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Phoenix Suns Since '68: Barkley vs MJ 

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Sir Charles Barkley faced-off against Michael Jordan in the 1993 NBA Finals.

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@yakubamansaray4676
@yakubamansaray4676 5 лет назад
1:10 to 1:41 Tom Chambers cut to the heart of all the debates right there.
@jamiesmith760
@jamiesmith760 5 лет назад
Wow... being a UNC Tar Heel & Chicago Bull fan obviously Michael Jordan gave me soo many many amazing moments but to hear guys like Barkley, Ewing, Miller, Malone, Stockton tell the other side of the story you realize that guy broke more hearts & ended more dreams than anybody ever. For a guy like Charles Barkley to go home after scoring 40 points in an NBA finals game, a feat 99.9% of players will never come close to, thinking I am not better than this guy... wow. There's many ways to define greatness. The fact that so many incredibly proud men were forced to concede Mike was better is as telling a testament as any that Michael Jordan is the greatest
@pharoewisethegemini1764
@pharoewisethegemini1764 4 года назад
Why the hell is Scott Williams commentating! It's like he is driving a knife thru suns fan with that goofy laugh of his knowing he beat the sun's but on the bench
@emmabach4510
@emmabach4510 5 лет назад
Much respect Charles
@shadyboy5090
@shadyboy5090 5 лет назад
emma bach Shaq needs to stop making fun of Charles for having no rings he played with Kobe one of the greatest players ever and a bunch of great role players as well and also Dwayne wade in his athletic peak. Dan Marley and Kevin Johnson were all stars but they weren’t good enough to close out games.
@larrygauld8208
@larrygauld8208 4 года назад
Best Power Forward I've seen in my life!!! That Sun's team was special! Thanks Charles!!!
@myfriendbobby
@myfriendbobby 4 года назад
It's a shame you never watched Duncan play.
@TheSands83
@TheSands83 Год назад
@@myfriendbobbyprime chuck honestly was arguably better. 89-93 chuck was a monster dude
@CliffPierson777
@CliffPierson777 5 лет назад
That game 2, they both had 42 pts with triple doubles but Jordan down the stretch just torched the suns with his isolation moves and jump shooting. Barkley played his ass off but you're playing Michael in his peak. Very similar to Clyde and the 92' Blazers, like Chambers said - Jordan just elevates his game to the highest plateau
@mathewhorodner2000
@mathewhorodner2000 3 года назад
Kevin Johnson was not very existent in that game, and losing Ceballos to a foot injury in game 6 against Seattle in the Western Conference Finals wasn't exactly the best timing. No one expected Barkley to outperform Jordan. Barkley didn't have the help. The Suns were pitiful at home, especially in game 1. Game 2 cost the Suns the series. Kevin Jonson was a totally different player on the road (in Chicago), and so was the Suns team. That Suns team didn't even come close to showing up in the first two games in Phoenix...not even close. The Suns screwed themselves royally because they should have won all 3 games in Chicago. Kevin Johnson coughed up the ball and turned it over at the end of game 4 (The Suns only won games 1 and 3 in Chicago).
@arsonhakobyan
@arsonhakobyan 3 года назад
@@mathewhorodner2000 I remember the series like it was yesterday cheering for the Suns. Kevin Johnson was my favorite player at the time, but I liked the team, and Barkley in a different way too. KJ needed to rush back for Game 2 a bit early w/ his still sore knee, since the Suns lost Game 1 in the Lakers series. He was much better as the playoffs went along, but still I'd say only about 85% in the Finals. Also, Frank Johnson's boneheaded decision to get underneath Barkley at end of 3rd quarter of Game 2 to try and get a rebound, instead of just get the hell out the way so Barkley could get it (as KJ would've done), cost the Suns that 2nd game. And despite KJs struggles in Game 2, I still would've played him a bit more during the middle stretch of that game than Paul Westphal did, being that he makes smart decisions, and da Bulls still have to honor his ability to penetrate to the basket, where he's good at drawing fouls, or finishing w/ either hand. Frank Johnson you don't have to worry about breaking down your defense. Barkley finished w/ 42pts & 13boards, but he wasn't the same that whole 4th quarter. He was outplaying MJ in that one through 3, and would easily have finished w/ at least 45pts & at least 15boards in the contest if not for the bummed elbow in the 4th quarter, which affected him the rest of the series. He couldn't shoot a shot from outside the paint from that point forward, and it made him just a tad less fierce crashing the boards, being as he had to protect that shooting elbow. I believe the Suns were the best team da Bulls beat in the Finals (when at full strength), but you need some luck to win 6 championships in 8yrs, as great as Jordan is. He's better than Barkley, even in Barkley's MVP campaign, but I believe the Suns w/ even just Ceballos, or no Ceballos, but Barkley at full strength, would've beaten da Bulls in 93, for da Bulls weren't deep that yr. like they were in 92.
@WobblinGoblin1
@WobblinGoblin1 2 года назад
@@arsonhakobyan Good analysis. I'll go in a little different direction: if Barkley would have been traded the year before, the Suns would have won the Finals in '92 against the Bulls because Tom Chambers had aged A LOT over the course of that year. By the time the spring of '93 rolled around, he was a shell of his former self. The Suns needed the old Chambers, not the new "old" Chambers.
@arsonhakobyan
@arsonhakobyan 2 года назад
@@WobblinGoblin1 I agree with you fully on Tom Chambers, but da Bulls were actually quiet deep in 92, and with both Pippen and Grant having the best season of their careers, I don't think the 93 Suns beat da 92 Bulls with the 92 Chambers. But it would've been them instead of the Trail Blazers in the Finals. Heck, they should've won Games 1, 2 and 4 against the Blazers as it was in 92, but at least two of those.
@zenkiev4486
@zenkiev4486 4 года назад
Chuck, Sir Charles, round mound of rebound, the best PF overall during his prime simple.
@brettrobb6769
@brettrobb6769 4 года назад
This was the year I started following basketball as a 12 year old kid from Australia and Phoenix is still my team to this day.
@devilsadvocate269
@devilsadvocate269 4 года назад
Any NBA fan should have mad respect for Chuck. Dude was a beast. I actually wished Phoenix would've won those 2 championships in 94 and 95.
@mathewhorodner2000
@mathewhorodner2000 3 года назад
If Joe Klein never stepped on Danny Manning's foot, they would have easily won the championship those years
@vudujl83
@vudujl83 4 года назад
someone posted this on another video - Barkley: God wants us to win a championship MJ: I am God (then proceeds to avg 40 in the series)
@andrewhoyle1521
@andrewhoyle1521 4 года назад
I saw that, I loved it
@KazenoniKakuremi
@KazenoniKakuremi 4 года назад
Nah the quote is Barkley: good wants us to win a championship After loss Reporter: I thought God wanted you to win the championship Barkley: My bad. I didn't realize God was wearing No. 23 for the Chicago Bulls."
@rayburntsosie7036
@rayburntsosie7036 4 года назад
It’s ok CB... you brought us some good memories!! Go SUNS!!
@erikhopkins9488
@erikhopkins9488 4 года назад
It's about time this suns team got some respect!
@j3fflb
@j3fflb 4 года назад
Well Chuck you had your chance in 94-95 while MJ was retired!
@spidey0123
@spidey0123 4 года назад
Best PF overall in prime, that includes intangibles. Never need a stockton, or Parker...
@ericmarcos7063
@ericmarcos7063 4 года назад
The Suns put up the fiercest challenge to the Bulls in all their finals appearances at their prime.
@rojeliocirilo3493
@rojeliocirilo3493 4 года назад
eric marcos they were in triple OT too
@Sassonic
@Sassonic 4 года назад
Kevin Johnson and Dan Majerle had such a fantastic regular season in 1993, and they didn't play that well in the finals. Kevin Johnson had such a quickness advantage versus the Bulls' point guards and he didn't take advantage of it enough.
@mathewhorodner2000
@mathewhorodner2000 3 года назад
Losing Cedric Ceballos to injury at the end of the Seattle series in the Western Conference Finals threw the Suns out of sync against the Bulls. That was the worst time for that to happen. I think that kind of threw off the rhythm, especially the first 2 games.
@Sassonic
@Sassonic 3 года назад
@@mathewhorodner2000 Still, you can't understate how Kevin Johnson didn't exploit B.J. Armstrong and John Paxon enough. KJ had such a quickness advantage versus those two very slow point guards and he could have penetrated a lot more and the bulls didn't even have a good shot blocker in the lane... And Dan Majerle was hitting everything that year and left his game at home for the finals, and it wasn't all MJ's defense, Thunder Dan was just ice cold except for if I recall one game he was on...
@mathewhorodner2000
@mathewhorodner2000 3 года назад
The Suns were struggling all throughout the playoffs, starting with the Lakers. They finally started playing WAY better and well at times against Seattle. The Suns team seemed to play a disappearing act a great deal of the time in the playoffs. Otherwise, they would have won. You, also, have Cedric Ceballos whom they lost to a broken foot in game 6 against Seattle in the Western Conference Finals, and Charles Barkley being injured on his elbow/arm (draining fluid); things couldn't go any worse for the Suns. None of these things were talked about in the media during the Finals.
@Sassonic
@Sassonic 3 года назад
@@mathewhorodner2000 I recall the Lakers series being tight and the Suns down 2-0 but Nick Van Excel also played out of his mind, he was in a zone and unguardable. I put less emphasis on Ceballos because Dumas was almost interchangeable, again it was Kevin Johnson not exploiting the Bulls PG's, it's not an exaggeration to say BJ Armstrong was the slowest starting PG in the league, and Paxson wasn't quick either.
@mathewhorodner2000
@mathewhorodner2000 3 года назад
@@Sassonic Ceballos could get offensive rebounds. That would have made a difference. Also, I realized that Paxson and Armstrong shot about 50% from 3-point territory in the series; they shot the lights out. Barkley's elbow was swollen and had fluid in it, and Barkley wasn't shooting well. He mostly had a bad series shooting from the outside.
@leoleorueras904
@leoleorueras904 27 дней назад
The main reason why I think Charles is the greatest Suns player ever is because he did not want his name in that classic and all time Suns team in 2K without that condition about 1M dollars compensation towards all retired players. This guy is just different.
@rGGdom
@rGGdom 4 года назад
You did what you could Chuck... you did what you could.
@mathewhorodner2000
@mathewhorodner2000 3 года назад
The gambling gossip with Jordan got Jordan going, and he had the best playoff series of his life. That was the worst timing for the Suns.
@jaust9077
@jaust9077 Год назад
Also, MJ struggled(for his standards) against a very physical, demanding Knicks defense in the previous series). He had much more space against the Suns because they had neither a Starks, nor Ewing.
@scottkilljoy4333
@scottkilljoy4333 4 года назад
Always liked Charles, and loved the Suns! The toughest loss was game 5 against the rockets in 95 though
@codychavarria6088
@codychavarria6088 4 года назад
Charles Barkley you need a get on and get the Phoenix Suns also on EA sports 2 K
@bertrandqualo8147
@bertrandqualo8147 4 года назад
Incredible athlete but 6.4 hahaha more like 6.6
@louieDsypo
@louieDsypo 3 года назад
I was in chicago 6 yrs old and i liked Dan Majerle .. i thought he could never miss a 3ptr
@munimathbypeterfelton6251
@munimathbypeterfelton6251 3 года назад
You couldn't have drawn up a fiercer dagger for the Suns than to have had the best record in the league, the NBA's Most Valuable Player, home court advantage all throughout the playoffs, only to lose it all in six games in the NBA Finals--especially losing all three of your home games in the series at that!
@Funkgun
@Funkgun 3 года назад
Thought we had it that year. Picked up some old Finals talent with Ainge, had Chambers twilight of his career but could still hit a key shot or 2, had Thunder Dan who looked like he could have been a future star, KJ and Barkley actually had more points on average in the playoffs than in the regular season. But the well oiled machine of Jordan/Pippen (I'd have said Grant, but his numbers were quite a bit lower) rolled into town.
@shotgunarms
@shotgunarms 3 года назад
Sir Charles is a fkn legend
@0-Elias-0
@0-Elias-0 Год назад
Gracious in Defeat.
@sugizo8011
@sugizo8011 3 года назад
Sir. Charles only one player can handle one on one against as much as MJ play.
@76JStucki
@76JStucki 4 года назад
pretty sure Charles is the only person on earth who would put himself 2nd to MJ.
@ihooptvchannel521
@ihooptvchannel521 4 года назад
Joel Stucki if you were alive to witness this finals you would understand why he would believe that
@jayg8518
@jayg8518 4 года назад
@@ihooptvchannel521 Facts
@Mari000
@Mari000 2 года назад
Barkley fought hard. Good for him.
@boogitybear2283
@boogitybear2283 3 года назад
Chuck is the Phoenix Suns.
@mariorcanazza2267
@mariorcanazza2267 4 года назад
Amazing video, thanks.
@unclequack5445
@unclequack5445 4 года назад
Hackmad Rashshit Aaha ha ha...…...
@ronniemorales5485
@ronniemorales5485 4 года назад
Salute!
@scared08ph
@scared08ph 4 года назад
Many humans cant understand that its Chicago Bulls vs. Charles Barkley.
@raphaelpaz3299
@raphaelpaz3299 4 года назад
Lorenz Reyes shut up nerd
@DomSaget
@DomSaget 4 года назад
Hahahahaha good joke. I guess Kevin Johnson, Dan Majerle, Cedric Ceballos or Tom Chambers are clowns right? Smh...
@scared08ph
@scared08ph 4 года назад
Aquamarinamtl well my rats knows charles barkley even they were born in 2000s but johnson?majerle? are they household superstar like the brand pippen or brand rodman? this is not a joke, its only a fact.
@DomSaget
@DomSaget 4 года назад
@@scared08ph Rodman wasnt on the bulls that year dude.....
@DomSaget
@DomSaget 4 года назад
@@scared08ph Pippen had not reached his peak yet, the other best bulls player was Horace Grant... it is well known the suns had the best overall team that year, they just couldnt beat air jordan
@michaelsonsarmiento5943
@michaelsonsarmiento5943 4 года назад
Mafia killed James Jordan after Michael refused to dial down his game in the finals.
@myfriendbobby
@myfriendbobby 4 года назад
Evidence?
@satatay23
@satatay23 4 года назад
You forgot to mention pizzagate, flat earth, chem trails, and Elvis is still alive.
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