Phone call in Disco Elysium: The Final Cut 

Great addition, on this playthrough I had low shivers so I probably missed it. After two playthroughs I'm starting to think Shivers is the best skill at finding what Harry's mind is really about.

@@levitybooks3952 or maybe just what's best for him... being an extra sensory protective force, and all. High shivers is very cozy- paradoxically

Shivers + volition + maybe that starry dude or empathy makes the best introspective build in my case.

@@justanidiotmk2749 esprit the corps is pretty good

I did it on my first playthrough in the same manner, with high inland empire. It felt like Harry was having a very bad night!

Yeah me too, i got it late night after i go to the "crazy pigs" lady, and just randomly clicking the phone because its 22 pm and kim just get to his room

Damn.. Though you were talking about irl or is that just me 😅🥲😔

Yeah I was trying to keep him together this playthrough, first time I had Inland Empire as my signature skill and PSY starting stats were high, and I think I had to keep him from getting really depressed.

That is so much more depressing when even Volition is the one who's saying it.

On my first playthrough I think she picked up but I pressed the wrong speech option and the conversation ended before it got deep. I actually thought it was Harry's hallucination and not actually her!

Well, the first thing I thought when playing this game, haha funny game about a broken man. And now 2 months later, Im a broken man myself, I had to leave my now ex and I finally feel for Harry.

I was married at the time I first played this but I knew it was ending soon, partly due to my own fault at the start but by the end hers - at any rate, it was an emotional experience even then and it still tugs at me to this day. Brilliant writing and indeed probably the best game I've ever played.

@@gospodinkrasnov1516 wish you luck man.

@@luckynyaa2826 thank you very much, im more or less over it already!

I wouldn’t say what Im going through was an end of a marriage or a break up, but the pain is all the same. I haven’t spoken to my best friend in over four years as of writing, not after… The things we said to each other. The things he said to me, i will never understand them. The things I said to him, i will always regret. I just wish out of all the things I could say if given the chance is to tell him that I’m sorry. That I’m sorry for hurting him. That I’m sorry for everything. There’s a wound in my heart, deeper and more painful than anything i can ever experience. I don’t know if it will ever heal. I wish there I could’ve been able to say that in game, just have something to give me closure. I don’t care if I’ll ever be forgiven or not for hurting him. I just want to say…. I’m sorry.

The amount of restraint Kim has in the entire game being next to Harry is admirable!

Yeah I think they should've made a game over scene here if you got too attached in the phone call, or just way more volition decreases. You can lose in Disco Elysium for far more trivial events!

On my first playthrough I did the same thing. I think I also punched the phone and then thought the phone was going to make me lose so I stayed away from it. There are lots of little scenes hiding in the game, did you see the Mysterious Pair of Eyes yet?

What Kim said ?

@@krupniokk I don’t remember exactly, but he says something about having lost respect for you

Great comment, yes! The writing is fantastic as it makes these bizarre situations believable, as you described. Given Jacques and the police station seem to know about her too it's conceivable a lot of people knew her number. Shaved Harry isn't worth it, I'm not sure why I tried so hard for that skill check, he looks a lot more unhappy!

actually, the game strongly implies that Harry kept calling her for all this years. Harry is a broken man and now that we take control of him during the game after his amnesia, we can change him to a better person, because he really was a jerk on the past.

@@Honorio-nz4ts What's weird is that she doesn't hang up on him immediately if he really was a horrible stalking jerk to her. I don't know if it was pity or if she still feels some connection to him. Either way, pretty interesting.

@@JB-xl2jc Relationships can be complicated. Maybe Dora doesn't want Harry in her life anymore and has very good reasons to not want to talk to him. She might still care for him on some level. Clearly, Harry still loved her even when she left- but sometimes, love just isn't enough to keep an otherwise unhealthy relationship going. I've definitely cared about and talked to people who I at the same time had good reason to be mad at!

I Iike shaved Harrier with the expression taken off. It's who he really is. No politics. No fake smile. No gaudy beard. Just naked man. It speaks of a future. Acceptance

Yeah, the way the phone call is articulated, it's pretty sad. Coincidentally I had a similar thing happen with my girlfriend on my first playthrough, only it was a year before in 2019. The first time I heard it I felt sad for Harry, the second time I felt inside that same sadness. Glad to hear you're doing ok now. Disco Elysium is a great story for 'moving on', so the timing for both of us was fortunate!

Thanks for sharing something so personal, I missed the phonecall after finishing recently but the dream sequence with Dora/Delores at the end really got me crying, if I played a few months earlier it would have absolutely destroyed me since my ex girlfriend just left completely out of the blue and it hurt a lot to get over (I think a good person who I loved, but not the best girlfriend) . Finishing the game and seeing Harry so hung up on his loss really helped put how I was feeling then into perspective and i'm better now. I'm glad you got something similar out of it and are doing better!

@@alchemistthrace thank you for listening and sharing your story too! I'm glad this game was able to help so many people.

Sort of the same, the ending in my case was more dramatic than your regular "X dumped Y" story. The reason why I looked up this video was just to confirm that stuff like this can no longer get to me as they used to. Iiiii'm okay.

I'm going through the exact same shit. Breakup out of the blue from the person I thought I would spend the rest of my life with. The first time we really talked after a few months she said she was fine emotionally, romantically, professionally, while I was still in the thick of it. Dora saying the exact same thing to Harry during the dream hurt me so, so much.

Yup, it feels pretty real, but I don't think this is the worst this scene can be! I was playing as a relatively sane cop, had I played with higher PSY starting stats, Inland Empire signature skill and the horrible necktie, it would've been even sadder.

@@levitybooks3952 is the game sadder with high PSY? I missed this phone booth on my first playthrough with basically 8s on all psy and mind stats and a bit more on inland empire and empathy. Now I want to replay with the same build I guess just to check out this phone booth call…

"why does it hurt to talk to you?" made me tear up

Yeah, and the breakup is so realistic. There's no convoluted psychodrama, it's just, "you're too poor".

I mean the story doesn't shy away from the possibility that Kim is his next love.

​@@PermianExtinctionshow yourself to the door

The one comfort is that there's always a way out of this. If you truly believe your best days are behind you, that there's nothing good in your future, there's something you can do. And it's your right to do so, no matter what anyone else says.

@@exu7325 that's wrong. She left harry cause he became to depressed and mentally unstable after getting a job in RCM. There's even a unique dialog line with dora, depending on your signature skill

I was in the process of going through one myself, so replaying this was particularly hard!

Yeah I cut this from my let's play. The first time I did it I pressed the wrong choices and didn't have this talk, so this was my genuine first reaction to it not knowing you could actually talk to them!

Well he'd probably be in Oranje, not Revachol

Sorry, I know this is a pretty old comment, but the game very much implies that he did call her multiple times between the breakup and martinaise, so your guess might not even be that far off from canon

I only called once and I don't know why I was such an idiot when I told him that I was his wife's lover and it pleased her more than him. Then unrecognizable screams and crying children were heard... I felt so bad.

DUDE SAME! I’m tripping on shrooms and it kinda startled me but that’s exactly how I looked when I played the game I feel

Don't worry, it will be okay

@@levitybooks3952 thank you, King

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When it says numbers break down, I don't think it means phone numbers, I think it means that physics doesn't make sense there, I think they have ways of communicating between Isolas. Otherwise it'd be weird that there is Graad phone region extentions

There are easy of communication. In the Pale there are "stations" for that. The Corporate Woman (forgot her Name) Talks about this

That's me, losing my religion

You're oversimplying it a bit. The whole money thing is implied to at least partially be stemming from Harry's own self-loathing. He was very self-conscious about his poor financial standing and he feared that he wasn't "good enough" for her.

@@EyeoftheU But what caused his self-loathing? What was the root of the issue? What caused him to manifest the notion that his poor financial standing made him not good enough? These kinds of thoughts don't spontaneously come out of nothing, after all.

​@@Tumbledweeb His self loathing comes from his putting Dora on a pedestal. To Harry, Dora is a direct, perhaps delayed reincarnation of Dolores Dei herself. Her (specifically, Harry's perception of "Dora Dei", and not the real Dora as a person) thoughts are absolute truth. When Harry first meets Dora, she's a foreign student studying in Revachol, and it's told if not implied that she's seen as part of the bourgeois class in comparison to the rest of the Revacholians. For an entire generation before Harry was even born, Revachol was a communist commune which had just revolted against a once-prosperous-now-corrupt monarchy. In terms of fitting into global economics, the average in-game Revacholian held a weak position compared to what might be the global "middle class" - perhaps this is indicative/reflective of the author's own experience as an Estonian - a former Soviet state which has been granted independence. In my perspective, canon Harry grew into a supercop (another way to say that he had high specs in all branches) even before the blackout, and even before Dora left. His social senses were telling him that Dora was relatively uncomfortable because she is supposedly innately used to living in a more splendid environment, while in reality, the couple were barely getting by (but still getting by nonetheless). I think Harry despises himself because he has internalized over a long period of time - the belief that Dora needs/expects a better living environment. I personally believe that perhaps Dora didn't mind being in relative poverty compared to what she would have lived in in her childhood and adolesence, but arguably, the reality doesn't matter because Harry has allowed himself to believe over a long period of time that his perspective was instead the reality - so this emotional stress from believing he's not enough for Dora + emotional stress from overwork = self loading WHICH IN TURN remanifests itself as self loathing = not enough for dora

@@munmunyee You're overcomplicating it. A young bourgeois academic got in relationship with a charming gym teacher/aspiring policeman. They got engaged, but the policeman is poor, life is hard. Years of police work took a toll on the policeman and changed him as a person. Eventually the bourgeois academic got tired of the hard life and abandoned her fiancee. There's also a terminated pregnancy somewhere there too, implied to be caused by their poor economic circumstances. Dora left because Harry is a poor overworked policeman, that's it. It might be unpleasant, but I think that's the point. This "poverty is only a mindset" bullshit goes against everything Disco Elysium is trying to tell.

@@EyeoftheU you should be careful the other way around. The entire game Harry was deifying her, literally. Pretending she was a perfect angel and had no flaws. Then in that dream we see her flaws and he still pretends they're not there. I think they're real.

Because she's on a distant piece of matter somewhere in the Pale There might be different 'time'

@@user-yx1sn6iw9b That's wrinkling my brain.

Mhmm

Jeez, somebody DOESN'T like this game ? What a joke

you should give it a change right up to the end if you haven't already. even if you don't like it it's at least nice to see why others might.

Projecting?