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Phonak Audéo Sphere Infinio: Everything We Know So Far 👀 

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@uu3j
@uu3j Месяц назад
Doctor, I love you from Iraq. I hope to meet you so that I can treat my hearing, which caused me great sadness and prevented me from going out with friends because I cannot hear people 😔💔
@BrianVallotton
@BrianVallotton Месяц назад
Checking on this with my hearing doctor today! I have Widex Moments but the Bluetooth is the main thing that I am interested in. It drives me nuts that I am tethered to my phone only. I am a new subscriber.
@HearSoundly
@HearSoundly Месяц назад
This could be a nice upgrade for you if you are hoping to connect to multiple devices! Phonak and Sennheiser are the best at that currently. Welcome to the channel!
@BrianVallotton
@BrianVallotton Месяц назад
@@HearSoundly Thanks for the encouragement on my strategy... I play guitar at church every week and I was thinking that for live sound I could always still wear my Widex Moments on Sundays... I understand that the Widex on Music setting are hard to beat. Do you find that to be true? As a Moments user do you think I would be disappointed in the PhonaK sound overall? Thanks for interacting with me. I like your presentation style. Casual and informative! God bless.
@Brightsparks1960
@Brightsparks1960 Месяц назад
Great explanation of the potential of onboard AI processing for HA users. Looking forward to the review as I feel sure this will be a great feature enhancement, with real benefits.
@HearSoundly
@HearSoundly Месяц назад
I’m excited about this one as well! Lots to look forward to!
@efthimis_antonopoulos
@efthimis_antonopoulos Месяц назад
Phonak is so amazing! UNBELIEVABLE Products!
@Pro_User_HA
@Pro_User_HA Месяц назад
I wonder if Phonak extended patients eligibility for MAV receiver (ActiveVent). Until now, they can't have hearing loss in 1000 Hz bigger than 40 dB and in 2000 Hz bigger than 70bdB...
@boxof64
@boxof64 Месяц назад
Received this HA today, 1st in my Dr's office!
@HearSoundly
@HearSoundly Месяц назад
How are they?
@agentred8732
@agentred8732 Месяц назад
How are you liking them??
@eddyblatt
@eddyblatt Месяц назад
Great review, as an Oticon Intent wearer (which also has a DNN) what is the difference, is Phonak Sphere chip using AI for noise reduction only, what about directional clarification, Oticon Intent has 4D sensing which I quite enjoy, I turn my head towards a person speaking and the AI focuses on that person, in my (1 week in) experience with Oticon Intent, I can hear whomever I look at more than if I look away from the person, it really works. At the end of the day, I’ll stick with Oticon, but I am still curious of Phonaks new sphere chip is that going to provide more improvement than Oticon for speech in noisy situations, as so far I am impressed with Oticons handling of a noisy room, but it is still requiring me to switch manually to program 2 to get Oticon Intent’s noise reduction benefits?
@HearSoundly
@HearSoundly Месяц назад
Great insights and questions here. Based on what I've read, Phonak is mostly using their AI to focus their denoise program. That might also connect to their approach to directionality as well but I need to dig into this further. The technical difference between what Oticon and Phonak are doing (to my knowledge) is that Oticon has pre-trained their sensors and models using AI and a deep neural network while Phonak is actually running net new AI calculations onboard the devices. It's a nuance that I'm still getting my head around but I can imagine the onboard nature will be big for future breakthroughs in the category
@MartenKruysse-fm9ic
@MartenKruysse-fm9ic 26 дней назад
Sounds promising. How does the AI software affect the battery charge? Is the Sphere Infinio the same size as the Lumity L-R?
@Jetboat2000
@Jetboat2000 Месяц назад
Ultimately, people like me that rely on hearing aids will decide whether or not these are worthy of the hype; I hope they are and I am looking forward to a road test.
@HearSoundly
@HearSoundly Месяц назад
Same! I’m very curious to see how these hold up.
@williamrieger9904
@williamrieger9904 Месяц назад
I just love how these companies can make you want to spend another 7-8 thousand dollars every two years
@Jean69100
@Jean69100 Месяц назад
I was thinking the same thing. They think money grows on trees
@rinas.6264
@rinas.6264 29 дней назад
Yup.....
@lionmangolf
@lionmangolf 28 дней назад
You should only spend about 5k per pair & no more than every four years
@albertomainardi4867
@albertomainardi4867 Месяц назад
That’s amazing!
@martymalinowski6352
@martymalinowski6352 Месяц назад
So what happens with the current Phonak Lumity product line? I demoed those and the phone interface with my Motorola is perfect, currently doing a Jabra 300 demo that will absolutely not work with my phone. Will the Lumity price drop?
@boxof64
@boxof64 Месяц назад
Question! Curious what the +/- are for a single HA wearer? I’m switching over to Phonak from Oticon. With Oticon I can only turn the volume up (with the right side HA) and have to be tethered to Bluetooth to turn the volume down. With Phonak you have full function (with one HA) on the rocker switch. Also, Bluetooth does not sound great for my type of hearing loss - 50% loss in one ear, I hardly have any bass left (SSNHL). So BT sounds "tinny and scratchy.” Thank you for the great intro and I’m looking forward to your in-depth review. New to hearing loss and a new subscriber! 🎉
@HearSoundly
@HearSoundly Месяц назад
Phonak kept the rocker switch which, to your point, is great for single sided wearers. Bluetooth streaming sound-quality is a tough one since most domes aren't as good at keeping sound in your ear canal as a typical earbud. We'll get into Bluetooth more in the full video.
@boxof64
@boxof64 Месяц назад
@@HearSoundly Thank you! Looking forward to the rest of your review
@DonG-d1z
@DonG-d1z Месяц назад
What manufactures offer cross over hearing aides. My son has total loss of hearing in his right ear?...and would like to have conversations on his right side transferred to his left side.
@HearSoundly
@HearSoundly Месяц назад
Signia ReSound Phonak and Oticon are the leading brands for this type of device.
@wesnorman
@wesnorman Месяц назад
Does the Sphere Infinio come in CROS? Or is it only available in the Infinio?
@HearSoundly
@HearSoundly Месяц назад
Good question! To my knowledge CROS is only available in Infinio. I’ll get to the bottom of this
@herbster22
@herbster22 Месяц назад
How are these for musicians, live music playing and concerts??
@HearSoundly
@HearSoundly Месяц назад
Good question! My current answer is based on past experience with Phonak. The key here is finding an audiologist who can set up a good music program for you that limits the distortion of live music. In automatic Phonak hearing aids might detect some musical notes as background noise and suppress them. With the right audiologist that should be avoidable but may take some playing with.
@jeffer2350
@jeffer2350 Месяц назад
Hopefully the next model will be an improvement because I have the 2023 top of the line Audeo and do not like using them to listen to music. I have tried to use them in movie theaters and ended up leaving the theater in the middle of the movie because voices were distorted such that I loss information on the plot of the movie. For music, I basically switch to my earbuds and deal with improper balance on the volume (my right ear has much higher hearing loss than left ear). The Audeo works well for hearing voices and does well for phone calls. Bluetooth is okay.
@LouieYumz
@LouieYumz Месяц назад
How is the battery life that was the deal breaker for me to pic Oticon. I am in my 45 day window love the sound of Phonak but Oticon battery was the deal breaker I was go to bed on on charge with no charging Phonak I would have to charge them on my lunch break to get a full day
@jeffer2350
@jeffer2350 Месяц назад
I have the Phonak L90 Audeo (2023 purchase) Mine had terrible battery life when I first got them, but then they did a Bluetooth update and it has easily made it through a full day without running out of battery charge now.
@howardlenow
@howardlenow Месяц назад
I haven’t seen Phonak put out anything about the battery life of the new Infiniti Sphere. Do you know how this model is rated?
@hedgetrimmer123
@hedgetrimmer123 Месяц назад
Do you know whether they use the same receivers - 4.0?
@HearSoundly
@HearSoundly Месяц назад
We will find out. We haven’t heard about this changing but will confirm
@nehanagpal1450
@nehanagpal1450 Месяц назад
How do these compare to Starkey Genesis AI?
@HearSoundly
@HearSoundly Месяц назад
We don’t have a hands-on comparison yet, but we will be sure to cover this in our future video!
@vegasman53
@vegasman53 Месяц назад
Yes how much will these retail for .
@HearSoundly
@HearSoundly Месяц назад
Likely 4500-7500 depending on the retailer. We list some partners on soundly.com
@ChristopherPerkins-ww3bl
@ChristopherPerkins-ww3bl 25 дней назад
@@HearSoundlyor buy online
@catfify
@catfify Месяц назад
Does the new Phonak Infinio hearing aids contain a T-coil?
@HearSoundly
@HearSoundly Месяц назад
Yes, to our knowledge you can opt for T-coil if you'd like.
@jeffalfred5785
@jeffalfred5785 Месяц назад
Any word on a longer battery charge ? how long a charge lasts...
@HearSoundly
@HearSoundly Месяц назад
We'll find out! Not of the exact specs between Infinio and Sphere Infinio yet.
@texgirljen1
@texgirljen1 Месяц назад
16-24hours. Max out at 3 hours of sphere speech in loud noise(can be turned off in Target. )
@plastechfish
@plastechfish Месяц назад
Are they waterproof the the Audeo Life?
@HearSoundly
@HearSoundly Месяц назад
The new infinio is IP68 rated which means it can be submerged for up to 30 minutes without impact
@plastechfish
@plastechfish Месяц назад
Awesome! Thank you!
@robertgloverjr
@robertgloverjr Месяц назад
Does this new "Phonak Audeo Sphere Infinio" support the new "Bluetooth LE Audio" standard with Auracast?
@HearSoundly
@HearSoundly Месяц назад
It has the capability built in but not turned on. You will need to go back in for a firmware update in the future when it’s more widely available
@georgephx
@georgephx Месяц назад
Yup and the battery lasts a whopping 7 hours
@stevencaseymiller8376
@stevencaseymiller8376 21 день назад
16 hours. 7 hours if you leave it in background noise mode.
@konracciesla
@konracciesla Месяц назад
it has a charger, scrap metal, do not buy it anywhere, phonak b titanium for 312 batteries, where
@aztravelguy
@aztravelguy Месяц назад
AI as a marketing tool for anything is a turn off, at least two studies say. As you point out, AI isn't new to hearing aids, nor are deep neural networks. So yes there's advancement in the technology, but consumers are growing weary of companies tripping over themselves to plaster AI branding all over their products. Plus AI is still not fully baked, as many LLMs prove, and why Apple is delaying their AI. Also, I'm disappointed there's no move to LE Audio. Perhaps they decided there isn't enough out there using it (phones, TVs, public spaces) that it wasn't worth the hassle a switch would entail. Though it becomes a chicken and egg situation. Need devices with LE Audio, but need places and consumer tech with Auracast. Someone's got to jump. I'm a die-hard Phonak wearer for about 18 years, ReSound before that. I'm on Lumity for now, and probably will be until the generation after Infineo. Still good to keep up with advances. Any word on battery life improvement, or if disposable batteries return to Audeo?
@HearSoundly
@HearSoundly Месяц назад
Fair points and good questions! Infinio actually does have LE audio and auracast capability built in but not activated. You will have to get a firmware update to unlock that in the future. The line from Phonak is that they are focused on connection tech that people can currently use. I think they feel good about their Bluetooth classic connection style.
@kalebanderson6564
@kalebanderson6564 Месяц назад
@@HearSoundly is the bluetooth connection just as good? Or are there some drawbacks to it?
@Pro_User_HA
@Pro_User_HA Месяц назад
​​​@@kalebanderson6564, 6 time more power of Bluetooth, which gives 2 times longer distance and more stable connection.
@mariaj9235
@mariaj9235 Месяц назад
you have to ask for disposable battery unit.. I have Phonak Audeo on batteries. At times I have to be in HA 16-18 hours and recharable will not do it
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