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Some slow-motion microscopy demos showing a phonograph needle, and discussion on the challenges of getting those shots.
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Music: From Russia with Love by Huma-Huma

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@taofledermaus
@taofledermaus 6 лет назад
Thanks for explaining how you did it. Definitely more complex than I imagined.
@gummel82
@gummel82 6 лет назад
TAOFLEDERMAUS Damn jeff i see you on every video i like
@JohnnySmith.
@JohnnySmith. 2 месяца назад
It's how the sound gets put on the vinyl in the first place that burns my head out!😵‍💫
@NickMoore
@NickMoore 6 лет назад
Arg! You beat me to it! The last time I tried this I melted my record and the microscope lens got way too hot. Fantastic footage, I'm glad you got it to work!
@Peaches_NZ
@Peaches_NZ 6 лет назад
Wow, Just wow!! The view is incredible of the groove and needle moving, thanks for the setup explanation at the end
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff 6 лет назад
Who needs an electron microscope...
@godfreypoon5148
@godfreypoon5148 6 лет назад
Yes please!
@SupremeRuleroftheWorld
@SupremeRuleroftheWorld 6 лет назад
who doesnt?
@cosmosity1693
@cosmosity1693 5 лет назад
That's only 500 microns minimum dimensions you can see with a microscope is 3 orders of magnitude below the video dimensions shown here!
@eazym2883
@eazym2883 3 года назад
Man, the amount of effort you put in to this is is impressive on so many levels, you deserve more than the mere like I can give you, thank you, so much.
@limitlessenergy369
@limitlessenergy369 Год назад
Electron microscopes kill / modify the sample being viewed and should not be used in medical settings. It is possible to create a live culture microscope which can observe even a virus in its living state. Invented originally by Royal Raymond Rife. Even Universities do not have the equipment which I am familiar with. Its actually quite pathetic especially in 2023. Not worth a $190,000 tuition in the slightest. Get better equipment that can study LIFE and smash those electron microscopes. They shouldn’t even be allowed to exist because it makes too many experiments invalid. Minds = Blown
@Guachum
@Guachum 4 года назад
This is the best RU-vid video of a magnified LP record playing. Interesting to see how the stylus starts clean and then gets lost with dust and particles. Also, the grooves are all over the place. Thanks!
@vinylspell7179
@vinylspell7179 6 лет назад
This is so great and cinematic, imagine a movie with this scene, than soldiers on the field running in slow motion.
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff 6 лет назад
How about lighting through the lens with a beamsplitter like a metallurgical microscope?
@altaroffire56
@altaroffire56 6 лет назад
A beam splitter would halve the light intensity going to the sensor, since the other half would get reflected back to the light source. Also, I don't think lightning through the lens is ideal unless you're filming a surface perpendicular to the beam.
@tesla500
@tesla500 6 лет назад
Will need to give that a try. Will lose some light due to the beamsplitter but the lighting should be much more efficient
@cameronwebster6866
@cameronwebster6866 6 лет назад
Is the internal oscilloscope working yet? Because if it is, this would be a really cool demo of it.
@MrMrMeile
@MrMrMeile 6 лет назад
Hello Mike, you pulled out of the DNA machine this filter which blocks only the laser light wave length, would this not be suited for illumination of the stylus through a beam splitter and filtering out the laser light?
@briananderson8263
@briananderson8263 4 года назад
Would love to see a video like this with the real time audio produced by the record included
@fredward55
@fredward55 6 месяцев назад
I agree. It would be more interesting to see the actual track synchronized w the music. Having been brought up w Hi Fi it’s amazing that they ever came up w this. I’d love to see how quadrophonics system worked. I liked the part where the needle skipped the groove a few times.
@MrBigShotFancyPants
@MrBigShotFancyPants 5 месяцев назад
True quadrophonics was 8 track tape. LP's were encoded/ decoded 2 channel sound. Thru a processor.
@parthabhatta1963
@parthabhatta1963 10 месяцев назад
Hugely complex setup and required lot of efforts for typical setting up those gadgets. We are lucky to have such a video - thanks to you.👍👍👍
@mikeselectricstuff
@mikeselectricstuff 6 лет назад
How much different would it look by simply running the record slow and locking the arm?
@tesla500
@tesla500 6 лет назад
There will probably be some subtle differences, especially to do with dust physics, and the scratches would be completely different.
@godfreypoon5148
@godfreypoon5148 6 лет назад
Could you set the high speed camera to a slow frame rate? :D
@tesla500
@tesla500 6 лет назад
Yes, it can be set down to 0.025 fps XD
@marcorizza274
@marcorizza274 6 лет назад
The classical music gave an AvE-like touch to it...
@ciano5475
@ciano5475 6 лет назад
Or Stefan Gotteswinter :)
@woodytheman2497
@woodytheman2497 10 месяцев назад
Awesome of you. An actual motion video instead of freezing frames. My hat off to you.
@twocvbloke
@twocvbloke 6 лет назад
Probably the best vinyl related video there is on youtube... :D
@Makebuildmodify
@Makebuildmodify 6 лет назад
Great explanation! Thanks!
@kenjifuse2234
@kenjifuse2234 2 года назад
Huma-Huma are ripping off Prokofiev's Romeo and Juliet! ;) Thanks for the cool stylus shots.
@KerryWongBlog
@KerryWongBlog 6 лет назад
Thanks for the slow-mo video! This is something you sure don't see very often...
@pandoraefretum
@pandoraefretum 3 года назад
not interesting ? .... fascinating !!! why was the stylus jumping track ?
@Oakleaf700
@Oakleaf700 4 года назад
Love the random ''Hello Trixie'' 🐾🐾😂 2:50 Trixie's hair @ 0:51
@nicktohzyu
@nicktohzyu 6 лет назад
the genius and effort behind this is amazing!
@autonomousindividual7780
@autonomousindividual7780 2 года назад
I guess Im an old fart that I think this is amazing. Being nostalgic in this day is a real curse. They can't destroy the past fast enough.
@voodoowraith
@voodoowraith 6 лет назад
Thank you for the effort. That was awesome. Since I was little back in the 70's I've wondered what that would look like.
@fricc33
@fricc33 9 месяцев назад
Cool stuff! Your records are really dusty though, and the stylus is collecting lots of rubbish all along. Maybe clean them first? Also you might want to adjust the weight and the anti skating, as the needle is jumping quite a bit on the grooves...
@CJWarlock
@CJWarlock 6 лет назад
Thanks. :) You've made a great deal of service for all the DJ's who knew already how it all works but had this need to see it zoomed and in slow motion. :) Cheers!
@gabewrsewell
@gabewrsewell 6 лет назад
love these videos on problem solving and cool camera setups
@kfl611
@kfl611 Год назад
What a great job you did ! I enjoyed this, thank you for posting this video.
@TheBackyardScientist
@TheBackyardScientist 6 лет назад
Great video David!
@jvle-
@jvle- 3 года назад
Ey found one of your comments and I’m the first one!
@kodinamsinh1267
@kodinamsinh1267 Год назад
Great comment Kevin!
@Burfurd64
@Burfurd64 6 лет назад
Have you tried burning magnesium (ribbon for example) as a source of illumination? Yes, it is short term, but often times short term is all it takes for high speed filming.
@allcopseatpasta6976
@allcopseatpasta6976 6 лет назад
Somewhat of a back to the roots of photography aproach? Sounds fun, keep an extinguisher at hand.
@AmeliaRosalinaTheHedgehog
@AmeliaRosalinaTheHedgehog 3 года назад
This is so amazing and cool to see it up close
@Ilanvain
@Ilanvain 6 лет назад
That's amazing!
@TuneStunnaMusic
@TuneStunnaMusic 5 лет назад
This is worlds better than the other video. I’m sharing this with the dj pages
@Bob1014ify
@Bob1014ify Месяц назад
from like 1:36 on, can anyone explain the stylus jumping lanes?
@wdavem
@wdavem 6 лет назад
Also it would be cool to compare a 12" 45 with one of those ultra slow voice- only recordings for the blind (to show the steeper and more shallow angles of groove movement. This really goes to show the wear and tear the record and stylus go through.
@compu85
@compu85 6 лет назад
To those saying run the record more slowly... wouldn’t that make the needle not move as much in the cartridge due to the tone arm having less inertia?
@ergohack
@ergohack 6 лет назад
compu85 I think so too. I don't think you'd see the same level of wear on the vinyl either.
@DreStyle
@DreStyle 6 лет назад
Holy crap! This was extremely interesting! Thanks for all your hard work! And that small light is just insane! Where can you get them? Thanks, I will subscribe! Keep up the good work!
@volvo09
@volvo09 6 лет назад
Unbelievably cool! The b&w Chronos is great for that shot.
@mrlithium69
@mrlithium69 6 лет назад
You can see how much material its wearing away everytime you skip the needle. And even just following a concentric groove, its dragging and taking some vinyl with it occasionally. Easy to see how a record wears out.
@RODALCO2007
@RODALCO2007 6 лет назад
It may be the heat from the lamp softening the vinyl, and causing excess wear.
@MiklosKoncsek
@MiklosKoncsek 6 лет назад
what an absolutely excellent video...hats off to you sir!
@teresashinkansen9402
@teresashinkansen9402 4 года назад
The superior format. Such perfection and reproducibility plus infinite bandwidth coz analog.
@davidmoore2892
@davidmoore2892 6 лет назад
Great job! For your lighting issue you would benefit from using an inline illumination setup. As you mentioned the NA of microscope objectives is small, so that cone angle of the reflected light that makes it through the rear pupil of the objective lens is small also. If you could I'd recommend you use an infinity corrected objective lens instead (a long working distance version), and use a beamsplitter & tube lens arrangement. Even with your existing finite tube length objective, at 4x magnification you might get away with mounting some LEDs around the edge of the objective lens for improved illumination.
@peterstaaf8851
@peterstaaf8851 Год назад
Real late comment:Just agree with all other: Great work and vid! I liked the very last part in which you see how much the actual record is wobbling and how hard the needle suspension must work in sub-sonic region. This might be an explanation to why skating can in worst case get grip on needle/cartride and skip it (inwards). And long before that we have audible distortions.
@Frostlander
@Frostlander 6 лет назад
Also please link the music track you used at the start of the video... It is lovely.
@Martinsp16
@Martinsp16 6 лет назад
This is incredible, thank you!
@TheJdmartinjax
@TheJdmartinjax 4 года назад
Do a cg version of the needle in a 10 ft tall groove, to show the textures that produce bass vs treble etc
@middleway1885
@middleway1885 Год назад
Boop! Great stuff! Will you try to create your own Dr. Royal Rife microscope?
@tomhill4003
@tomhill4003 7 месяцев назад
very cool to see this so close up
@erenahoushyar4117
@erenahoushyar4117 2 года назад
this is really interesting !
@manishkumar24sep
@manishkumar24sep Год назад
Please tell me this music ( song ) name i want to listen in Spotify Please sir
@chrismack2677
@chrismack2677 Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2z5rMNH_yTI.html
@joeynovak07
@joeynovak07 6 лет назад
That is very very cool, thanks for taking all the time to set this up. I thought the record player grooves were vertical, not horizontal. Now I know...
@ahaveland
@ahaveland 6 лет назад
You're not completely wrong - the needle moves up, down, left and right in a 45 degree "V" so it can play stereo by using the two axes. A needle that can only move left or right can only do mono (unless digitally encoded with stereo data!)
@jhonwask
@jhonwask Год назад
it is intriguing to see how difficult it is to photograph things at the microscopic level. I had never known that so much light was needed. Nice video. I also love the music played. What is it called and who wrote it?
@wdavem
@wdavem 6 лет назад
Can you do this with a record covered with water? Maybe also compare the outer and inner groves. Easily the best close up shot I've seen.
@ilive4god2007
@ilive4god2007 4 года назад
Man, it's just awesome! Thanks for the video!
@user-fw1mm3gf5v
@user-fw1mm3gf5v 3 года назад
This is amazing! Thank you! Plus, i love that song.
@ergohack
@ergohack 6 лет назад
That is some very nice footage. Would it be beneficial to use an infrared filter with that lamp? It should help a bit with the heating; xenon has some big spikes in the 800-1000nm range.
@snapo1750
@snapo1750 2 года назад
i am still wondering what camera is that... looks pretty cool
@tarstarkusz
@tarstarkusz Год назад
1:09 What are those white chips that get thrown off the stylus or the record? Are they little flakes of vinyl being cut off the record as the needle skips?
@JohnnySmith.
@JohnnySmith. 2 месяца назад
Mind blown goodstyle!😵‍💫
@rishabhverma8951
@rishabhverma8951 3 года назад
Can someone tell me what music piece was that……
@Alexander_Sannikov
@Alexander_Sannikov 6 лет назад
what are those crystals on phonoraph head? looks like frost.
@ergohack
@ergohack 6 лет назад
I'm guessing it's some sort of corrosion.
@theman36
@theman36 Год назад
ABSOLUTELY PHENOMENAL
@MountainManMike
@MountainManMike 6 лет назад
Listening to this with headphones scared the crap out of me! I thought MY 3d printer had somehow turned on and was rouge printing lol. Cool video other wise.
@ThemisTheotokatos
@ThemisTheotokatos 6 лет назад
are those the actual sound waves imprinted on the record? :o
@tesla500
@tesla500 6 лет назад
Yes
@jcims
@jcims 6 лет назад
Seeing it at this scale, it's amazing how well the whole contraption works to drive human reproduction. Any more subjects planned for this rig?
@MaxKoschuh
@MaxKoschuh 6 лет назад
oh yeah, this was VERY interesting THANK YOU
@bigmrfnB
@bigmrfnB 6 лет назад
Look at this Phonograph. Everytime I do it makes me laugh... Good vid
@laxr5rs
@laxr5rs 5 лет назад
Thanks very much for doing this. It's excellent.
@bakedbean37
@bakedbean37 9 месяцев назад
Great demonstration of why we have nasal hairs.
@veiwingchannel1441
@veiwingchannel1441 6 лет назад
Plz for your next cam includ a fine tuning stand and lens for a microscope objective. I desperately need this for some of my electrical, crystal, and magnetic slides.
@BitOBear
@BitOBear 2 года назад
I looked it up, cuz I couldn't remember which way is the needle move. Imagine a little x on the front of the needle standing up right. The right channel is the left wall and it signal causes the needle to move diagonally up into the right, and then the right side of the groove causes the needle to move diagonally up into the left . I believe the two movements are at 90° angles to each other . But the two movements combine on those 45's to create the stereo signal . I had thought it was plus shaped when I made my previous comment, but that was 45° out of phase with the truth so this is a correction for that.
@IljaSara
@IljaSara 6 лет назад
I have to be honest: As a hobbyist photographer the actual footage you got was much less interesting than you explaining the building of the actual setup to film the action. :P
@Rheinmetall1
@Rheinmetall1 4 года назад
😂 the cat can destroy everything in one second.
@jimmiesmith5811
@jimmiesmith5811 4 года назад
That's DJ scratch
@RODALCO2007
@RODALCO2007 6 лет назад
Excellent demo.
@grtyvr
@grtyvr 6 лет назад
That was awesome! Thanks for sharing.
@NielsCG
@NielsCG 6 лет назад
watching that stylus skipping grooves hurt me
@viniciusnoyoutube
@viniciusnoyoutube 6 лет назад
Fantastic!
@brentfisher902
@brentfisher902 4 года назад
4:15 is the sound of the start of many prerecorded music albums on compact cassette tapes...
@wdavem
@wdavem 6 лет назад
Any chance you can do another video in real time shot @ 60 hz?
@itsnotjeff8391
@itsnotjeff8391 4 года назад
This is amazing and beautiful-ty
@raymundhofmann7661
@raymundhofmann7661 6 лет назад
You could have tried coupling the light in with a beam splitter in the the tube to the camera. So you may focus it more effective where it is required, possibly reducing the required power, solving the heating and some stray reflection issues.
@raymundhofmann7661
@raymundhofmann7661 6 лет назад
Ah, someone already suggested that...
@ipadize
@ipadize 6 лет назад
can you do a highspeed video of an electric lighter with dual arc?
@connorprice785
@connorprice785 5 лет назад
That angry grandpa theme
@jeffg1524
@jeffg1524 4 года назад
Wonderful job. Well done.👏👍
@Ididntaskforahandleyoutube
@Ididntaskforahandleyoutube 4 года назад
I would bet you a king's ransom that this man married an original Mac. Only 4chan attended.
@franciscannata1778
@franciscannata1778 5 лет назад
What is the name of the song that is playing?
@chrismack2677
@chrismack2677 Год назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2z5rMNH_yTI.html
@Rlindagem
@Rlindagem 6 лет назад
Great work and would like to see more.
@locouk
@locouk 6 лет назад
Why do lasers scintillate?
@manpreet9766
@manpreet9766 6 лет назад
Green Silver I think it is because lasers have very narrow bandwidth which simply means they contain a single wavelength. As the surface is usually not perfectly smooth on microscopic level, therefore the reflected laser beam is not reflected in a uniform way. This causes some patches to interfere constructively and some destructively, causing dark and bright speckles to appear. This happens with ordinary light beams as well but because they contain large number of closely spaced wavelengths. This results in speckles for each wavelength to form at different places. The result is an averaging effect which washes out the speckles
@AstraWerke
@AstraWerke 6 лет назад
Looks better than that 3 second footage via electron microscope that went viral...
@ronny332
@ronny332 11 месяцев назад
Crazy too see how much the needle is moving. I always thought the motion of the stylus would be much smaller. Don't get me wrong, but the microscope effect isn't that huge as the diamond is still pretty small on the picture. but compared to its size, the influence of the groove it huge. What's also good to spot: these crappy plastic grooves should sound better than a lossless digital recording 🙂? I'm really a vinyl lover, but know about its limitations. Keep in mind, some people pay thousands of dollars for a silver cable, to think it makes the vinyl sound even better. Well, yes, no, definitely no 🙂.
@mistakenotou7681
@mistakenotou7681 5 лет назад
Whats that led light ? Try somethink like emissar d4
@ahaveland
@ahaveland 6 лет назад
Sure was a lot of effort but a great result! However, if you physically ran the record at 1/100th speed, then you could have managed with 1/100th of the light and/or run the camera slower. (The needle follows the grooves just the same at 0.33 rpm!)
@moritzkockritz5710
@moritzkockritz5710 6 лет назад
Andy Lee Robinson not all of the physics involved with this is linear, I'd imagine, therefore the needle would behave differently on slow speeds
@ahaveland
@ahaveland 6 лет назад
No, the groove *dictates* the motion of the needle so that is linear. The signal generated in the pickup coil relies on relative movement of the needle and the arm and may not be linear at all speeds. The arm has much greater inertia and integrates (follows) the average position of the needle. If the speed was very very slow, the whole arm would move with the needle and either no signal or a distorted one would be generated as the arm becomes coupled. At very high speed the needle may jump out of the groove on high frequency or high amplitude sounds as the rate of change of path exceeds the needle's ability to remain in the groove - just like taking a corner too fast.
@kageotaku
@kageotaku 6 лет назад
Where it would fail is surface damage, though.
@therealfranklin
@therealfranklin 6 лет назад
I expect a denser accent with that music at 0:15
@risfutile
@risfutile 6 лет назад
Renewable Oilcan Rim Is that a Stefan Gotteswinter reference?
@mason6300
@mason6300 5 лет назад
I always thought the needle went up and down to detect the signal, it appears it moves side to side instead.
@bernardo00124719
@bernardo00124719 6 лет назад
that was awesome dude. thanks.
@Linktw0
@Linktw0 5 лет назад
Bro, this was awesome. just an Idea for your lamp btw, . you need to get a cheap aliexpr "Universal tablet ipad holder". Its basically a desk-clamp with a bendable arm and on its end you have a swivel joint (remove ipad fixture) (insert diy lamp fixture).. Boom! micro spotlight on a bendable arm with clamp! nailed it
@Poizon_Dr1p
@Poizon_Dr1p 3 года назад
Lol cat is tryna die standing almost on the power supply
@markielinhart
@markielinhart 3 месяца назад
Wow! Don’t know if anyone else has asked this, but is it a myth that shouldn’t play an LP more than once a day due to heat distortion? Asking for a friend🤔
@josephbennett3482
@josephbennett3482 Месяц назад
Yes it's true, you shouldn't repeatedly play a record surface more than once a day because the vinyl surface needs to rest because it heats up due to the friction and the repeated playing will wear out the grooves.
@mikerotchburns7287
@mikerotchburns7287 5 лет назад
HOW DIRTY CAN YOUR STYLUS BE?
@charlesbaum2674
@charlesbaum2674 4 года назад
what piece is playing at around 1:25 or so?
@Kevitivity
@Kevitivity 3 года назад
Fantastic.
@HANDYMATOR
@HANDYMATOR 2 года назад
AMAZING.............
@electronicbob6237
@electronicbob6237 6 лет назад
really cool...interesting...respect well done..
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