Phoenix Wright vs L Lawliet Full Scale Comparison 

thank you for the explanation L Low-Mid Diffs at max

@@Oyasumi_Editor Cap, Pheonix High diffs at max my brudda.

Persuasion too , and look at manipulation, he got it alot of times💀

@@somerandomguy6233 read it more closely, there are different forms of manipulation and I put all of them down

@@Silhouette9999 dam I'm blind😭

his creativity paired with logical reasoning makes him formidable in courtroom battles

Thank you for noticing

Pheonix > canon L

Phoenix mid-high diffs canon L CTW L high or mid-high diffs Phoenix

Everything to Johan + Neg Diff

​@@Silhouette9999 yeah 😈

cross examination moment 🗿

​@@Silhouette9999Updated Autopsy Report To Edgeworth + no diff

I always thought the same thing. That’s why I’m doing this

fr

@@Silhouette9999two goated characters

Fr, I'm always impressed that I've never seen Phoenix in SCD. He's A+ rank (Light, Canon L, Ayanokōji, Johan, etc...) imo

​@@SY4K3-S4NHuge W

Thanks🐐

You're right there is no planet in which Wright beats L. He has some good planning in Apollo Justice but can't get on L's level.

I think he has good feats in "professor layton vs phoenix wright" because he had to use logic to explain magic in a medieval Era and prove what was seemingly impossible, possible. And I think professor Layton is extremely smart in his own right and yet phoenix was on par with him.

I completed Apollo Justice yesterday and it seems that Phoenix has improved his planning and strategies greatly. His overall composure is also so ahead of everybody else it’s hard for L to crack AA4 Phoenix down with pressure. I would still rate the games as: 2 > 1 > 4 >= 3. Still have to play AA 5 and 6 and AAI 1 and 2.

In the later games he has some insane feats. Just to name a few: solved a case that had gone on 7 years that the police had completely given up on since it seemed hopeless, took down The Phantom, an international terrorist and serial killer the authorities had been hunting for decades and yet were never able to track due to his beyond genius level intellect and ability to flawlessly impersonate anyone, overthrew the monarchy of an entire country which worships their monarchs like gods by proving the queen was a complete fraud, causing a country-wide revolution in the process, and by the events of Apollo Justice he is VASTLY smarter than in the original trilogy, being extremely skilled at manipulating and deceiving people for his own benefit, and basically never losing his composure and poker face under and circumstances. Also, Edgeworth, who he should be equal to, took down a whole international smuggling ring spanning several different countries around the world all on his own and stopped a mastermind plot throughout all of Japan run by the head of the Prosecutorial Investigation Committee.

Just finished investigations 1. Edgeworth as a protagonist is as fun as i expected it to be. He seemed a tiny bit off character though, as he’s kind of bluffing a lot like Phoenix does. That last case was LONG, but extremely rewarding. Alba just didn’t want to go down. Would place the game around ~ AA3 as an experience.

Good adaptation feat ngl

That's Cold.

I recommend giving it a play

@@Silhouette9999 is it as good as Danganronpa or death note or some

@@user-yz6er5cd9d I haven’t played Danganronpa, imo the franchise is better than Death Note

@@Silhouette9999 then it's a must play 🗣️

phoenix gets manip and strategy cause of him outsmarting kristoph and manipulating apollo into joining his agency

bro In all games we manipulate the jury with accusations without evidence

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Please read allat😭

And influence and all intelligence cats. And L wins high- extreme diff. Ctw L mid diffs.

​@@Whocares12editsAll intelligence cats don't go to L. Intrapersonal to Phoenix because he has better self-awareness and metacognition than L, has better interpersonal intelligence not only because of his social skills, bet also because of his social awareness and emotional understanding which are much better than the ones of L. Fluid also to Phoenix, he takes LR, LA and adaptability

WIS?

@@SY4K3-S4N who is stronger

@@SY4K3-S4Naka vs edit

@@xDragon_editsx But this is SCD

@@SY4K3-S4N I meant vs edit

i saw 7 minute

@@TheVictorFAN16I saw a 1 hour one lol. They made it so slow

WIS=Who is stronger If talking about outsmarting debates, it's SCD

@@legrandelysee98 no WIS is “who is smarter”

@@Aaaaaqqq404 WIS is not who is smarter. Since debates like that are not as old as the ones of power scaling, WIS is who is strong. SCD is for smart characters debate. I know what I'm talking about

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WMI could go to L but I gave it to Phoenix since he has pretty impressive WMI and the only feats I know of for the 2 have more impressive WMI for Phoenix

​@@Silhouette9999I see. Btw, Phoenix vs Yokoya iyo?

@@user-pm9by1jq9b could go either way, I’m gonna play the AAIs and DD and maybe SOJ before I complete my take on that

@@Silhouette9999 Thx for the answer

​@@Silhouette9999Will you give your analysis on DD and SoJ in the PW doc?

Good idea, I lowkey have thought about making a Miles doc but that’s a lot of work and I already spent like 7 weeks making the Phoenix doc

@@Silhouette9999 I see. I'm actually curious, have you played the Investigations games? I've always been curious on where Miles and the Mastermind scales in SCD because of those games

@@Silhouette9999 I don't want to say the mastermind's name because its a massive spoiler to those who haven't played Investigations 2

@@Lev8351 I have played the AAI games, but don’t really remember who the mastermind is because it was like 5 years ago. You actually prompted me to start rewatching them tonight

@@Silhouette9999wait is Ace attorney a visual novel ?

Just the og trilogy or every game in the series?

@@theonewhoknocks6950 i mean. here is TON of this cases so i'm just asking for the Phoenix trilogy.

@@togamm5596 difficult in terms of difficulty for the player or for the characters?

@@theonewhoknocks6950 the characters please

@@togamm5596 14. 1-1: even for a rookie Phoenix the case wasn’t that difficult and the killer was pretty obvious 13. 2-1: slightly tougher than 1-1 cause of the amnesia but still went by pretty quickly for Phoenix 12. 3-3: basically everyone knew Tigre was the killer and it was just a matter of getting him to slip up with the wording 11. 3-1: Dahlia is obviously much smarter than the other intro case villains but her plan in this one is pretty simple especially compared to other cases with her 10. 1-3: another case for rookie Phoenix which, while much worse than 1-1, didn’t have any huge stakes and there were no end of the rope points like some others 9. 3-2: the existence of Mask DeMasque definitely made this case more convoluted than some others but Atmey was still not that smart 8. 2-3: most of the defendants in this case aren’t that intelligent or viable as witnesses and once Acro is introduced it becomes clear he’s the only one capable of doing it, even to the characters 7. 1-2: first case with real stakes, Redd White was deceptively intelligent and Phoenix would’ve lost if not for Mia being channelled. 6. 2-2: another case with major stakes since Maya is the defendant again and Morgan’s planning is actually quite impressive, the only reason Phoenix even won was because of the magatama and even then he struggled 5. 1-4: a case where Phoenix is pushed to his absolute limits against a man who’s willing to do whatever it takes to him, he gets tased and would’ve lost if not for Maya 4. 2-4: of course, there are two main factors as to why this was so difficult for Phoenix; he needed to have his client acquitted to save Maya’s life, and he knew for a fact the defendant was the killer, leaving him in an incredibly precarious position that he wouldn’t have gotten out of if not for everyone else 3. 1-5: probably the most convoluted case in the original trilogy uncovering the messed up truths of the Joe Darke killings and having to prove to court that the Chief of Police is a murderer and a blackmailer, a case where it really took everyone to clear it all up in the end 2. 3-5: the longest case in the original trilogy where Phoenix is forced to prove an evil spirit guilty in court and prove one of his own rivals to be a murderer, not to mention the case has MANY moving layers to it like Iris and sister Bikini which make it all the more convoluted, legitimately could not have been solved if not for the help of everyone involved 1. 3-4: the toughest case in the series not because it has the most convoluted plot, but because it was virtually unwinnable, since the only way to indict Dahlia would be to prove her identity which would inevitably lead to Terry killing himself to protect her, no matter what it’s an unwinnable case because of the defendant, hence why it ended with no winners or losers

As far as i remember she was accused at least 3 times

Well if you follow the plot Phoenix beat L so naturally Maya was acquitted

It’s absolutely worth your while. The trilogy is a masterpiece, and all the other games are really good in my opinion and some can contend with the trilogy.

@@Silhouette9999 thanks I'll play it

Imo Strategy and Tactics go to L

Kira Case Is Not THAT Complex.

@@user-dd7hv2sx5b wild take

I'm pretty sure he can, Phoenix can even solve supernatural cases 💀

​@@user-dd7hv2sx5bwrong take a lot of dead prisoners begin to appear in addition to the fact that an alleged god of justice claims to be responsible there is no proof of anything How is it not a complex case? Johan's case is not complex at all

Still not complex​@@Mrgxv8

yes congratulations

Well for one he introduced an entire new system of law into the courts (jurist system) and he takes on cases that regularly influence the way the law is created (ex. Turnabout for Tomorrow ending the dark age of the law)

​@@Silhouette9999But doesn't L have worldwide influence.

@@garry1728 sorta but for the most part he’s just a detective that takes on the most important cases

@@Silhouette9999 So, if there's small baron creates a law in their territory, then their law's influence > worldwide influence. Since Phoenix Wright's law's influence is still smaller than worldwide influence, therefore law > influence? Confusing.

⁠@@Silhouette9999L is stated to be able to mobilize every investigative bureau in the entire world.

Imma need to find the koji doc cuz I’m not reading 60 hours of LN bs

@@Silhouette9999 🗿

@@Silhouette9999 yeah had to stop reading it now I just watch recaps of the newest volumes

@@Silhouette9999 I have koji above L with high diff (-) currently so if phoenix and L are really close i think koji would be above him I have never played ace attorney so I don't know Phoenix wrights feats

@@Bic-daxc69 koji above L at high diff (-) is a pretty rare take to be fair

Phoenix beat a case with amnesia, proved a Chief of Police guilty even when he was blackmailing/manipulating the only person who knew everything into staying silent, changing the law itself with the cases he takes, making the Jurism system a thing, yeah the list goes on. He also predicted von Karma’s bullet still being lodged inside him, with no evidence or previous investigation.

Phoenix extreme or high-extreme diff

Koji high diffs

Doctor Who victim

@@ursus732 which doctor

@@ursus732 and no fang yuan negs