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Peter Thiel on Political Theology | Conversations with Tyler 

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In this conversation recorded live in Miami, Tyler and Peter Thiel dive deep into the complexities of political theology, including why it’s a concept we still need today, why Peter’s against Calvinism (and rationalism), whether the Old Testament should lead us to be woke, why Carl Schmitt is enjoying a resurgence, whether we’re entering a new age of millenarian thought, the one existential risk Peter thinks we’re overlooking, why everyone just muddling through leads to disaster, the role of the katechon, the political vision in Shakespeare, how AI will affect the influence of wordcels, Straussian messages in the Bible, what worries Peter about Miami, and more.
Recorded February 21st, 2024
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@RJTroncoso
@RJTroncoso 28 дней назад
I like Peter Thiel… I feel like he questions everything and that is really important.
@harrison6082
@harrison6082 2 месяца назад
It's nice to hear Peter's latest ideas and perspective. 9:00 14:47 16:59 19:58 35:28 49:15 53:35 56:55 1:01:02 1:03:56 1:15:18 1:16:26 1:19:28
@awh4272
@awh4272 8 дней назад
Thank you. The enter key is ur friend!
@user-wu9nc1hq7o
@user-wu9nc1hq7o 2 месяца назад
peter on thumbnail. im in
@RJTroncoso
@RJTroncoso 28 дней назад
Hey Peter! I’m religious and I think you are a good person. I do agree with you questioning the bible as I feel like the bible has been tampered with.
@AlexMacGregor
@AlexMacGregor Месяц назад
Great discussion!
@colastaylor2055
@colastaylor2055 2 месяца назад
Excellent video, ties back in the foundational principle that you want to be consciously consistently criticising your established perception of yourself
@lakshitchopra758
@lakshitchopra758 2 месяца назад
Peter Thiel is a bona fide polymath! :)
@Nora-ei4ph
@Nora-ei4ph 7 дней назад
Interesting stuff Mr.Peter Thiel, multi Billionaire !❤
@davidkey4272
@davidkey4272 2 месяца назад
Whoah! Where did this come from. This just made my day
@_1jay
@_1jay 2 месяца назад
No (direct) questions about aging tech? "I remain committed to the faith of my teenage years: to authentic human freedom as a precondition for the highest good. I stand against confiscatory taxes, totalitarian collectives, and the ideology of the inevitability of the death of every individual. " Peter Thiel, 2007 The Education of a Libertarian
@danecjensen
@danecjensen Месяц назад
Chapters (Powered by ChapterMe) - 00:00 - Hello, Peter and Teller 00:06 - Political theologys importance in modern society 04:51 - Calvinism scapegoats God for mistakes 06:40 - Libertarianisms middle ground Catholicism, Eastern Orthodox, Lutherans 08:17 - Orthodox Christian views on Gods continuity with progressives 12:02 - Bronze Age pervert alternative, victimhood, Christian inspiration 17:02 - Powerful political division explains Berlin Wall collapse 20:03 - Predicting liberalisms collapse in Weimar, West Germany 23:11 - Millenarianism and apocalyptic fears 26:33 - Eschatological fear of oneworld totalitarian government 30:03 - US becoming more federalistic, authoritarian, chaotic 31:18 - Peace and safety over global chaos 36:05 - Muddling through Antiintellectual distrust, distrust in human agency 37:08 - Catacomb mysterious force that restrains oneworld state 41:06 - Lutheranisms emphasis on human agency 44:06 - Shakespeares characters differing worldviews 46:54 - Shakespearean Brutuss role in Julius Caesars conspiracy 49:13 - AIs impact on society, Silicon Valleys failure 50:07 - Predicting AIs impact on math 53:23 - Questions about AIs impact on society 56:53 - Personalities hedgehog, fox, and crypto 59:46 - Physicist Nick Bostrom explains why he supports longworld government 01:01:39 - Straussian messages in political theology 01:05:08 - Star Treks centralized future 01:07:48 - Utility in postmodern world 01:08:11 - Lincolns political religion and personal history 01:09:11 - Competitive track and field led to Stanford success 01:09:23 - New York Citys top law firm Everybody wanted in 01:09:35 - Struggling with medic crisis, scaling Teal Fellowship 01:12:44 - Machiavellian influence in Silicon Valley 01:13:26 - Walmarts antiunion tactics in the 2000s 01:17:36 - AIs centralization and stagnation 01:21:09 - Future doubling down on AI 01:21:22 - Silicon Valleys role in world order 01:23:48 - Miamis local governance needs improvement 01:24:09 - Miamis Georgist Real Estate 01:25:16 - AIs role in politics and theology 01:26:57 - What is the model generated?
@bikerbhutani
@bikerbhutani Месяц назад
You are a hero
@andreferretti7087
@andreferretti7087 2 месяца назад
How did no one ask Peter's opinion on the public debt bubble (and money printing)? He even explicitly linked the US in the 2020s to the Weimar Republic in the 1920s!
@nathanngumi8467
@nathanngumi8467 2 месяца назад
Great discussion and questions!
@JohnVandivier
@JohnVandivier Месяц назад
That part when Peter recited TULIP ❤
@user-ql4ud9zr7m
@user-ql4ud9zr7m 2 месяца назад
I understood half of it, where can I learn more?
@andrewhooper7603
@andrewhooper7603 2 месяца назад
They should have pressed him on automations effects on the working class.
@Jefemcownage
@Jefemcownage Месяц назад
Ozempic working nicely
@thomasp.1828
@thomasp.1828 2 месяца назад
Spartan dress. Peter's neck is very sculptable.
@andrewhooper7603
@andrewhooper7603 2 месяца назад
​@gregb954 🤞
@FeterPrahm
@FeterPrahm 2 месяца назад
​@gregb954yeah he doesn't look particularly healthy
@SP-ye8hj
@SP-ye8hj 2 месяца назад
Pretty gay dude
@resurrectingexcellence
@resurrectingexcellence 2 месяца назад
He's probably got aids
@user-ql4ud9zr7m
@user-ql4ud9zr7m 2 месяца назад
It looks ugly , not sculptable
@MetricsOfMeaning
@MetricsOfMeaning 2 месяца назад
11:59 BAP Yarvin Hazony connection very relevant
@dmystfy
@dmystfy 2 месяца назад
His answer to the question at 10:07 was unexpected!
@reedjohnny4635
@reedjohnny4635 2 месяца назад
1:21:46 "delve", Paul Graham isn't happy.
@vanessa1569
@vanessa1569 2 месяца назад
Again, why am I always surprised by Thiel? He’s a bit of an enigma.
@nickelmouse451
@nickelmouse451 2 месяца назад
Wrapped in a sensual, sensual body
@WongTag
@WongTag 2 месяца назад
In this world of ideologically motivated masses, he appears heterodox. I suspect more of us are similarly circumspect and wise if not as intelligent. It’s just not a behavior directly rewarded by our contemporary systems.
@bankspeete1057
@bankspeete1057 24 дня назад
Has anyone found the essay he is talking about at 29:50 on AI risk?
@JusticeConder
@JusticeConder 2 месяца назад
Secular christianity
@RozkminaRozwojowa
@RozkminaRozwojowa 2 месяца назад
Zero to One - fantastic!!!!
@FionaHuang-xh7nw
@FionaHuang-xh7nw 2 месяца назад
Peter Thiel
@IslamicRageBoy
@IslamicRageBoy 2 месяца назад
First
@libaax1342
@libaax1342 2 месяца назад
There is this dualism in Peter, "fight" on one side against world control/existential risks relating to "one partysms"/control AND investments in Palantir enable control/collection of data that facilitate the existential risks he is "fighting".
@FeterPrahm
@FeterPrahm 2 месяца назад
while I appreciate his philosophical insights, I dislike the companies he invests in
@julianjdogg
@julianjdogg 2 месяца назад
It makes sense if you want to win. You bet on both sides.
@juanvaladez5703
@juanvaladez5703 Месяц назад
He’s a hypocrite, it’s quite simple.
@skrrskrr3241
@skrrskrr3241 Месяц назад
feter Phram haha stark
@user-37a20dcbea4
@user-37a20dcbea4 29 дней назад
@@juanvaladez5703 Contrarian or contradictory would be a more neutral term
@MarsBorg
@MarsBorg 2 месяца назад
Thetan Speil - Ameropath
@wil3
@wil3 2 месяца назад
peter is the closest thing we have to niccolò machiavelli in these times. Always a pleasure to hear from him
@sebastianaguiarbrunemeier9192
@sebastianaguiarbrunemeier9192 2 месяца назад
In which Thiel reinvents himself as a Biblical scholar
@junkscience6397
@junkscience6397 Месяц назад
Still FAR more fact filled than your empty comment....
@sakurachristineito6428
@sakurachristineito6428 Месяц назад
If you close your eyes, his voice sounds like Mark Zuckerberg...how come all Silicon Valley entrepreneurs talk the same way? It's like they're the same AI programmed software installed in different robots
@ryankane9500
@ryankane9500 2 месяца назад
"optimistic boomer libertarian like you" only real miladys felt this one
@VisibleTrouble
@VisibleTrouble 2 месяца назад
39:00 - Mistaking Properties for Features- he will make the same mistake… too smart to not know.
@healthymealthy775
@healthymealthy775 2 месяца назад
Catacon? did I get that right?
@austinjensen8464
@austinjensen8464 2 месяца назад
*Katechon
@ASwagPecan
@ASwagPecan 2 месяца назад
Max Azzarello send anyone else here?
@veronicapadilla7912
@veronicapadilla7912 2 месяца назад
not just you lol
@nah8845
@nah8845 2 месяца назад
As much as Thiel is an anti-communist, I am an anti-libertarian/anti-liberal. However, even though I essentially disagree on probably most everything, I'm quite struck at how much more of an intellectual Thiel is in comparison to his billionaire contemporaries. At minimum, I appreciate his thoroughness and depth in intellectual pursuits and that at least inspires me to take my own intellectual pursuits more seriously so as to be able to have even more profound and well versed counter-logic to his what I believe to be heinous and evil conception of humanity, liberalism, and the "meaning" of life.
@curtissnow9546
@curtissnow9546 Месяц назад
Crazy how he isn’t just a strawman based on your preconceived notions of what libertarianism means. The state is the enemy of freedom, it is the vehicle through which the criminals called “the elite” maintain their status on control on those lower than them century by century. Capitalism is a threat to their control because innovation and entrepreneurship create competition, societal change, quality of life standards (and expectations), and independence from government control. Please read the road to serfdom, they have blinded us with lies and comfort while they build a cage to trap us in
@user-37a20dcbea4
@user-37a20dcbea4 Месяц назад
Interesting!
@nickmcg721
@nickmcg721 Месяц назад
I’m curious, what are you pro?
@nah8845
@nah8845 Месяц назад
@@nickmcg721 universalist emancipation/socialism/little "c" communism. Effectively anti-individualism, anti-capitalism, but open to the orthodox Marxist view of a sublimated liberal-market economy. So in short, an inversion of Thiel's ideal world.
@nah8845
@nah8845 Месяц назад
@@nickmcg721 dang I responded this morning, but it doesn't seem it worked? Bummer. In short: socialism, or what I would call: emancipatory universalism; maybe even small "c" communism. Effectively the absolute inverse of the world that Peter Thiel postulates.
@jaythefox
@jaythefox 2 месяца назад
Ayn Rand wasn't Jewish, she was Greek.
@cristianst85
@cristianst85 2 месяца назад
In a sense, yes. Because her philosophy was much influenced of Aristotle.
@61757
@61757 2 месяца назад
Chatgpt said, when i asked if Kamala would cone with a market crash, it replied, we cannot say anything bad about the vice president....AI not so smart
@jacc9061
@jacc9061 20 дней назад
I disagree with most of Peter’s assumption’s, not because they’re implicitly wrong, but because he generalizes them to extremes that are inaccurate.
@shannon-daygrant8754
@shannon-daygrant8754 2 месяца назад
are the prostitute and bank robber equivalent? re: 1:15 ish...because from a libertarian perspective (like Thiels) isn't the prostitute morally superior to the bank robber? unless he was talking about it from Rosa Luxembourg's pov...
@maxsebastian
@maxsebastian 2 месяца назад
He needs to lay off the ozempic
@letitflow1120
@letitflow1120 19 дней назад
Think it’s actually amphetamines
@jennetal.984
@jennetal.984 2 месяца назад
Can you just drop Karl Schmitt’s name and not expect a phone call from your donors?
@harbifm766766
@harbifm766766 2 месяца назад
He lost a lot of weight..hpefully not because of a cell growth mutation
@timothybrosz7697
@timothybrosz7697 2 месяца назад
how would he ever talk to a student
@kbkesq
@kbkesq 2 месяца назад
Assign reading to be completed before the conversation. Student wouldn’t have to know everything he knows as a 50-something.
@carlosmanueljager169
@carlosmanueljager169 2 месяца назад
Poor Tyler
@kyleward5249
@kyleward5249 2 месяца назад
Dang, Perhaps my view of Peter was ill informed previously because I thought as a successful entrepreneur he was more of an original thinker. And maybe it was due to the line of questioning but it seemed he was either plugging other world views with the constant combatants of how he can't quite subscribe to a certain existing theology. Or he was trying to avoid the soapbox. He just decided for whatever reason to not turn and face a more conclusive perspective. What do I know maybe originality is unachievable
@MetricsOfMeaning
@MetricsOfMeaning 2 месяца назад
His reasoning is very via negativa, or apophatic. He inducts from and toward the negative of concepts, rather than over stretching and affirming a concepts existence. It’s why he’s libertarian, he’s anti holistic systematic methods that positively asserts.
@matthewlee7287
@matthewlee7287 2 месяца назад
Peter is a student of Rene Girard whose entire philosophy revolved around mimesis and imitation. I have a feeling Peter doesn't believe it's that possible or easy to be truly original. He probably subscribes to the idea that imitation is fundamental to our nature.
@virtualpilgrim8645
@virtualpilgrim8645 24 дня назад
5:00 Thiel misrepresents Calvinism. He says that Calvinist blame "Mr. God" for their sins. That is incorrect. Your sins are your own and your own only.
@spiralizing
@spiralizing 2 месяца назад
Yikes
@g.o.9513
@g.o.9513 2 месяца назад
Peter is probably the highest level in Helldivers 2
@kbkesq
@kbkesq 2 месяца назад
I’m here to hear if Peter thinks the end of the world is here. A few years ago he pooh poohed AI but now it’s a huge factor. He had vision moving palantir out of California specifically San Francisco and just look at how bad Google is with employees revolting to support Hamas. Look at universities from top to bottom failing.
@morganp7238
@morganp7238 2 месяца назад
Is Thiel ill or just thinning up? I hope it is the latter. He was not in good shape.
@brycewaddell5673
@brycewaddell5673 2 месяца назад
He’s on diabetic meds
@kevinlong4657
@kevinlong4657 2 месяца назад
maybe his blood boy is on vacation
@HiberNAT
@HiberNAT 2 месяца назад
Ozempic face 👀
@Neight0
@Neight0 Месяц назад
TRT also, perhaps. Not a criticism, just an observation of his neck/clavicular tension, and skin complexion in that area. Particularly common with exogenous hormone use.
@Mashers111
@Mashers111 16 дней назад
Life proving hes a waste of space lol
@cherylwilder7369
@cherylwilder7369 2 месяца назад
Read the book of Revelation in the Bible...the pages are litterally unfolding on the world stage...only God himself would have known the future..Jesus is coming back soon
@burtonsankeralli5445
@burtonsankeralli5445 2 месяца назад
AI can render the Anti Christ superfluous.
@andrewhooper7603
@andrewhooper7603 2 месяца назад
Elaborate
@burtonsankeralli5445
@burtonsankeralli5445 2 месяца назад
@@andrewhooper7603 AI may soon be able to do everything tbe antiChrist does and better
@oath4717
@oath4717 Месяц назад
ai could manifest as the Antichrist, as most AI is woke, like chatgpt, and opposes morality and religion itself
@juanvaladez5703
@juanvaladez5703 Месяц назад
@@burtonsankeralli5445 like what? Provide a specific example.
@davidanalyst671
@davidanalyst671 Месяц назад
Peter Thiel said he wasn't a calvinist because of a philosophy book written by Girard. Thiel just used a philosophy book to judge a religious book. That doesn't even make sense.
@DanHowardMtl
@DanHowardMtl 2 месяца назад
Daniel was written after the fact pretending to be prophetic.
@juanvaladez5703
@juanvaladez5703 Месяц назад
Yeah ok demon. The jig is up!
@ubergenie6041
@ubergenie6041 2 месяца назад
So Theil seems to understand the incoherence of Calvinism 😮 Theology proper must ask about the nature of god. Instead we get an interview that runs through,”Why aren’t you x, why aren’t you y, so then are you z?” Very pedantic. Why not start with what we think we know to be true about the nature of god if such a being exists and then move towards the organization of societies given god’s nature and also man’s condition in god’s world? How does this get to the central religious questions: Where did we come from? Where are we going when we die? How should we live our lives morally if there is indeed an objective source of morality? How do I relate to god? How do we organize a society that operates the way god would want me us to?
@tuckerbugeater
@tuckerbugeater 2 месяца назад
cope
@matthewjnyman
@matthewjnyman 2 месяца назад
Very much agree on your preference for the discussion. Would have liked to see this too. On your intro comment, I think Calvin-ism has become a dissection of parts stretched to extremes. But could you say that Calvin's views don't share the same degree of incoherence?
@tripp8833
@tripp8833 2 месяца назад
He's really worried about a one-world state... How exactly is that going to work with Iran, Israel, US, China, Saudi Arabia? They're just going to wake up and decide to get along one day?
@SP-ml9je
@SP-ml9je 2 месяца назад
he does not look well...
@hcharton5722
@hcharton5722 2 месяца назад
Talk about being in your own head, wow.
@KRGruner
@KRGruner 6 дней назад
God, is Cowen dumb... Thiel, on the other hand, has useful ideas.
@juanvaladez5703
@juanvaladez5703 Месяц назад
He looks demonic.
@mandyshanks2327
@mandyshanks2327 2 месяца назад
Is he speaking English? No idea what he is talking about.
@schwajj
@schwajj 2 месяца назад
It’s extremely comprehensible, for the most part. Most likely you’re missing relevant background (as I am on some of the theological points, eg: Calvinism).
@timothybrosz7697
@timothybrosz7697 2 месяца назад
does he know anything ... just lucky he made a lot of money
@Analyst2019pro
@Analyst2019pro 2 месяца назад
Dude he’s a Stanford law grad hahaha
@loremipsum685
@loremipsum685 2 месяца назад
saying "the woke" non-ironically is not only utterly cringe but utterly out of touch
@letitflow1120
@letitflow1120 19 дней назад
Me thinks This guy is not who he purports to be lol
@AnilSardemann
@AnilSardemann 2 месяца назад
Whataboutism: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism?wprov=sfla1
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