y fue fenomenal Eric singer es bueno pero nunca tendrá el éxito y el carisma del gato loco Peter es único su elegante y extravagante maquillaje me voló la mente
🤘🏻 Exactamente Peter es parte de la esencia y el alma de kiss muchos no respetan pero no se dan cuenta que sin él no existiría un Eric Singer o un Eric carr porque no existiria Kiss si no hubiera estado Peter criss
this was 1977 and kiss was the biggest band in world bigger than led zep know one could beat their stage show so stop the hate for them its 40 years later there old. now if the great zep was touring they woud suck too lets get real.
My 1st concert ever 8 yo. KISS ALIVE II MADISON SQ GARDEN. In the middle of the show, all of a sudden, a plexi-glass sheild closed arrond PC. He was surrounded by fireworks, and just beat the living sh*t out of those drumms. The wildest thing I've ever seen to this day. Even this solo doesnt come close. Why oh why did he leave the band so early...maybe it had something to do with that f'ing chick Beth.
Peter Criss had his better days. This doesn't measure up to the solo on Alive during 100,000 years but it is much much better than his solo on the Psycho Circus tour at Dodger Stadium in 1998. What a tragedy of how much he fell off. His tempo on this is making my wrists sore listening to it now. Amazing how he kept it accurate. Wonder how many chemicals were in his system? I hope none but judging by what you read now you can't be sure😾🤷🤐😢
i saw kiss live in something like 1976or 1977. in the drum solo criss's entire drum platform rose up and was extended by a mechanical out over the audience as he played.
