Why Batman vs L is NOT Close. 

5:03 : W~OOWW there. Calling Alfred *"Batman's little Butler"* ?? I must strongly request of You to speak politely about Alfred and only politely. This Man is far more than just "a little Butler". 😅 He is like a Father to Bruce - and Bruce is like a Son to him. Alfred was not just very "loyal" to the Wayne Family - he deeply respected them. And when they died, Alfred could just have said : *N~aah, i quit.* and walk away. But he didn't. He would have never brought it over his Heart to leave little Bruce behind. He *HAD* to stay. That goes far beyond what a normal Servant would do or is obliged to do. Alfred is a Legend in his own way. He was the Family that Bruce needed when his Parents were no more. I am shocked actually that ANYONE would call Alfred just *Batman's little Butler.* 😅

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so L is Robin

Nah Light is the joker, Misa is Harley Quinn, L is batman, Watari is Alfred and apparently Japan in Death Note is just a massively degraded version of Gotham

@@Ravvox misa being harley definintely fits

@@Ravvox also chief yagami = gordon

What the fuck did I just read?

​@@CaptainF123 Least insane Grant Morrison plot

Because I am Batman .

"time-traveling"....... r*tarded

With just one look Batman knew the bullet traveled through time 😂

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Batman also does other things than just sit around thinking. He does other activities. #activeandproactive

Your arguments are hella wrong and weak, i too see batman>L but this argument is horrible.

@@Amine-om7yj compelling argument you’ve got there

Yeah, Batman only became a detective in a world where supernatural bullshit was already the norm. L lived in a world that had no supernatural bullshit recorded since religious texts were written centuries ago, yet still managed to track down the owner of a supernatural mass murder device. Objectively, Batman has the more impressive feats. But personally, I'm FAR more impressed by L. Batman just had more opportunity for those feats.

Even if you ignore all that, think about the way batman solves a case. He is practically omnipresent, he can be anywhere and access any piece of information as needed by the plot on the merit of being batman. Cameras anywhere, unlimited funds to practically bend the city to his will, any clue can be fed into a computer and just tell him the solution. Not that he even needs that, just by being batman he can hack into any system be in any shadow interrogate anyone. Holmes has a home made chemistry set, a war vet, a collection of newspapers, an encyclopedia, some homeless kids that might have heard a rumor and a magnifying glass. His super power is noticing the exact perfect details that doyle subtly writes in to make what seems like wild assumptions in retrospect really be simple observations and logic. Peak Batman? It's solved, why? He's batman that's why.

@TheMovieCave You're right. Holmes, in my opinion, makes more sense. It's better written than Batman at least. Holmes uses a lot of tools as much as Batman, as you rightfully made note of, but Holmes' writing is mostly meticulously sensible in his explanations to the solving of a mystery. On top of that, Holmes is like Batman from a time before modern Batman, with all his technology and tools on his side. Had he been in modern day, he'd utilize AI, computers, drones, etc. , like Batman. I give Holmes the edge for his passion for truth and exact knowledge, whereas Wayne only became a detective hero because of his parent's death. Holmes has a need and drive for detection, as implied in the stories, truth is power, and he loves to learn for that reason alone. So much so, Holmes usually performs experiments for the sake of learning. Heck, he even furthered the field of forensics in real life. In his own world, he developed an agent that can detect blood better than commonly practiced test. He's just so...progressive, in the field of detection. Which has saved lives and solved cases in extraordinary ways. I just prefer Holmes for the realism, mostly which he is grounded in. I feel like I can respect him and some other detectives more than Batman for the sheer brilliance of the writing with the characters. If you gave them all that Batman has, it would be used in a more believable way, but that would make them seem lesser than Batman in the eyes of viewers. Comparing a character like Batman to these other characters would be kinda odd to do since Batman is...Batman. Who is actually just an exaggerated version of Holmes.

This comment just ignores the fact that shinigamis are a thing lol.

@@TheMovieCave That is the whole point. Why follow a human around when you can follow god around. DC has always been “gods that try to be men”. Always was, always will be

Batman, reed Richards, and iron man do have explanation on their reasons

@@lilg6615 I have never seen an explanation to how to build the Iron man suit, if I did id.be wearing it right now

“Toon force” is the wrong way to look at it. What he has is a common trope in fiction that is better thought of as “magic intelligence.” Magical intelligence is basically someone just inexplicably knowing/learning anything and everything and having it explained by “they’re super smart” without any actual insight into how they learn things or reason through problems. This is super common in comics, and also very common in anime. It’s even common in movies and TV shows that are ostensibly about smart characters, such as adaptations of Sherlock Holmes.

@@sigiligus my point is still valid

I agree with this outlook though I don't personally prefer the term toon force for it. Yes, there's a gap between unrealistic and realistic. However, there's a further gap between showing and telling. L we are shown is smart through his reasoning and while he does make mistakes, the author definitely attempted to the best of his ability to execute it and did so in a compelling way. Batman we are most often told is smart and the reason why he can do it is because he can. This applies beyond a level of dealing with magical or scifi or things we'd categorize as toon stuff which we understand and well into places where he should more often be able to do a better job of reasoning. Or it often happens that Batman is aided by his database and gadgets a lot of times where he has a computer search for people fitting certain parameters. To me, this is a more impressive computer than an impressive detective. I'm sure that in the cases where he's allowed to be a detective, Batman is just fine. However, in the vast majority of his material, he just isn't one and is an outright poor one from a logic standpoint. A lot of his detective work amounts to clue gathering from crime scenes and he's quite good at this which is why I'd classify him not as a particularly good detective in story most of the time (though he's supposed to be) and more a crime scene analyst. If we go by what we're told, Batman is of course superior in the same way that if we were told he had an IQ of 1 trillion and accepted that, that'd make him smarter. However, he's not such in the way he's actually shown. Maybe there is a really good series of Batman doing detective work that delves into his thinking as the primary driver of the series but if I certainly haven't seen it.

like stopping world war 3 at the age of 8?

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Yeah Batman’s more of the “beat you to near-death” sort

Not to mention that he has been written by gazillion different writers and isn't even consistently smart in all of them. It is honestly why I prefer L over him as a more realistic detective character.

Yeah.... like he deduced riddlers plan in a day? Or is Batman just declared the worlds greatest detective but writers don’t even bother to explore that much with his character.

Fr. And by the way he does things, would’ve destroyed the notebook and leave Light with fractures all over his body. Which would be well deserved

In a night

​@@C6M6i mean batman is pretty consistently a detective. It's ingrained in his character so I'd the the former.

He'd likely just make a call with zatanna and it'd be over in a few hours depending on how fast his jet is

Batman didn't fool the World Forger. He said he agreed with him. He really left Superman to die on that planet. But left him an out he could only reach if he really pushed himself. It's like locking your friend in a cell, but leaving the key _just_ out of reach so that your friend can only get it if they dislocate their arm or something. TL;DR - Batman didn't help Superman, but left him an out to help himself.

@@WebbedManiac That is still something World Forger could not anticipate

Ay thanks bro, using these scaling systems and explaining them will give better perspectives for the audience. And yuh I think in the future we can include the overkill Batman feats against possible people to match his IQ 🙏

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"Natural Intelligence". Idk man, I think Batman still has him beat there.

​​@@DinkusDorfI don't think, Batman beats Him. L naturally is above him. L is too smart for his Age, Wayne on other hand wasn't this Intelligent at his age compared to him. Bruce isn't Naturally Intelligent, coz he got Training while L is natural who solved every cases that existed at low age. If L was at Wayne's age, He would've better and more Feats as well.

​@@KiraLDeathNoteall the training in the world wouldn't change anything at bruce's natural intelligence. Talk to any martial arts expert and they'll tell you it takes years, if not decades to master one martial art. Bruce has mastered hundreds of those martial arts. Even with centuries of training a normal person would be unable to reach the same level. Bruce didn't start his carreer as early as L did for the simple reason that he didn't need to, and as soon as he needed, he showed natural potential on par or above L. And it's quite frankly silly to compare the two. Death note is built with realistic intelligence in mind. No matter how smart, the characters are still humans and make human mistakes. DC on the other hand is completely unrealistic. Brainiac is a 12th level intellect, with a 9th level intellect being smarter than the entire human race combined. And batman was still able to deduce stuff faster than brainiac. He's simply not a realistic human so there's no point in comparing L to him

If you ignore thousands of batman's intelligence feats then sure L is smarter but im reality is he not. Comic charactersdo crazy things its no joke

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That is how superpower of intelligence is also a superpower. Same with Sister Sage in Boys. Being smart to that level IS superpowered

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​@@AventSirLove the vid dawg. both are a great detective but overall i would choose Batman due to his feats outshine L's.

I Have 121 IQ In 21 Year, But On The Current Moment I Can Only Calculate My Actions Till The End Of The Year And That's All, But That's Considering The Fact That I'm Only 21 And Nerfed By Pills And Depression 😅

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Probably not. Talons and immortality are just too much of an obstacle. Even if he figured them out, he does not have political or military power to bring them down. Reminds me of that quote from glass onion “I am a detective, but I am not Batman. I can find the clues and shine light on the truth…. But that is where my specialty ends - I cannot bring criminals to justice myself”

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@@AventSir np

Yes he was.

That was in dceased that's not cannon

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Both are Tokuchi victims

​@@Hugm4lsecondaccountW, Tokuchi is actually such a good character

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I mean to be fair L lost to light. If batman caught him at all he'd win

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If Batman was in Monster, the series would last like 5 episodes.

L Lawliet solving and catching the Jigsaw Killers would be a interesting matchup.

And now I'm imagining L/Batman in a saw trap

Batman catching and solving the Case of Johan Liebert would be amazing.

@@MrLim-wq2gn exactly

That'd require Light to know the fact that "Batman considers himself to be Batman, not whatever his secret identity is" I don't think Light would ever think like that. He wouldn't even consider putting "Batman" in the notebook because he'd think it's stupid.

@WebbedManiac it wouldn't even require light to reason that he'd just have to experiment (something he does a lot in the show). Scene: "oh what if I put his superhero name" "oh he's dead"

@@WebbedManiac the actual problem would be his face

I actually change my mind because I forgot about the whole face thing light would be fucked

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But the peak of the dc works is leagues above the peak of the death note world

@@bobdafishyes6536 But more people are at the peak of the DC multiverse, making that a normal. DC characters are practically pampered into being superhuman. L is more impressive considering the world he lives in and his detective prowess outclasses that of Batman. L is not just L but countless other detectives on the "Greatest Detectives of all Time" list simultaneously. L is such a good detective that he plays the role of many detectives at once. He's never been seen yet solved every case he worked on, and yes, that includes the Kira case. he knew Light was Kira as soon as Raye Penber died, he just wanted hard proof. He managed all of this without any knowledge of the Death Note.

@@DestroyerApollyon true if we take it as a competition or being more impressive than L is far more impressive in a standing of being better than people in your verse be is clearly #1 in his verse I basically just said that Batman would win because his cap is higher than L’s

@@bobdafishyes6536 I still think L would win a duel of wits. Batman takes all night and needs to find every clue to solve the Riddler's puzzles. L would have figured it out as soon as he sees the first clue. evidence: he's done more with less. in one move, he confirmed that Kira was real, needed at least a name and a face at minimum to kill, lives in Kanto, and was a student. he went from knowing that people were dying coincidentally to basically knowing the identity of a serial killer who doesn't need to be at the scene of the crime to kill.

@@DestroyerApollyon I can’t really argue die to the ungodly sized intellect difference between Batman’s dumbest and smartest renditions like you pointed out he sometimes takes days to solve admittedly almost impossible riddles their still just riddles and if it’s one of those dumber renditions then yea I don’t think either of us are going to disagree that L pretty handily takes it their but when Batman is bullshited in the intelligence stat where he’s competing with a 12th dimensional or level intellect like Luther then I think bats takes it there e just ti much difference between them to say he either takes it or dosent I feel like you have to specify a little more So basically dumber bats losses pretty hard and smarter bats wins pretty hard