Peter Pan & Wendy Is A Disgrace 

My favorite part was when the film without a trace of irony showed Wendy dying old and alone and cheerfully proposing this as a happy ending.

The fact that she could fly after imagining all her "girl boss" moments, including her dying alone on her couch, made me roll my eyes so hard in the back of my head I could see my brain stem.

I mean, isn't the whole point of the story that Wendy, a semi grown girl, gets introduced to a bunch of lost "boys" as a mother figure.

I find it especially hypocritical that Wendy is this independant "I don't need no man" anti motherhood girl boss, yet her mom is automatically ecstatic when she get a bunch of kids thrown at her without even asking her opinion. So, I guess girl boss is only for the main young female character? What a modern take indeed.

Tinker Bell being friendly to Wendy is extremely weird. That is their whole dynamic

Anyone else sick of Hollywood making classic villains more “sympathetic” sometimes anti-heroes and turn classic heroes into psychopaths? Almost like Hollywood is run by a bunch of evil psychopaths who sympathize with the villains.

Man Disney is just going to kill every classic Disney movie huh?

The fact that they showed Wendy slapping the pixie dust out of Peter was super gross since its supposed to show her being so girlboss and proud. Like how does slapping someone make you strong and a rolemodel, especially to kids?

Peter misses his mother too, and he KNOWS the Lost Boys all miss their mother. That’s why he brings Wendy there in the first place, so she can play at being their mother while he plays at being their father. Wendy’s presence (as the only girl) is what’s supposed to prompt change in them and remind them all of what they’ve lost, even the pirates. She’s literally the definition of a feminine hero, and they took it all away to make her “strong and independent.” Their attitude towards feminine traits and qualities is so clearly negative, you can tell they hate women.

I've said it so many times that diversity and inclusion was always a thing. At least, since I've been alive and I'm almost 40 years old. There's been women in leading roles and strong women, LGBT roles and non white leads. So many movies and shows had this. So many did it correctly. They don't want what they say. They want division, anger and conflict. Just like the media. Just like the government.

"It's a kid's movie" is such a stupid argument. Do children not have eyes, ears, and brains? A film for children should be held to an even higher standard than an adult's because they're so much more malleable. All the bullshit in this movie will be seared into their tiny minds and they will grow up to produce even worse movies.

I loved the part when Peter yelled at Hook saying “You were supposed to destroy the sith not join them”

Why are Disney so obsessed with force feeding us dull female characters by negatively changing Disney, Star Wars, Marvel characters that happens to be male. If they could just make a good story, instead of focusing on bad ass female characters, then we would appreciate these characters better.

The most WTF moment had to be when Wendy was able to fly, looked Captain Hook in the eye, then said, "It's Wendyin' time."

The original Wendy was mature, kind, and loving. She never blamed her brothers for her faults, she never abandoned the Lost Boys and acted like a motherly figure despite their aggressive ways of playing and their stupid antics, and she loved Peter Pan despite their different views about growing up and growing old. They don't need to destroy Wendy to show that she's powerful, because she already was. Everyone loved and respected her and all the boys, including Peter, only listened to her. The reason why she hated growing up was because of her father. He was always angry and serious and Wendy didn't want to be that kind of adult.

it's weird how sometimes overcompensation can lead a character right back to the same place In this case it would be Tiger Lily.... who, despite being the ultimate girlboss, is still a complete non-character and exists only to get the writers out of the repeated corners they kept writing themselves in to. She's still just a stereotyped plot device...

That snarky aggressive " so " speaks volumes . Blows my mind the kind of writers disney is hiring, all the characters are insufferable, annoying unlikable and narcissistic.

I don't understand Disney's obsession with making the classic movie villains sympathetic.

They didn't just take Captain hook's charisma they took his gorgeous raven locks too

I think the reveal that her real name was Wendy Skywalker was the best bit of the film.

I recommend watching Peter Pan (2003) and the deleted scene where Peter goes back for Wendy only to find out she's married and has a daughter. Their exchange is well acted and older Wendy looked like young Wendy. If this adaptation came out instead of Disney's, it would have been better received.

My favorite part was when Wendy stuck out her hand and said to Peter "come with me if you want to live", so strong, so empowered, I openly wept.

Hook was amazing. God, we had no clue how good we had it in the 90s

In most iterations of Peter Pan (including the FAR superior 2003 live action remake), Mr. Darling and Hook are usually played by the same actor. It’s supposed to show two different paths to adulthood. The one Wendy sees and the one Peter’s afraid of turning into. They absolutely obliterate every. single. theme in this remake. It’s abysmal.

That’s funny because we all wanted to be Rufio back in the day, and the fact that he didn’t look like me or my friends never even crossed our minds. It sucks now that kids are told they have to look like their heroes. I’ve read thousands of books and my favorite protagonist of all time is Lisbeth Salander. We have absolutely nothing in common but I’ve always admired how smart she was and how she didn’t have any fucks to give.

I love how disney had Tiger-Lilly, who could ACTUALLY be a great badass female character, and yet they throw her aside 💀💀

I’m surprised the writers are brave enough to put their names in the credits.

It’s truly one of the worst versions of Peter Pan ever constructed.

The movie all about childhood growing up and motherhood subverted to where Wendy's future dreams(not a happy memory btw) is dying alone after girl bossing herself through a writing career and this is treated as a good thing.

“The live action remake of Peter Pan and Wendy is a sack of doggy dooky” why the hell you say it like that I spit out my orange juice😭

The line “look at how they massacred my boy” would be an understatement and disney would find it offensive because I said boy

Don't you find it sad that Wendy's happy thoughts about growing up are only the ''feminist'' possibilities? Finishing school, flying a plane (probably in a war, what the fuck Wendy?), being a writer, and then dying alone. She doesn't think about starting a family. Hell, she doesn't even think about spending time with her brothers who apparently were the reason why she did a 180 about growing up in the first place! Because she has to be mature and take care of them while they're alone!

I love that Disney took the liberty of casting the Rock as Wendy. Truly changes things up by having a more diverse cast👌👌

At 12:20, the "Oh, there you are, Peter!" clip brought back so much nostalgia just now. I wasn't a very emotional kid, but I remember balling my eyes out at that scene. What a brilliant movie....God. to make something like that again is like actual magic these days... great breakdown.

They missed so many points of the original story; * Peter was a fun, energetic, cocky character because as a child everything is magical, exciting and you feel immortal * Wendy was sympathetic everything because she wanted to cling to the simplicity of childhood but knew she had to grow up as its a natural part of life, her dad was her sadness as she could see how adulthood has hidden his childhood fun * Hook and Mr Darling are played by the same actor as a symbol of adulthood and his children see growing up as a fun sucker and therefore the bad guy * Tinkerbell is tiny so she feels one emotion at a time, children can only process one emotion at a time because they are young * Wendy was calm, thoughtfully and mature, enjoying one last romp of childhood before choosing to grow - not nasty, spiteful and hateful * Peter was the hero because he chose that role, Wendy allowed it because she could let go and release from being the oldest, the grown up * The lost boys are boys because they fell out of their prams and girls are too smart for that * Tiger Lily, the pirates, mermaids etc were simply a part of Peter's imagination from of that era...they didn't need a further part than the fleeting bits that had as they were just fantasy and play * John and Michael were there to remind Wendy of family * Peter was a tragic, romantic figure who couldn't grow up (theory is he's dead) but he longed for a future and to see a different adventure but feared it too and therefore he got left behind - it was also to endear girls to the book, boys wanted to be him, girls wanted to save him This is bad in so many ways, bad script, bad landscaping, bad plot, bad casting, bad acting it's bleurgh overall Peter Pan 2003 is boss!

It's like Wendy got infected by the Mary Sue syndrome.

You forgot 3 of the best parts. 1. Wendy slaps Peter. 2. The Lost Boys are supposed to be boys because "Girls are much too smart" to become lost. Disney didn't even realize that them being boys would _help_ their message. That's how competent the writers are. And best of all, Wendy envisions her happiest future. One where she dies alone. No family, no friends even. Alone and pathetic. That's her literal dream of her future.

The director thinks his audience are idiots. When asked why doesn’t Tinkerbell glow, he said “in a live-action context, a viewer would be uncertain of where the light originates” so insulting the director clearly had never seen Hook or 2003 Peter Pan.

You address a lot of good points here, especially with how they have watered down the overall meaning of Peter Pan and it's characters. Such a missed opportunity with Jude Law as Hook. That bugs me the most out of this remake. Would like to hear more of your insight on Wendy's character in a future stream 😉 Thank you for that MASSIVE shoutout bro!!!! 🙌

3:32 Better drained of all charisma than drained of all melanin - am I right, Disney?

Just watched the animated movie again. My favorite parts are when nana the dog nurse is featured, and when hook is skipping across the water and his scream skips along with him. This live action remake has none of that kind of charm. It’s just…content.

I hope no one over looks the 2003 universal film which was amazing

As soon as I saw: "...and Wendy" I new it wasn't going to be about Peter Pan. I mean, they did it to Obi-wan Kenobi and Reeva wasn't even on the title.

I think maybe they could've done the "Hook as a former Lost Boy" angle by I dunno, having Hook and Peter have a big fight over Hook missing his mom and Hook leaving after and Peter thinking Hook had left but was actually lost at sea long enough to go mad and then be found by pirates. Returned to Neverland as a crazy old man that Peter was unable to recognize as his old friend. Hook in his crazed state attacks Peter, which leaves to Peter chopping off Hook's hand in self-defense. So the reveal of Hook as a former Lost Boy could've then been a plot twist and character moment for Peter or something. At least, that's how I would've done that plot point.

In the original Disney animated movie Peter Pan did cut hooks hand off and fed it to the crocodile. Some versions say the reason is unknown while others say it was a dare from the lost boys.

Removing the animosity between tinkerbell and Wendy is hilarious. Those two both have feelings for Peter. No F'ing way they'd be friends. Hook is great but don't forget the 2003 Peter pan film! It was an excellent adaptation of the source material.

your info being available online has always been a issue. I seen it back in 2012..... seeing old addresses, alias, and full names.... pretty creepy. Yet the govt doesnt wanna do anything about that. btw ppl that use "its a kids movie" exactly so why do you need to insert political agendas and specific narratives in a kids film.

I think we can all appreciate Hook so much more now. “Bangarang!”

Disney will never admit their live remakes suck harder than a Hoover. They'd rather double down and call us "istaphobes" when we rightfully call them out.

every live action disney movie is filmed in the tower of babel

I said it before and I'm going to mention it again... I am convinced that Disney is making them bad on purpose! Change my mind. 😂 They know exactly how people are going to respond and they do it to irate people. Maybe because they get people talking about it. Seriously, are they laundering money with these movies? Because the only other companies I know that do crap like this are studios like Asylum or whoever made movies like Sharknado and Velocipastor. Maybe they do it in the hopes that more people will hate watch it and it saves the money from having to actually put an effort. The idiotic fail in their logic is that people will not want to spend money on it. Oh, they'll watch it... but they ain't paying for it.

Bruh how’s kingdom hearts gonna survive in the future with this lack of original disney content?

Well, this is going on my ever-expanding list of Films to Avoid at all Cost.

1:17 "Black eyes... like a doll's eyes...."

So funny that - the original story, is intelligently written with great story and themes throughout. New story is like it’s written by a four year old who was falling asleep at day care while filling their nappie.

The child actors, the actress playing Wendy and Jude Law deserve better.

Moral of the story. Just watch Hook. It’s a great movie.

The Holywood writers remind me of why i stopped playing role playing games (Pen and Paper). Convenient plot devices -> Railroading self insertion -> mixing player knowledge into character knowledge, bringing ideas from our current time into the game lack of realism (even if it is fantasy, the fantasy still follows certain rules)

I love the part where Wendy announced that she now goes by Windy because she identifies as an Earth element. Sent shivers down my spine

Remember in Hook how the Lost Boys were very diverse, and nobody cared because they were actual characters who had distinct personalities? Despite there being a large number of them and the limited time they all got on screen they were able to give the boys distinctive personalities. I defy you to watch Peter's scenes with the boys when they realize it's him or the scene where Rufio dies, or when he put Thud in charge and not cry. Also, the scene where they're all putting on their armor and preparing for war is a true boss moment. At that point there's not even any words, just the coming war. Also, why is this movie so poorly lit and colored? Seriously, the color pallette looks they let Zack Snyder pick their coloring and make a lot of cinematography choices. Actually, do we know who directed this? Do we know what Zack Snyder is doing? Because he missed the point with Batman and Superman, I could easily see him missing the point with Peter Pan and Wendy. Anyways, great work as always sir, keep up the good fight. Also, I like the haircut, you look like a classier American version of Disparu (just teasing).

You know what did this formula right? Dr. Stone. That story is essentially a fantasy adventure with a wide variety of characters, male or female. None are put down or elevated. They can all carry themselves, or even show emotion. The tone is mostly comedy, but there's serious moments too. And the show knows how to handle it. Even in a mostly real world, there's color and beauty to be found. It's not dreary or depressing, even though the subject matter ought to be. To sum it up, there's a difference between a real writer and a person who writes corporate rubbish which is meant to brainwash youth.

I like the 2003 live action version. It is really good. I remember loving it when it came out. I thought it was one of the coolest movies to come out that year. It has charm, charisma, compassion, twists, and excellent character arcs. This modern version is bullshit.

The 2003 Peter Pan is so much better!

So anyone going to point how Disney is so diverse that they removed talking female characters (Mermaids) from the film (I know they appear as an Easter egg but the OG has them as actual characters) and Tiger lily's entire family and friends? Ahuh... I don't know Disney sounds like the opposite to me. Yeah the Og might have its fault with their character design but the characters themselves weren't depicted as savages like other films of that time did. In fact aren't they shown to be rather friendly with the lost boys and playing games with them? Also it's funny how the original animated film on a moral basis has quite a lot better sinister moments scattered throughout whereas Disney's version of sinister is to just tone down the lighting till neverland looks about as normal as my back garden. FFS An animated film from the 50's is kicking Disney's ass in the visual department? Also I think the crocodile from the OG has more charisma than Peter pan does in this one. Also is there no Hook screaming for Mr Smee? That's some of my favourite voice acting in a Disney animated film. Watching Hook vs the crocodile was so much fun as a kid. I can't believe this might be version of Peter pan that a lot of children grow up on.

No mention of her happy thoughts being a writer who grows old and dies alone with no family?

I cry like a baby everytime I watch hook. But the stage play with Mary Martin is easily the best peter pan iteration ever.

100 years from now, anyone who tunes in this movie will immediately think "This dreck MUST have been made in 2023!"

im racist and sexist so the only way ill ever know about these movies is from content creators. appreciate the work mate

2015's Pan is like The Dark Knight compared to this shit

I just can't believe that someone thought that it is a good idea to make a protagonist of a story about children and the need of growing up actually hate the damn children nor want any and dream of dying alone. Like WTF is wrong with a person wanting to project that kind of a message through an allegedly kids' movie and actually thinking of showing such attitude to children?

Wendy is a classic Colonizer: she arrives in a strange, isolated land, selects a local faction, helps it destroy a long-term rival faction, supports one indigenous leader against another, destroys the place and f*cks-off back to England to a grand life.

Wendy: Girl boss spinster Peter: Mexican soyboy Tinkerbell: raceswap pixie dust dispenser Captain Hook: How has he not been executed by his crew?

Surely Disney must be doing this by purpose at this point. They must see all the backlash and discourse they get from fans, and just seem to be doubling down and ignoring it, even though they are losing money and subscribers. Loved the happy Gilmore reference though 😅

"Hook" is a PHENOMENAL movie and it will absolutely be the superior version of Peter Pan until we get a true adaptation of the story. Disney did well in the '50s, but it was definitely a product of its times and children's movie format. I'd personally love to see the story brought to life one more time with a significant degree of what made "Hook" so timeless.

"I'm just kidding she's not a f*@king idiot" 😭😭😭you really had me

I just rewatched Hook instead of this movie and didn’t bother. Good stuff.

Wokeness are the new hippies of society. This too shall pass.

I like the bit when peter says "its panning time!" Then preceeds to Pan Hook everywhere

I'm glad I left the abusive Disney relationship long ago.

This new movie makes the 2003 Peter Pan look like an absolute masterpiece.

I usually can sympathize with villains from various ways, mostly based edgy, but I believe the balance happens if I support both sides if I care for them, I'm always willing to let monsters pass by if they have anything I like, but the modern stories makes everyone equally bad

Who controls most of Hollywood. It's a Country that begins with a C and ends in an A and has five letters.

Poor kids, their careers never had a chance. SMH

I'm so tired of motherhood being portrayed as a bad thing. As if the moment you become a mother, your life is over. As if motherhood is a prison instead of the wonderful, fulfilling thing that it is for the vast majority of women. Motherhood is the most important thing a woman can do. Raising the next generation so our species can carry on. That it has been twisted into something that hurts women is a travesty, and I hate that our entertainment elites continue to push that message.

Remember in that other Disney piece of shit "Raya" they also say "Remind me never to have kids." The anti-family company.

To quote the original 1953 movie, "All this has happened before, and it will all happen again."

6:57 Meet the new girl boss - same as the old girl boss!

My day always gets better when I see cynic releases a new vid ♥️

You know a movie sucks when it manages to make Jude Law as charismatic as Tommy Wiseau.

Forgot to mention about 2003 version of "Peter Pan" because this version is lot modern fairy tale story of Peter Pan. Plus Jason Isaac is incredibly classic Captain Hook, Peter Pan might be a 00's pop star dude, but he makes the Peter Pan a youthful driven main character, and it stays form to the J.M Barrie's storytelling done good. Also "Peter Pan & the Pirates" is indeed a classic underrated show in Fox Kids at the early 90's.

If you want a phenomenal Peter Pan story where the relationship between Hook and Peter is actually well done and the story actively leans into Peter being a complete psycho, I can highly reccomend the book "Lost Boy" by Christina Henry.

The actress who played wendy would never have been in this movie if her parents weren't Mila Jovovich and Paul WS Anderson. Not even bad acting can stop nepo babies 😂

Anybody else notice that Hook's hook changes side when it's convenient? He usually has it on his right hand, but then it changes to left when he duels Peter with the sword in right hand @4:11

They won't stop until they drill the message into everyone's skull with a 1 and 3/8s drill bit. Ironically this gets closer to the group Walt Disney himself supported... interesting

Peter Pansexual.

The part where Peter says, "It's Panin time," and throws on his spider suit to face hook was incredible 😢

Disney is not making movies that are more realistic, non problem magic etc. they’re actively still making a more fictional and problematic because as you said, Peter is a gaslighting ass who actively ruined the life of his friends and let me add stalked wendy, and then they removed a lot of the conflict like tinker bell and Wendy which was a fun, realistic part as Wendy and seemingly tinker being young would make sense to have conflicts over boys as that is a normal thing.

If they're going to change this much of the story and characters, wouldn't it just be easier to write an entirety new film?

I’ve adored Peter Pan since I was little. It was my favorite Disney Movie (I’ve seen it at least 100 times), I read the actual book when I was 16, and I loved the 2003 movie because it stayed true to the book and the animated film. I didn’t like Hook because of how far it strayed from the source material….and I don’t even want to watch this new movie. Why?! Why did they destroy the characters and the plot SO MUCH?! 😩

You forget that the original Peter Pan was a psychopath, too. This movie actually portrayed him right.